Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Static Site Generator

2015-10-20 Thread Marcus Daniels 
I was thinking use a lower-level interface to the screen bitmap in the browser 
such that it would render directly.
In other words, don’t convert, make LaTeX a first-class MIME Content-Type.

This<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Document_Style_Semantics_and_Specification_Language>
 was a nice design.  A statically typed version would have been even better.
XSL was the right idea, but a strange execution.  Should have just used a 
functional programming language, like 
this<http://hackage.haskell.org/package/HaXml>.
Building a good set of multi-target (page) flow objects is an enormous job, 
like making a PDF implementation or a XML/HTML browser engine.

One could always wrap LaTeX in a statically typed language to make it better 
behaved, e.g. HaTeX.  Which is about how I 
feel about LaTeX.  ☺

Marcus
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Interesting, but why not build the site in PDF (possibly with alternative 
versions for desktops and mobiles)?

Also, it didn’t work for me:

kpathsea: Running mktexpk --mfmode / --bdpi 72 --mag 1+0/72 --dpi 72 cmr6

(see the transcript file for additional information)

kpathsea: pipe(): Function not implemented

kpathsea: Appending font creation commands to missfont.log.)

—Barry

On 19 Oct 2015, at 19:25, Marcus Daniels wrote:

If you like LaTeX (I can't imagine), you shouldn't stand for converting to HTML!

http://manuels.github.io/texlive.js/

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Interesting. Obviously you didn't use latex2html for this. Did you use latexml?

I've used latexml as part of a kindle conversion process that goes via epub.

Cheers

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Our web-site was done with LaTeX - http://idart.sandia.gov/

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Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Static Site Generator

2015-10-20 Thread Barry MacKichan 
FYI, Jonathan Kew, the author of XeTeX, wrote an iPhone version of TeX 
(or probably XeTeX). When you turned the phone on its side, it ran TeX 
again with the new margins. I don’t think the app was ever released, 
but it is as close as I’ve heard about to a tex MIME viewer. He did 
the work for http://rivervalleytechnologies.com.


—Barry



On 20 Oct 2015, at 10:32, Marcus Daniels wrote:

I was thinking use a lower-level interface to the screen bitmap in the 
browser such that it would render directly.
In other words, don’t convert, make LaTeX a first-class MIME 
Content-Type.


This<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Document_Style_Semantics_and_Specification_Language> 
was a nice design.  A statically typed version would have been even 
better.
XSL was the right idea, but a strange execution.  Should have just 
used a functional programming language, like 
this<http://hackage.haskell.org/package/HaXml>.
Building a good set of multi-target (page) flow objects is an enormous 
job, like making a PDF implementation or a XML/HTML browser engine.


One could always wrap LaTeX in a statically typed language to make it 
better behaved, e.g. HaTeX.  Which 
is about how I feel about LaTeX.  ☺


Marcus
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Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2015 10:22 AM
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Subject: Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Static Site Generator


Interesting, but why not build the site in PDF (possibly with 
alternative versions for desktops and mobiles)?


Also, it didn’t work for me:

kpathsea: Running mktexpk --mfmode / --bdpi 72 --mag 1+0/72 --dpi 72 
cmr6


(see the transcript file for additional information)

kpathsea: pipe(): Function not implemented

kpathsea: Appending font creation commands to missfont.log.)

—Barry

On 19 Oct 2015, at 19:25, Marcus Daniels wrote:

If you like LaTeX (I can't imagine), you shouldn't stand for 
converting to HTML!


http://manuels.github.io/texlive.js/

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Interesting. Obviously you didn't use latex2html for this. Did you use 
latexml?


I've used latexml as part of a kindle conversion process that goes via 
epub.


Cheers

On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 12:04:13AM +, Parks, Raymond wrote:

Our web-site was done with LaTeX - http://idart.sandia.gov/

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Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Static Site Generator

2015-10-20 Thread Barry MacKichan 
Interesting, but why not build the site in PDF (possibly with 
alternative versions for desktops and mobiles)?


Also, it didn’t work for me:

	kpathsea: Running mktexpk --mfmode / --bdpi 72 --mag 1+0/72 --dpi 72 
cmr6


(see the transcript file for additional information)
kpathsea: pipe(): Function not implemented

kpathsea: Appending font creation commands to missfont.log.)

—Barry


On 19 Oct 2015, at 19:25, Marcus Daniels wrote:

If you like LaTeX  (I can't imagine), you shouldn't stand for 
converting to HTML!


http://manuels.github.io/texlive.js/

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Standish

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Subject: Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Static Site Generator

Interesting. Obviously you didn't use latex2html for this. Did you use 
latexml?


I've used latexml as part of a kindle conversion process that goes via 
epub.


Cheers

On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 12:04:13AM +, Parks, Raymond wrote:

Our web-site was done with LaTeX - http://idart.sandia.gov/

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Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Static Site Generator

2015-10-20 Thread Russell Standish 
On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 10:21:39AM -0600, Barry MacKichan wrote:
> Interesting, but why not build the site in PDF (possibly with
> alternative versions for desktops and mobiles)?
> 

For the simple practical reason that PDF viewers suck on all but the
most powerful workstations. Perhaps in about 5 years when Moore's law
has had a chance to catch up.

Also, crucially, you need hyperlinks to work, which they don't in any
of the PDF viewers I've used.

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Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Static Site Generator

2015-10-19 Thread Parks, Raymond 
Our web-site was done with LaTeX - http://idart.sandia.gov/

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On Oct 11, 2015, at 7:27 PM, Russell Standish wrote:

> It's odd. I've been building websites in LaTeX for more than 20 years
> now. Much of what passes for modern (eg markdown, CMSes, FrontPage and so on)
> just seem to be reinvented wheels, poorly implemented.
> 
> Having chosen my horse, and invested heavily in it, LaTeX just keeps
> delivering. Such as producing full colour overhead transparencies
> years before Power Point became available. Such as the afore mentioned
> website generation. And of course, it excels in what it was originally
> designed for, producing beautiful books.
> 
> Anyway, I'm sure its not everybody's cup of tea.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 08:15:57PM -0500, Gary Schiltz wrote:
>> Do websites in LaTeX? Wow!
>> 
>> (with my apologies, and my thickest, faux-Aussie Paul Hogan accent)
>> 
>> “Geek??? Now, *that’s* a geek!"
>> 
>> On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 7:41 PM, Russell Standish  
>> wrote:
>>> Probably not what you want, but I author all my websites in LaTeX, and
>>> use a combination of LaTeX2HTML and Makefiles to publish the site. I
>>> use subversion or git to do content management. You could also use
>>> latexml, which provides a slightly more modern output, but I like
>>> LaTex2HTML because its basically a bunch of perl scripts that are
>>> eminenently hackable.
>>> 
>>> Great for static websites, with all the added goodness of LaTeX (which
>>> is a superior markup language for most purposes than Markdown).
>>> 
>>> Its also fairly easy to embed PHP and Javascript code directly into
>>> the LaTeX source files too, so dynamic websites are also possible, but
>>> with LaTeX macros, and perl scriptability, a lot can be done statically.
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 04:16:47PM -0600, Robert Wall wrote:
 Hi Owen, et al.,
 
 You might also try this nearly-free ($17)
 ,
 well-supported , database-free CMS
 
 called Kirby .  It is file-based and very easy to
 implement just about anything you want to do on an individual personal
 website. You can also experiment locally with Kirby (without a host) on
 MAMP, XAMPP and PHP's built-in server for local installations.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Robert Wall
 
 On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 1:57 PM, Owen Densmore  wrote:
 
> Are any of us using a static site generator? Here's a list:
>https://www.staticgen.com/
> Basically it gets rid of the need for a Content Management System,
> compiling the site from Markdown and html templates.
> 
> I'm thinking of doing this, my old ISP died and it would be a good time
> for a change.
> 
>   -- Owen
> 
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Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Static Site Generator

2015-10-19 Thread Russell Standish 
Interesting. Obviously you didn't use latex2html for this. Did you use
latexml?

I've used latexml as part of a kindle conversion process that goes via
epub.

Cheers

On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 12:04:13AM +, Parks, Raymond wrote:
> Our web-site was done with LaTeX - http://idart.sandia.gov/
> 
> Ray Parks
> Consilient Heuristician/IDART Old-Timer
> V: 505-844-4024  M: 505-238-9359  P: 505-951-6084
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Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Static Site Generator

2015-10-19 Thread Marcus Daniels 
If you like LaTeX  (I can't imagine), you shouldn't stand for converting to 
HTML!

http://manuels.github.io/texlive.js/

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Subject: Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Static Site Generator

Interesting. Obviously you didn't use latex2html for this. Did you use latexml?

I've used latexml as part of a kindle conversion process that goes via epub.

Cheers

On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 12:04:13AM +, Parks, Raymond wrote:
> Our web-site was done with LaTeX - http://idart.sandia.gov/
> 
> Ray Parks
> Consilient Heuristician/IDART Old-Timer
> V: 505-844-4024  M: 505-238-9359  P: 505-951-6084
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> 

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