Re: [FRIAM] the role of metaphor in scientific thought

2017-07-26 Thread Dean Gerber 
Nick--
Are you OK?  Many of us are concerned about each other over the effects of age, 
and we are concerned about you.  What does "laid up" mean?  Feel free to keep 
that private if you wish.  But, we are concerned.
Best wishes,
Dean
On Wednesday, July 26, 2017, 11:17:04 PM CDT, Nick Thompson 
 wrote:

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I loved it. metaphors or no.  

  

I am laid up, right now, and so won’t have much to say for a bit.

  

Keep up the good work, you  guys. 

  

Nick

  

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

  

From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 11:17 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group 
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] the role of metaphor in scientific thought

  

Thanks, Steve.  The metaphor allusion was a not very humorous way to make the 
pointer to my little book allegedly relevant.  As Nick pointed out, the title 
itself is a metaphor. The dictionary definition of "legacy" mentions money or 
other posessions which are left in a bequest.  There are some phrases in the 
text which are unambiguously metaphors.

  

I would be very interested in feedback about the book.  Not because I expect to 
improve it but just because...   Nick says that his father, a publisher, always 
said, "You should only become a writer if you can't do anything else".

I think he was talking about earning prospects.

  

It's interesting that the Android mail editor won't let me punctuate the quote 
correctly.

  

Frank Wimberly
Phone (505) 670-9918

  

On Jul 24, 2017 8:36 PM, "Steve"  wrote:


I just ordered my copy yesterday.

It IS conceivable that you avoided all use of literary metaphor.

In this very sentence I used at least 2 conceptual metaphors.

Nick might only acknowledge literary metaphors?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 23, 2017, at 9:42 PM, "Frank Wimberly"  wrote:
>
> There have been no entries in the competition to find a metaphor in this book:
>
> https://www.amazon.com/New-Mexico-Legacy-Frank-Wimberly/dp/1548003360
>
> By the way, the title doesn't count.
>
> Frank
>
>
> Frank C. Wimberly
> 140 Calle Ojo Feliz
> Santa Fe, NM 87505
>
> wimber...@gmail.com     wimbe...@cal.berkeley.edu
> Phone:  (505) 995-8715      Cell:  (505) 670-9918
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Vladimyr
> Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 4:02 PM
> To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group'
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] the role of metaphor in scientific thought
>
> Glen,
>
> I already use AutoHotKey  Script to run Code in Maple Math and Dump .txt 
> vertex data embedded in Processing 3 code (some Java offshoot) The autoHotKey 
> assembles the hundreds of images and 3D objects into ordered sets and then 
> runs MovieMaker to produce video .wmv, which you have seen already.
>
> It was my intention to convert the functional routines from Maple  directly 
> into Processing and share that code widely.
> But few people other than web artists use Processing and it does not seem 
> able to run on a web site. I guess this is a general problem or short coming.
>
> Processing graphics are fast and surprisingly good, better than I am used to 
> elsewhere.
> I will try and write the Processing version of the Maple guts and get it out 
> but it may take sometime and others will have to install the Processing 
> engine which is free but sort of clunky to set up.
>
> There are a number of issues that all this cross talk introduces such as 
> while Processing does crank out 3D object files readily accepted by 3D 
> printers.
> But it handles colors strangely and seems unable to mix these objects with 
> solid primitives during object creation. A task probably better suited to CAD 
> packages.
>
> If this is done you will probably by amazed at all the useless junk that 
> pours out at the far end. Like my undergrads trying to build a toboggan out 
> of concrete.
>
> One issue I see is that the more removed the operator the less incentive he 
> will

Re: [FRIAM] the role of metaphor in scientific thought

2017-07-26 Thread Nick Thompson 
I loved it. metaphors or no.  

 

I am laid up, right now, and so won’t have much to say for a bit.

 

Keep up the good work, you  guys. 

 

Nick

 

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

  
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

 

From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 11:17 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group 
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] the role of metaphor in scientific thought

 

Thanks, Steve.  The metaphor allusion was a not very humorous way to make the 
pointer to my little book allegedly relevant.  As Nick pointed out, the title 
itself is a metaphor. The dictionary definition of "legacy" mentions money or 
other posessions which are left in a bequest.  There are some phrases in the 
text which are unambiguously metaphors.

 

I would be very interested in feedback about the book.  Not because I expect to 
improve it but just because...   Nick says that his father, a publisher, always 
said, "You should only become a writer if you can't do anything else".

I think he was talking about earning prospects.

 

It's interesting that the Android mail editor won't let me punctuate the quote 
correctly.

 

Frank Wimberly
Phone (505) 670-9918

 

On Jul 24, 2017 8:36 PM, "Steve" mailto:sasm...@swcp.com> > 
wrote:

I just ordered my copy yesterday.

It IS conceivable that you avoided all use of literary metaphor.

In this very sentence I used at least 2 conceptual metaphors.

Nick might only acknowledge literary metaphors?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 23, 2017, at 9:42 PM, "Frank Wimberly"   > wrote:
>
> There have been no entries in the competition to find a metaphor in this book:
>
> https://www.amazon.com/New-Mexico-Legacy-Frank-Wimberly/dp/1548003360
>
> By the way, the title doesn't count.
>
> Frank
>
>
> Frank C. Wimberly
> 140 Calle Ojo Feliz
> Santa Fe, NM 87505
>
> wimber...@gmail.com   
> wimbe...@cal.berkeley.edu  
> Phone:  (505) 995-8715Cell:  (505) 670-9918 
>  
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com 
>  ] On Behalf Of Vladimyr
> Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 4:02 PM
> To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group'
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] the role of metaphor in scientific thought
>
> Glen,
>
> I already use AutoHotKey  Script to run Code in Maple Math and Dump .txt 
> vertex data embedded in Processing 3 code (some Java offshoot) The autoHotKey 
> assembles the hundreds of images and 3D objects into ordered sets and then 
> runs MovieMaker to produce video .wmv, which you have seen already.
>
> It was my intention to convert the functional routines from Maple  directly 
> into Processing and share that code widely.
> But few people other than web artists use Processing and it does not seem 
> able to run on a web site. I guess this is a general problem or short coming.
>
> Processing graphics are fast and surprisingly good, better than I am used to 
> elsewhere.
> I will try and write the Processing version of the Maple guts and get it out 
> but it may take sometime and others will have to install the Processing 
> engine which is free but sort of clunky to set up.
>
> There are a number of issues that all this cross talk introduces such as 
> while Processing does crank out 3D object files readily accepted by 3D 
> printers.
> But it handles colors strangely and seems unable to mix these objects with 
> solid primitives during object creation. A task probably better suited to CAD 
> packages.
>
> If this is done you will probably by amazed at all the useless junk that 
> pours out at the far end. Like my undergrads trying to build a toboggan out 
> of concrete.
>
> One issue I see is that the more removed the operator the less incentive he 
> will have to connect his actions to the distant outcome.
> There was a profound moment in my memory when you and Nick , I think, dabbled 
> with misinterpretation vs premature registration...
> I noticed that from the video I had a choice to imagine a squiggly line, a 
> worm, a leaf or a set of leaves with a flower if I waited a bit longer. I 
> thought of the process as a series of unfolding Emergence events passing by 
> very quickly and soon forgotten when the last was accepted.
>
> Perhaps we jump through Metaphoric fiery rings till we think we understand.
> Thank-you again for the suggestions.
> I worry a bit about keeping this process as easy and transparent as possible, 
> avoiding  Python or Anaconda's.
> inSilico Ecology as an idea has startling possibilities. Energy flow will 
> make that possible I think. But just where do I start...Hmmm
>
> vladimyr
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com 
>

Re: [FRIAM] Five Predictions as Cities Learn to Address Wireless Health Risks

2017-07-26 Thread Robert J. Cordingley 

re: RFR exposure:

Did anyone notice in the linked paper 
 
that the control rats probability of survival was lower than the exposed 
rats?


   /At the end of the 2-year study, survival was lower in the control
   group of males than in all groups of male rats exposed to
   GSM-modulated RFR (Figure 3). Survival was also slightly lower in
   control females than in females exposed to 1.5 or 6 W/kg
   GSM-modulated RFR. In rats exposed to CDMA-modulated RFR, survival
   was higher in all groups of exposed males and in the 6 W/kg females
   compared to controls (Figure 4)/

or did I misread?

Robert C

On 7/26/17 2:21 PM, Tom Johnson wrote:

See https://goo.gl/yb3EvZ

TJ


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Re: [FRIAM] Five Predictions as Cities Learn to Address Wireless Health Risks

2017-07-26 Thread Tom Johnson 
Thanks.  Always helpful.
TJ



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On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:39 PM, Marcus Daniels 
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> With regard to visualizing Wifi fields..
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> https://jasmcole.com/2014/08/25/helmhurts/
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> TJ
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Re: [FRIAM] Five Predictions as Cities Learn to Address Wireless Health Risks

2017-07-26 Thread Marcus Daniels 
With regard to visualizing Wifi fields..


https://jasmcole.com/2014/08/25/helmhurts/


From: Friam  on behalf of Tom Johnson 

Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 2:21:19 PM
To: Friam@redfish. com; Steve Ross; George Johnson
Subject: [FRIAM] Five Predictions as Cities Learn to Address Wireless Health 
Risks

See https://goo.gl/yb3EvZ

TJ


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[FRIAM] Five Predictions as Cities Learn to Address Wireless Health Risks

2017-07-26 Thread Tom Johnson 
See https://goo.gl/yb3EvZ

TJ


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