Re: [FRIAM] Psychology Blogs
Owen -- An excellent point to Roger and the rest of us. Frankly, I struggle with my RSS feeds: at present, Bloglines has me at 576, which is probably on the high end of most users. Still, I like them largely because I selected them, which suggests a certain echo chamber bias. I read probably 20% within a week, another 30% within 30 days, and the remainder within 90 days. The latency bothers me a bit, since time matters somewhat, but I'm unlikely to devote more than about 20 hours/week to blogs directly. It's much better than surfing around to each, however. I'd like to read some blogs more frequently (bOING bOING, for example), but find that the number of entries fills up quickly, and when I'm scanning, I'm much more likely to go for my more macroeconomic blogs that have had 10 entries since last I looked than those that have had 150. Maybe there's an interesting opportunity for blogs to optimize posting frequency, bearing in mind Machiavelli's admonition: Benefits should be conferred gradually; and in that way they will taste better. (probably not the best translation, but the best I could find on the Internets). - Claiborne Booker -? -Original Message- From: Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.net To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group friam@redfish.com Sent: Thu, Sep 3, 2009 4:35 pm Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Psychology Blogs On Sep 3, 2009, at 4:28 PM, Roger Critchlow wrote:? ? I just put it all into Google Reader and star the stuff I might want? to go back to read later. If I get too far behind, I just mark it all? read and go on.? ? -- rec --? ? The problem is that you are a computer pro. I doubt you could show others how to think in this fashion. You need to understand blogs, and that they are article based with dates. You'd have to explain RSS feeds as a notification stunt. You'd have to explain that there are ways to use the feeds: Google Reader, Browser functionalities, Aggregators, and so on. It really is hard, at least at the conceptual level for non-geeks.? ? I remember *several* folks at the complex begging for chats on how to use the web so to speak. We never got around to it, but boy would it be useful. Don had a few barn raising sessions: come with your laptop and we'll show you how to use the wiki or how to use forums. Maybe we ought to go back to that?? ? ? -- Owen? ? ? ? FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv? Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College? lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org? FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
Re: [FRIAM] Psychology Blogs
It may be the Berkeley Relic speaking in me, but I have often found ettiquette to be the next door neighbor of fascism. Do you all remember the Sandwich Nazi of Seinfeld? N Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University (nthomp...@clarku.edu) http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ [Original Message] From: glen e. p. ropella g...@agent-based-modeling.com To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group friam@redfish.com Date: 9/4/2009 9:06:50 AM Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Psychology Blogs Thus spake Owen Densmore circa 09/03/2009 03:35 PM: I remember *several* folks at the complex begging for chats on how to use the web so to speak. We never got around to it, but boy would it be useful. Don had a few barn raising sessions: come with your laptop and we'll show you how to use the wiki or how to use forums. Maybe we ought to go back to that? The trouble with this sort of thing is that (I posit) that the internet has been successful because of the low-overhead (read I can use it however I want because it's simple and composable) protocols. Adding layers of abstraction like etiquette and how to (properly) use it are quickly rendered obsolete. A better set of howtos would target _very_ specific and concrete actions... like, how to find out who added that clearly biased clause to the Wikipedia entry on Haskell. [grin] Or, how to cross-correlate forums to find out whether a blogger is using another identity to comment on his own blog entries. -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://agent-based-modeling.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
Re: [FRIAM] Psychology Blogs
Thus spake Nicholas Thompson circa 09-09-04 01:18 PM: It may be the Berkeley Relic speaking in me, but I have often found ettiquette to be the next door neighbor of fascism. It doesn't ring the same bells for me. I'm fond of Eco's (vague but indicating) characteristics of fascism: 1. cult of tradition 2. luddism/irrationalism 3. action for action's sake 4. anti-critical 5. fear of dissension 6. appeal to the frustrated middle 7. pervasive belief in conspiracy 8. the myopic underdog 9. life is warfare 10. contempt for underlings 11. herophilia or glorification of martyrdom 12. conflation of the biological with the social 13. abstracted (ideal, not real) body politic 14. newspeak And I don't really see a good place to put etiquette. I suppose various colors of it could fall under (1), (4), (5), and (14)... and, perhaps (2) and (8) on a stretch. But, mostly, etiquette is just an attempt to govern based on a minimal, civilized, set of soft rules. Everything anti-fascist can still take place within the bounds of etiquette. But the thing I was trying to point out was that any standard of behavior over and above what is possible is easily punctured when the underlying components are simple and easily composed. A great example is a unix shell. An interesting example is, say, RESTful web development. A self-referencing example is the recent discussion of kitchen-sink ABM frameworks. A HowTo on how to use a wiki is a lot like one on how to build an ABM. But a HowTo on how to build a page graph in a wiki is much more tenable, even though it's still multivalent. The more specific and concrete you get, the more likely you'll be successful. (... unless your goal is to use large catch-all buzzwords to get people excited without giving them any real tools they can take home with them, in which case you want to be as general and abstract as possible.) A more reflective point about puncturing standards of behavior (e.g. Ikea's recent font change) is that when a subset of the participants _expect_ an easily punctured standard, innovative participants will inevitably be considered rude or as not being team players. I think this is why the internet intensifies people's feelings that others are rude or obnoxious because the internet consists of simple, easily composed things that no matter what organization one chooses for her construct, it will violate some other person's standard. That also leads to a much larger number of should statements... One should never use orange text on a blue background! [grin] -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://agent-based-modeling.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
Re: [FRIAM] Psychology Blogs
Thus spake Owen Densmore circa 09/03/2009 03:35 PM: I remember *several* folks at the complex begging for chats on how to use the web so to speak. We never got around to it, but boy would it be useful. Don had a few barn raising sessions: come with your laptop and we'll show you how to use the wiki or how to use forums. Maybe we ought to go back to that? The trouble with this sort of thing is that (I posit) that the internet has been successful because of the low-overhead (read I can use it however I want because it's simple and composable) protocols. Adding layers of abstraction like etiquette and how to (properly) use it are quickly rendered obsolete. A better set of howtos would target _very_ specific and concrete actions... like, how to find out who added that clearly biased clause to the Wikipedia entry on Haskell. [grin] Or, how to cross-correlate forums to find out whether a blogger is using another identity to comment on his own blog entries. -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://agent-based-modeling.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
[FRIAM] Psychology Blogs
Here is a list of 40 good Psychology blogs, which Psychology blogs do you read regularly? http://www.spring.org.uk/2009/07/40-superb-psychology-blogs.php -J. FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
Re: [FRIAM] Psychology Blogs
I am the only person in the world who doesnt read blogs? But I have to say this site looks interesting. May Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University (nthomp...@clarku.edu) http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ [Original Message] From: Jochen Fromm jfr...@t-online.de To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Friam@redfish.com Date: 9/3/2009 7:17:24 PM Subject: [FRIAM] Psychology Blogs Here is a list of 40 good Psychology blogs, which Psychology blogs do you read regularly? http://www.spring.org.uk/2009/07/40-superb-psychology-blogs.php -J. FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
Re: [FRIAM] Psychology Blogs
That you didn't read blogs would surprise me, as interested as you are in *other* people's opinions... ;-} --Doug On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Nicholas Thompson nickthomp...@earthlink.net wrote: I am the only person in the world who doesnt read blogs? [Original Message] From: Jochen Fromm jfr...@t-online.de To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Friam@redfish.com Date: 9/3/2009 7:17:24 PM Subject: [FRIAM] Psychology Blogs Here is a list of 40 good Psychology blogs, which Psychology blogs do you read regularly? http://www.spring.org.uk/2009/07/40-superb-psychology-blogs.php -J. FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org -- Doug Roberts drobe...@rti.org d...@parrot-farm.net 505-455-7333 - Office 505-670-8195 - Cell FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
Re: [FRIAM] Psychology Blogs
I just put it all into Google Reader and star the stuff I might want to go back to read later. If I get too far behind, I just mark it all read and go on. -- rec -- On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Owen Densmoreo...@backspaces.net wrote: On Sep 3, 2009, at 4:05 PM, Douglas Roberts wrote: That you didn't read blogs would surprise me, as interested as you are in *other* people's opinions... To be fair, following blogs can be difficult. So many interesting ones, so little time. Tom Johnson does a great job at it .. Tom: do you use some sort of aggregator? Or just rss feeds? The browser I use makes it fairly easy to follow blogs via rss feeds. But I ran into trouble when I followed several really busy blogs via rss -- I'd end up with 100 entries within a day or so. So I break blog usage into three modes: - RSS feeds for 20-30 blogs that publish daily or less. - Direct links to the busy blogs that I care about. - And best of all FRIAM and other great groups who point things out to me! -- Owen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
