Re: [FRIAM] Setting up a new PC
@Nicholas Thompson It is my observation that Sanity is relative. One must first ponder how sane there relatives are first. Then comes a scale of Un-Sanity Doc From Back To The Future WithMad Scientists from Cartoon-Demon Sultan A'zyth-Sith Lords--KornNuffle: Lord of the Dice and RNG---Nurgle-Drunken Ork PartiedTheDude that made B-TreeFS---The Other Dude that Made Cinnamon Flavored Egg nog:Tied with the dude that made ZFS, deb dist updates and possible the dude that created SNAPs and Tripple Dunker Donuts->(is even mor Un-Sanity possible in this dimension?)---Nurgle I think the personS you might be implying are some where between Nuffle, and some skipped right to Creater of ZFS levels of bonkers, it's good gonkers (for now...) but sooner or latter we'll go flying into understanding Qbits multiple forms of Zero, Alephs and parrellel universes is a Good Thing and then smack right into the Cult of the Damned levels. Not quite there yet. and so far everyone is acting they could or should and that's a good thing (I hope) ...but (Nick May need to have someone tell him a bit about warhammer and cuthulu lore for rifftastic scale of bonkersness as humor to work as humor) There is some...pretty good news so far there Nancy (thus far) is able to drum her proverbial fingers to say: seriusly? you did what? and a utter lack of?, so the kids don't get to home early for Vakation... On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 1:49 PM Russell Standish wrote: > On Fri, Nov 08, 2019 at 11:45:14PM -0700, Nick Thompson wrote: > > Hi, russ, again, > > > > I just discovered that my new computer comes up in my directory for my > old one. So I guess I COULD just transfer EVERYTHING on my old > computer onto my new computer. > > > > But surely this is a sheep-dip moment, and I should transfer only data, > emails, and other stuff in the backup. > > You should only transfer that stuff. I have home areas (mounted under > /home) that is backed up, scratch areas that is not backed up, and > everything else just contains system software and applications. > > When commissioning a new machine, I could just copy the home areas, > but usually also copy the scratch areas too, as this often contains > most recently worked on stuff that I don't care particularly if they > disappear (eg github projects), but save time and effort finding and > downloading. I don't copy system stuff, but install everything as a I > need it, mostly from the distro's repo, when I need it. This means > that applications I used once and never used again don't get installed > again. > > But this is a Linux computer, for Windows, it is a virtual machine, > and I back up the entire machine, if only because it takes several > days to set up a Windows machine. But I don't have any personally > interesting stuff on the Windows machine, so I can recover in the > event of it being hosed or virused anyway - the backup is just to save > time. > > Cheers > > > > > Save me from myself. > > > > Nick > > > > Nicholas S. Thompson > > Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology > > Clark University > > http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Russell > Standish > > Sent: Friday, November 08, 2019 2:33 PM > > To: friam > > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Setting up a new PC > > > > On Fri, Nov 08, 2019 at 01:20:31PM -0700, Nick Thompson wrote: > > > Kindly FRIAMers, > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you have any advice to give, or a website to suggest, that will > > > help me decide how to set up the computer I just bought. I back up > > > the old computer to a hard drive every night, and I had always thought > > > to transfer the data to the new one by restoring the backup file to > > > the new computer. But I assume there is a LOT of crap in there I don’t > > > want. SOMEBODY must have thought about this issue and written > something avuncular for people like me. > > > > I always restore from backup, or from the original drive if it is still > working. Getting rid of crap is a different task, requiring dedication and > thought about what you do or don't need. I usually do that either when > slightly bored, or when my disk is full and I'm desparate for space. > > > > Cheers > > -- > > > > > > > Dr Russell StandishPhone 0425 253119 (mobile) > > Principal, High Performance Coders > > Visiting Senior Research Fellowhpco...@hpcoders.com.au > > Economics, Kingston University
Re: [FRIAM] Setting up a new PC
On Fri, Nov 08, 2019 at 11:45:14PM -0700, Nick Thompson wrote: > Hi, russ, again, > > I just discovered that my new computer comes up in my directory for my old > one. So I guess I COULD just transfer EVERYTHING on my old computer onto > my new computer. > > But surely this is a sheep-dip moment, and I should transfer only data, > emails, and other stuff in the backup. You should only transfer that stuff. I have home areas (mounted under /home) that is backed up, scratch areas that is not backed up, and everything else just contains system software and applications. When commissioning a new machine, I could just copy the home areas, but usually also copy the scratch areas too, as this often contains most recently worked on stuff that I don't care particularly if they disappear (eg github projects), but save time and effort finding and downloading. I don't copy system stuff, but install everything as a I need it, mostly from the distro's repo, when I need it. This means that applications I used once and never used again don't get installed again. But this is a Linux computer, for Windows, it is a virtual machine, and I back up the entire machine, if only because it takes several days to set up a Windows machine. But I don't have any personally interesting stuff on the Windows machine, so I can recover in the event of it being hosed or virused anyway - the backup is just to save time. Cheers > > Save me from myself. > > Nick > > Nicholas S. Thompson > Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology > Clark University > http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ > > -Original Message- > From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Russell Standish > Sent: Friday, November 08, 2019 2:33 PM > To: friam > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Setting up a new PC > > On Fri, Nov 08, 2019 at 01:20:31PM -0700, Nick Thompson wrote: > > Kindly FRIAMers, > > > > > > > > Do you have any advice to give, or a website to suggest, that will > > help me decide how to set up the computer I just bought. I back up > > the old computer to a hard drive every night, and I had always thought > > to transfer the data to the new one by restoring the backup file to > > the new computer. But I assume there is a LOT of crap in there I don’t > > want. SOMEBODY must have thought about this issue and written something > > avuncular for people like me. > > I always restore from backup, or from the original drive if it is still > working. Getting rid of crap is a different task, requiring dedication and > thought about what you do or don't need. I usually do that either when > slightly bored, or when my disk is full and I'm desparate for space. > > Cheers > -- > > > Dr Russell StandishPhone 0425 253119 (mobile) > Principal, High Performance Coders > Visiting Senior Research Fellowhpco...@hpcoders.com.au > Economics, Kingston University http://www.hpcoders.com.au > > > > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe > http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove > > > > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove -- Dr Russell StandishPhone 0425 253119 (mobile) Principal, High Performance Coders Visiting Senior Research Fellowhpco...@hpcoders.com.au Economics, Kingston University http://www.hpcoders.com.au FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove
Re: [FRIAM] capitalism vs. individualism
Dave writes: "And, in the case of Trump, motivated by deeply bruised egos." It is just not so. Sure, I was disappointed when George W was elected. I was disappointed by what I saw was a preference too many people had for a good 'old boy rather than a person with ideas for governance. When 9/11 happened, I was supportive of the use of violence. I remember his State of the Union address and being amazed I supported this guy -- the loyal opposition. But this is what had to be done. That carried over to Obama with the drone strikes too. Ugly measures are sometimes needed for the greater good, or at least our good. I see the red hat folks in much the same way I see militant Islamists. People with a backward way of thinking that need constant oversight. A danger to themselves and others. They are cultural regressions waiting to happen, and both of them did. It really doesn't have anything to do with Hillary and Donald. Marcus FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove
Re: [FRIAM] capitalism vs. individualism
While I agree that your *narrative* is plausible, I'm always skeptical of such narratives. The system is more complex than these stories we tell ourselves. I didn't confidently support impeachment until Trump released his readout of the Ukraine call. And most of my more conservative friends didn't support impeachment until the whistleblower came forward. Those who've been shouting for Trump's impeachment for years were not in control of the process. More importantly, I think Obama should have been impeached, as well. To me, his drone strikes were very close to crimes against humanity ... but, of course, crimes against humanity may not be crimes against our country... I don't know. But the larger point is that communities are responsible for policing themselves. Everyone should *welcome* challenges to their narrative. So, Obama should have welcomed impeachment inquiries into his actions. Trump should welcome the impeachment inquiry *and* that into Russian interference. All rational people should welcome challenges to their words and actions. Think of impeachment like your friend telling you there's spinach in your teeth. On 11/9/19 12:05 AM, Prof David West wrote: "They" is a very small number of individuals who directly control/influence the existing impeachment effort — Schiff and 50+ percent of House Members, Hillary and her closest cohort, a finite number of columnists, pundits, and commentators. In my opinion, both the Clinton and the Trump impeachment efforts were not motivated by, and did not actualize, a very necessary system of checks and balances. Both were motivated by personal and partisan animosity. And, in the case of Trump, motivated by deeply bruised egos. "They" cannot believe that 49% of the electorate and most of the populace outside of the northeast, west coast, and enclaves like Santa Fe, could possibly disagree with them. Therefore, Trump supporters are certifiably: racists, deplorables, and/or uneducated fools. And Trump has to be illegitimate, and must be removed from office for no other reason than he is a symbol of "Their" failures. Impeachment is the wrong tool, wielded by the wrong people, for the wrong reasons, at the wrong time. Its inevitable failure will almost guarantee "four more years" and, far more importantly, devalue an essential check & balance tool to the point that future Houses will shy from its use and open the door to "really bad things." There are so many other ways that the country could have been protected from Trump and his re-election made impossible. But those alternatives would require reason, effort, and, most importantly for "They," some "agonizing reappraisal." (Mao) FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove
Re: [FRIAM] capitalism vs. individualism
Glen, "They" is a very small number of individuals who directly control/influence the existing impeachment effort — Schiff and 50+ percent of House Members, Hillary and her closest cohort, a finite number of columnists, pundits, and commentators. In my opinion, both the Clinton and the Trump impeachment efforts were not motivated by, and did not actualize, a very necessary system of checks and balances. Both were motivated by personal and partisan animosity. And, in the case of Trump, motivated by deeply bruised egos. "They" cannot believe that 49% of the electorate and most of the populace outside of the northeast, west coast, and enclaves like Santa Fe, could possibly disagree with them. Therefore, Trump supporters are certifiably: racists, deplorables, and/or uneducated fools. And Trump has to be illegitimate, and must be removed from office for no other reason than he is a symbol of "Their" failures. Impeachment is the wrong tool, wielded by the wrong people, for the wrong reasons, at the wrong time. Its inevitable failure will almost guarantee "four more years" and, far more importantly, devalue an essential check & balance tool to the point that future Houses will shy from its use and open the door to "really bad things." There are so many other ways that the country could have been protected from Trump and his re-election made impossible. But those alternatives would require reason, effort, and, most importantly for "They," some "agonizing reappraisal." (Mao) davew On Fri, Nov 8, 2019, at 7:16 PM, uǝlƃ ☣ wrote: > On 11/8/19 7:44 AM, Prof David West wrote: > > This would be fine, except for the fact, that by doing so, they are almost > > guaranteeing a political outcome that is antithetical to their expressed > > intent. > > Well, my political intent is to actualize the checks and balances on > which the system was predicated. It's the duty, the job, of the House > to execute the inquiry. So, it's not clear *who* you're talking about > when you say "they". You're not talking about this impeachment > supporter, that's for sure. If, after the inquiry, the Senate "acquits" > and the electoral college re-elects Trump, so be it. We did the right > thing. > > But this does wrap back around into conflicting -isms. I'm sympathetic > to the idea that the electoral college is obsolete. I'm also > sympathetic to the idea that mob-rule is dangerous. If our system > (whether a good representation of what the Founders wanted or not) > doesn't integrate democracy with republic well enough, then a) do we > tweak it, e.g. with rank choice voting, or b) scrap it for a new one? > As much as I'd love to see a constitutional convention, my guess is too > few people care enough about others (other countries, the earth, other > life forms) to work authentically toward a solution. Every player would > be trying to game the system for themselves (or their "tribe", whatever > they think that is). So, scrapping it seems too risky. And we're left > with the technical debt and the rule-rot we have. > > Our Constitution and other supporting frameworks like common law are a > great example of a prematurely modeled integration that we're now stuck > with. Maybe there's no way out of this local optimum to a more global > optimum unless we scrap it. > > -- > ☣ uǝlƃ > > > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove
