Re: [FRIAM] SSD drive(s)

2018-10-10 Thread Gillian Densmore
Qqu 90 bucks! man I think even i can afford that!
Holly shit that's awesome roger!? where do you find those.
Are those combatible with Ubuntu...if you even know that is.  Before the
mods (probably steve or whoever) say: uh seriusly dude? and at what time?
I love ubuntuu for a lot of reasons...gaming...not so much--thought kinda
moving away from that.

Roger, or anybody know if Ubuntuu works with them?...
My current drive is bing a bit weird even with ubuntuu. So I'll probably
need to get a new one eventually. I'm think if I'd be doing that anyway
just to get two one for windows for games or what else sucks ass to get
wine working with it.
And use a regular dumb ass drive for ubuntu., unless it works with SSDs
now. Didn't about a year or so ago.
Just a thought.

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Re: [FRIAM] Advice on configuring computers

2018-10-10 Thread Gillian Densmore
Nick these all sound like pretty good ideas.  To me it seems like their's
always some need to get a pretty good sized hard drive. FWIW I didn't guess
right for my computer. I thought 1 terabyte would be plenty. I am wrong.
As to the cloud. Yeah I don't know. For back up? It's pretty good. I just
think it's about the right thing for the job.
I don't know if anyone else has suggested this: ram; Windows eats
surprisling large amount.

Question: do you particularly need or really want to stay with a laptop?
HP isn't all that good of a computer company. Just my experience it hasn't
been all that good since...forever at least the 90's and really since the
80's I'd say.

My brother (Tim) a while back got a think pad. At the time seemed to like
it. I don't know  what their like now.  Anyone have some opinions their
anygood still?  I thought his wife

The reason I suggest thinking about a desktop. Is it might be a lot less
hastle to get a good hard drive and ram.  Plus installing them is not at
all straitforward even at a shop with a ton of equipment. experience. I
have done it with a hand me down from owen(dad). But let me tell you on the
apple it was not that straitward and seriusly had a few moments: Oh fuck
please tell me that dropped screw didn't hork something up.


I totally agree with the SSD(their really big thumb drives basically)..and
I didn't know that a 500 gig  one is about 90.. that's awesome !
.

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 12:01 PM Roger Critchlow  wrote:

> I think getting the largest SSD you can afford is a good idea, 500G SSD
> internal drives are around $90, a terabyte is less than twice that.  Get a
> laptop with a small SSD in the best technology and have someone swap in a
> bigger and badder drive.
>
> Just don't lose the laptop.  My dad spilled orange juice into his laptop
> case once on a visit, never did find out why he was travelling with it.  Or
> maybe you should just do that first and solve all your data storage
> problems up front?
>
> Micro SD cards are great, but I can't find any of mine other than the one
> that's plugged into my laptop.  And the slots tend to be all connected with
> USB 2.0 buses last time I checked.  Which I had to do by bench marking the
> same card in a USB 3.0 adapter vs the builtin reader slot, because no one
> specifies how the built ion SD card interface is provisioned.
>
> -- rec --
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 1:42 PM Alfredo Covaleda Vélez <
> alfr...@covaleda.co> wrote:
>
>> Marcus idea is good. During years I have been using a cheap Chinese SD
>> card as main drive using LINUX OS running on an old tiny laptop which lack
>> of a mechanical hard drive. I have just updated to a newer Linux
>> distribution and I also installed Dropbox there, so I always bring my
>> important files. These days you could buy 1024 GB SD for less than 50 US
>> dollars.
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 11:59 AM, Marcus Daniels 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> If the issue is bulk, most laptops will accept these cards:
>>> https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E16820173374
>>>
>>> Marcus
>>>
>>> On 10/10/18, 11:31 AM, "Nick Thompson" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks, everybody.
>>>
>>> In my world, hyperspeed is not a big deal.  The big deal for this 80
>>> year old is cognitive burden.  So a this point I have stuff on the hard
>>> drive, stuff on  a 1t drive  and stuff on Carbonite, and this, for me, is a
>>> ticket for disaster.  So also is a system in which every where I go, I have
>>> to carry not only the laptop but a hard drive as well.  The one thing
>>> eighty-year-olds don't need (as you will soon find out) is another thing to
>>> lose.  SO, the obvious solution is to spring for a a machine with a huge
>>> SSD drive, on the theory that it is the last machine I will ever buy so
>>> what the hell.
>>>
>>> Is there some reason why that ISN'T the obvious solution?  Is it
>>> just COST that has driven you all to have little boxes and wires sticking
>>> out of your laptops, or am I missing something here?
>>>
>>> I HATE to spend more than 1K for a computer.  It seems a mortal
>>> injustice, an assault upon my mongrel puritan soul.  But perhaps it's time
>>> to suck it up?
>>>
>>> The other kind of "suck it up" message you all might give me is to
>>> rationalize my digital storage so I don't need so much.  But for the above
>>> mentioned reasons, I will need help to do that, in which case, members of
>>> the Local Church might suggest a Digital Storage Rationalization Consultant
>>> to help me straighten out the mess I have made.
>>>
>>> Nick
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Nicholas S. Thompson
>>> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
>>> Clark University
>>> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of ? u???
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 9:33 AM
>>> To: FriAM 
>>> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Advice on configuring computers
>>>
>>>  

Re: [FRIAM] Advice on configuring computers

2018-10-10 Thread Roger Critchlow
I think getting the largest SSD you can afford is a good idea, 500G SSD
internal drives are around $90, a terabyte is less than twice that.  Get a
laptop with a small SSD in the best technology and have someone swap in a
bigger and badder drive.

Just don't lose the laptop.  My dad spilled orange juice into his laptop
case once on a visit, never did find out why he was travelling with it.  Or
maybe you should just do that first and solve all your data storage
problems up front?

Micro SD cards are great, but I can't find any of mine other than the one
that's plugged into my laptop.  And the slots tend to be all connected with
USB 2.0 buses last time I checked.  Which I had to do by bench marking the
same card in a USB 3.0 adapter vs the builtin reader slot, because no one
specifies how the built ion SD card interface is provisioned.

-- rec --


On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 1:42 PM Alfredo Covaleda Vélez 
wrote:

> Marcus idea is good. During years I have been using a cheap Chinese SD
> card as main drive using LINUX OS running on an old tiny laptop which lack
> of a mechanical hard drive. I have just updated to a newer Linux
> distribution and I also installed Dropbox there, so I always bring my
> important files. These days you could buy 1024 GB SD for less than 50 US
> dollars.
>
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 11:59 AM, Marcus Daniels 
> wrote:
>
>> If the issue is bulk, most laptops will accept these cards:
>> https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E16820173374
>>
>> Marcus
>>
>> On 10/10/18, 11:31 AM, "Nick Thompson" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, everybody.
>>
>> In my world, hyperspeed is not a big deal.  The big deal for this 80
>> year old is cognitive burden.  So a this point I have stuff on the hard
>> drive, stuff on  a 1t drive  and stuff on Carbonite, and this, for me, is a
>> ticket for disaster.  So also is a system in which every where I go, I have
>> to carry not only the laptop but a hard drive as well.  The one thing
>> eighty-year-olds don't need (as you will soon find out) is another thing to
>> lose.  SO, the obvious solution is to spring for a a machine with a huge
>> SSD drive, on the theory that it is the last machine I will ever buy so
>> what the hell.
>>
>> Is there some reason why that ISN'T the obvious solution?  Is it just
>> COST that has driven you all to have little boxes and wires sticking out of
>> your laptops, or am I missing something here?
>>
>> I HATE to spend more than 1K for a computer.  It seems a mortal
>> injustice, an assault upon my mongrel puritan soul.  But perhaps it's time
>> to suck it up?
>>
>> The other kind of "suck it up" message you all might give me is to
>> rationalize my digital storage so I don't need so much.  But for the above
>> mentioned reasons, I will need help to do that, in which case, members of
>> the Local Church might suggest a Digital Storage Rationalization Consultant
>> to help me straighten out the mess I have made.
>>
>> Nick
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Nicholas S. Thompson
>> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
>> Clark University
>> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of ? u???
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 9:33 AM
>> To: FriAM 
>> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Advice on configuring computers
>>
>> You may already know this ...  Because you're probably using that
>> *thing* called Windows, in order to do this effectively, you have to pay
>> attention to where programs are installed.  Windows installers will try to
>> put everything on your "C" drive.  But they usually give you the option of
>> installing it somewhere else.  Given Windows' massive disk space
>> requirements for Updates, I tend to keep only Windows (and the virtual
>> memory page file) on the 1st drive and put everything else on the secondary
>> drive(s).
>>
>> On 10/10/18 8:25 AM, Barry MacKichan wrote:
>> > My guess is that your 460 GB drive is a spinning hard drive, and
>> that the new computer has a solid state drive (SSD). This is a /good/ thing
>> since the SSD drives are much faster. The prices on Amazon for 1TB drives
>> are around $50 and the 2TB drives are close. My suggestion is to get the
>> new computer, add a relatively humongous hard drive with a USB 3
>> connection, and make some decisions about what you want almost instantly
>> available, and what is merely almost instantly available.
>> >
>> > Better yet, buy two hard drives and start backing up regularly
>> (there are programs to make that automatic).
>> >
>> > --Barry
>> >
>> > On 10 Oct 2018, at 2:25, Nick Thompson wrote:
>> >
>> > I was about to give up on my  460 Gig hd HP because [it was old
>> > and] I was running out of disk space, only to discover that the
>> standard machine offered by my university to replace it has LESS disk
>> space.  Wondering how people are storing stuff.  Are 

Re: [FRIAM] Advice on configuring computers

2018-10-10 Thread Brent Auble
Depending on the size of the computer, with smaller ones being less likely to 
allow it, most of them will be able to have two hard drives.  A frequent 
configuration now is to have a primary drive that Windows is installed on, 
which is an SSD, and a secondary larger non-SSD drive. Annoyingly (and driven 
by cost), the primary SSD drive tends to be relatively small (128-256 GB).  My 
current personal laptop is running Windows 10 and has a ~240 GB primary SSD and 
a 512 GB non-SSD secondary drive.  I'm a digital packrat, and so far that has 
been sufficient disk space.  However, I would feel more comfortable having a 
larger primary SSD drive -- at least 480 GB (not sure why they don't map to the 
powers of two), although 1 TB  -- and a larger secondary drive (also 1 to 2 
TB).  Unfortunately, that sort of configuration will almost certainly exceed a 
$1K price point.

The SD card is a reasonable option for adding additional storage since most 
laptops do have a built-in SD card reader, although I'd confirm that it can 
handle a 400 GB card since that's bigger than the commonly available ones and 
the drivers may not have been updated to handle it (the 256 GB should be fine 
though since that size has been readily available for at least the past year or 
two).  The only caution I'd have on that is to probably not install software to 
it (same with an external drive).
An external SSD drive connected via USB3 (preferably) can be a relatively 
inexpensive way to store additional data, but it definitely has the issue of 
being an external contraption that has to be remembered if you're using it for 
anything other than backup.
My recommendation, if your budget can handle it, is to bite the >$1K bullet and 
get a laptop with a 480+ GB primary SSD and a secondary 1+ TB internal drive 
(SSD or non).  It's a lot easier to handle for daily use and Carbonite should 
be able to back up both drives to the cloud, and you can continue to use your 
existing 1 TB drive as another backup device (or upgrade to a larger drive so 
it can potentially handle everything you could store on the laptop).
Brent

  From: Marcus Daniels 
 To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group  
 Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 12:59 PM
 Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Advice on configuring computers
   
If the issue is bulk, most laptops will accept these cards:  
https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E16820173374

Marcus

On 10/10/18, 11:31 AM, "Nick Thompson"  wrote:

    Thanks, everybody.  
    
    In my world, hyperspeed is not a big deal.  The big deal for this 80 year 
old is cognitive burden.  So a this point I have stuff on the hard drive, stuff 
on  a 1t drive  and stuff on Carbonite, and this, for me, is a ticket for 
disaster.  So also is a system in which every where I go, I have to carry not 
only the laptop but a hard drive as well.  The one thing eighty-year-olds don't 
need (as you will soon find out) is another thing to lose.  SO, the obvious 
solution is to spring for a a machine with a huge SSD drive, on the theory that 
it is the last machine I will ever buy so what the hell.  
    
    Is there some reason why that ISN'T the obvious solution?  Is it just COST 
that has driven you all to have little boxes and wires sticking out of your 
laptops, or am I missing something here?  
    
    I HATE to spend more than 1K for a computer.  It seems a mortal injustice, 
an assault upon my mongrel puritan soul.  But perhaps it's time to suck it up?  
    
    The other kind of "suck it up" message you all might give me is to 
rationalize my digital storage so I don't need so much.  But for the above 
mentioned reasons, I will need help to do that, in which case, members of the 
Local Church might suggest a Digital Storage Rationalization Consultant to help 
me straighten out the mess I have made. 
    
    Nick
    
    
    
    
    
    Nicholas S. Thompson
    Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
    Clark University
    http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
    
    
    -Original Message-
    From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of ? u???
    Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 9:33 AM
    To: FriAM 
    Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Advice on configuring computers
    
    You may already know this ...  Because you're probably using that *thing* 
called Windows, in order to do this effectively, you have to pay attention to 
where programs are installed.  Windows installers will try to put everything on 
your "C" drive.  But they usually give you the option of installing it 
somewhere else.  Given Windows' massive disk space requirements for Updates, I 
tend to keep only Windows (and the virtual memory page file) on the 1st drive 
and put everything else on the secondary drive(s).
    
    On 10/10/18 8:25 AM, Barry MacKichan wrote:
    > My guess is that your 460 GB drive is a spinning hard drive, and that the 
new computer has a solid state drive (SSD). This is a /good/ thing 

Re: [FRIAM] Advice on configuring computers

2018-10-10 Thread Alfredo Covaleda Vélez
Marcus idea is good. During years I have been using a cheap Chinese SD card
as main drive using LINUX OS running on an old tiny laptop which lack of a
mechanical hard drive. I have just updated to a newer Linux distribution
and I also installed Dropbox there, so I always bring my important files.
These days you could buy 1024 GB SD for less than 50 US dollars.

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 11:59 AM, Marcus Daniels 
wrote:

> If the issue is bulk, most laptops will accept these cards:
> https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E16820173374
>
> Marcus
>
> On 10/10/18, 11:31 AM, "Nick Thompson" 
> wrote:
>
> Thanks, everybody.
>
> In my world, hyperspeed is not a big deal.  The big deal for this 80
> year old is cognitive burden.  So a this point I have stuff on the hard
> drive, stuff on  a 1t drive  and stuff on Carbonite, and this, for me, is a
> ticket for disaster.  So also is a system in which every where I go, I have
> to carry not only the laptop but a hard drive as well.  The one thing
> eighty-year-olds don't need (as you will soon find out) is another thing to
> lose.  SO, the obvious solution is to spring for a a machine with a huge
> SSD drive, on the theory that it is the last machine I will ever buy so
> what the hell.
>
> Is there some reason why that ISN'T the obvious solution?  Is it just
> COST that has driven you all to have little boxes and wires sticking out of
> your laptops, or am I missing something here?
>
> I HATE to spend more than 1K for a computer.  It seems a mortal
> injustice, an assault upon my mongrel puritan soul.  But perhaps it's time
> to suck it up?
>
> The other kind of "suck it up" message you all might give me is to
> rationalize my digital storage so I don't need so much.  But for the above
> mentioned reasons, I will need help to do that, in which case, members of
> the Local Church might suggest a Digital Storage Rationalization Consultant
> to help me straighten out the mess I have made.
>
> Nick
>
>
>
>
>
> Nicholas S. Thompson
> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
> Clark University
> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of ? u???
> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 9:33 AM
> To: FriAM 
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Advice on configuring computers
>
> You may already know this ...  Because you're probably using that
> *thing* called Windows, in order to do this effectively, you have to pay
> attention to where programs are installed.  Windows installers will try to
> put everything on your "C" drive.  But they usually give you the option of
> installing it somewhere else.  Given Windows' massive disk space
> requirements for Updates, I tend to keep only Windows (and the virtual
> memory page file) on the 1st drive and put everything else on the secondary
> drive(s).
>
> On 10/10/18 8:25 AM, Barry MacKichan wrote:
> > My guess is that your 460 GB drive is a spinning hard drive, and
> that the new computer has a solid state drive (SSD). This is a /good/ thing
> since the SSD drives are much faster. The prices on Amazon for 1TB drives
> are around $50 and the 2TB drives are close. My suggestion is to get the
> new computer, add a relatively humongous hard drive with a USB 3
> connection, and make some decisions about what you want almost instantly
> available, and what is merely almost instantly available.
> >
> > Better yet, buy two hard drives and start backing up regularly
> (there are programs to make that automatic).
> >
> > --Barry
> >
> > On 10 Oct 2018, at 2:25, Nick Thompson wrote:
> >
> > I was about to give up on my  460 Gig hd HP because [it was old
> > and] I was running out of disk space, only to discover that the
> standard machine offered by my university to replace it has LESS disk
> space.  Wondering how people are storing stuff.  Are the days of buying
> larger and larger hard disks and never making any decisions over?  [sigh}
> Note that cloud storage is not an option to me for half the year.  Are
> people buying terabyte sized USB drives and running software from them or
> telling some software to store to them?  How’s that work?
> >
> >
> >
> > Sorry to bother you with this.  I know the rest of you have real
> > work.
>
> --
> ∄ uǝʃƃ
>
> 
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Re: [FRIAM] Advice on configuring computers

2018-10-10 Thread Marcus Daniels
If the issue is bulk, most laptops will accept these cards:   
https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E16820173374

Marcus

On 10/10/18, 11:31 AM, "Nick Thompson"  wrote:

Thanks, everybody.  

In my world, hyperspeed is not a big deal.  The big deal for this 80 year 
old is cognitive burden.  So a this point I have stuff on the hard drive, stuff 
on  a 1t drive  and stuff on Carbonite, and this, for me, is a ticket for 
disaster.  So also is a system in which every where I go, I have to carry not 
only the laptop but a hard drive as well.  The one thing eighty-year-olds don't 
need (as you will soon find out) is another thing to lose.  SO, the obvious 
solution is to spring for a a machine with a huge SSD drive, on the theory that 
it is the last machine I will ever buy so what the hell.  

Is there some reason why that ISN'T the obvious solution?  Is it just COST 
that has driven you all to have little boxes and wires sticking out of your 
laptops, or am I missing something here?  

I HATE to spend more than 1K for a computer.  It seems a mortal injustice, 
an assault upon my mongrel puritan soul.  But perhaps it's time to suck it up?  

The other kind of "suck it up" message you all might give me is to 
rationalize my digital storage so I don't need so much.  But for the above 
mentioned reasons, I will need help to do that, in which case, members of the 
Local Church might suggest a Digital Storage Rationalization Consultant to help 
me straighten out the mess I have made. 

Nick





Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/


-Original Message-
From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of ? u???
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 9:33 AM
To: FriAM 
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Advice on configuring computers

You may already know this ...  Because you're probably using that *thing* 
called Windows, in order to do this effectively, you have to pay attention to 
where programs are installed.  Windows installers will try to put everything on 
your "C" drive.  But they usually give you the option of installing it 
somewhere else.  Given Windows' massive disk space requirements for Updates, I 
tend to keep only Windows (and the virtual memory page file) on the 1st drive 
and put everything else on the secondary drive(s).

On 10/10/18 8:25 AM, Barry MacKichan wrote:
> My guess is that your 460 GB drive is a spinning hard drive, and that the 
new computer has a solid state drive (SSD). This is a /good/ thing since the 
SSD drives are much faster. The prices on Amazon for 1TB drives are around $50 
and the 2TB drives are close. My suggestion is to get the new computer, add a 
relatively humongous hard drive with a USB 3 connection, and make some 
decisions about what you want almost instantly available, and what is merely 
almost instantly available.
> 
> Better yet, buy two hard drives and start backing up regularly (there are 
programs to make that automatic).
> 
> --Barry
> 
> On 10 Oct 2018, at 2:25, Nick Thompson wrote:
> 
> I was about to give up on my  460 Gig hd HP because [it was old 
> and] I was running out of disk space, only to discover that the standard 
machine offered by my university to replace it has LESS disk space.  Wondering 
how people are storing stuff.  Are the days of buying larger and larger hard 
disks and never making any decisions over?  [sigh} Note that cloud storage is 
not an option to me for half the year.  Are people buying terabyte sized USB 
drives and running software from them or telling some software to store to 
them?  How’s that work?
> 
>  
> 
> Sorry to bother you with this.  I know the rest of you have real 
> work.

--
∄ uǝʃƃ


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Re: [FRIAM] Advice on configuring computers

2018-10-10 Thread Nick Thompson
Thanks, everybody.  

In my world, hyperspeed is not a big deal.  The big deal for this 80 year old 
is cognitive burden.  So a this point I have stuff on the hard drive, stuff on  
a 1t drive  and stuff on Carbonite, and this, for me, is a ticket for disaster. 
 So also is a system in which every where I go, I have to carry not only the 
laptop but a hard drive as well.  The one thing eighty-year-olds don't need (as 
you will soon find out) is another thing to lose.  SO, the obvious solution is 
to spring for a a machine with a huge SSD drive, on the theory that it is the 
last machine I will ever buy so what the hell.  

Is there some reason why that ISN'T the obvious solution?  Is it just COST that 
has driven you all to have little boxes and wires sticking out of your laptops, 
or am I missing something here?  

I HATE to spend more than 1K for a computer.  It seems a mortal injustice, an 
assault upon my mongrel puritan soul.  But perhaps it's time to suck it up?  

The other kind of "suck it up" message you all might give me is to rationalize 
my digital storage so I don't need so much.  But for the above mentioned 
reasons, I will need help to do that, in which case, members of the Local 
Church might suggest a Digital Storage Rationalization Consultant to help me 
straighten out the mess I have made. 

Nick





Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/


-Original Message-
From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of ? u???
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 9:33 AM
To: FriAM 
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Advice on configuring computers

You may already know this ...  Because you're probably using that *thing* 
called Windows, in order to do this effectively, you have to pay attention to 
where programs are installed.  Windows installers will try to put everything on 
your "C" drive.  But they usually give you the option of installing it 
somewhere else.  Given Windows' massive disk space requirements for Updates, I 
tend to keep only Windows (and the virtual memory page file) on the 1st drive 
and put everything else on the secondary drive(s).

On 10/10/18 8:25 AM, Barry MacKichan wrote:
> My guess is that your 460 GB drive is a spinning hard drive, and that the new 
> computer has a solid state drive (SSD). This is a /good/ thing since the SSD 
> drives are much faster. The prices on Amazon for 1TB drives are around $50 
> and the 2TB drives are close. My suggestion is to get the new computer, add a 
> relatively humongous hard drive with a USB 3 connection, and make some 
> decisions about what you want almost instantly available, and what is merely 
> almost instantly available.
> 
> Better yet, buy two hard drives and start backing up regularly (there are 
> programs to make that automatic).
> 
> --Barry
> 
> On 10 Oct 2018, at 2:25, Nick Thompson wrote:
> 
> I was about to give up on my  460 Gig hd HP because [it was old 
> and] I was running out of disk space, only to discover that the standard 
> machine offered by my university to replace it has LESS disk space.  
> Wondering how people are storing stuff.  Are the days of buying larger and 
> larger hard disks and never making any decisions over?  [sigh} Note that 
> cloud storage is not an option to me for half the year.  Are people buying 
> terabyte sized USB drives and running software from them or telling some 
> software to store to them?  How’s that work?
> 
>  
> 
> Sorry to bother you with this.  I know the rest of you have real 
> work.

--
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Re: [FRIAM] Advice on configuring computers

2018-10-10 Thread ∄ uǝʃƃ
You may already know this ...  Because you're probably using that *thing* 
called Windows, in order to do this effectively, you have to pay attention to 
where programs are installed.  Windows installers will try to put everything on 
your "C" drive.  But they usually give you the option of installing it 
somewhere else.  Given Windows' massive disk space requirements for Updates, I 
tend to keep only Windows (and the virtual memory page file) on the 1st drive 
and put everything else on the secondary drive(s).

On 10/10/18 8:25 AM, Barry MacKichan wrote:
> My guess is that your 460 GB drive is a spinning hard drive, and that the new 
> computer has a solid state drive (SSD). This is a /good/ thing since the SSD 
> drives are much faster. The prices on Amazon for 1TB drives are around $50 
> and the 2TB drives are close. My suggestion is to get the new computer, add a 
> relatively humongous hard drive with a USB 3 connection, and make some 
> decisions about what you want almost instantly available, and what is merely 
> almost instantly available.
> 
> Better yet, buy two hard drives and start backing up regularly (there are 
> programs to make that automatic).
> 
> --Barry
> 
> On 10 Oct 2018, at 2:25, Nick Thompson wrote:
> 
> I was about to give up on my  460 Gig hd HP because [it was old and] I 
> was running out of disk space, only to discover that the standard machine 
> offered by my university to replace it has LESS disk space.  Wondering how 
> people are storing stuff.  Are the days of buying larger and larger hard 
> disks and never making any decisions over?  [sigh} Note that cloud storage is 
> not an option to me for half the year.  Are people buying terabyte sized USB 
> drives and running software from them or telling some software to store to 
> them?  How’s that work? 
> 
>  
> 
> Sorry to bother you with this.  I know the rest of you have real work. 

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Re: [FRIAM] Advice on configuring computers

2018-10-10 Thread Barry MacKichan
My guess is that your 460 GB drive is a spinning hard drive, and that 
the new computer has a solid state drive (SSD). This is a *good* thing 
since the SSD drives are much faster. The prices on Amazon for 1TB 
drives are around $50 and the 2TB drives are close. My suggestion is to 
get the new computer, add a relatively humongous hard drive with a USB 3 
connection, and make some decisions about what you want almost instantly 
available, and what is merely almost instantly available.


Better yet, buy two hard drives and start backing up regularly (there 
are programs to make that automatic).


--Barry


On 10 Oct 2018, at 2:25, Nick Thompson wrote:

I was about to give up on my  460 Gig hd HP because [it was old and] I 
was

running out of disk space, only to discover that the standard machine
offered by my university to replace it has LESS disk space.  Wondering 
how
people are storing stuff.  Are the days of buying larger and larger 
hard
disks and never making any decisions over?  [sigh} Note that cloud 
storage
is not an option to me for half the year.  Are people buying terabyte 
sized
USB drives and running software from them or telling some software to 
store

to them?  How's that work?



Sorry to bother you with this.  I know the rest of you have real work.



Nick



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Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

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Re: [FRIAM] Advice on configuring computers

2018-10-10 Thread Marcus Daniels
Nick,

One approach is to run a program that converts the system into a virtual 
machine image.  There are different codes for this depending on your 
virtualization software.  (vmware, hyper v, virtualbox, etc.) Then you get a 
big (!) folder representing your old system that you can put on an external 
multi-terabyte drive and copy as needed.

Marcus

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 10, 2018, at 12:25 AM, Nick Thompson 
mailto:nickthomp...@earthlink.net>> wrote:

I was about to give up on my  460 Gig hd HP because [it was old and] I was 
running out of disk space, only to discover that the standard machine offered 
by my university to replace it has LESS disk space.  Wondering how people are 
storing stuff.  Are the days of buying larger and larger hard disks and never 
making any decisions over?  [sigh} Note that cloud storage is not an option to 
me for half the year.  Are people buying terabyte sized USB drives and running 
software from them or telling some software to store to them?  How’s that work?

Sorry to bother you with this.  I know the rest of you have real work.

Nick

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Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/


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[FRIAM] Advice on configuring computers

2018-10-10 Thread Nick Thompson
I was about to give up on my  460 Gig hd HP because [it was old and] I was
running out of disk space, only to discover that the standard machine
offered by my university to replace it has LESS disk space.  Wondering how
people are storing stuff.  Are the days of buying larger and larger hard
disks and never making any decisions over?  [sigh} Note that cloud storage
is not an option to me for half the year.  Are people buying terabyte sized
USB drives and running software from them or telling some software to store
to them?  How's that work?  

 

Sorry to bother you with this.  I know the rest of you have real work.  

 

Nick  

 

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Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

 


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