Re: [FRIAM] Call blockers

[Gillian Densmore]

You can still get a voice number. For what it's worth. But they changed it
from a true seperate number to glorified call forwarding. -_-.. When I used
it's call screen feature people that wanted to call me. Would read me the
riot act (looking at you kim) And scam callers would get through to my land
line eventually anyway.  Among the worst offenders are debt collectors. I
don't have any. (not that I know of) but once in a while I'll get smashed
for hours on end from the same leach. I don't answer. And pretty quickly
one of my  blocking apps will block them.  For a while because I was in a
mood, I had one set up to randomly pick from: the infamous I am lucutus of
borg sound clip, the loudestset of horns I could find, a high pitched
whistle, them talking at themselves, and my favorite: a oldschool modem
dial tone. The hight of hilarity getting a scam email saying to stop stop
stop we give up! And then being disturbed to wonder how they got my email
address even if it went to spam.

On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 12:56 PM glen  wrote:

> Well, I'm not sure if you can still get a Google Voice number. But I just
> now added my landline as the "linked number" in my Google Voice account.
> And it now forwards there, screens calls, etc. So it's still there. Of
> course Google will/does kill things arbitrarily.
>
> On 4/19/23 08:37, Russ Abbott wrote:
> > I think Google has stopped its telephone service. It got enough samples
> of
> > voices to train its systems and needs no more.
> >
> > It's fairly easy to turn a phone that supports voice mail and caller ID
> > into a call blocker.
> >
> > - Have the phone answer on the first ring.
> > - Record your message saying that this is a screening and voice mail
> > system. Instruct people to introduce themselves. Tell them that if
> no one
> > answers, they should continue with their message.
> > - When the phone rings, look at the screen to see who's calling and
> > listen to the self-introduction. Then decide if you want to answer.
> >
> > Virtually all spam callers will either hang up before identifying
> > themselves or identify themselves in such a way that you know not to
> answer.
> >
> > -- Russ
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 7:46 AM glen  wrote:
> >
> >> You should be able to forward to your landline from a virtual number
> like
> >> Google Voice. Then only give out your virtual number. You should be
> able to
> >> pick up your landline and Google will talk to you with a phone menu of
> >> options.
> >>
> >> Of course, that doesn't solve people getting your landline number from a
> >> phone book ... do people still use phone books?
> >>
> >> On 4/19/23 07:17, Barry MacKichan wrote:
> >>> I like Frank’s solution, but I’m also interested in a solution for our
> >> land line. The other option for the land line is to cancel it entirely,
> but
> >> about six weeks ago I got a call from a friend who looked us up when he
> was
> >> in Santa Fe, which is when he found out we had moved. He found our land
> >> line number and I just happened to be around when his call came in, and
> his
> >> caller id was announced by voice bot that lives in our land line. We
> might
> >> not have reconnected had I discontinued the land line. TBH, though, I
> had
> >> been trying to get his number — we were both thinking about the upcoming
> >> 60th anniversary of our canoe trip to York Factory on Hudson’s Bay.
> >>>
> >>
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> >>
> >> I think Google has stopped its telephone service. It got enough samples
> of voices to train its systems and needs no more.
> >>
> >> It's fairly easy to turn a phone that supports voice mail and caller ID
> into a call blocker.
> >>
> >>   * Have the phone answer on the first ring.
> >>   * Record your message saying that this is a screening and voice mail
> system. Instruct people to introduce themselves. Tell them that if no one
> answers, they should continue with their message.
> >>   * When the phone rings, look at the screen to see who's calling and
> listen to the self-introduction. Then decide if you want to answer.
> >>
> >> Virtually all spam callers will either hang up before identifying
> themselves or identify themselves in such a way that you know not to answer.
> >>
> >> __-- Russ
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 7:46 AM glen  geprope...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >> You should be able to forward to your landline from a virtual
> number like Google Voice. Then 

Re: [FRIAM] Call blockers

[glen]

Well, I'm not sure if you can still get a Google Voice number. But I just now added my 
landline as the "linked number" in my Google Voice account. And it now forwards 
there, screens calls, etc. So it's still there. Of course Google will/does kill things 
arbitrarily.

On 4/19/23 08:37, Russ Abbott wrote:

I think Google has stopped its telephone service. It got enough samples of
voices to train its systems and needs no more.

It's fairly easy to turn a phone that supports voice mail and caller ID
into a call blocker.

- Have the phone answer on the first ring.
- Record your message saying that this is a screening and voice mail
system. Instruct people to introduce themselves. Tell them that if no one
answers, they should continue with their message.
- When the phone rings, look at the screen to see who's calling and
listen to the self-introduction. Then decide if you want to answer.

Virtually all spam callers will either hang up before identifying
themselves or identify themselves in such a way that you know not to answer.

-- Russ


On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 7:46 AM glen  wrote:


You should be able to forward to your landline from a virtual number like
Google Voice. Then only give out your virtual number. You should be able to
pick up your landline and Google will talk to you with a phone menu of
options.

Of course, that doesn't solve people getting your landline number from a
phone book ... do people still use phone books?

On 4/19/23 07:17, Barry MacKichan wrote:

I like Frank’s solution, but I’m also interested in a solution for our

land line. The other option for the land line is to cancel it entirely, but
about six weeks ago I got a call from a friend who looked us up when he was
in Santa Fe, which is when he found out we had moved. He found our land
line number and I just happened to be around when his call came in, and his
caller id was announced by voice bot that lives in our land line. We might
not have reconnected had I discontinued the land line. TBH, though, I had
been trying to get his number — we were both thinking about the upcoming
60th anniversary of our canoe trip to York Factory on Hudson’s Bay.




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I think Google has stopped its telephone service. It got enough samples of 
voices to train its systems and needs no more.

It's fairly easy to turn a phone that supports voice mail and caller ID into a 
call blocker.

  * Have the phone answer on the first ring.
  * Record your message saying that this is a screening and voice mail system. 
Instruct people to introduce themselves. Tell them that if no one answers, they 
should continue with their message.
  * When the phone rings, look at the screen to see who's calling and listen to 
the self-introduction. Then decide if you want to answer.

Virtually all spam callers will either hang up before identifying themselves or 
identify themselves in such a way that you know not to answer.

__-- Russ


On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 7:46 AM glen mailto:geprope...@gmail.com>> wrote:

You should be able to forward to your landline from a virtual number like 
Google Voice. Then only give out your virtual number. You should be able to 
pick up your landline and Google will talk to you with a phone menu of options.

Of course, that doesn't solve people getting your landline number from a 
phone book ... do people still use phone books?

On 4/19/23 07:17, Barry MacKichan wrote:
> I like Frank’s solution, but I’m also interested in a solution for our 
land line. The other option for the land line is to cancel it entirely, but about 
six weeks ago I got a call from a friend who looked us up when he was in Santa Fe, 
which is when he found out we had moved. He found our land line number and I just 
happened to be around when his call came in, and his caller id was announced by 
voice bot that lives in our land line. We might not have reconnected had I 
discontinued the land line. TBH, though, I had been trying to get his number — we 
were both thinking about the upcoming 60th anniversary of our canoe trip to York 
Factory on Hudson’s Bay.
>

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Re: [FRIAM] Call blockers

[Russ Abbott]

I think Google has stopped its telephone service. It got enough samples of
voices to train its systems and needs no more.

It's fairly easy to turn a phone that supports voice mail and caller ID
into a call blocker.

   - Have the phone answer on the first ring.
   - Record your message saying that this is a screening and voice mail
   system. Instruct people to introduce themselves. Tell them that if no one
   answers, they should continue with their message.
   - When the phone rings, look at the screen to see who's calling and
   listen to the self-introduction. Then decide if you want to answer.

Virtually all spam callers will either hang up before identifying
themselves or identify themselves in such a way that you know not to answer.

-- Russ


On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 7:46 AM glen  wrote:

> You should be able to forward to your landline from a virtual number like
> Google Voice. Then only give out your virtual number. You should be able to
> pick up your landline and Google will talk to you with a phone menu of
> options.
>
> Of course, that doesn't solve people getting your landline number from a
> phone book ... do people still use phone books?
>
> On 4/19/23 07:17, Barry MacKichan wrote:
> > I like Frank’s solution, but I’m also interested in a solution for our
> land line. The other option for the land line is to cancel it entirely, but
> about six weeks ago I got a call from a friend who looked us up when he was
> in Santa Fe, which is when he found out we had moved. He found our land
> line number and I just happened to be around when his call came in, and his
> caller id was announced by voice bot that lives in our land line. We might
> not have reconnected had I discontinued the land line. TBH, though, I had
> been trying to get his number — we were both thinking about the upcoming
> 60th anniversary of our canoe trip to York Factory on Hudson’s Bay.
> >
>
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Re: [FRIAM] Call blockers

[glen]

You should be able to forward to your landline from a virtual number like 
Google Voice. Then only give out your virtual number. You should be able to 
pick up your landline and Google will talk to you with a phone menu of options.

Of course, that doesn't solve people getting your landline number from a phone 
book ... do people still use phone books?

On 4/19/23 07:17, Barry MacKichan wrote:

I like Frank’s solution, but I’m also interested in a solution for our land 
line. The other option for the land line is to cancel it entirely, but about 
six weeks ago I got a call from a friend who looked us up when he was in Santa 
Fe, which is when he found out we had moved. He found our land line number and 
I just happened to be around when his call came in, and his caller id was 
announced by voice bot that lives in our land line. We might not have 
reconnected had I discontinued the land line. TBH, though, I had been trying to 
get his number — we were both thinking about the upcoming 60th anniversary of 
our canoe trip to York Factory on Hudson’s Bay.



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Re: [FRIAM] Call blockers

[Angel Edward]

Nomorobo works pretty well on our landline. Free with comcast.

Ed
__

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Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of New Mexico

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> On Apr 19, 2023, at 8:17 AM, Barry MacKichan  
> wrote:
> 
> I like Frank’s solution, but I’m also interested in a solution for our land 
> line. The other option for the land line is to cancel it entirely, but about 
> six weeks ago I got a call from a friend who looked us up when he was in 
> Santa Fe, which is when he found out we had moved. He found our land line 
> number and I just happened to be around when his call came in, and his caller 
> id was announced by voice bot that lives in our land line. We might not have 
> reconnected had I discontinued the land line. TBH, though, I had been trying 
> to get his number — we were both thinking about the upcoming 60th anniversary 
> of our canoe trip to York Factory on Hudson’s Bay.
> 
> —Barry
> 
> On 18 Apr 2023, at 15:23, Frank Wimberly wrote:
> 
> My Google phone warns me of suspected spam calls.  When it does so I have the 
> choice of "Screening" the call, blocking it, or answering it.  If I select 
> "Screen" the caller hears 
> 
> "Hi.  The person you are calling is using a Google screening service.  Please 
> say your name and the reason you are calling.  The person will get a 
> recording and transcript of what you say."
> 
> Or words to that effect.  Almost nobody leaves a message.
> 
> ---
> Frank C. Wimberly
> 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, 
> Santa Fe, NM 87505
> 
> 505 670-9918
> Santa Fe, NM
> 
> On Tue, Apr 18, 2023, 12:47 PM Nicholas Thompson  > wrote:
> Phellow Phriammers, 
> 
> After having my phone completely tied up by robocalls during some medical 
> troubles, I put out cold hard cash for the CPR Call Blocker recommended by my 
> carrier.  I have now blocked 70 numbers, and new ones come in daily, although 
>  the rate has substantially decreased.  I have to say, pressing that big red 
> block button is very satisfying.  It also has a mass-blocking function for 
> voip-rogue calls, name withheld calls, private caller calls,and any area code 
> you take a dislike to. 
>  Still I have questions. 
> 
> 1.  Has anybody else tried this device? 
> 2.  Do you fully understand the navigation functions
> 3.  Is it working for you?
> 4.   Do you have any wisdom to share? 
> 
> I  chatted up one of the callers.  I suggested that at a time of full 
> employment, perhaps a bright guy like him might get a better job.  He replied 
> that he was being paid quite well for his efforts!  Apparently the number of 
> any fool who answers their phone is worth $7.  
> 
> Nick 
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Re: [FRIAM] Call blockers

[Barry MacKichan]

I like Frank’s solution, but I’m also interested in a solution for 
our land line. The other option for the land line is to cancel it 
entirely, but about six weeks ago I got a call from a friend who looked 
us up when he was in Santa Fe, which is when he found out we had moved. 
He found our land line number and I just happened to be around when his 
call came in, and his caller id was announced by voice bot that lives in 
our land line. We might not have reconnected had I discontinued the land 
line. TBH, though, I had been trying to get his number — we were both 
thinking about the upcoming 60th anniversary of our canoe trip to York 
Factory on Hudson’s Bay.


—Barry

On 18 Apr 2023, at 15:23, Frank Wimberly wrote:

My Google phone warns me of suspected spam calls.  When it does so I 
have
the choice of "Screening" the call, blocking it, or answering it.  If 
I

select "Screen" the caller hears

"Hi.  The person you are calling is using a Google screening service.
Please say your name and the reason you are calling.  The person will 
get a

recording and transcript of what you say."

Or words to that effect.  Almost nobody leaves a message.

---
Frank C. Wimberly
140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
Santa Fe, NM 87505

505 670-9918
Santa Fe, NM

On Tue, Apr 18, 2023, 12:47 PM Nicholas Thompson 


wrote:


Phellow Phriammers,

After having my phone completely tied up by robocalls during some 
medical
troubles, I put out cold hard cash for the CPR Call Blocker 
recommended by
my carrier.  I have now blocked 70 numbers, and new ones come in 
daily,
although  the rate has substantially decreased.  I have to say, 
pressing
that big red block button is very satisfying.  It also has a 
mass-blocking

function for voip-rogue calls, name withheld calls, private caller
calls,and any area code you take a dislike to.
 Still I have questions.

1.  Has anybody else tried this device?
2.  Do you fully understand the navigation functions
3.  Is it working for you?
4.   Do you have any wisdom to share?

I  chatted up one of the callers.  I suggested that at a time of full
employment, perhaps a bright guy like him might get a better job.  He
replied that he was being paid quite well for his efforts!  
Apparently the

number of any fool who answers their phone is worth $7.

Nick

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Re: [FRIAM] Call blockers

[Frank Wimberly]

Android Pixel cell phone.  It's nice to hear your voice, Nick.

---
Frank C. Wimberly
140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
Santa Fe, NM 87505

505 670-9918
Santa Fe, NM

On Tue, Apr 18, 2023, 10:50 PM Nicholas Thompson 
wrote:

> Frank
>
> Landline? Or have you given up on that old stuff.
>
> n
>
> On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 1:24 PM Frank Wimberly 
> wrote:
>
>> My Google phone warns me of suspected spam calls.  When it does so I have
>> the choice of "Screening" the call, blocking it, or answering it.  If I
>> select "Screen" the caller hears
>>
>> "Hi.  The person you are calling is using a Google screening service.
>> Please say your name and the reason you are calling.  The person will get a
>> recording and transcript of what you say."
>>
>> Or words to that effect.  Almost nobody leaves a message.
>>
>> ---
>> Frank C. Wimberly
>> 140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
>> Santa Fe, NM 87505
>>
>> 505 670-9918
>> Santa Fe, NM
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 18, 2023, 12:47 PM Nicholas Thompson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Phellow Phriammers,
>>>
>>> After having my phone completely tied up by robocalls during some
>>> medical troubles, I put out cold hard cash for the CPR Call Blocker
>>> recommended by my carrier.  I have now blocked 70 numbers, and new ones
>>> come in daily, although  the rate has substantially decreased.  I have to
>>> say, pressing that big red block button is very satisfying.  It also has a
>>> mass-blocking function for voip-rogue calls, name withheld calls, private
>>> caller calls,and any area code you take a dislike to.
>>>  Still I have questions.
>>>
>>> 1.  Has anybody else tried this device?
>>> 2.  Do you fully understand the navigation functions
>>> 3.  Is it working for you?
>>> 4.   Do you have any wisdom to share?
>>>
>>> I  chatted up one of the callers.  I suggested that at a time of full
>>> employment, perhaps a bright guy like him might get a better job.  He
>>> replied that he was being paid quite well for his efforts!  Apparently the
>>> number of any fool who answers their phone is worth $7.
>>>
>>> Nick
>>>
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Re: [FRIAM] Call blockers

[Nicholas Thompson]

Frank

Landline? Or have you given up on that old stuff.

n

On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 1:24 PM Frank Wimberly  wrote:

> My Google phone warns me of suspected spam calls.  When it does so I have
> the choice of "Screening" the call, blocking it, or answering it.  If I
> select "Screen" the caller hears
>
> "Hi.  The person you are calling is using a Google screening service.
> Please say your name and the reason you are calling.  The person will get a
> recording and transcript of what you say."
>
> Or words to that effect.  Almost nobody leaves a message.
>
> ---
> Frank C. Wimberly
> 140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
> Santa Fe, NM 87505
>
> 505 670-9918
> Santa Fe, NM
>
> On Tue, Apr 18, 2023, 12:47 PM Nicholas Thompson 
> wrote:
>
>> Phellow Phriammers,
>>
>> After having my phone completely tied up by robocalls during some medical
>> troubles, I put out cold hard cash for the CPR Call Blocker recommended by
>> my carrier.  I have now blocked 70 numbers, and new ones come in daily,
>> although  the rate has substantially decreased.  I have to say, pressing
>> that big red block button is very satisfying.  It also has a mass-blocking
>> function for voip-rogue calls, name withheld calls, private caller
>> calls,and any area code you take a dislike to.
>>  Still I have questions.
>>
>> 1.  Has anybody else tried this device?
>> 2.  Do you fully understand the navigation functions
>> 3.  Is it working for you?
>> 4.   Do you have any wisdom to share?
>>
>> I  chatted up one of the callers.  I suggested that at a time of full
>> employment, perhaps a bright guy like him might get a better job.  He
>> replied that he was being paid quite well for his efforts!  Apparently the
>> number of any fool who answers their phone is worth $7.
>>
>> Nick
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Re: [FRIAM] Call blockers

[Nicholas Thompson]

gill,  thanks for the warning.  Be assured that I don't any more.  Just
press the big red button.  NIck

On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 12:47 PM Nicholas Thompson 
wrote:

> Phellow Phriammers,
>
> After having my phone completely tied up by robocalls during some medical
> troubles, I put out cold hard cash for the CPR Call Blocker recommended by
> my carrier.  I have now blocked 70 numbers, and new ones come in daily,
> although  the rate has substantially decreased.  I have to say, pressing
> that big red block button is very satisfying.  It also has a mass-blocking
> function for voip-rogue calls, name withheld calls, private caller
> calls,and any area code you take a dislike to.
>  Still I have questions.
>
> 1.  Has anybody else tried this device?
> 2.  Do you fully understand the navigation functions
> 3.  Is it working for you?
> 4.   Do you have any wisdom to share?
>
> I  chatted up one of the callers.  I suggested that at a time of full
> employment, perhaps a bright guy like him might get a better job.  He
> replied that he was being paid quite well for his efforts!  Apparently the
> number of any fool who answers their phone is worth $7.
>
> Nick
>
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Re: [FRIAM] Call blockers

[Gillian Densmore]

lol ed...oh I don't know just. I bet if you step on a lego you might be
able to match that person  the trick would be to record it, and have it on
stand by just in case. Now cursing them out and ranting them is encouraged,
lol you never now just how much you need to get out of your system.
One of my friends worked at ebay in customer support back in the day. Him
being him got tired of them calling him, at work. Him being him and IIRC in
the marines. I have no idea how he  held down a part time job and do
military stuff, but some he did. lol sooo one day pookie called him at
work. Since had a nasty argument with, I think it was his boyfriend. He
came up with a plan to read them the riot act for call him at work, and why
not at home! do your job right man! kind of thinking. So I guess he figured
how to right a perl script to trace the call somehow and did exactly that
while cursing them out and playing  eminem at full volume.
Most of them stopped neer instantly. This is the same man that while he
worked for a theater went full medieval on a projector that was wonky, and
didn't work conistantly. after 15 minutes it not only worked. but did so
better than it had before. and kept working for quite a while afterwords.

On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 5:07 PM Angel Edward  wrote:

> I tried Nick’s approach a while ago (before full employment) and the
> person on the other end starting crying. Made me feel terrible.
>
> Another time, I cursed at one who was telling me a series of lies. He
> responded with an admirable string of curses that I was unable to match.
>
> Ed
> __
>
> Ed Angel
>
> Founding Director, Art, Research, Technology and Science Laboratory (ARTS
> Lab)
> Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of New Mexico
>
> 1017 Sierra Pinon
> Santa Fe, NM 87501
> 505-984-0136 (home)   edward.an...@gmail.com
> 505-453-4944 (cell)  http://www.cs.unm.edu/~angel
>
> On Apr 18, 2023, at 4:56 PM, Gillian Densmore 
> wrote:
>
> Nick. I need to warn you. Talking to these spammers, at your stage of
> life. is very dangerous. They'll abuse how elderlies did like you did and
> try to get some good from the call. Now that they know it's a live human
> they won't stop. If the number comes back dead, sooner than latter its
> taken out of their database. They want to catch old people when their
> Bullshit and F you filters are off.
> Best thing to do is not to answer especially when you're talking to
> someone with a sharp knife   scalpel and a massive dose of pain killers!
> Scammers make * ton of money daily by wearing people down! They are at
> best sociopaths.
> 0-wear someone down
> 1-beg for money
> 2-for some surreal reason use teamviewer a remote controll app for windows.
> 3-more surreally pressure the weakened persson: ie YOU! into using a lot,
> like lots and lots of giftcards the ahole redeams in an account. often
> india, or china.
> 4-get you to use zelle to wire that money over
> 5???
> 6: you are so screwed and out of literally thousands of dollers
>
> so don't answer when the phone says spam/scam incoming. My friends and
> family leave a message, and or text if I didn't answer for whatever reason.
> Android has built in scam blocking. iOS does as well. Personally I also
> have nomorobo.
>
> These pitty party scammers are also in faceplant facebook groups! I
> kid you not, I'm in a blender for the masochist for people to do art
> in. After being frustrated how few of the pictures or models are from the
> poster. You get guys like someone who in the best engrish since 70s wireful
> and 80s anime said
> "I laptop need for blender, someone send me one it is new.,"  Now get
> this: Kid is in nigeria, claims to have parents that are royalty but poor
> me. they don't talk to me. and wants a new gizmo to make pretty pictures
> from blender.
> His profile was reported to facebook, and he was kicked from that group.
> Scarily enough their are tons, of people like that.
>
> On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 2:30 PM Steve Smith  wrote:
>
>> Nick -
>>
>>
>> >
>> > I  chatted up one of the callers.  I suggested that at a time of full
>> > employment, perhaps a bright guy like him might get a better job.  He
>> > replied that he was being paid quite well for his efforts!  Apparently
>> > the number of any fool who answers their phone is worth $7
>> Sounds like he got is money's worth on that call!
>> > .
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Re: [FRIAM] Call blockers

[Angel Edward]

I tried Nick’s approach a while ago (before full employment) and the person on 
the other end starting crying. Made me feel terrible.

Another time, I cursed at one who was telling me a series of lies. He responded 
with an admirable string of curses that I was unable to match.

Ed
__

Ed Angel

Founding Director, Art, Research, Technology and Science Laboratory (ARTS Lab)
Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of New Mexico

1017 Sierra Pinon
Santa Fe, NM 87501
505-984-0136 (home) edward.an...@gmail.com
505-453-4944 (cell) http://www.cs.unm.edu/~angel

> On Apr 18, 2023, at 4:56 PM, Gillian Densmore  wrote:
> 
> Nick. I need to warn you. Talking to these spammers, at your stage of life. 
> is very dangerous. They'll abuse how elderlies did like you did and try to 
> get some good from the call. Now that they know it's a live human they won't 
> stop. If the number comes back dead, sooner than latter its taken out of 
> their database. They want to catch old people when their Bullshit and F you 
> filters are off.
> Best thing to do is not to answer especially when you're talking to someone 
> with a sharp knife   scalpel and a massive dose of pain killers! Scammers 
> make * ton of money daily by wearing people down! They are at best 
> sociopaths.
> 0-wear someone down
> 1-beg for money 
> 2-for some surreal reason use teamviewer a remote controll app for windows.
> 3-more surreally pressure the weakened persson: ie YOU! into using a lot, 
> like lots and lots of giftcards the ahole redeams in an account. often india, 
> or china.
> 4-get you to use zelle to wire that money over
> 5???
> 6: you are so screwed and out of literally thousands of dollers
> 
> so don't answer when the phone says spam/scam incoming. My friends and family 
> leave a message, and or text if I didn't answer for whatever reason. 
> Android has built in scam blocking. iOS does as well. Personally I also have 
> nomorobo.
> 
> These pitty party scammers are also in faceplant facebook groups! I kid 
> you not, I'm in a blender for the masochist for people to do art in. 
> After being frustrated how few of the pictures or models are from the poster. 
> You get guys like someone who in the best engrish since 70s wireful and 80s 
> anime said 
> "I laptop need for blender, someone send me one it is new.,"  Now get this: 
> Kid is in nigeria, claims to have parents that are royalty but poor me. they 
> don't talk to me. and wants a new gizmo to make pretty pictures from blender.
> His profile was reported to facebook, and he was kicked from that group.  
> Scarily enough their are tons, of people like that. 
> 
> On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 2:30 PM Steve Smith  > wrote:
> Nick -
> 
> 
> >
> > I  chatted up one of the callers.  I suggested that at a time of full 
> > employment, perhaps a bright guy like him might get a better job.  He 
> > replied that he was being paid quite well for his efforts!  Apparently 
> > the number of any fool who answers their phone is worth $7
> Sounds like he got is money's worth on that call!
> > .
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Re: [FRIAM] Call blockers

[Gillian Densmore]

Nick. I need to warn you. Talking to these spammers, at your stage of life.
is very dangerous. They'll abuse how elderlies did like you did and try to
get some good from the call. Now that they know it's a live human they
won't stop. If the number comes back dead, sooner than latter its taken out
of their database. They want to catch old people when their Bullshit and F
you filters are off.
Best thing to do is not to answer especially when you're talking to someone
with a sharp knife   scalpel and a massive dose of pain killers! Scammers
make * ton of money daily by wearing people down! They are at best
sociopaths.
0-wear someone down
1-beg for money
2-for some surreal reason use teamviewer a remote controll app for windows.
3-more surreally pressure the weakened persson: ie YOU! into using a lot,
like lots and lots of giftcards the ahole redeams in an account. often
india, or china.
4-get you to use zelle to wire that money over
5???
6: you are so screwed and out of literally thousands of dollers

so don't answer when the phone says spam/scam incoming. My friends and
family leave a message, and or text if I didn't answer for whatever reason.
Android has built in scam blocking. iOS does as well. Personally I also
have nomorobo.

These pitty party scammers are also in faceplant facebook groups! I kid
you not, I'm in a blender for the masochist for people to do art in.
After being frustrated how few of the pictures or models are from the
poster. You get guys like someone who in the best engrish since 70s wireful
and 80s anime said
"I laptop need for blender, someone send me one it is new.,"  Now get this:
Kid is in nigeria, claims to have parents that are royalty but poor me.
they don't talk to me. and wants a new gizmo to make pretty pictures from
blender.
His profile was reported to facebook, and he was kicked from that group.
Scarily enough their are tons, of people like that.

On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 2:30 PM Steve Smith  wrote:

> Nick -
>
>
> >
> > I  chatted up one of the callers.  I suggested that at a time of full
> > employment, perhaps a bright guy like him might get a better job.  He
> > replied that he was being paid quite well for his efforts!  Apparently
> > the number of any fool who answers their phone is worth $7
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> > .
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Re: [FRIAM] Call blockers

[Steve Smith]

Nick -




I  chatted up one of the callers.  I suggested that at a time of full 
employment, perhaps a bright guy like him might get a better job.  He 
replied that he was being paid quite well for his efforts!  Apparently 
the number of any fool who answers their phone is worth $7

Sounds like he got is money's worth on that call!

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Re: [FRIAM] Call blockers

[Frank Wimberly]

My Google phone warns me of suspected spam calls.  When it does so I have
the choice of "Screening" the call, blocking it, or answering it.  If I
select "Screen" the caller hears

"Hi.  The person you are calling is using a Google screening service.
Please say your name and the reason you are calling.  The person will get a
recording and transcript of what you say."

Or words to that effect.  Almost nobody leaves a message.

---
Frank C. Wimberly
140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
Santa Fe, NM 87505

505 670-9918
Santa Fe, NM

On Tue, Apr 18, 2023, 12:47 PM Nicholas Thompson 
wrote:

> Phellow Phriammers,
>
> After having my phone completely tied up by robocalls during some medical
> troubles, I put out cold hard cash for the CPR Call Blocker recommended by
> my carrier.  I have now blocked 70 numbers, and new ones come in daily,
> although  the rate has substantially decreased.  I have to say, pressing
> that big red block button is very satisfying.  It also has a mass-blocking
> function for voip-rogue calls, name withheld calls, private caller
> calls,and any area code you take a dislike to.
>  Still I have questions.
>
> 1.  Has anybody else tried this device?
> 2.  Do you fully understand the navigation functions
> 3.  Is it working for you?
> 4.   Do you have any wisdom to share?
>
> I  chatted up one of the callers.  I suggested that at a time of full
> employment, perhaps a bright guy like him might get a better job.  He
> replied that he was being paid quite well for his efforts!  Apparently the
> number of any fool who answers their phone is worth $7.
>
> Nick
>
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[FRIAM] Call blockers

[Nicholas Thompson]

Phellow Phriammers,

After having my phone completely tied up by robocalls during some medical
troubles, I put out cold hard cash for the CPR Call Blocker recommended by
my carrier.  I have now blocked 70 numbers, and new ones come in daily,
although  the rate has substantially decreased.  I have to say, pressing
that big red block button is very satisfying.  It also has a mass-blocking
function for voip-rogue calls, name withheld calls, private caller
calls,and any area code you take a dislike to.
 Still I have questions.

1.  Has anybody else tried this device?
2.  Do you fully understand the navigation functions
3.  Is it working for you?
4.   Do you have any wisdom to share?

I  chatted up one of the callers.  I suggested that at a time of full
employment, perhaps a bright guy like him might get a better job.  He
replied that he was being paid quite well for his efforts!  Apparently the
number of any fool who answers their phone is worth $7.

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Re: [FRIAM] Call blockers

[Gillian Densmore]

lol  thats sounds glorius nick! hope it works out.

On Fri, Nov 12, 2021 at 7:49 PM  wrote:

> Thanks, Gil, and others for assistance and commiseration.
>
>
>
> In the end, the most effective method may be to manage my own annoyance.
>
>
>
> The thing that I loved about the Call Blocker (69$) was the big red
> button.  I might have gotten 69$ of pleasure out punching that button.
>
>
>
> n
>
>
>
> Nick Thompson
>
> thompnicks...@gmail.com
>
> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/
>
>
>
> *From:* Friam  *On Behalf Of *Gillian Densmore
> *Sent:* Friday, November 12, 2021 5:02 PM
> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
> friam@redfish.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Call blockers
>
>
>
> Nick. Know that you not alone on robodialers. A youtuber from canada
> called [different from Linus the Linux guy maker]. This linus runs a
> company called LKMG it basically does reviewes  and industry side back end
> work.. He has a 20 minut long rant about the problem. What set him off was
> how he owns something call team viewer, and is fine with the version he
> has. However their PR, Beta, sales marketing, everyone people  for  several
> months called first at 10 [first not home, then was ish but  busy with
> setting his companies computers up for remote work.  First it was 10, then
> 9, then eventually 4-5am. So he called them and read them riot act. and
> eventually tolled them on twitter do this again and he'll see them in
> court.
>
> Today I had 10 calls in a row, about your car insurance, at 7am. I was
> asleep then!
>
> Reported the number to Google as spam, it's whack-a-mole.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 2:18 PM Gillian Densmore 
> wrote:
>
> Nick Fwiw. Me being, me. I for a bit I used this clip to stop
> robodiallers. because  it seemed amusing and appropriate:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyenRCJ_4Ww
>
> I guess it worked for about 12 weeks didn't get a single spam call.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 2:12 PM Gillian Densmore 
> wrote:
>
> Sounds nobel prize worthy!
>
> h  sounds of "fast"  internet in the 80s:
>
> nee-nee-nee-neeh-k-hisss-static- static- static- static- pop his
> screech  pop.
>
> My "fix" for robocalls is to let people I know msg me, i tend to screen
> calls because of them-it works for all but 1 person. lol she calls it the
> most zoomer thing, and please call, because she spends her life on zoom atm.
>
>
>
> lol  now, steve, how do you get calls when Tmobile or Verizon is them?
> or worse your cellphones battery is out? have a old school back up? or no?
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 10:49 AM Steve Smith  wrote:
>
> Spam/Robo calls have driven me (long ago) to virtually never having my
> ringer on or answering my phone when it does ring unless the caller is in
> my contact list AND I know who it is.   I can hardly remember how I coped
> with my landline in this regard which I let go nearly 20 years ago.
>
> FWIW I had a co-worker/friend who left LANL about 1984 to go work for a
> budding RoboCall company...  She was a very clever/capable woman with a lot
> of humility and wit, but in spite of her self-deprecating description of
> the job/work, she took it anyway.   I suspect it may have been a stepping
> stone for her to solve the 2-body problem with her husband who perhaps was
> about to accept a job in a particular geographic locale where this may have
> been located.  Such a job would be the obvious/ideal telework job, but it
> *was* 1984 (Orwell references aside) and the state of the art seemed to be
> luggable thermal-print terminals with 1200 baud modems, so maybe not.   I
> can't even remember her last name, or I'd go look her up and grill her on
> how all that turned out for her!
>
> On 11/11/21 10:11 AM, Gillian Densmore wrote:
>
> TELL ME ABOUT IT
>
> Edd Angel uses nomo robo. because I mostly use a cellphone as my number
> would get at least that many multiple times a day, even spam texts! that
> cost real money. It got so fucking bad I joke that I have PTSD from them.
> I'm trying
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.youmail.android.vvm for
> my cellphone with ok results. Just ok. It's free.
>
> Try something that's free. Or at least has a free trial before dropping 70
> bucks to block numbnut spamers and collection callers and that free cruise.
> Or some IRS scam from the same 20 people in india.
>
> I don't know how good century links thing is.
>
>
>
> I "love" when they call at 6am. Almost funny because it's probly the same
> parastic leaches. The even "better" part is that it's not legal. Tmobiles
>

Re: [FRIAM] Call blockers

[thompnickson2]

Thanks, Gil, and others for assistance and commiseration.  

 

In the end, the most effective method may be to manage my own annoyance.  

 

The thing that I loved about the Call Blocker (69$) was the big red button.  I 
might have gotten 69$ of pleasure out punching that button.

 

n

 

Nick Thompson

 <mailto:thompnicks...@gmail.com> thompnicks...@gmail.com

 <https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/> 
https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/

 

From: Friam  On Behalf Of Gillian Densmore
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 5:02 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group 
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Call blockers

 

Nick. Know that you not alone on robodialers. A youtuber from canada called 
[different from Linus the Linux guy maker]. This linus runs a company called 
LKMG it basically does reviewes  and industry side back end work.. He has a 20 
minut long rant about the problem. What set him off was how he owns something 
call team viewer, and is fine with the version he has. However their PR, Beta, 
sales marketing, everyone people  for  several months called first at 10 [first 
not home, then was ish but  busy with setting his companies computers up for 
remote work.  First it was 10, then 9, then eventually 4-5am. So he called them 
and read them riot act. and eventually tolled them on twitter do this again and 
he'll see them in court. 

Today I had 10 calls in a row, about your car insurance, at 7am. I was asleep 
then! 

Reported the number to Google as spam, it's whack-a-mole.

 

On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 2:18 PM Gillian Densmore mailto:gil.densm...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Nick Fwiw. Me being, me. I for a bit I used this clip to stop robodiallers. 
because  it seemed amusing and appropriate: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyenRCJ_4Ww

I guess it worked for about 12 weeks didn't get a single spam call.

 

On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 2:12 PM Gillian Densmore mailto:gil.densm...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Sounds nobel prize worthy!  

h  sounds of "fast"  internet in the 80s:

nee-nee-nee-neeh-k-hisss-static- static- static- static- pop his screech  
pop. 

My "fix" for robocalls is to let people I know msg me, i tend to screen calls 
because of them-it works for all but 1 person. lol she calls it the most zoomer 
thing, and please call, because she spends her life on zoom atm.

 

lol  now, steve, how do you get calls when Tmobile or Verizon is them? or 
worse your cellphones battery is out? have a old school back up? or no?

 

On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 10:49 AM Steve Smith mailto:sasm...@swcp.com> > wrote:

Spam/Robo calls have driven me (long ago) to virtually never having my ringer 
on or answering my phone when it does ring unless the caller is in my contact 
list AND I know who it is.   I can hardly remember how I coped with my landline 
in this regard which I let go nearly 20 years ago.

FWIW I had a co-worker/friend who left LANL about 1984 to go work for a budding 
RoboCall company...  She was a very clever/capable woman with a lot of humility 
and wit, but in spite of her self-deprecating description of the job/work, she 
took it anyway.   I suspect it may have been a stepping stone for her to solve 
the 2-body problem with her husband who perhaps was about to accept a job in a 
particular geographic locale where this may have been located.  Such a job 
would be the obvious/ideal telework job, but it *was* 1984 (Orwell references 
aside) and the state of the art seemed to be luggable thermal-print terminals 
with 1200 baud modems, so maybe not.   I can't even remember her last name, or 
I'd go look her up and grill her on how all that turned out for her!

On 11/11/21 10:11 AM, Gillian Densmore wrote:

TELL ME ABOUT IT

Edd Angel uses nomo robo. because I mostly use a cellphone as my number would 
get at least that many multiple times a day, even spam texts! that cost real 
money. It got so fucking bad I joke that I have PTSD from them. I'm trying 
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.youmail.android.vvm for my 
cellphone with ok results. Just ok. It's free. 

Try something that's free. Or at least has a free trial before dropping 70 
bucks to block numbnut spamers and collection callers and that free cruise. Or 
some IRS scam from the same 20 people in india.

I don't know how good century links thing is. 

 

I "love" when they call at 6am. Almost funny because it's probly the same 
parastic leaches. The even "better" part is that it's not legal. Tmobiles built 
phone robo calling thing is almost useless I can tell you that much. It's so 
comically bad I know when I've reinstalled or updated android because it feels 
like seconds before I find out all the free cruise after selling a soul or 2. 
And unlikely to actually be free to. It's like browsing the web without an 
addblocker. My favorite is no matter how many creative ways I find to curse and 
motherfuck them and tell them to take me off th

Re: [FRIAM] Call blockers

[Gillian Densmore]

Nick. Know that you not alone on robodialers. A youtuber from canada called
[different from Linus the Linux guy maker]. This linus runs a company
called LKMG it basically does reviewes  and industry side back end work..
He has a 20 minut long rant about the problem. What set him off was how he
owns something call team viewer, and is fine with the version he has.
However their PR, Beta, sales marketing, everyone people  for  several
months called first at 10 [first not home, then was ish but  busy with
setting his companies computers up for remote work.  First it was 10, then
9, then eventually 4-5am. So he called them and read them riot act. and
eventually tolled them on twitter do this again and he'll see them in
court.
Today I had 10 calls in a row, about your car insurance, at 7am. I was
asleep then!
Reported the number to Google as spam, it's whack-a-mole.

On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 2:18 PM Gillian Densmore 
wrote:

> Nick Fwiw. Me being, me. I for a bit I used this clip to stop
> robodiallers. because  it seemed amusing and appropriate:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyenRCJ_4Ww
> I guess it worked for about 12 weeks didn't get a single spam call.
>
> On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 2:12 PM Gillian Densmore 
> wrote:
>
>> Sounds nobel prize worthy!
>> h  sounds of "fast"  internet in the 80s:
>> nee-nee-nee-neeh-k-hisss-static- static- static- static- pop his
>> screech  pop.
>> My "fix" for robocalls is to let people I know msg me, i tend to screen
>> calls because of them-it works for all but 1 person. lol she calls it the
>> most zoomer thing, and please call, because she spends her life on zoom atm.
>>
>> lol  now, steve, how do you get calls when Tmobile or Verizon is them?
>> or worse your cellphones battery is out? have a old school back up? or no?
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 10:49 AM Steve Smith  wrote:
>>
>>> Spam/Robo calls have driven me (long ago) to virtually never having my
>>> ringer on or answering my phone when it does ring unless the caller is in
>>> my contact list AND I know who it is.   I can hardly remember how I coped
>>> with my landline in this regard which I let go nearly 20 years ago.
>>>
>>> FWIW I had a co-worker/friend who left LANL about 1984 to go work for a
>>> budding RoboCall company...  She was a very clever/capable woman with a lot
>>> of humility and wit, but in spite of her self-deprecating description of
>>> the job/work, she took it anyway.   I suspect it may have been a stepping
>>> stone for her to solve the 2-body problem with her husband who perhaps was
>>> about to accept a job in a particular geographic locale where this may have
>>> been located.  Such a job would be the obvious/ideal telework job, but it
>>> *was* 1984 (Orwell references aside) and the state of the art seemed to be
>>> luggable thermal-print terminals with 1200 baud modems, so maybe not.   I
>>> can't even remember her last name, or I'd go look her up and grill her on
>>> how all that turned out for her!
>>> On 11/11/21 10:11 AM, Gillian Densmore wrote:
>>>
>>> TELL ME ABOUT IT
>>> Edd Angel uses nomo robo. because I mostly use a cellphone as my number
>>> would get at least that many multiple times a day, even spam texts! that
>>> cost real money. It got so fucking bad I joke that I have PTSD from them.
>>> I'm trying
>>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.youmail.android.vvm
>>> for my cellphone with ok results. Just ok. It's free.
>>> Try something that's free. Or at least has a free trial before dropping
>>> 70 bucks to block numbnut spamers and collection callers and that free
>>> cruise. Or some IRS scam from the same 20 people in india.
>>> I don't know how good century links thing is.
>>>
>>> I "love" when they call at 6am. Almost funny because it's probly the
>>> same parastic leaches. The even "better" part is that it's not legal.
>>> Tmobiles built phone robo calling thing is almost useless I can tell you
>>> that much. It's so comically bad I know when I've reinstalled or updated
>>> android because it feels like seconds before I find out all the free cruise
>>> after selling a soul or 2. And unlikely to actually be free to. It's like
>>> browsing the web without an addblocker. My favorite is no matter how many
>>> creative ways I find to curse and motherfuck them and tell them to take me
>>> off the  spam list? I could be shouting at a wall for how well it works. Ie
>>> it does about jack.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 9:37 AM  wrote:
>>>
 Ok.  I’m pissed.  4 spam calls before 9 this morning.  Century Link is
 offering me a call blocker for 70 bucks,
  which seems to be a bit
 CHEAPER than Amazon for the same object.  Do these things work, or is
 buying one just going to make me angrier when the calls keep coming anyway?

 N


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Re: [FRIAM] Call blockers

[Gillian Densmore]

Nick Fwiw. Me being, me. I for a bit I used this clip to stop robodiallers.
because  it seemed amusing and appropriate:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyenRCJ_4Ww
I guess it worked for about 12 weeks didn't get a single spam call.

On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 2:12 PM Gillian Densmore 
wrote:

> Sounds nobel prize worthy!
> h  sounds of "fast"  internet in the 80s:
> nee-nee-nee-neeh-k-hisss-static- static- static- static- pop his
> screech  pop.
> My "fix" for robocalls is to let people I know msg me, i tend to screen
> calls because of them-it works for all but 1 person. lol she calls it the
> most zoomer thing, and please call, because she spends her life on zoom atm.
>
> lol  now, steve, how do you get calls when Tmobile or Verizon is them?
> or worse your cellphones battery is out? have a old school back up? or no?
>
> On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 10:49 AM Steve Smith  wrote:
>
>> Spam/Robo calls have driven me (long ago) to virtually never having my
>> ringer on or answering my phone when it does ring unless the caller is in
>> my contact list AND I know who it is.   I can hardly remember how I coped
>> with my landline in this regard which I let go nearly 20 years ago.
>>
>> FWIW I had a co-worker/friend who left LANL about 1984 to go work for a
>> budding RoboCall company...  She was a very clever/capable woman with a lot
>> of humility and wit, but in spite of her self-deprecating description of
>> the job/work, she took it anyway.   I suspect it may have been a stepping
>> stone for her to solve the 2-body problem with her husband who perhaps was
>> about to accept a job in a particular geographic locale where this may have
>> been located.  Such a job would be the obvious/ideal telework job, but it
>> *was* 1984 (Orwell references aside) and the state of the art seemed to be
>> luggable thermal-print terminals with 1200 baud modems, so maybe not.   I
>> can't even remember her last name, or I'd go look her up and grill her on
>> how all that turned out for her!
>> On 11/11/21 10:11 AM, Gillian Densmore wrote:
>>
>> TELL ME ABOUT IT
>> Edd Angel uses nomo robo. because I mostly use a cellphone as my number
>> would get at least that many multiple times a day, even spam texts! that
>> cost real money. It got so fucking bad I joke that I have PTSD from them.
>> I'm trying
>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.youmail.android.vvm
>> for my cellphone with ok results. Just ok. It's free.
>> Try something that's free. Or at least has a free trial before dropping
>> 70 bucks to block numbnut spamers and collection callers and that free
>> cruise. Or some IRS scam from the same 20 people in india.
>> I don't know how good century links thing is.
>>
>> I "love" when they call at 6am. Almost funny because it's probly the same
>> parastic leaches. The even "better" part is that it's not legal. Tmobiles
>> built phone robo calling thing is almost useless I can tell you that much.
>> It's so comically bad I know when I've reinstalled or updated android
>> because it feels like seconds before I find out all the free cruise after
>> selling a soul or 2. And unlikely to actually be free to. It's like
>> browsing the web without an addblocker. My favorite is no matter how many
>> creative ways I find to curse and motherfuck them and tell them to take me
>> off the  spam list? I could be shouting at a wall for how well it works. Ie
>> it does about jack.
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 9:37 AM  wrote:
>>
>>> Ok.  I’m pissed.  4 spam calls before 9 this morning.  Century Link is
>>> offering me a call blocker for 70 bucks,
>>>  which seems to be a bit
>>> CHEAPER than Amazon for the same object.  Do these things work, or is
>>> buying one just going to make me angrier when the calls keep coming anyway?
>>>
>>> N
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Re: [FRIAM] Call blockers

[Gillian Densmore]

Sounds nobel prize worthy!
h  sounds of "fast"  internet in the 80s:
nee-nee-nee-neeh-k-hisss-static- static- static- static- pop his
screech  pop.
My "fix" for robocalls is to let people I know msg me, i tend to screen
calls because of them-it works for all but 1 person. lol she calls it the
most zoomer thing, and please call, because she spends her life on zoom atm.

lol  now, steve, how do you get calls when Tmobile or Verizon is them? or
worse your cellphones battery is out? have a old school back up? or no?

On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 10:49 AM Steve Smith  wrote:

> Spam/Robo calls have driven me (long ago) to virtually never having my
> ringer on or answering my phone when it does ring unless the caller is in
> my contact list AND I know who it is.   I can hardly remember how I coped
> with my landline in this regard which I let go nearly 20 years ago.
>
> FWIW I had a co-worker/friend who left LANL about 1984 to go work for a
> budding RoboCall company...  She was a very clever/capable woman with a lot
> of humility and wit, but in spite of her self-deprecating description of
> the job/work, she took it anyway.   I suspect it may have been a stepping
> stone for her to solve the 2-body problem with her husband who perhaps was
> about to accept a job in a particular geographic locale where this may have
> been located.  Such a job would be the obvious/ideal telework job, but it
> *was* 1984 (Orwell references aside) and the state of the art seemed to be
> luggable thermal-print terminals with 1200 baud modems, so maybe not.   I
> can't even remember her last name, or I'd go look her up and grill her on
> how all that turned out for her!
> On 11/11/21 10:11 AM, Gillian Densmore wrote:
>
> TELL ME ABOUT IT
> Edd Angel uses nomo robo. because I mostly use a cellphone as my number
> would get at least that many multiple times a day, even spam texts! that
> cost real money. It got so fucking bad I joke that I have PTSD from them.
> I'm trying
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.youmail.android.vvm for
> my cellphone with ok results. Just ok. It's free.
> Try something that's free. Or at least has a free trial before dropping 70
> bucks to block numbnut spamers and collection callers and that free cruise.
> Or some IRS scam from the same 20 people in india.
> I don't know how good century links thing is.
>
> I "love" when they call at 6am. Almost funny because it's probly the same
> parastic leaches. The even "better" part is that it's not legal. Tmobiles
> built phone robo calling thing is almost useless I can tell you that much.
> It's so comically bad I know when I've reinstalled or updated android
> because it feels like seconds before I find out all the free cruise after
> selling a soul or 2. And unlikely to actually be free to. It's like
> browsing the web without an addblocker. My favorite is no matter how many
> creative ways I find to curse and motherfuck them and tell them to take me
> off the  spam list? I could be shouting at a wall for how well it works. Ie
> it does about jack.
>
> On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 9:37 AM  wrote:
>
>> Ok.  I’m pissed.  4 spam calls before 9 this morning.  Century Link is
>> offering me a call blocker for 70 bucks,
>>  which seems to be a bit
>> CHEAPER than Amazon for the same object.  Do these things work, or is
>> buying one just going to make me angrier when the calls keep coming anyway?
>>
>> N
>>
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Re: [FRIAM] Call blockers

[Steve Smith]

Spam/Robo calls have driven me (long ago) to virtually never having my 
ringer on or answering my phone when it does ring unless the caller is 
in my contact list AND I know who it is.   I can hardly remember how I 
coped with my landline in this regard which I let go nearly 20 years ago.


FWIW I had a co-worker/friend who left LANL about 1984 to go work for a 
budding RoboCall company...  She was a very clever/capable woman with a 
lot of humility and wit, but in spite of her self-deprecating 
description of the job/work, she took it anyway.   I suspect it may have 
been a stepping stone for her to solve the 2-body problem with her 
husband who perhaps was about to accept a job in a particular geographic 
locale where this may have been located.  Such a job would be the 
obvious/ideal telework job, but it *was* 1984 (Orwell references aside) 
and the state of the art seemed to be luggable thermal-print terminals 
with 1200 baud modems, so maybe not.   I can't even remember her last 
name, or I'd go look her up and grill her on how all that turned out for 
her!


On 11/11/21 10:11 AM, Gillian Densmore wrote:

TELL ME ABOUT IT
Edd Angel uses nomo robo. because I mostly use a cellphone as my 
number would get at least that many multiple times a day, even spam 
texts! that cost real money. It got so fucking bad I joke that I have 
PTSD from them. I'm trying 
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.youmail.android.vvm 
for my cellphone with ok results. Just ok. It's free.
Try something that's free. Or at least has a free trial before 
dropping 70 bucks to block numbnut spamers and collection callers and 
that free cruise. Or some IRS scam from the same 20 people in india.

I don't know how good century links thing is.

I "love" when they call at 6am. Almost funny because it's probly the 
same parastic leaches. The even "better" part is that it's not legal. 
Tmobiles built phone robo calling thing is almost useless I can tell 
you that much. It's so comically bad I know when I've reinstalled or 
updated android because it feels like seconds before I find out all 
the free cruise after selling a soul or 2. And unlikely to actually be 
free to. It's like browsing the web without an addblocker. My favorite 
is no matter how many creative ways I find to curse and motherfuck 
them and tell them to take me off the  spam list? I could be shouting 
at a wall for how well it works. Ie it does about jack.


On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 9:37 AM  wrote:

Ok.  I’m pissed.  4 spam calls before 9 this morning. Century Link
is offering me a call blocker for 70 bucks,
 which seems to be a bit
CHEAPER than Amazon for the same object.  Do these things work, or
is buying one just going to make me angrier when the calls keep
coming anyway?

N


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Re: [FRIAM] Call blockers

[Frank Wimberly]

I use Google's call screening app.  It asks callers to State their name and
reason for calling.  If they don't respond to that appropriately I block
their number. The app is free.  I forward my home phone to my cell phone so
that the same thing happens to people who call my home phone (landline).

---
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140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
Santa Fe, NM 87505

505 670-9918
Santa Fe, NM

On Thu, Nov 11, 2021, 9:37 AM  wrote:

> Ok.  I’m pissed.  4 spam calls before 9 this morning.  Century Link is
> offering me a call blocker for 70 bucks,
>  which seems to be a bit
> CHEAPER than Amazon for the same object.  Do these things work, or is
> buying one just going to make me angrier when the calls keep coming anyway?
>
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Re: [FRIAM] Call blockers

[Alexander Rasmus]

Nick,

Are you looking at the V5000 call blocker? This will be of a medium amount
of use, as it looks like you can block calls with no caller id info. The
phone comes with a blacklist of 5000 numbers that you can add more numbers
too, but you'll have to do this after/while they're calling, so your phone
will still ring. This might help a little with scammers, but is unlikely to
do much for the political fundraising spam that makes up much of the spam I
get.

If you're on iphone it's pretty easy to set it up to only ring when a
contact calls (it'll still ring and go to voicemail, just in silent mode),
android looks like its a little more tedious:
https://mashtips.com/block-unknown-numbers-landline-iphone-android/

Best,
Alex

On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 9:37 AM  wrote:

> Ok.  I’m pissed.  4 spam calls before 9 this morning.  Century Link is
> offering me a call blocker for 70 bucks,
>  which seems to be a bit
> CHEAPER than Amazon for the same object.  Do these things work, or is
> buying one just going to make me angrier when the calls keep coming anyway?
>
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Re: [FRIAM] Call blockers

[Edward Angel]

We get nomobobo for free from Comcast on our landline. It works real well with 
known numbers in their database and with numbers we add. We still get a lot of 
calls that use false local numbers that nomorobo can’t really block. We don’t 
add these numbers to the nomorobo database since they are generated randomly by 
the scammers and are probably not used more than once.

Ed
___

Ed Angel

Founding Director, Art, Research, Technology and Science Laboratory (ARTS Lab)
Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of New Mexico

1017 Sierra Pinon
Santa Fe, NM 87501
505-984-0136 (home) an...@cs.unm.edu 

505-453-4944 (cell) http://www.cs.unm.edu/~angel 


> On Nov 11, 2021, at 10:11 AM, Gillian Densmore  wrote:
> 
> TELL ME ABOUT IT
> Edd Angel uses nomo robo. because I mostly use a cellphone as my number would 
> get at least that many multiple times a day, even spam texts! that cost real 
> money. It got so fucking bad I joke that I have PTSD from them. I'm trying 
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.youmail.android.vvm 
>  for 
> my cellphone with ok results. Just ok. It's free. 
> Try something that's free. Or at least has a free trial before dropping 70 
> bucks to block numbnut spamers and collection callers and that free cruise. 
> Or some IRS scam from the same 20 people in india.
> I don't know how good century links thing is. 
> 
> I "love" when they call at 6am. Almost funny because it's probly the same 
> parastic leaches. The even "better" part is that it's not legal. Tmobiles 
> built phone robo calling thing is almost useless I can tell you that much. 
> It's so comically bad I know when I've reinstalled or updated android because 
> it feels like seconds before I find out all the free cruise after selling a 
> soul or 2. And unlikely to actually be free to. It's like browsing the web 
> without an addblocker. My favorite is no matter how many creative ways I find 
> to curse and motherfuck them and tell them to take me off the  spam list? I 
> could be shouting at a wall for how well it works. Ie it does about jack. 
> 
> On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 9:37 AM  > wrote:
> Ok.  I’m pissed.  4 spam calls before 9 this morning.  Century Link is 
> offering me a call blocker for 70 bucks, 
>  which seems to be a bit CHEAPER 
> than Amazon for the same object.  Do these things work, or is buying one just 
> going to make me angrier when the calls keep coming anyway?
> 
> N
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Re: [FRIAM] Call blockers

[Gillian Densmore]

TELL ME ABOUT IT
Edd Angel uses nomo robo. because I mostly use a cellphone as my number
would get at least that many multiple times a day, even spam texts! that
cost real money. It got so fucking bad I joke that I have PTSD from them.
I'm trying
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.youmail.android.vvm for
my cellphone with ok results. Just ok. It's free.
Try something that's free. Or at least has a free trial before dropping 70
bucks to block numbnut spamers and collection callers and that free cruise.
Or some IRS scam from the same 20 people in india.
I don't know how good century links thing is.

I "love" when they call at 6am. Almost funny because it's probly the same
parastic leaches. The even "better" part is that it's not legal. Tmobiles
built phone robo calling thing is almost useless I can tell you that much.
It's so comically bad I know when I've reinstalled or updated android
because it feels like seconds before I find out all the free cruise after
selling a soul or 2. And unlikely to actually be free to. It's like
browsing the web without an addblocker. My favorite is no matter how many
creative ways I find to curse and motherfuck them and tell them to take me
off the  spam list? I could be shouting at a wall for how well it works. Ie
it does about jack.

On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 9:37 AM  wrote:

> Ok.  I’m pissed.  4 spam calls before 9 this morning.  Century Link is
> offering me a call blocker for 70 bucks,
>  which seems to be a bit
> CHEAPER than Amazon for the same object.  Do these things work, or is
> buying one just going to make me angrier when the calls keep coming anyway?
>
> N
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