Re: [FRIAM] Stating the obvious
Don Begley wrote: Not exactly complexity, but Joe Nocera's take http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/02/technology/02nocera.html?themc=th on MS/Yahoo is well said. But web-based applications are limited by what web browsers can do, and how fast they can do it. As those things improve (e.g. JITed JavaScript), Microsoft has their whole technology platform to draw upon: http://labs.live.com/volta Meanwhile, they have most of the desktops in the world, and stock that performs well... Marcus FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
Re: [FRIAM] Stating the obvious
Birchard Hayes wrote: The offending line is using System; which creates several problems. The first is that this code will only run on Windows and only in Internet Explorer. That's the innovation. CLR bytecodes are interpreted on a JavaScript interpreter. For example, the demos they have on the Volta site work (http://labs.live.com/volta/samples.aspx) just fine in Firefox, if slowly. Indeed `System' is native to Windows, and that fact could be detected such that CLI bytecodes could be directed to the native engine on a Windows or Mono-based system for fast execution. Further, Firefox will also soon have a high performance JIT for JavaScript. Instead of using Microsoft's Volta, I would suggest using tools from Google Code, http://code.google.com , Google does have GWT, but the difference is that they have a very simple toolkit, not all of Java EE, which would be the analogue to Volta/.NET. Also Google lacks the very substantial IP in compiler technology that Microsoft has. or Yahoo's developer kits, http://developer.yahoo.com You mean Microsoft's. ;-) FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
Re: [FRIAM] Inside the gPhone: What to expect from Google's Android alliance
http://techland.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/02/01/271/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Owen Densmore Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 10:24 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: [FRIAM] Inside the gPhone: What to expect from Google's Android alliance Fairly interesting discussion of the gPhone, and why many of us who can't use the iPhone because of ATT find it compelling: http://tinyurl.com/2b6gog Basically I'd prefer an open, heterogeneous invironment, and Google is not quite so evil as MS and Apple. Soon, but not yet. -- Owen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
[FRIAM] SIGGRAPH and visualizing complexity
SIGGRAPH has a call for complexity and visual analtyics this year: http://www.siggraph.org/s2008/submissions/juried/complexity/ Do you have a full demographic interface or a particularly smart way of dealing with massive amounts of data? For SIGGRAPH 2008, we seek work that addresses three complementary issues: complexity of data, accessibility of information, and interaction. Topics might include: * Handling large datasets, from one source or millions of physical or virtual interfaces * Visualizing complexity, visual analytics * Visualization-based decision and control * Anytime or anywhere: from mobile devices to multiple displays Our goal for this theme is to highlight the increasingly important question of how to manage the increasingly large quantities of data in our electronic world. We welcome proposals for any presentations on this theme, but particularly appropriate are presentations from researchers, artists, or practitioners who are engaged in technical or social advancements in this area. --- -. . ..-. .. ... - .-- --- ..-. .. ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.Redfish.com 624 Agua Fria Street, Santa Fe, NM 87501 mobile: (505)577-5828 office: Santa Fe, NM (505)995-0206 / London, UK +44 (0) 20 7993 4769 FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
Re: [FRIAM] Stating the obvious
On Feb 3, 2008, at 11:16 AM, Marcus G. Daniels wrote:
Indeed `System' is native to Windows, and that fact could be detected
such that CLI bytecodes could be directed to the native engine on a
Windows or Mono-based system for fast execution. Further, Firefox
will
also soon have a high performance JIT for JavaScript.
I still don't trust the MS security model, but could just suffering
from a knee jerk anti-MS reaction. The inclusion of the System
library really ought to be completely superfluous on the client, and
may in fact be unnecessary. However, MS has found that many
developers liberally cut and paste from example code and including
that library smacks of the old this web site is designed for, and
will only work on IE even if other browsers are supported. Java
code also often includes a System library and it has always caused me
pain when my students include entire libraries that they haven't used
and thus create bloated, potentially unsecured byte code.
The biggest performance hit for JavaScript is dynamic typing, high
performance JIT or not. Once understood, the pitfalls of dynamic
typing can be avoided. I feel myself verging on a rant about the
state of Comp Sci education, so I won't digress.
Instead of using Microsoft's Volta, I would suggest using tools from
Google Code, http://code.google.com ,
Google does have GWT, but the difference is that they have a very
simple
toolkit, not all of Java EE, which would be the analogue to
Volta/.NET.
Also Google lacks the very substantial IP in compiler technology that
Microsoft has.
True, although I still prefer Intel's compiler to that of Visual
Studio. I have to concede that Google code may not have been the best
example of the alternatives. Their business model has, after all,
become more advertising focused.
or Yahoo's developer kits, http://developer.yahoo.com
You mean Microsoft's. ;-)
Ha ha ha, I totally forgot about that acquisition - Point taken!
Humanity is acquiring all the right technology for all the wrong
reasons.
~R. Buckminster Fuller
Use of advanced messaging technology does not imply
* an endorsement of western industrial civilization *
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Re: [FRIAM] huge amount of material on Second Life
In this month's Physics World: Doing physics in Second Life http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/print/32673 Robert P.S. Nick - apparently NOAA have got an SL presence... you could have your avatar wander through its favourite storm system. On Feb 1, 2008 8:58 PM, James Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FWIW, my employer, Thopmson Scientific, has joined the many companies choosing to have a presence in Second Life(SL). I have finagled myself a spot on the dev team for the island (the rest of.the team is one guy who has been working on it for a year) I been curious about doing ABM or AA stuff in SL for a while, so this seemed like a good opp to get in it, at no cost, and with enough pressure that I'd actually do it. So, come on over to thomson island (it's still a work in progress) I'm turtle schism or sometimes turtle voom ~~James On 2/1/08, Marcus G. Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Here's a high level and technical overview of Second Life. (A long but fascinating video.) http://download.microsoft.com/download/9/4/1/94138e2a-d9dc-435a-9240-bcd985bf5bd7/Jim-Cory-SecondLife.wmv Also note the new simulator: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Mono FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
[FRIAM] JASSS on validation
The latest issue of JASSS has an interesting article on the practice (rather than theory) of ABM validation: http://jasss.soc.surrey.ac.uk/11/1/5.html Robert FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
