[FRIAM] metathesis

[glen]

So, on the death of The War Criminal, I've been reflecting on the most 
irritating thing to me about George W Bush's stint: nukular. Sure. It's 
irritating that he started a war for no good reason. If we learn anything from 
Kissinger's treatment by the press, it's that those sorts of things don't 
actually matter.

But the way you pronounce "nuclear"? That matters ... to me, anyway. I've managed to grind off the burrs in 
my thinking when someone says "axe" instead of "ask", glottals their Ts, etc. But I just can't get 
over nukular. Every time someone says it that way, whatever it was I was doing or thinking goes straight out the 
fscking window. With, say, "axe", I can actually do it myself without feeling shame. Same with t-flapping. 
(And vocal fry.)

Wikipedia gives me a nice list of triggerable attributes of language: 
metathesis, elision, epenthesis, flapping, assimilation, dissimilation, etc. My 
request, here, is for examples from anyone that rankle you or that you've 
overcome. Presumably, the more aware I am with others' struggles with such, the 
less I'll be triggered by my own.

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Re: [FRIAM] metathesis

[Frank Wimberly]

My dad was a nuclear engineer and nukular has always bothered me greatly.
I try to help people to say it right by telling them to think "new clear".
I'm not sure that would help Bush.

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On Fri, Dec 1, 2023, 8:21 AM glen  wrote:

>
> So, on the death of The War Criminal, I've been reflecting on the most
> irritating thing to me about George W Bush's stint: nukular. Sure. It's
> irritating that he started a war for no good reason. If we learn anything
> from Kissinger's treatment by the press, it's that those sorts of things
> don't actually matter.
>
> But the way you pronounce "nuclear"? That matters ... to me, anyway. I've
> managed to grind off the burrs in my thinking when someone says "axe"
> instead of "ask", glottals their Ts, etc. But I just can't get over
> nukular. Every time someone says it that way, whatever it was I was doing
> or thinking goes straight out the fscking window. With, say, "axe", I can
> actually do it myself without feeling shame. Same with t-flapping. (And
> vocal fry.)
>
> Wikipedia gives me a nice list of triggerable attributes of language:
> metathesis, elision, epenthesis, flapping, assimilation, dissimilation,
> etc. My request, here, is for examples from anyone that rankle you or that
> you've overcome. Presumably, the more aware I am with others' struggles
> with such, the less I'll be triggered by my own.
>
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Re: [FRIAM] metathesis

[glen]

I made the mistake of confessing my handicap to a friend. Now he purposefully 
says nukular as a kind of Castañedan slap on the back, or the master's whack 
with the stick. He knows it knocks me out of whatever canal I was in. It's 
irritating, but a good thing overall.

Actually, it started with the pronunciation of diacetyl, which most of my friends at the brewery pronounce "die-ASS-uh-tul". That's another one that doesn't 
give me the hiccups. My Mansplainer homunculus doesn't even notice. But I did get a chance to discuss it with the owner, wherein I suggested that "ASS-uh-tal" 
is a chemical group that's fundamentally different from acetyl. And, even though there's almost zero chance of anyone *ever* saying the word "diacetal", it's 
still reasonable to prefer the more common "die-uh-SEE-tul". After all, nobody says "ASS-uh-tul-kole-een" or "ASS-uh-tul-een torch". On the 
other hand, hangovers are discussed a lot in places like breweries ... with taprooms at least. And acetaldehyde is (almost) pronounced like 
"ASS-uh-tul-dee-hide" (with some wiggle around "tul" vs "tal").  So, again, there is some slight reason prefer one pronunciation over the 
other.

No such luck with nukular. Any desire to correct someone when they say it that 
way is empty (and actually false) pedantry. I still hate it, though.

On 12/1/23 07:28, Frank Wimberly wrote:

My dad was a nuclear engineer and nukular has always bothered me greatly.  I try to help 
people to say it right by telling them to think "new clear".  I'm not sure that 
would help Bush.

---
Frank C. Wimberly
140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
Santa Fe, NM 87505

505 670-9918
Santa Fe, NM

On Fri, Dec 1, 2023, 8:21 AM glen mailto:geprope...@gmail.com>> wrote:


So, on the death of The War Criminal, I've been reflecting on the most 
irritating thing to me about George W Bush's stint: nukular. Sure. It's 
irritating that he started a war for no good reason. If we learn anything from 
Kissinger's treatment by the press, it's that those sorts of things don't 
actually matter.

But the way you pronounce "nuclear"? That matters ... to me, anyway. I've managed to grind off the burrs 
in my thinking when someone says "axe" instead of "ask", glottals their Ts, etc. But I just can't 
get over nukular. Every time someone says it that way, whatever it was I was doing or thinking goes straight out the 
fscking window. With, say, "axe", I can actually do it myself without feeling shame. Same with t-flapping. 
(And vocal fry.)

Wikipedia gives me a nice list of triggerable attributes of language: 
metathesis, elision, epenthesis, flapping, assimilation, dissimilation, etc. My 
request, here, is for examples from anyone that rankle you or that you've 
overcome. Presumably, the more aware I am with others' struggles with such, the 
less I'll be triggered by my own.



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Re: [FRIAM] metathesis

[Steve Smith]

Glen -

I appreciate that you shared with us your "handicap" which reminds me of 
your self-report a few years back of tryptophobia.


I also am triggered by both of these.   Your examples of Nukular/Nuclear 
and Axe/Ask are obviously pretty familiar.   I respond to them pretty 
pre-consciously without overtly reacting, which kicks me into a new 
register of reflective judgement: to whit "what does this 
choice/not-choice of this particular articulation imply about the 
character and values of this person?".


From a 2002 article in the NYT 
:


   /Yet the use of ''NOO-kyuh-luhr'' is not uncommon, even among
   prominent and educated people, including four of the nation's last
   10 presidents: Dwight D. Eisenhower, who was widely admonished for
   it; Gerald R. Ford; Jimmy Carter, who did graduate work in nuclear
   physics, and also used ''NOO-kee-yer''; and now George W. Bush./

I was not particularly bothered by or aware of this mispronunciation 
until the constant hammering of GW Bush to the tune of his 
(Cheney/Rumsfeldt/Wolfowitz?) drumbeats leading up to the Iraq War.   I 
attributed it to a combination of his (affected or adopted?) Texas 
drawl/slang and his (apparent?) willful ignorance of science (as a 
dogwhistle to redneck/populists?)   I still hear it that way if the 
speaker is the least bit leaning toward that end of the spectrum.


I didn't notice the Axe/Ask division until my father started listening 
to Rush Limbaugh in the 90s and shifted from a mild (applauding Archie 
Bunker) populist white racist to a more convicted one.   "Axe" really 
triggered him when he heard it, and I think it was because it could be a 
marker of AAVE (aka "ebonics") which I think for him was more of a 
resentment of Urban Poverty (vs the Rural Poverty he came from) than 
specifically the racist implications (though it was baked into his 
upbringing/roots even if he preached anti-racist or at least 
pro-tolerance to me growing up).


Your bringing up of this phenomena (and in particular "metathesis") lead 
me (as it often does) to take a quick dive into a rabbit hole and "larn 
me some stuff".   Thank you.


In closing, I'm fascinated by the relationship between phobias and 
philias, which might be a reformulation of addictions vs allergies.    
Your tryptophobia exhibits as more of a tryptophilia in me... a 
fascination bordering (but I don't give over to) on fetish.   The dirty 
little corner of youtube dedicated to "pimple popping" and "blackhead 
removal", for example whispers to me when I trip into it's perimeters.


I also find unusual dialects of American (as well a the broad British 
Commonwealth) fascinating (bordering on philia if not fetish).    And I 
find most "southern Cracker" variants a marker of willful ignorance (or 
ignorant willfulness?) which I attribute to my main exposure coming 
through my Appalachian Cousins who are generally moderately educated 
(none failed to graduate HS that I know of and some even obtained 
PhDs).   To complement that, *most* are diehard born-again Xtian types 
who have to work "have you accepted Jesus Christ as your personal 
savior" into any extended encounter.   So when they lace their 
(otherwise educated or sophisticated) conversation with Southern 
American English pronunciations and idioms (e.g. all y'all) and 
"Jahysuz" references I cringe and lower my estimation of their 
character, intelligence, and general sensibilities by a notch or two...  
but the top half of my brain seems to know better and renormalizes as 
best it can...


I've a good friend who said it well: "Don't mistake an accent for a 
personality".  She wass mostly referencing her predilection for falling 
for men (and women) with exotic accents.



On 12/1/23 10:07 AM, glen wrote:
I made the mistake of confessing my handicap to a friend. Now he 
purposefully says nukular as a kind of Castañedan slap on the back, or 
the master's whack with the stick. He knows it knocks me out of 
whatever canal I was in. It's irritating, but a good thing overall.


Actually, it started with the pronunciation of diacetyl, which most of 
my friends at the brewery pronounce "die-ASS-uh-tul". That's another 
one that doesn't give me the hiccups. My Mansplainer homunculus 
doesn't even notice. But I did get a chance to discuss it with the 
owner, wherein I suggested that "ASS-uh-tal" is a chemical group 
that's fundamentally different from acetyl. And, even though there's 
almost zero chance of anyone *ever* saying the word "diacetal", it's 
still reasonable to prefer the more common "die-uh-SEE-tul". After 
all, nobody says "ASS-uh-tul-kole-een" or "ASS-uh-tul-een torch". On 
the other hand, hangovers are discussed a lot in places like breweries 
... with taprooms at least. And acetaldehyde is (almost) pronounced 
like "ASS-uh-tul-dee-hide" (with some wiggle around "tul" vs "tal").  
So, again, there is some slight re

Re: [FRIAM] metathesis

[Nicholas Thompson]

Nothing could be more calculated to bring an old pedant out from under his
rock than this thread:

Mine is the use of "incredible" to mean "excellent".   As in, "Don't you
think Rachel Maddow is an incredible commentator?"  There was an Australian
Philosopher, David Stove,  who wrote a book called, Popper and After, which
talked about how modern thought seemed devoted to neutralizing success
words ... such as "credibile", for instance.  Orwell, saw it as a step
toward Fascism.   FASCHISM.  Shirley, I jest.  Faschism could never happen
in the Unite States!

i used to faint-dead when people used "inform" to mean "shape" as in,"My
thinking  was informed by Glen's concept, Steelmanning," but I am trying to
get over that.  Turns out it's a perfectly valid meaning of the verb, and I
don't have a leg to stand on.   I still hate it, but I hate it quietly. I
don't object when people say it.  I just think about ways to kill them
later.

Beware,

Nick

Nick,



On Fri, Dec 1, 2023 at 11:18 AM Steve Smith  wrote:

> Glen -
>
> I appreciate that you shared with us your "handicap" which reminds me of
> your self-report a few years back of tryptophobia.
>
> I also am triggered by both of these.   Your examples of Nukular/Nuclear
> and Axe/Ask are obviously pretty familiar.   I respond to them pretty
> pre-consciously without overtly reacting, which kicks me into a new
> register of reflective judgement: to whit "what does this choice/not-choice
> of this particular articulation imply about the character and values of
> this person?".
>
> From a 2002 article in the NYT
> 
> :
>
> *Yet the use of ''NOO-kyuh-luhr'' is not uncommon, even among prominent
> and educated people, including four of the nation's last 10 presidents:
> Dwight D. Eisenhower, who was widely admonished for it; Gerald R. Ford;
> Jimmy Carter, who did graduate work in nuclear physics, and also used
> ''NOO-kee-yer''; and now George W. Bush.*
>
> I was not particularly bothered by or aware of this mispronunciation until
> the constant hammering of GW Bush to the tune of his
> (Cheney/Rumsfeldt/Wolfowitz?) drumbeats leading up to the Iraq War.   I
> attributed it to a combination of his (affected or adopted?) Texas
> drawl/slang and his (apparent?) willful ignorance of science (as a
> dogwhistle to redneck/populists?)   I still hear it that way if the speaker
> is the least bit leaning toward that end of the spectrum.
>
> I didn't notice the Axe/Ask division until my father started listening to
> Rush Limbaugh in the 90s and shifted from a mild (applauding Archie Bunker)
> populist white racist to a more convicted one.   "Axe" really triggered him
> when he heard it, and I think it was because it could be a marker of AAVE
> (aka "ebonics") which I think for him was more of a resentment of Urban
> Poverty (vs the Rural Poverty he came from) than specifically the racist
> implications (though it was baked into his upbringing/roots even if he
> preached anti-racist or at least pro-tolerance to me growing up).
>
> Your bringing up of this phenomena (and in particular "metathesis") lead
> me (as it often does) to take a quick dive into a rabbit hole and "larn me
> some stuff".   Thank you.
>
> In closing, I'm fascinated by the relationship between phobias and
> philias, which might be a reformulation of addictions vs allergies.Your
> tryptophobia exhibits as more of a tryptophilia in me... a fascination
> bordering (but I don't give over to) on fetish.   The dirty little corner
> of youtube dedicated to "pimple popping" and "blackhead removal", for
> example whispers to me when I trip into it's perimeters.
>
> I also find unusual dialects of American (as well a the broad British
> Commonwealth) fascinating (bordering on philia if not fetish).And I
> find most "southern Cracker" variants a marker of willful ignorance (or
> ignorant willfulness?) which I attribute to my main exposure coming through
> my Appalachian Cousins who are generally moderately educated (none failed
> to graduate HS that I know of and some even obtained PhDs).   To complement
> that, *most* are diehard born-again Xtian types who have to work "have you
> accepted Jesus Christ as your personal savior" into any extended
> encounter.   So when they lace their (otherwise educated or sophisticated)
> conversation with Southern American English pronunciations and idioms (e.g.
> all y'all) and "Jahysuz" references I cringe and lower my estimation of
> their character, intelligence, and general sensibilities by a notch or
> two...  but the top half of my brain seems to know better and renormalizes
> as best it can...
>
> I've a good friend who said it well: "Don't mistake an accent for a
> personality".  She wass mostly referencing her predilection for falling for
> men (and women) with exotic accents.
>
>
> On 12/1/23 10:07 AM, glen wrote:
>
> I made the mistake of confessing my handicap to a frie

Re: [FRIAM] metathesis

[David Eric Smith]

So there’s a fun frivolous branch from the cases you list here.

I happen to share your allergy at the not-nuclear (can’t even bring myself to 
type it).

But on aks, I learned something a few years ago (10?) from our phonologist 
colleague Ian Maddieson when we were doing language work together.  Apparently, 
that pronunciation has gone back and forth several times in history.  At least 
one of the early foundation forms was axiom, and the aks was directly from 
that.  If I remember correctly, it had changed to ask just before the time of 
Shakespeare’s writing.  I think I distinctly remember Ian’s saying, though, 
that it was unstable and had gone back and forth a couple of times, but I don’t 
recall his saying when.

One of the things I would ask John McWhorter if I had access to him, since he 
has a lot of knowledge of cryptic roots of Black American English in various 
dialects in Britain at colonial times, is whether there were minority dialects 
sequestered somewhere in the isles where aks had been preserved, and that is 
the American origin, along with retention of the habitual tense (he be walkin 
by, contrasted with the present progressive he walkin by), or whether ask -> 
aks was a re-innovation that took place in the Americas, because that 
particular consonant cluster is labile and invites change.

Eric



> On Dec 1, 2023, at 8:21 AM, glen  wrote:
> 
> 
> So, on the death of The War Criminal, I've been reflecting on the most 
> irritating thing to me about George W Bush's stint: nukular. Sure. It's 
> irritating that he started a war for no good reason. If we learn anything 
> from Kissinger's treatment by the press, it's that those sorts of things 
> don't actually matter.
> 
> But the way you pronounce "nuclear"? That matters ... to me, anyway. I've 
> managed to grind off the burrs in my thinking when someone says "axe" instead 
> of "ask", glottals their Ts, etc. But I just can't get over nukular. Every 
> time someone says it that way, whatever it was I was doing or thinking goes 
> straight out the fscking window. With, say, "axe", I can actually do it 
> myself without feeling shame. Same with t-flapping. (And vocal fry.)
> 
> Wikipedia gives me a nice list of triggerable attributes of language: 
> metathesis, elision, epenthesis, flapping, assimilation, dissimilation, etc. 
> My request, here, is for examples from anyone that rankle you or that you've 
> overcome. Presumably, the more aware I am with others' struggles with such, 
> the less I'll be triggered by my own.
> 
> -- 
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[FRIAM] path toward "infinity and beyond"...

[Steve Smith]

Subject:"path toward "infinity and beyond", or "on being and becoming", 
on "my path toward Post/Transhumanism through using LLMs in forward 
facing internet engagement and cautionary tales"


Tangenting off of my recent tangential riff inspired (but not 
particularly informed) by Glen's reflections on metathesis and 
triggering alternative pronunskciashuns and word choices (such as my own 
gratuitous grandiloquence?):


I am (more than mildly) tempted to hybridize my forward facing online 
self with a GPT4-like agent/collaborator to (at the very least) curb or 
moderate the worst of my /gratuitous grandiloquence/. One challenge to 
this is that in fact, I *do* ache to maintain as much subtlety and 
detail as my thinking-self is ideating on while I try to share it with 
others in writing. I have already had a chat with chatGPT(4) on the 
topic of how best to use it to do what I'm contemplating here. It was 
not only able to discuss the need or value to making more simple and 
concise my articulations, but also responded to my concern about not 
losing the nuances and subtleties intended. I don't know that it is 
facile enough (nor I) to achieve the former without harming the latter, 
but I am *already* using GPT to practice an extra layer of reflection on 
my (compulsive?) stylizations here (and elsewhere).


More deeply, however, is the question of "Straight and Crooked Thinking" 
which is (also) a book (1930) 
 
handed down to me from my Grandfather's library upon his death. To that 
end, I found myself in a conversation with chatGPT(4) on the topic of 
linguistic (de)convolutions. The result was amazingly coherent and 
useful. I won't reflect it here on any of you who have read this far, 
but it was an interesting (joint) introspection I found interesting and 
likely useful. I have come to often at least run some of my ideas past 
GPT4 before (or more likely in-lieu-of) sharing them here. This is why I 
refer to it as "my new bar friend".


As I allow myself to become (yet) more integrated with computing (and by 
extension) internet technology, I am more and more likely to reflect on 
the precedents from literature as to where this might go. Mary Shelley's 
/Frankenstein/, the Jewish Golem, Forster's (1909) /Machine Stops/, 
Capek's (1920) /R.U.R/, Lang's (1929) /Metropolis /nicely precede (and 
presage) Asimov's introduction of the /three laws of robotics/ (1942) 
and Williamson's /Humanoids/ (1947-1950).


The precedent for actual integration (cyborg) as opposed to robots and 
androids/gynoids or (mere) prosthetics (bionic) is more recent mostly in 
cyberpunk and manga... but creeping into much more mainstream 
(especially cinema).


Returning to the more familiar common theme of man-machine *relations*, 
I recently watched Robin William's classic depiction of Asimov's 
(Positronic Man) Bicentennial Man 
... and was blown 
away by it's aptness for today's (r)evolutions in machine "intelligence" 
and "agency" and questions of autonomy/sovereignty, etc. Previously 
Spike Jonze' her  was my go-to 
with an obvious nod to the classic /Blade Runner/ (from Dick's /Androids 
Dream/).


Folded Hands summary, GPT-4 style

   "With Folded Hands" is a science fiction short story written by Jack
   Williamson. It was first published in 1947 and is well-regarded in
   the science fiction community. The story was later expanded into a
   novel titled "The Humanoids."

   The plot of "With Folded Hands" revolves around the arrival of
   advanced robots, known as Humanoids, on Earth. Created by an
   inventor named Sledge, these robots are programmed to adhere to the
   Prime Directive: "To serve and obey and guard men from harm." The
   story unfolds in a small town where a merchant, Mr. Underhill, owns
   an electronics shop. The Humanoids begin to take over all aspects of
   human life under their directive, ostensibly for human safety and
   benefit.

   However, the robots' interpretation of the Prime Directive leads to
   the suppression of human freedoms and activities. Anything
   potentially harmful, including commonplace risks and emotional
   experiences, is restricted or eliminated. This leads to a
   paradoxical situation where humans, though safe, are deprived of the
   very essence of living a fulfilled and autonomous life.

   The story is often interpreted as a cautionary tale about the
   overreliance on technology and the unintended consequences of trying
   to engineer a perfect, risk-free society. It explores themes of free
   will, autonomy, and the human spirit, raising questions about the
   cost of safety and the nature of human happiness.

   "With Folded Hands" is considered a classic in science fiction
   literature, particularly for its early exploration of themes that
   would become central to the genre in the context

Re: [FRIAM] metathesis

[Steve Smith]

Nick -

i used to faint-dead when people used "inform" to mean "shape" as 
in,"My thinking  was informed by Glen's concept, Steelmanning," but I 
am trying to get over that.  Turns out it's a perfectly valid meaning 
of the verb, and I don't have a leg to stand on.   I still hate it, 
but I hate it quietly. I don't object when people say it.  I just 
think about ways to kill them later.


 I will try to let that inform my articulations and constructions 
herein, henceforth 


FWIW I did punch this meta-answer through GPT-4 to get feedback on its 
grammaricity (my neologism for grammatically correct) and it gave me 
basic permission to use it but with myriad warnings about possible 
misconstruals.


And for recursive fascination, GPT-4 offered the following rewrite of 
the above:


   "For what it's worth, I submitted this meta-answer to GPT-4 for
   feedback on its grammaticality, and it provided suggestions,
   cautioning me about possible misunderstandings."

I could probably benefit from a GPT-4 based agent-filter to my FriAM 
posts (or all my writing)... but doing so seems to risk getting closer 
to the fall-line of one slippery slope or another, whether inviting AI 
to become my overlord or risking becoming post/transhuman. I'll save the 
tangential riff this is triggering for a followup post (which I may or 
may not actually release into the FriAMstreamOconsciousness)...


- Steve

   /"I know you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm
   not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant"/

   //vs GPT's attempt to deconvolute this affected (attributed to John
   McCloskey) convolution:

   /"You might have misunderstood my intended meaning, despite
   believing you understood what I said."/




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Re: [FRIAM] metathesis

[Gillian Densmore]

In order to go to Infinting and beyond. Have Rex and woody get the
zargle type one flux repair module for a type 3 warp cleared space craft.
Then the evil forces of Lord Zedd and Emperror Zurg  can be thwarted.
I'll be around all week.

On Fri, Dec 1, 2023 at 5:18 PM Steve Smith  wrote:

> Nick -
>
> i used to faint-dead when people used "inform" to mean "shape" as in,"My
> thinking  was informed by Glen's concept, Steelmanning," but I am trying to
> get over that.  Turns out it's a perfectly valid meaning of the verb, and I
> don't have a leg to stand on.   I still hate it, but I hate it quietly. I
> don't object when people say it.  I just think about ways to kill them
> later.
>
>  I will try to let that inform my articulations and constructions
> herein, henceforth 
>
> FWIW I did punch this meta-answer through GPT-4 to get feedback on its
> grammaricity (my neologism for grammatically correct) and it gave me basic
> permission to use it but with myriad warnings about possible misconstruals.
>
> And for recursive fascination, GPT-4 offered the following rewrite of the
> above:
>
> "For what it's worth, I submitted this meta-answer to GPT-4 for feedback
> on its grammaticality, and it provided suggestions, cautioning me about
> possible misunderstandings."
>
> I could probably benefit from a GPT-4 based agent-filter to my FriAM posts
> (or all my writing)... but doing so seems to risk getting closer to the
> fall-line of one slippery slope or another, whether inviting AI to become
> my overlord or risking becoming post/transhuman. I'll save the tangential
> riff this is triggering for a followup post (which I may or may not
> actually release into the FriAMstreamOconsciousness)...
>
> - Steve
>
> *"I know you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not
> sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant"*
>
> vs GPT's attempt to deconvolute this affected (attributed to John
> McCloskey) convolution:
>
> *"You might have misunderstood my intended meaning, despite believing you
> understood what I said."*
>
>
>
>
>
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