Re: [FRIAM] FW: Bookstore Sale

[Pamela McCorduck]

Further to the local congregation: Since the Santa Fe Institute has run out of 
shelf space, they couldn’t accept Joe’s scientific library. I gave it to St. 
John’s for their sale instead. Many books on quantum physics, quantum 
chemistry, and other arcane topics. Get there early!

Pamela




> On May 8, 2017, at 8:33 PM, Nick Thompson  wrote:
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> To the Local Congregation:  Loading up on discounted books on Friday might be 
> a [very subtle] way of expressing our gratitude for our being allowed to glut 
> up the St. Johns coffee shop every Friday morning
>  
> To the Diaspora:  The St. Johns Book shop is a lovely, teensy book store with 
> a long table of fascinating books, constantly renewed by staff, that some of 
> us (e.g., Dave West) cannot keep our hands off.  Well worth a visit. Is this 
> a time when folks from neighboring communities (I am thinking you, Steve 
> Smith) should join our Friday Service.  Think of it as Easter for Nerds. 
>  
> Nick 
>  
> Nicholas S. Thompson
> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
> Clark University
> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ 
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>  
> From: Thompson, Caleb [mailto:cth...@sjc.edu ] 
> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 4:19 PM
> To: Penny Thompson  >; Thompson Nick 
> mailto:nickthomp...@earthlink.net>>
> Subject: Fw: Bookstore Sale
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> From: Santa Fe Student Life
> Sent: Monday, May 8, 2017 3:36 PM
> Subject: FW: Bookstore Sale
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> It’s time for our inventory reduction, pre-commencement, thank you for being 
> such a great community, sale!
>  
> Through commencement Saturday we’ll take 20% off non program books, Loebs and 
> used books, as well as logo items, clothing and many other items in the 
> bookstore.
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> We’ll also take 10% off program books so now is a good time to get your books 
> for the summer or next fall.
>  
> Well done Graduates!!
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> Have a wonderful summer!
>  
> Your Bookstore staff
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> Andrea D’Amato (EC’11)
> Bookstore Director
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> 1160 Camino Cruz Blanca 
> Santa Fe | New Mexico | 87505
> 505-984-6014
> Fax 984-6026
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Re: [FRIAM] the arc of ai (was Re: Whew!)

[Frank Wimberly]

Of course I have no idea what's happened since 1984.  It's probably
proprietary.

Frank Wimberly
Phone (505) 670-9918

On May 8, 2017 10:47 PM, "Marcus Daniels"  wrote:

Until that robot can acquire the hockey stick and exercise its mirror
neuron, the work must continue!



*From:* Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Frank
Wimberly
*Sent:* Monday, May 08, 2017 10:32 PM

*To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group 
*Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] the arc of ai (was Re: Whew!)



I am risking citing authorities again.  Marc Raibert left Carnegie Mellon,
founded the Leg Lab at MIT, then founded Boston Dynamics.



  Raibert, Marc H. and Francis C. Wimberly.

  Tabular Control of Balance in a Dynamic Legged System.

  IEEE Transactions on Systems, Man and Cybernetics 14, 1984.

Believe me, it's not possible that anything like that goes on in human
nervous systems.



Frank



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On May 8, 2017 10:23 PM, "Eric Smith"  wrote:

I guess a measure of how life-like it is, is how much you are waiting for
the robot to haul off and smack the guy with the hockey stick.  Some kind
of mirror neuron thing, maybe.

> On May 9, 2017, at 12:06 PM, Marcus Daniels  wrote:
>
> Glen writes:
>
> "At some point, wouldn't we enter David Deutsch (or Neal Stephenson)
territory?  ... where the idea is that the computation in our nervous
system is mappable to the computation going on around us"
>
> While Boston Dynamics has remarkable capabilities, or a Tesla driving
itself, it still doesn’t compare to my dog chasing down a rabbit.   Once
they are matched, then it seems like that mapping has been modeled
adequately.
>
> Marcus
>
>
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Re: [FRIAM] the arc of ai (was Re: Whew!)

[Steven A Smith]

I KNOW!

That was such a compelling feeling...

The robot's *apparent* long-suffering patience added to its 
anthropomorphic features in making me want to imagine it to have more 
"humanity" than it possibly could.


Taking the hockey stick away from his tormentor or giving him a good 
smackdown would seem to be an important part of "problem solving" in 
this case.


One might suggest "intelligence is in the eyes of the beholder"?

It *does* feel as if OUR estimate of intelligence might involve how our 
mirror neurons are activated.




On 5/8/17 10:23 PM, Eric Smith wrote:

I guess a measure of how life-like it is, is how much you are waiting for the 
robot to haul off and smack the guy with the hockey stick.  Some kind of mirror 
neuron thing, maybe.


On May 9, 2017, at 12:06 PM, Marcus Daniels  wrote:

Glen writes:
  
"At some point, wouldn't we enter David Deutsch (or Neal Stephenson) territory?  ... where the idea is that the computation in our nervous system is mappable to the computation going on around us"
  
While Boston Dynamics has remarkable capabilities, or a Tesla driving itself, it still doesn’t compare to my dog chasing down a rabbit.   Once they are matched, then it seems like that mapping has been modeled adequately.
  
Marcus
  
  


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