[FRIAM] Dirty Power Linked to Cancers in California School in Milham-Morgan Study

2008-06-07 Thread peter

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24957072/

This is re the comments posted recently on power magnetic field health 
causes, there are a few PDFs also on line which seem to make sense


Again I think these are ways that we can model and demonstrate in the 
real world at the center to prove validity and I just cannot wait for 
Steve to sponsor a summer race with the kids in santa fe, for the following


 Redfish's great cell phone popcorn popping completion   the first one 
to pop a full cup of popcorn with their cell phones wins xxx for life 
--- No LANL or Sandia modifications allowed and no cell phones the size 
of a pickup truck.. The banner alone should prove awesome


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Re: [FRIAM] Dirty Power Linked to Cancers in California School in Milham-Morgan Study

2008-06-07 Thread Günther Greindl
Hi,

sounds scary. What I find strange is this: they say at the beginning of 
the paper:

There are many sources of ‘‘dirty power’’ in today’s
electrical equipment. Examples of electrical equipment
designed to operate with interrupted current flow are light
dimmer switches that interrupt the current twice per cycle
(120 times/s), power saving compact fluorescent lights that
interrupt the current at least 20,000 times/s, halogen lamps,
electronic transformers and most electronic equipment
manufactured since the mid-1980s that use switching power
supplies. Dirty power generated by electrical equipment in a
building is distributed throughout the building on the electric
wiring. Dirty power generated outside the building enters the
building on electric wiring and through ground rods and
conductive plumbing, while within buildings, it is usually the
result of interrupted current generated by electrical appliances
and equipment.


I mean, everybody has this stuff at home: why then the cluster at that 
school? Wouldn't that speak against transients being responsible 
(because they exist everywhere)?

(I am no electrical engineer)

Regards,
Günther

Marcus G. Daniels wrote:
 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24957072/

 This is re the comments posted recently on power magnetic field health 
 causes, there are a few PDFs also on line which seem to make sense
 
 Here's the abstract of the paper.  
 
http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/119553477/abstract
 
 The paper itself you'd need to pull from your research library.   I did, 
 and in addition to the stats in the abstract, apparently there were two 
 rooms with ongoing and rapid changes in high frequency (~12 kHz) 
 transients, and both of those cases had teachers that developed cancer.
 
 It seems like a fine thing to do to study the biology of all this.  For 
 example, here's a company that seems to be on to something:
 
 http://www.novocuretrial.com
 
 
 
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Re: [FRIAM] Dirty Power Linked to Cancers in California School in Milham-Morgan Study

2008-06-07 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
Günther Greindl wrote:
 I mean, everybody has this stuff at home: why then the cluster at that 
 school? Wouldn't that speak against transients being responsible 
 (because they exist everywhere)?
   
If it were that common, then a 1/1 would be expected.  Maybe La 
Quinta was just the one.
It did sound like it was particularly powerful transients, though.


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