Re: [FRIAM] on the obustness of globalism

[Owen Densmore]

We just got a lot dumber.

(Terence Tao? Wow! Didn't know many of us followed him. Fascinating guy.)​

Sadly, the ban has now killed someone:
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http://www.fox2detroit.com/news/local-news/232856168-story

On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 2:50 PM, glen ☣  wrote:

>
> Open thread for mathematicians on the immigration executive order
> Terance Tao
>
> > Even if the order was withdrawn immediately, there is no longer an
> assurance, even for nationals not initially impacted by that order, that
> some similar abrupt and major change in the rules for entry to the United
> States could not occur, for instance for a visitor who has already gone
> through the lengthy visa application process and background checks, secured
> the appropriate visa, and is already in flight to the country.  This is
> already affecting upcoming or ongoing mathematical conferences or programs
> in the US, with many international speakers (including those from countries
> not directly affected by the order) now cancelling their visit, either in
> protest or in concern about their ability to freely enter and leave the
> country.
>
>
> --
> ☣ glen
>
> 
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Re: [FRIAM] ACLU joins Y combinator

[Russ Abbott]

Good for Y Combinator!

On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 10:25 AM glen ☣  wrote:

>
> https://blog.ycombinator.com/welcome-aclu/
>
> > We are delighted to be funding the ACLU as a non-profit in our Winter
> 2017 batch.
> >
> > The ACLU has always been important, but has a particularly important
> role right now. We are honored to be able to help, and we will send some of
> our team to New York for the rest of the batch to assist.
> >
> > The ACLU will have full access to the Y Combinator network and
> community, and they will present at Demo Day in March.
> >
> > We are hopeful that the YC community will join us in supporting this
> important work. In particular, if you’re an engineer and want to spend some
> time helping them out, let us know. We’ll keep you updated on opportunities.
> >
> > Also, please consider donating to the ACLU.
>
>
> --
> ☣ glen
>
> 
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Re: [FRIAM] free will on the ten meter tower

[Vladimyr Burachynsky]

Thank you Roger Critchlow,

 

The video shows people overcoming fear in a social setting. Which is in some 
way confirming the benefits of a society,

But it also hints at the extremes some people are willing to go to escape fear.

Perhaps those with the most fear are the most worrisome.

vib

 

I was a lifeguard and have seen this naked  human fear at much lower heights. 
That was why I was employed I guess.

But I called  it quits at jumping out of airplanes. Rock faces were okay up to 
a certain height then to get higher I resorted to ropes.

Perhaps one of civilization’s purposes is teaching us to overcome our fears not 
to succumb to them.

 

From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Roger Critchlow
Sent: February-01-17 6:00 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Subject: [FRIAM] free will on the ten meter tower

 

This documentary 

 

  https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/30/opinion/ten-meter-tower.html

 

is great viewing.

 

-- rec --

 


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[FRIAM] free will on the ten meter tower

[Roger Critchlow]

This documentary

  https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/30/opinion/ten-meter-tower.html

is great viewing.

-- rec --

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[FRIAM] on the obustness of globalism

[glen ☣]

Open thread for mathematicians on the immigration executive order
Terance Tao

> Even if the order was withdrawn immediately, there is no longer an assurance, 
> even for nationals not initially impacted by that order, that some similar 
> abrupt and major change in the rules for entry to the United States could not 
> occur, for instance for a visitor who has already gone through the lengthy 
> visa application process and background checks, secured the appropriate visa, 
> and is already in flight to the country.  This is already affecting upcoming 
> or ongoing mathematical conferences or programs in the US, with many 
> international speakers (including those from countries not directly affected 
> by the order) now cancelling their visit, either in protest or in concern 
> about their ability to freely enter and leave the country. 


-- 
☣ glen


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[FRIAM] ACLU joins Y combinator

[glen ☣]

https://blog.ycombinator.com/welcome-aclu/

> We are delighted to be funding the ACLU as a non-profit in our Winter 2017 
> batch.
> 
> The ACLU has always been important, but has a particularly important role 
> right now. We are honored to be able to help, and we will send some of our 
> team to New York for the rest of the batch to assist.
> 
> The ACLU will have full access to the Y Combinator network and community, and 
> they will present at Demo Day in March.
> 
> We are hopeful that the YC community will join us in supporting this 
> important work. In particular, if you’re an engineer and want to spend some 
> time helping them out, let us know. We’ll keep you updated on opportunities.
> 
> Also, please consider donating to the ACLU.


-- 
☣ glen


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Re: [FRIAM] Globalism in the age of populism? .. & Open Source Software

[Pamela McCorduck]

No, you didn’t use the word pain. It was my inference, and I’m sorry you felt 
it was intrusive. Pain in this situation isn’t pathology needing some kind of 
medical attention. It’s a reasonable response to the events of the first few 
days of this president’s administration. Speaking for myself, my sleep is 
deeply and nightly disturbed by these events.

We have comedians here who mock Donald Trump with precision. They are mostly on 
television. They have not yet been arrested. They reach through their medium 
more people than the 19th century authors you cite, though their lasting power 
remains to be seen.


> On Feb 1, 2017, at 1:31 AM, Vladimyr Burachynsky  wrote:
> 
> Pamela.
> Thank-you, 
> 
> but I rarely ever use the word pain and did not use it in my post.
> Some of us can endure more than others. The fear of pain seems to have also 
> become more prevalent
> in the recent past. Now the fear of inconvenience or waiting in a line.
> Our fears have been trivialized or commoditized. Now stained teeth, white 
> hair, or body odor. My how we have been held for ransom by wimpy ghosts.
> Where are the Three Stooges when we need them. We used to laugh at their 
> comedy now we quiver and faint in a  politically correct swoon demanding 
> military intervention.
> 
> So I do not expect sympathy or empathy or a meeting with a social councillor. 
> Nor an appointment with a young med. grad. unless I Have a video camera to 
> present to the world abominable stupidity.
> 
> I do not wish to be isolated from this congregation of struggling 
> reasonableness, simply because you intuit that I might have pain.  Is there 
> anyone living free of it.. No then lets resume being civil and keep the 
> unpleasant truth under wraps.
> 
> Let's talk about mockery and a return to satire to dispel the demons of 
> ignorance.
> Did Swift or Dickens or Conrad or Tolstoy  strike harder at injustice.  Whose 
> pen was the mightiest.
> vib
> 
> So today I learned that the KKK were handing out flyers in Canada.
> I don't believe they can take the cold, so it is probably nonsense. Maybe 
> they dress-up as Jehova Witnesses just to cross the border.
> How do you tell the difference?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Pamela McCorduck
> Sent: January-31-17 11:35 PM
> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Globalism in the age of populism? .. & Open Source 
> Software
> 
> You sound much more reasonable than Jacques Lacan ever did, Vladimir. But 
> then I’m told you had to be there.
> 
> I am sorry for your pain. It shows in your post. It’s righteous pain, 
> altogether justified pain, for we have all been deeply wounded in that place 
> where justice and righteousness abide.
> 
> 
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Re: [FRIAM] Globalism in the age of populism? .. & Open Source Software

[Marcus Daniels]

Vladimyr writes:

"So today I learned that the KKK were handing out flyers in Canada.
I don't believe they can take the cold, so it is probably nonsense. "

I've heard this reasoning before!

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump-minnesota-too-cold-for-syrian-refugees/article/2576501


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Re: [FRIAM] Globalism in the age of populism? .. & Open Source Software

[Vladimyr Burachynsky]

Pamela.
Thank-you, 

but I rarely ever use the word pain and did not use it in my post.
Some of us can endure more than others. The fear of pain seems to have also 
become more prevalent
in the recent past. Now the fear of inconvenience or waiting in a line.
Our fears have been trivialized or commoditized. Now stained teeth, white hair, 
or body odor. My how we have been held for ransom by wimpy ghosts.
Where are the Three Stooges when we need them. We used to laugh at their comedy 
now we quiver and faint in a  politically correct swoon demanding military 
intervention.

So I do not expect sympathy or empathy or a meeting with a social councillor. 
Nor an appointment with a young med. grad. unless I Have a video camera to 
present to the world abominable stupidity.

I do not wish to be isolated from this congregation of struggling 
reasonableness, simply because you intuit that I might have pain.  Is there 
anyone living free of it.. No then lets resume being civil and keep the 
unpleasant truth under wraps.

Let's talk about mockery and a return to satire to dispel the demons of 
ignorance.
Did Swift or Dickens or Conrad or Tolstoy  strike harder at injustice.  Whose 
pen was the mightiest.
vib

So today I learned that the KKK were handing out flyers in Canada.
I don't believe they can take the cold, so it is probably nonsense. Maybe they 
dress-up as Jehova Witnesses just to cross the border.
How do you tell the difference?


-Original Message-
From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Pamela McCorduck
Sent: January-31-17 11:35 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Globalism in the age of populism? .. & Open Source Software

You sound much more reasonable than Jacques Lacan ever did, Vladimir. But then 
I’m told you had to be there.

I am sorry for your pain. It shows in your post. It’s righteous pain, 
altogether justified pain, for we have all been deeply wounded in that place 
where justice and righteousness abide.



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