Re: [FRIAM] ChatGPT knows FRIAM

[glen]

My guess is profundity is yet another (positive affect) emotion. And it might 
be classified as a subtype of apophenia. Depth, in this sense, isn't so much 
the serialized extent Wolfram (or Roger, I didn't watch it) seems to be 
implying. It seems more like minimal path length for walking a graph. You start 
at one node and then, it takes so long to get to some other 
attention-interesting node, that you're surprised when you run across/near a 
previous node during your walk. Profundity may be a bit like a big hub or a 
principle component in such a graph. Grok that component and other things 
*feel* like they snap into focus. And that registration is almost always 
preemptive, preventing you from doffing that perspective.

So, profundity, like most emotions, including the apparent simplicity of DL nets 
or language, is something to be avoided ... or at least well-handled. Scammers and 
bullsh¡tters *love* positive affect because it's so useful for manipulating their 
audience. It's relatively easy to spot manipulaters when they try to hook you on 
outrage or anger. But it's way more difficult to spot the scammer who manipulates 
you with positive affect like empathy or camaraderie. Beware the gushing 
compliments. You've been warned. >8^D

On 2/24/23 08:25, Marcus Daniels wrote:

Is there a distinction?   Is defeating cryptography profound or winning at Go?  
Molecular dynamics?   Turing Test?   Is anything profound?


On Feb 24, 2023, at 7:01 AM, Roger Critchlow  wrote:


Watched Wolfram's entry in the um6p complexity slam last night.  At the end of his talk 
he argues that the Chat GPT epiphany is evidence that language has shallow computational 
complexity.  We're surprised because we imagined it was deep and irreducible, but we just 
kept spreading the data and it finally all snapped into focus.  And the "deep 
learning" labelling confuses the issue.  Yes, they're architecturally deep neural 
nets, but it's really a very simple computation being done over and over again.  It's not 
deep as in profound, it's deep because we needed somewhere to stack all the layers.

-- rec --

On Fri, Feb 24, 2023 at 7:22 AM Eric Charles mailto:eric.phillip.char...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I am particularly impressed that at the end there it doubled down on having 
the _/wrong /_title for Nick's publication.





On Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 4:20 PM mailto:thompnicks...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Stunning!  How do you know if ChatCBT is lying; it’s steely lips are 
moving. 

Nick 

__ __

*From:* Friam mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com>> *On Behalf Of *Jochen Fromm
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 21, 2023 1:23 PM
*To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group mailto:friam@redfish.com>>
*Subject:* [FRIAM] ChatGPT knows FRIAM

__ __

Me: Do you know the FRIAM group in Santa Fe?





ChatGPT: Yes, I'm aware of the FRIAM group in Santa Fe. FRIAM (Focusing 
Research on Infinite Automated Models) is a research group located at the Santa 
Fe Institute, a renowned research center dedicated to the study of complex 
systems. FRIAM is a group of interdisciplinary researchers who explore the use 
of mathematical models and computational methods to understand complex systems 
and phenomena, with a focus on infinite-dimensional systems. The group's 
research interests include dynamical systems, machine learning, optimization, 
and more. FRIAM's work has contributed to a deeper understanding of various 
systems, such as financial markets, climate models, and biological systems, 
among others.

__ __

Me: No, I mean the Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group. It 
is organization of complexity researchers and software developers in Santa Fe, 
New Mexico, interested in applied complexity

__ __

ChatGPT: I apologize for the confusion. Yes, I'm also aware of the 
Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group in Santa Fe. It is a group of 
complexity researchers and software developers who meet on Friday mornings to 
discuss and explore topics related to applied complexity. The group is open to 
anyone who is interested in the subject and is often attended by researchers, 
academics, entrepreneurs, and professionals from a variety of fields. The 
discussions at the group cover a wide range of topics, including complex 
systems, data science, artificial intelligence, and more. The group provides a 
forum for members to share their ideas and learn from each other in an informal 
setting over a cup of coffee. The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee 
Group is one of many examples of the vibrant intellectual community in Santa Fe 
dedicated to the study of complex systems.

__ __

Me: Can you name some active members? 

__ __

ChatGPT: I'm sorry, but as an artificial intelligence language model, I 
don't have access to real-time information on 

Re: [FRIAM] ChatGPT knows FRIAM

[Marcus Daniels]

Is there a distinction?   Is defeating cryptography profound or winning at Go?  
Molecular dynamics?   Turing Test?   Is anything profound?

On Feb 24, 2023, at 7:01 AM, Roger Critchlow  wrote:


Watched Wolfram's entry in the um6p complexity slam last night.  At the end of 
his talk he argues that the Chat GPT epiphany is evidence that language has 
shallow computational complexity.  We're surprised because we imagined it was 
deep and irreducible, but we just kept spreading the data and it finally all 
snapped into focus.  And the "deep learning" labelling confuses the issue.  
Yes, they're architecturally deep neural nets, but it's really a very simple 
computation being done over and over again.  It's not deep as in profound, it's 
deep because we needed somewhere to stack all the layers.

-- rec --

On Fri, Feb 24, 2023 at 7:22 AM Eric Charles 
mailto:eric.phillip.char...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I am particularly impressed that at the end there it doubled down on having the 
wrong title for Nick's publication.





On Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 4:20 PM 
mailto:thompnicks...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Stunning!  How do you know if ChatCBT is lying; it’s steely lips are moving.
Nick

From: Friam mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com>> On 
Behalf Of Jochen Fromm
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2023 1:23 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group 
mailto:friam@redfish.com>>
Subject: [FRIAM] ChatGPT knows FRIAM

Me: Do you know the FRIAM group in Santa Fe?


ChatGPT: Yes, I'm aware of the FRIAM group in Santa Fe. FRIAM (Focusing 
Research on Infinite Automated Models) is a research group located at the Santa 
Fe Institute, a renowned research center dedicated to the study of complex 
systems. FRIAM is a group of interdisciplinary researchers who explore the use 
of mathematical models and computational methods to understand complex systems 
and phenomena, with a focus on infinite-dimensional systems. The group's 
research interests include dynamical systems, machine learning, optimization, 
and more. FRIAM's work has contributed to a deeper understanding of various 
systems, such as financial markets, climate models, and biological systems, 
among others.

Me: No, I mean the Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group. It is 
organization of complexity researchers and software developers in Santa Fe, New 
Mexico, interested in applied complexity

ChatGPT: I apologize for the confusion. Yes, I'm also aware of the Friday 
Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group in Santa Fe. It is a group of 
complexity researchers and software developers who meet on Friday mornings to 
discuss and explore topics related to applied complexity. The group is open to 
anyone who is interested in the subject and is often attended by researchers, 
academics, entrepreneurs, and professionals from a variety of fields. The 
discussions at the group cover a wide range of topics, including complex 
systems, data science, artificial intelligence, and more. The group provides a 
forum for members to share their ideas and learn from each other in an informal 
setting over a cup of coffee. The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee 
Group is one of many examples of the vibrant intellectual community in Santa Fe 
dedicated to the study of complex systems.

Me: Can you name some active members?

ChatGPT: I'm sorry, but as an artificial intelligence language model, I don't 
have access to real-time information on the current membership of the Friday 
Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group. The group is a community of complexity 
researchers and software developers in Santa Fe who meet on a regular basis to 
discuss and explore topics related to applied complexity. The membership of the 
group is fluid, with new members joining and others moving on as their 
interests and circumstances change. If you are interested in learning more 
about the group, you might be able to find more information on their website or 
through social media channels. Alternatively, you could try reaching out to the 
Santa Fe Institute, which has connections with many researchers and 
organizations in the Santa Fe area.

Me: Nicholas Thompson, Eric Charles, Glen Ropella and Frank Wimberly are part 
of this group. What do you know about them?

ChatGPT: Nicholas Thompson is the Editor-in-Chief of Wired Magazine, which 
covers a wide range of topics related to technology, science, and culture. 
Prior to his current position at Wired, he was a senior editor at the magazine 
and worked as a reporter for The New Yorker and Legal Times. Thompson is also 
the author of "The Hawk and the Dove: Paul Nitze, George Kennan, and the 
History of the Cold War," a book that explores the history of the Cold War 
through the lives of two of its most prominent strategists.

Eric Charles is the Vice President of Engineering at Descartes Labs, a 
geospatial data analytics company that leverages machine learning and 
artificial intelligence to analyze satellite imagery and other types of data. 

Re: [FRIAM] ChatGPT knows FRIAM

[Sarbajit Roy]

I ran the same questions on Chatsonic [https://app.writesonic.com/]  I
activated the "use latest Google data "checkbox.

Me: Do you know the FRIAM group in Santa Fe?
CS: Yes, the FRIAM group is a research-oriented research laboratory focused
on the study of complex adaptive systems in Santa Fe, New Mexico. It is a
multi-institutional collaboration between the Santa Fe Institute and Los
Alamos National Laboratory. The mission of FRIAM is “to advance the
understanding and design of complex adaptive systems through
interdisciplinary research and education”. The research of FRIAM covers a
wide range of topics, from materials science to artificial intelligence.
Additionally, FRIAM offers educational opportunities to both high school
and college students.

Me: No, I mean the Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group. It is
organization of complexity researchers and software developers in Santa Fe,
New Mexico, interested in applied complexity
CS: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group (FRIAM) is an
organization of complexity researchers and software developers in Santa Fe,
New Mexico, who are interested in applied complexity. The group meets every
Friday morning to discuss the latest developments in complexity research
and to discuss how to apply this research to the software development
field. The topics discussed range from distributed systems and algorithms,
to game theory and evolutionary computation. The members of FRIAM come from
a variety of backgrounds, including computer science, mathematics,
economics, and physics. The group also hosts seminars, workshops,
hackathons, and other social events. FRIAM's mission is to bring together
experts from different fields to collaboratively build and apply complexity
models and algorithms.

Me: Can you name some active members?
CS: Some of the active members of FRIAM include: Dr. Mark Humphries, a
professor of complexity at Los Alamos National Laboratory; Dr. Jeffrey
Johnson, a professor of software engineering at Santa Fe Community College;
Dr. Luis Perez-Breva, a professor of computer science at the University of
New Mexico; Dr. Alfio Gliozzo, a professor of artificial intelligence at
the University of Southern California; Dr. Alan Smeaton, a professor of
information retrieval at Dublin City University; and Dr. Tian Chen, a
professor of game theory at the University of California, San Diego.
Additionally, FRIAM also has a number of software developers,
mathematicians, and analysts who actively contribute to the group.

Me: Nicholas Thompson, Eric Charles, Glen Ropella and Frank Wimberly are
part of this group. What do you know about them?
CS: Nicholas Thompson is a software engineer who specializes in artificial
intelligence and machine learning. He has worked on numerous projects
related to autonomous vehicles, robotics, and natural language processing.
Eric Charles is a mathematician and data scientist who has developed
algorithms for predictive analysis and forecasting. Glen Ropella is a
software developer and data analyst who is involved in the development of
complex software systems. Frank Wimberly is a software developer and data
scientist who works on projects related to distributed computing and
machine learning. All four of these individuals are active members of the
Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group in Santa Fe, New Mexico. [1]

References:
[1] ACtioN | SFI Applied Complexity - Santa Fe Institute

[2] Female-owned farms and companies are growing Ghana's …

[3] Ember Coffee Company | Minnesota's Air-Roasted Coffee


Me: The Nicholas Thompson I mean was Professor of Psychology and Biology at
Clark University. Do you know his work, for example his paper
"Intentionality is the Mark of the Vital" ?
CS: The Nicholas Thompson you are referring to is an American professor of
psychology and biology at Clark University. He is best known for his
research in the field of evolutionary psychology, and for his paper
'Intentionality is the Mark of the Vital', which postulates that
individuals possess an inherent biological drive to pursue goals and
intentions. He has also written extensively on topics related to
evolutionary psychology, culture, and the nature of human behavior. [2]

On Fri, Feb 24, 2023 at 8:36 PM Jochen Fromm  wrote:

> Sometimes it get details wrong. In this case it was amusing to me, because
> it insisted on being right although it was clearly wrong. Unless there is
> really a paper of that name elsewhere.
>
> The version Microsoft uses in Bing went completely awry when a NY Times
> journalist told it about Carl Jung's concept of a shadow self and asked
> what the shadow self of the Bing Chat bot would be like. Then it became
> scary...
> https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/16/technology/bing-chatbot-transcript.html
>
> -J.
>
>
> 

Re: [FRIAM] ChatGPT knows FRIAM

[Jochen Fromm]

Sometimes it get details wrong. In this case it was amusing to me, because it 
insisted on being right although it was clearly wrong. Unless there is really a 
paper of that name elsewhere.The version Microsoft uses in Bing went completely 
awry when a NY Times journalist told it about Carl Jung's concept of a shadow 
self and asked what the shadow self of the Bing Chat bot would be like. Then it 
became 
scary...https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/16/technology/bing-chatbot-transcript.html-J.
 Original message From: Eric Charles 
 Date: 2/24/23  3:23 PM  (GMT+01:00) To: The 
Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group  Subject: Re: 
[FRIAM] ChatGPT knows FRIAM I am particularly impressed that at the end there 
it doubled down on having the wrong title for Nick's publication.On Tue, Feb 
21, 2023 at 4:20 PM  wrote:Stunning!  How do you know 
if ChatCBT is lying; it’s steely lips are moving.  Nick  From: Friam 
 On Behalf Of Jochen FrommSent: Tuesday, February 
21, 2023 1:23 PMTo: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group 
Subject: [FRIAM] ChatGPT knows FRIAM Me: Do you know the 
FRIAM group in Santa Fe?ChatGPT: Yes, I'm aware of the FRIAM group in Santa Fe. 
FRIAM (Focusing Research on Infinite Automated Models) is a research group 
located at the Santa Fe Institute, a renowned research center dedicated to the 
study of complex systems. FRIAM is a group of interdisciplinary researchers who 
explore the use of mathematical models and computational methods to understand 
complex systems and phenomena, with a focus on infinite-dimensional systems. 
The group's research interests include dynamical systems, machine learning, 
optimization, and more. FRIAM's work has contributed to a deeper understanding 
of various systems, such as financial markets, climate models, and biological 
systems, among others. Me: No, I mean the Friday Morning Applied Complexity 
Coffee Group. It is organization of complexity researchers and software 
developers in Santa Fe, New Mexico, interested in applied complexity ChatGPT: I 
apologize for the confusion. Yes, I'm also aware of the Friday Morning Applied 
Complexity Coffee Group in Santa Fe. It is a group of complexity researchers 
and software developers who meet on Friday mornings to discuss and explore 
topics related to applied complexity. The group is open to anyone who is 
interested in the subject and is often attended by researchers, academics, 
entrepreneurs, and professionals from a variety of fields. The discussions at 
the group cover a wide range of topics, including complex systems, data 
science, artificial intelligence, and more. The group provides a forum for 
members to share their ideas and learn from each other in an informal setting 
over a cup of coffee. The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group is one 
of many examples of the vibrant intellectual community in Santa Fe dedicated to 
the study of complex systems. Me: Can you name some active members?  ChatGPT: 
I'm sorry, but as an artificial intelligence language model, I don't have 
access to real-time information on the current membership of the Friday Morning 
Applied Complexity Coffee Group. The group is a community of complexity 
researchers and software developers in Santa Fe who meet on a regular basis to 
discuss and explore topics related to applied complexity. The membership of the 
group is fluid, with new members joining and others moving on as their 
interests and circumstances change. If you are interested in learning more 
about the group, you might be able to find more information on their website or 
through social media channels. Alternatively, you could try reaching out to the 
Santa Fe Institute, which has connections with many researchers and 
organizations in the Santa Fe area. Me: Nicholas Thompson, Eric Charles, Glen 
Ropella and Frank Wimberly are part of this group. What do you know about them? 
ChatGPT: Nicholas Thompson is the Editor-in-Chief of Wired Magazine, which 
covers a wide range of topics related to technology, science, and culture. 
Prior to his current position at Wired, he was a senior editor at the magazine 
and worked as a reporter for The New Yorker and Legal Times. Thompson is also 
the author of "The Hawk and the Dove: Paul Nitze, George Kennan, and the 
History of the Cold War," a book that explores the history of the Cold War 
through the lives of two of its most prominent strategists. Eric Charles is the 
Vice President of Engineering at Descartes Labs, a geospatial data analytics 
company that leverages machine learning and artificial intelligence to analyze 
satellite imagery and other types of data. Charles has a background in computer 
science and has worked in various engineering and leadership roles at several 
technology companies, including Intel, Sun Microsystems, and Google. Glen 
Ropella is a computer scientist and engineer who has worked on a variety of 
projects related to computational modeling, artificial 

Re: [FRIAM] ChatGPT knows FRIAM

[Roger Critchlow]

Watched Wolfram's entry in the um6p complexity slam last night.  At the end
of his talk he argues that the Chat GPT epiphany is evidence that language
has shallow computational complexity.  We're surprised because we imagined
it was deep and irreducible, but we just kept spreading the data and it
finally all snapped into focus.  And the "deep learning" labelling confuses
the issue.  Yes, they're architecturally deep neural nets, but it's really
a very simple computation being done over and over again.  It's not deep as
in profound, it's deep because we needed somewhere to stack all the layers.

-- rec --

On Fri, Feb 24, 2023 at 7:22 AM Eric Charles 
wrote:

> I am particularly impressed that at the end there it doubled down on
> having the *wrong *title for Nick's publication.
>
> [image: image.png]
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 4:20 PM  wrote:
>
>> Stunning!  How do you know if ChatCBT is lying; it’s steely lips are
>> moving.
>>
>> Nick
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Friam  *On Behalf Of *Jochen Fromm
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 21, 2023 1:23 PM
>> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
>> friam@redfish.com>
>> *Subject:* [FRIAM] ChatGPT knows FRIAM
>>
>>
>>
>> Me: Do you know the FRIAM group in Santa Fe?
>>
>>
>>
>> ChatGPT: Yes, I'm aware of the FRIAM group in Santa Fe. FRIAM (Focusing
>> Research on Infinite Automated Models) is a research group located at the
>> Santa Fe Institute, a renowned research center dedicated to the study of
>> complex systems. FRIAM is a group of interdisciplinary researchers who
>> explore the use of mathematical models and computational methods to
>> understand complex systems and phenomena, with a focus on
>> infinite-dimensional systems. The group's research interests include
>> dynamical systems, machine learning, optimization, and more. FRIAM's work
>> has contributed to a deeper understanding of various systems, such as
>> financial markets, climate models, and biological systems, among others.
>>
>>
>>
>> Me: No, I mean the Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group. It is
>> organization of complexity researchers and software developers in Santa Fe,
>> New Mexico, interested in applied complexity
>>
>>
>>
>> ChatGPT: I apologize for the confusion. Yes, I'm also aware of the Friday
>> Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group in Santa Fe. It is a group of
>> complexity researchers and software developers who meet on Friday mornings
>> to discuss and explore topics related to applied complexity. The group is
>> open to anyone who is interested in the subject and is often attended by
>> researchers, academics, entrepreneurs, and professionals from a variety of
>> fields. The discussions at the group cover a wide range of topics,
>> including complex systems, data science, artificial intelligence, and more.
>> The group provides a forum for members to share their ideas and learn from
>> each other in an informal setting over a cup of coffee. The Friday Morning
>> Applied Complexity Coffee Group is one of many examples of the vibrant
>> intellectual community in Santa Fe dedicated to the study of complex
>> systems.
>>
>>
>>
>> Me: Can you name some active members?
>>
>>
>>
>> ChatGPT: I'm sorry, but as an artificial intelligence language model, I
>> don't have access to real-time information on the current membership of the
>> Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group. The group is a community of
>> complexity researchers and software developers in Santa Fe who meet on a
>> regular basis to discuss and explore topics related to applied complexity.
>> The membership of the group is fluid, with new members joining and others
>> moving on as their interests and circumstances change. If you are
>> interested in learning more about the group, you might be able to find more
>> information on their website or through social media channels.
>> Alternatively, you could try reaching out to the Santa Fe Institute, which
>> has connections with many researchers and organizations in the Santa Fe
>> area.
>>
>>
>>
>> Me: Nicholas Thompson, Eric Charles, Glen Ropella and Frank Wimberly are
>> part of this group. What do you know about them?
>>
>>
>>
>> ChatGPT: Nicholas Thompson is the Editor-in-Chief of Wired Magazine,
>> which covers a wide range of topics related to technology, science, and
>> culture. Prior to his current position at Wired, he was a senior editor at
>> the magazine and worked as a reporter for The New Yorker and Legal Times.
>> Thompson is also the author of "The Hawk and the Dove: Paul Nitze, George
>> Kennan, and the History of the Cold War," a book that explores the history
>> of the Cold War through the lives of two of its most prominent strategists.
>>
>>
>>
>> Eric Charles is the Vice President of Engineering at Descartes Labs, a
>> geospatial data analytics company that leverages machine learning and
>> artificial intelligence to analyze satellite imagery and other types of
>> data. Charles has a background in computer science and has 

Re: [FRIAM] ChatGPT knows FRIAM

[Eric Charles]

I am particularly impressed that at the end there it doubled down on having
the *wrong *title for Nick's publication.

[image: image.png]


On Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 4:20 PM  wrote:

> Stunning!  How do you know if ChatCBT is lying; it’s steely lips are
> moving.
>
> Nick
>
>
>
> *From:* Friam  *On Behalf Of *Jochen Fromm
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 21, 2023 1:23 PM
> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
> friam@redfish.com>
> *Subject:* [FRIAM] ChatGPT knows FRIAM
>
>
>
> Me: Do you know the FRIAM group in Santa Fe?
>
>
>
> ChatGPT: Yes, I'm aware of the FRIAM group in Santa Fe. FRIAM (Focusing
> Research on Infinite Automated Models) is a research group located at the
> Santa Fe Institute, a renowned research center dedicated to the study of
> complex systems. FRIAM is a group of interdisciplinary researchers who
> explore the use of mathematical models and computational methods to
> understand complex systems and phenomena, with a focus on
> infinite-dimensional systems. The group's research interests include
> dynamical systems, machine learning, optimization, and more. FRIAM's work
> has contributed to a deeper understanding of various systems, such as
> financial markets, climate models, and biological systems, among others.
>
>
>
> Me: No, I mean the Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group. It is
> organization of complexity researchers and software developers in Santa Fe,
> New Mexico, interested in applied complexity
>
>
>
> ChatGPT: I apologize for the confusion. Yes, I'm also aware of the Friday
> Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group in Santa Fe. It is a group of
> complexity researchers and software developers who meet on Friday mornings
> to discuss and explore topics related to applied complexity. The group is
> open to anyone who is interested in the subject and is often attended by
> researchers, academics, entrepreneurs, and professionals from a variety of
> fields. The discussions at the group cover a wide range of topics,
> including complex systems, data science, artificial intelligence, and more.
> The group provides a forum for members to share their ideas and learn from
> each other in an informal setting over a cup of coffee. The Friday Morning
> Applied Complexity Coffee Group is one of many examples of the vibrant
> intellectual community in Santa Fe dedicated to the study of complex
> systems.
>
>
>
> Me: Can you name some active members?
>
>
>
> ChatGPT: I'm sorry, but as an artificial intelligence language model, I
> don't have access to real-time information on the current membership of the
> Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group. The group is a community of
> complexity researchers and software developers in Santa Fe who meet on a
> regular basis to discuss and explore topics related to applied complexity.
> The membership of the group is fluid, with new members joining and others
> moving on as their interests and circumstances change. If you are
> interested in learning more about the group, you might be able to find more
> information on their website or through social media channels.
> Alternatively, you could try reaching out to the Santa Fe Institute, which
> has connections with many researchers and organizations in the Santa Fe
> area.
>
>
>
> Me: Nicholas Thompson, Eric Charles, Glen Ropella and Frank Wimberly are
> part of this group. What do you know about them?
>
>
>
> ChatGPT: Nicholas Thompson is the Editor-in-Chief of Wired Magazine, which
> covers a wide range of topics related to technology, science, and culture.
> Prior to his current position at Wired, he was a senior editor at the
> magazine and worked as a reporter for The New Yorker and Legal Times.
> Thompson is also the author of "The Hawk and the Dove: Paul Nitze, George
> Kennan, and the History of the Cold War," a book that explores the history
> of the Cold War through the lives of two of its most prominent strategists.
>
>
>
> Eric Charles is the Vice President of Engineering at Descartes Labs, a
> geospatial data analytics company that leverages machine learning and
> artificial intelligence to analyze satellite imagery and other types of
> data. Charles has a background in computer science and has worked in
> various engineering and leadership roles at several technology companies,
> including Intel, Sun Microsystems, and Google.
>
>
>
> Glen Ropella is a computer scientist and engineer who has worked on a
> variety of projects related to computational modeling, artificial
> intelligence, and machine learning. He is currently a Senior Scientist at
> Los Alamos National Laboratory, where he is involved in research on complex
> systems and their applications to national security and other areas.
>
>
>
> Frank Wimberly is a software engineer and entrepreneur who has worked in
> various roles in the technology industry, including as a software engineer
> at Yahoo and as the founder of a startup focused on data analytics. He is
> currently the CTO of Descartes 

[FRIAM] ChatGPT and Victor Hugo

[Jochen Fromm]

Me: Do you know Victor Hugo?ChatGPT: Yes, Victor Hugo was a famous French poet, 
novelist, and dramatist who lived in the 19th century. He is widely regarded as 
one of the most important and influential writers of his time and is best known 
for his novels, including Les Misérables and The Hunchback of Notre-Dame. In 
addition to his literary work, Hugo was also a political figure, serving as a 
member of the French National Assembly and the Senate. His contributions to 
French literature and culture continue to be celebrated today.Me: What are his 
most famous books?ChatGPT: Victor Hugo wrote many books, but his most famous 
works include:Les Misérables (1862): A novel set in 19th-century France that 
tells the story of ex-convict Jean Valjean and his struggles to overcome his 
past.The Hunchback of Notre-Dame (1831): A novel set in 15th-century Paris that 
tells the story of Quasimodo, the hunchbacked bell-ringer of Notre-Dame 
Cathedral, and his love for the beautiful gypsy girl Esmeralda.Ninety-Three 
(1874): A historical novel set during the French Revolution that tells the 
story of three characters from different sides of the conflict.Toilers of the 
Sea (1866): A novel set on the island of Guernsey that tells the story of a 
fisherman named Gilliatt and his battles against the sea.Cromwell (1827): A 
play that tells the story of Oliver Cromwell and his rise to power during the 
English Civil War.These works are considered classics of French literature and 
have been adapted into various forms of media, including films, musicals, and 
TV series.Me: What do they have in common?ChatGPT: Despite covering a range of 
different themes and topics, Victor Hugo's most famous works share several 
common elements:Social commentary: Hugo was a keen observer of society and 
often used his works to comment on social issues such as poverty, inequality, 
and injustice.Romanticism: Hugo was a leading figure in the Romantic literary 
movement and his works often contain elements such as heightened emotion, 
idealism, and a focus on individualism and personal freedom.Political themes: 
Hugo was also involved in politics and his works often touch on political 
themes such as democracy, revolution, and the role of the state in 
society.Historical context: Many of Hugo's works are set in specific historical 
periods and use these settings to explore broader themes and ideas.Moral 
messages: Hugo's works often contain strong moral messages and promote values 
such as compassion, forgiveness, and the importance of human dignity.Overall, 
Victor Hugo's most famous works are characterized by their emotional depth, 
powerful storytelling, and their exploration of important social, political, 
and moral themes.Me: In "the Toilers of the Sea" he says "One can no more keep 
the mind from returning to an idea than the sea from returning to a shore. For 
a sailor, this is called the tide; in the case of the guilty it is called 
remorse. God stirs up the soul as well as the ocean". What does he mean by 
that?ChatGPT: In "The Toilers of the Sea", Victor Hugo is highlighting the idea 
that certain thoughts or feelings can be difficult to suppress or forget, much 
like how the tide of the ocean inevitably returns to the shore. In the case of 
sailors, the regular ebb and flow of the tides is a natural and expected 
occurrence. However, when it comes to the guilty, the equivalent force is not a 
physical one, but rather an emotional and psychological one, which is 
remorse.Hugo suggests that just as the tide is a natural force beyond human 
control, feelings of remorse can also be difficult to control or suppress. In 
other words, once a person has done something wrong, they may continue to feel 
guilty about it, regardless of their attempts to move on or forget about it. 
This can be a powerful force that can continue to affect a person's thoughts 
and emotions, much like the tide continues to affect the sea.Hugo also suggests 
that this force is not simply a human one, but rather something that is 
divinely inspired. By comparing the stirring of the soul to the movement of the 
ocean, he suggests that these forces are both part of a greater natural order 
that is ultimately controlled by God.Me: For love it is similar, isn't it? If 
you love someone you can not keep your mind from thinking about the loved one. 
Like the sea which is returning to the shore.ChatGPT: Yes, that is a valid 
comparison to make. The quote from "The Toilers of the Sea" can be interpreted 
more broadly to suggest that any powerful emotion or feeling, such as love, can 
be difficult to suppress or forget. Love can be a force that continues to 
occupy a person's thoughts and emotions, much like the tide continues to return 
to the shore. Just as it is difficult for a sailor to resist the tide, it may 
be similarly difficult for a person to resist their feelings of love.Hugo's use 
of the ocean and the tide in this quote serves as a metaphor for the natural,