Re: [FRIAM] Google Bard

2023-05-21 Thread Stephen Guerin
gpt4 prompt: "Design a WordPress site for a birding non profit in Ecuador
that accepts uploads of member photos and maps them by location based on
the exif location. Give the member the option to share location publicly,
with a group, or just for themselves"

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Creating a WordPress site for a birding non-profit in Ecuador that accepts
uploads of member photos and maps with location based on the EXIF data
would require a combination of theme selection, custom development, and
plugin utilization. Here's a step-by-step process of how it could be done:

**1. Choose a Suitable Theme:**

Start with a theme that is suitable for non-profit organizations and has an
emphasis on visual content. It should have galleries, sliders, and maps
built-in or easily integrated. A theme like "Charity Hub," "Neve," or "Eco
Nature" could work well.

**2. Set Up Basic Pages:**

Include basic pages such as Home, About, Membership Information, Photo
Gallery, Bird Species, Contact Us, etc. You could use a page builder like
Elementor or Beaver Builder to design these pages with ease.

**3. Enable User Registration and Profiles:**

Use a plugin like "BuddyPress" to enable user registrations and to create
user profiles. You'll need members to have accounts to upload their photos.

**4. Enable Photo Uploads:**

To accept uploads of member photos, you can use a plugin such as "User
Submitted Posts" or "Frontend Upload." You might need a developer to help
with customization if you want to extract EXIF data automatically.

**5. EXIF Data and Location:**

Plugins like "EXIF Data Viewer" or "WP VR View" can be used to extract EXIF
data from the uploaded images, which typically includes GPS coordinates for
the location where the photo was taken. You could use a service like Google
Maps API to translate these coordinates into an actual location.

**6. Sharing Permissions:**

For the sharing options, you would need some custom development to allow
members to control who sees their location. This would involve adding
options in the upload form to set the visibility to public, private, or
group, and then applying those permissions to the display of the location
data.

**7. Integration of Maps:**

You can use plugins like "Interactive Geo Maps" or "WP Google Maps" to
display interactive maps on the site. Locations of uploaded photos could be
indicated on the map, depending on the permissions set by the user.

**8. Implement a Blog:**

A blog section could be helpful for sharing news, updates, and educational
information. WordPress's native blogging functionality can handle this
easily.

**9. SEO & Analytics:**

Don't forget to incorporate SEO best practices to help your site get found.
A plugin like "Yoast SEO" can be very helpful. Similarly, integrate Google
Analytics for tracking site usage.

**10. Set up a Donation System:**

As a non-profit, you might want to consider setting up a donation system.
Plugins like "GiveWP" are designed specifically for this.

Finally, make sure the website is mobile responsive since many users will
likely be accessing the site from their mobile devices. This should be a
feature of any modern WordPress theme, but always check to make sure.

Please note that while WordPress and its ecosystem of plugins provide a lot
of flexibility and power, you'll need someone with technical expertise to
help with the setup, especially around the custom development for the photo
upload, EXIF data extraction, and permissions control.


On Sun, May 21, 2023, 12:21 PM Gary Schiltz 
wrote:

> Answering my own question, I signed up and was able to ask ChatGPT. It
> gave a better answer from the start.
>
> If you have a WordPress site with no pages or posts, the default
> behavior of WordPress depends on the theme you have installed.
> However, in most cases, the following elements are typically displayed
> when you visit the site:
>
> Header: The header section of your website, which usually includes the
> site title or logo and the main navigation menu.
>
> Footer: The footer section of your website, containing information
> such as copyright notices, links to privacy policies, terms of use,
> and contact information.
>
> Sidebar: If your theme has a sidebar, it may be displayed on the site.
> The sidebar typically contains widgets like search bars, categories,
> recent posts, or custom content, depending on your theme and widget
> settings.
>
> Widgets: Some themes display widgets in areas other than the sidebar,
> such as the footer or header. These can include social media icons,
> subscription forms, or other customizable elements.
>
> Empty Content Area: Since you have no pages or posts, the main content
> area of your site may appear empty or display a default message like
> "No content found" or "This site does not have any content yet."
>
> It's important to note that the appearance of your site can be
> customized by installing and configuring different themes, page
> builders, and plugins. These tools allow you 

Re: [FRIAM] Google Bard

2023-05-21 Thread Gary Schiltz
Answering my own question, I signed up and was able to ask ChatGPT. It
gave a better answer from the start.

If you have a WordPress site with no pages or posts, the default
behavior of WordPress depends on the theme you have installed.
However, in most cases, the following elements are typically displayed
when you visit the site:

Header: The header section of your website, which usually includes the
site title or logo and the main navigation menu.

Footer: The footer section of your website, containing information
such as copyright notices, links to privacy policies, terms of use,
and contact information.

Sidebar: If your theme has a sidebar, it may be displayed on the site.
The sidebar typically contains widgets like search bars, categories,
recent posts, or custom content, depending on your theme and widget
settings.

Widgets: Some themes display widgets in areas other than the sidebar,
such as the footer or header. These can include social media icons,
subscription forms, or other customizable elements.

Empty Content Area: Since you have no pages or posts, the main content
area of your site may appear empty or display a default message like
"No content found" or "This site does not have any content yet."

It's important to note that the appearance of your site can be
customized by installing and configuring different themes, page
builders, and plugins. These tools allow you to create and arrange
content in various ways, so the actual display of your site may vary
depending on your specific settings.

On Sun, May 21, 2023 at 12:01 PM Gary Schiltz
 wrote:
>
> I haven't signed up for ChatGPT or similar, so I tried Google Bard to
> get an answer to a practical question to do with WordPress
> development. I knew that the answer that it gave me was incorrect, and
> said so. Here is an abridged version of the second conversation:
>
> Gary: I asked Google Bard the following question: "If I have a
> wordpress site with no pages or posts, what gets displayed when I go
> to the site?" and it basically told me that it won't display anything,
> and told me how to add pages or posts. That answer was just plain
> wrong. The theme somehow displays something by default, and I'd like
> to know what mechanism it uses to show this default content.
>
> Bard admitted it was wrong and pointed to what I presume is correct (I
> haven't looked into it to verify).
>
> Bard: You are correct, Google Bard's answer was incorrect. When you
> have a WordPress site with no pages or posts, the theme will display a
> default content. This default content is usually a message that
> encourages you to create your first page or post. The mechanism that
> the theme uses to display this default content is called the template
> hierarchy. The template hierarchy is a system that WordPress uses to
> determine which template file to load for a particular page or post.
> When you have no pages or posts, WordPress will load the index.php
> template file. This file is responsible for displaying the default
> content.
>
> The following is an example of the default content that is displayed
> by the index.php template file:
>
> Code snippet
>
> 
> 
> 
> Welcome to WordPress
> 
> 
> Welcome to WordPress
> This is your new WordPress site. To get started, please create your
> first page or post.
> Create a new page
> Create a new post
> 
> 
>
> You can customize the default content by editing the index.php
> template file. You can find this file in your theme's directory.
>
>
> I wonder how ChatGPT would fare? Anyone care to try since I haven't
> signed up for it...

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Re: [FRIAM] Google Bard

2023-05-21 Thread Sarbajit Roy
ChatGPT 3.5 response






*If you have a WordPress site with no pages or posts, the default behavior
depends on the theme you are using and how it's configured. Typically, when
you visit a WordPress site without any content, the homepage will display a
message such as "Nothing Found" or "No Results Found."The specific message
may vary based on your theme, but it usually indicates that there are no
published posts or pages available. Additionally, some themes might display
a basic placeholder content or a search form to allow visitors to search
for content on the site.To customize what gets displayed on your homepage,
you can create a new page or set a static page as your homepage in the
WordPress settings. You can also modify your theme or install plugins to
customize the appearance and behavior of your site.*

On Sun, May 21, 2023 at 10:32 PM Gary Schiltz 
wrote:

> I haven't signed up for ChatGPT or similar, so I tried Google Bard to
> get an answer to a practical question to do with WordPress
> development. I knew that the answer that it gave me was incorrect, and
> said so. Here is an abridged version of the second conversation:
>
> Gary: I asked Google Bard the following question: "If I have a
> wordpress site with no pages or posts, what gets displayed when I go
> to the site?" and it basically told me that it won't display anything,
> and told me how to add pages or posts. That answer was just plain
> wrong. The theme somehow displays something by default, and I'd like
> to know what mechanism it uses to show this default content.
>
> Bard admitted it was wrong and pointed to what I presume is correct (I
> haven't looked into it to verify).
>
> Bard: You are correct, Google Bard's answer was incorrect. When you
> have a WordPress site with no pages or posts, the theme will display a
> default content. This default content is usually a message that
> encourages you to create your first page or post. The mechanism that
> the theme uses to display this default content is called the template
> hierarchy. The template hierarchy is a system that WordPress uses to
> determine which template file to load for a particular page or post.
> When you have no pages or posts, WordPress will load the index.php
> template file. This file is responsible for displaying the default
> content.
>
> The following is an example of the default content that is displayed
> by the index.php template file:
>
> Code snippet
>
> 
> 
> 
> Welcome to WordPress
> 
> 
> Welcome to WordPress
> This is your new WordPress site. To get started, please create your
> first page or post.
> Create a new page
> Create a new post
> 
> 
>
> You can customize the default content by editing the index.php
> template file. You can find this file in your theme's directory.
>
>
> I wonder how ChatGPT would fare? Anyone care to try since I haven't
> signed up for it...
>
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[FRIAM] Google Bard

2023-05-21 Thread Gary Schiltz
I haven't signed up for ChatGPT or similar, so I tried Google Bard to
get an answer to a practical question to do with WordPress
development. I knew that the answer that it gave me was incorrect, and
said so. Here is an abridged version of the second conversation:

Gary: I asked Google Bard the following question: "If I have a
wordpress site with no pages or posts, what gets displayed when I go
to the site?" and it basically told me that it won't display anything,
and told me how to add pages or posts. That answer was just plain
wrong. The theme somehow displays something by default, and I'd like
to know what mechanism it uses to show this default content.

Bard admitted it was wrong and pointed to what I presume is correct (I
haven't looked into it to verify).

Bard: You are correct, Google Bard's answer was incorrect. When you
have a WordPress site with no pages or posts, the theme will display a
default content. This default content is usually a message that
encourages you to create your first page or post. The mechanism that
the theme uses to display this default content is called the template
hierarchy. The template hierarchy is a system that WordPress uses to
determine which template file to load for a particular page or post.
When you have no pages or posts, WordPress will load the index.php
template file. This file is responsible for displaying the default
content.

The following is an example of the default content that is displayed
by the index.php template file:

Code snippet




Welcome to WordPress


Welcome to WordPress
This is your new WordPress site. To get started, please create your
first page or post.
Create a new page
Create a new post



You can customize the default content by editing the index.php
template file. You can find this file in your theme's directory.


I wonder how ChatGPT would fare? Anyone care to try since I haven't
signed up for it...

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