Re: [FRIAM] Downtown Subscription

2024-05-31 Thread Frank Wimberly 
Reminder.  They can't possibly have finished the construction.

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On Thu, May 30, 2024, 4:48 PM Marcus Daniels  wrote:

> If LLM training has reached a zero loss on a corpus that happens to
> include these, it should be able to do a decent job of mimicking their
> style and content.
>
> I expect many disreputable sources have been processed, along with
> critical review material arguing that.
>
>
>
> *From:* Friam  *On Behalf Of *Prof David West
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 30, 2024 11:59 AM
> *To:* Stephen Guerin ; The Friday Morning
> Applied Complexity Coffee Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] words
>
>
>
> I share at least a hue of Steve's thralldom.
>
>
>
> As Marcus noted, "it depends on the training set." If Howard (as an LLM)
> was trained on the contents of the Embassy of the Free Mind in Amsterdam
> nothing he says would be a surprise. [The Embassy is a library with all
> things Alchemical.] I do not know about DaVinci, but if Howard and Newton
> (considered the last great Alchemist) engaged in a conversation they might
> disagree, but I do think they would "understand" each other. (Talking about
> the flower of life, platonic solids, etc. NOT natal memory.)
>
>
>
> It would be interesting to see what Open AI's training set entails. Does
> it include or exclude the "disreputable" the "pseudo-scientific?" Does in
> include much non-Western philosophy; especially in the areas of
> epistemology and metaphysics?
>
>
>
> There is little need to call bullshit, at least in the modern Western
> world, because sufficient forces already exist to marginalize any
> contrarian, in almost every aspect of life.
>
>
>
> davew
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 30, 2024, at 12:52 PM, Stephen Guerin wrote:
>
> *prompt: * You are Terrance Howard. Make 3 revolutionary claims that will
> enable a general unified theory of Complexity Science.
>
>
>
> *4o:*  As Terrence Howard, here are three revolutionary claims that will
> enable a general unified theory of Complexity Science, with one relating to
> understanding the world as computation:
>
>
>
> 1. **Revolutionary Geometry and Mathematics**:
>
>"I have developed a new geometric framework that redefines the
> fundamental constants and principles of mathematics. By understanding that
> 1 x 1 = 2, we can break free from traditional mathematical constraints and
> uncover deeper truths about the universe's structure. This new geometry,
> based on my studies of Terryology, reveals hidden dimensions and
> interactions that were previously invisible to us, providing a holistic
> view of complex systems and their emergent properties."
>
>
>
> 2. **Unified Field Theory through Vibrational Harmonics**:
>
>"By exploring the vibrational harmonics that govern atomic and
> subatomic interactions, I have formulated a Unified Field Theory that links
> quantum mechanics and general relativity. This theory posits that all
> matter and energy are manifestations of underlying wave patterns, which can
> be tuned and manipulated to create new forms of energy and matter. This
> understanding allows us to predict and control complex behaviors in
> physical, biological, and even social systems, leading to breakthroughs in
> energy production, medical treatments, and societal organization."
>
>
>
> 3. **World as Computation - Universal Compiler**:
>
>"The universe operates as a vast computational substrate, where every
> particle and wave functions as part of a grand computation. I have
> developed a Universal Compiler, capable of interpreting and executing any
> script on this cosmic computational substrate. This compiler translates
> abstract mathematical theories, physical laws, and biological processes
> into executable programs, enabling us to simulate and manipulate reality at
> an unprecedented level. By leveraging this technology, we can solve complex
> problems, optimize systems for efficiency, and unlock new realms of
> scientific and technological innovation."
>
>
>
> These claims, if validated and accepted, would revolutionize Complexity
> Science by providing new tools and perspectives to understand and
> manipulate the intricate web of interactions that define our universe.
>
>
>
> -S
>
>
>
> ps I biased the third one.
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 11:41 AM Stephen Guerin <
> stephen.gue...@simtable.com> wrote:
>
> In this LLM era, where many people, including some on this list, are
> enthralled by random bullshit
>
>
>
> Color me enthralled 
>
>
>
> *prompt: *All energy in the universe is expressed in motion. All motion
> is expressed in waves. All waves are curved. So where do the straight lines
> come from to make the Platonic solids?
>
>
>
> *4o: *The emergence of straight lines in Platonic solids, despite the
> curvilinear nature of waves and motion, can be understood through the
> concept of symmetry and mathematical abstraction. Here are a few points to
> consider:
>
>
>
> 1. **Symmetry and

Re: [FRIAM] Downtown Subscription?

2024-05-29 Thread Nicholas Thompson 
Greetings from the other side of the dry line. my son informs me that there
is a major remodeling going on, which will unify the coffee house with the
bookstore. My guess is that you will be going to DS for a time.

On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 11:15 AM Frank Wimberly  wrote:

> I am in the St John's coffee shop.  This building seems to be abandoned.
> Neither the coffee service nor the  dining room are open.  If people want
> beverages or snacks we should go somewhere else.
>
> I'll head to Downtown Subscription.
>
> Frank
>
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Re: [FRIAM] Downtown Subscription?

2024-05-24 Thread Frank Wimberly 
Much better than I thought.

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On Fri, May 24, 2024, 6:30 PM CS  wrote:

> Orangutans,   proboscis   monkeys, sun bears, crocs, wild cats, lots of
> birds, elephants
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 25, 2024, at 7:36 AM, Frank Wimberly  wrote:
>
> 
> What else is there in Borneo?  Snakes?
>
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>
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>
> On Fri, May 24, 2024, 5:29 PM CS  wrote:
>
>> I’m in Borneo. DS is a little far but there’s a cafe here at the eco
>> lodge.
>>
>> Ed
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 24, 2024, at 11:30 PM, Stephen Guerin 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Thanks, Frank! I'll see you at DS
>>
>> 
>> CEO Founder, Simtable.com
>> stephen.gue...@simtable.com
>>
>> Harvard Visualization Research and Teaching Lab
>> stephengue...@fas.harvard.edu
>>
>> mobile: (505)577-5828
>>
>> On Fri, May 24, 2024, 9:15 AM Frank Wimberly  wrote:
>>
>>> I am in the St John's coffee shop.  This building seems to be
>>> abandoned.  Neither the coffee service nor the  dining room are open.  If
>>> people want beverages or snacks we should go somewhere else.
>>>
>>> I'll head to Downtown Subscription.
>>>
>>> Frank
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Frank C. Wimberly
>>> 140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
>>> 
>>> Santa Fe, NM 87505
>>> 
>>>
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Re: [FRIAM] Downtown Subscription?

2024-05-24 Thread CS 
Orangutans,   proboscis   monkeys, sun bears, crocs, wild cats, lots of birds, elephantsSent from my iPhoneOn May 25, 2024, at 7:36 AM, Frank Wimberly  wrote:What else is there in Borneo?  Snakes?---Frank C. Wimberly140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505505 670-9918Santa Fe, NMOn Fri, May 24, 2024, 5:29 PM CS  wrote:I’m in Borneo. DS is a little far but there’s a cafe here at the eco lodge.EdSent from my iPhoneOn May 24, 2024, at 11:30 PM, Stephen Guerin  wrote:Thanks, Frank! I'll see you at DSCEO Founder, Simtable.comstephen.gue...@simtable.com Harvard Visualization Research and Teaching Labstephengue...@fas.harvard.edumobile: (505)577-5828On Fri, May 24, 2024, 9:15 AM Frank Wimberly  wrote:I am in the St John's coffee shop.  This building seems to be abandoned.  Neither the coffee service nor the  dining room are open.  If people want beverages or snacks we should go somewhere else.I'll head to Downtown Subscription.Frank---Frank C. Wimberly140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505505 670-9918Santa Fe, NM
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Re: [FRIAM] Downtown Subscription?

2024-05-24 Thread Frank Wimberly 
What else is there in Borneo?  Snakes?

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On Fri, May 24, 2024, 5:29 PM CS  wrote:

> I’m in Borneo. DS is a little far but there’s a cafe here at the eco lodge.
>
> Ed
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 24, 2024, at 11:30 PM, Stephen Guerin 
> wrote:
>
> 
> Thanks, Frank! I'll see you at DS
>
> 
> CEO Founder, Simtable.com
> stephen.gue...@simtable.com
>
> Harvard Visualization Research and Teaching Lab
> stephengue...@fas.harvard.edu
>
> mobile: (505)577-5828
>
> On Fri, May 24, 2024, 9:15 AM Frank Wimberly  wrote:
>
>> I am in the St John's coffee shop.  This building seems to be abandoned.
>> Neither the coffee service nor the  dining room are open.  If people want
>> beverages or snacks we should go somewhere else.
>>
>> I'll head to Downtown Subscription.
>>
>> Frank
>>
>> ---
>> Frank C. Wimberly
>> 140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
>> 
>> Santa Fe, NM 87505
>> 
>>
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Re: [FRIAM] Downtown Subscription?

2024-05-24 Thread CS 
I’m in Borneo. DS is a little far but there’s a cafe here at the eco lodge.EdSent from my iPhoneOn May 24, 2024, at 11:30 PM, Stephen Guerin  wrote:Thanks, Frank! I'll see you at DSCEO Founder, Simtable.comstephen.gue...@simtable.com Harvard Visualization Research and Teaching Labstephengue...@fas.harvard.edumobile: (505)577-5828On Fri, May 24, 2024, 9:15 AM Frank Wimberly  wrote:I am in the St John's coffee shop.  This building seems to be abandoned.  Neither the coffee service nor the  dining room are open.  If people want beverages or snacks we should go somewhere else.I'll head to Downtown Subscription.Frank---Frank C. Wimberly140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505505 670-9918Santa Fe, NM
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Re: [FRIAM] Downtown Subscription?

2024-05-24 Thread Stephen Guerin 
Thanks, Frank! I'll see you at DS


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On Fri, May 24, 2024, 9:15 AM Frank Wimberly  wrote:

> I am in the St John's coffee shop.  This building seems to be abandoned.
> Neither the coffee service nor the  dining room are open.  If people want
> beverages or snacks we should go somewhere else.
>
> I'll head to Downtown Subscription.
>
> Frank
>
> ---
> Frank C. Wimberly
> 140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
> 
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> 
>
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[FRIAM] Downtown Subscription?

2024-05-24 Thread Frank Wimberly 
I am in the St John's coffee shop.  This building seems to be abandoned.
Neither the coffee service nor the  dining room are open.  If people want
beverages or snacks we should go somewhere else.

I'll head to Downtown Subscription.

Frank

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[FRIAM] Downtown Subscription

2008-07-24 Thread Owen Densmore 
Just a reminder: we will be kicked out of St John's tomorrow fairly  
early.  Last week we transfered to Downtown Sub.  Unless there's a  
better plan, lets meet there again tomorrow.

-- Owen



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