Re: [FRIAM] The Top 10 Programming Languages - IEEE Spectrum

2011-09-29 Thread Owen Densmore
Superb!

-- Owen

On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 11:47 PM, Roger Critchlow  wrote:

> I think we need a David Letterman/Jimmy Fallon top 10/thank you list of
> programming languages:
>
> Ruby - thank you the slowest implementation of really cool concepts ever
> made
> Python - thank you for never sorting any list of anything before the UI
> window turns grey
> C++ - thank you for all the features I can never remember how to use
> C - thank you for allowing me to cast integers to pointers even when I
> should have gone to sleep instead
> Java - thank you for collecting more garbage than any programmer ever
> should have been allowed to make
> Fortran - thank you for 40 years of non-recursive functions
> Perl - thank you for teaching my daughter the inscrutability of if
> statements interpolated into expressions
> Php and Sql - thank you for all those web site implementations that no one
> will ever get right
> VisualBasic and C# - thank you for all those killer apps that never got
> written for windows
> Javascript - thank you for hanging in there when no one believed you really
> were a programming language
>
> -- rec --
>
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Re: [FRIAM] The Top 10 Programming Languages - IEEE Spectrum

2011-09-29 Thread Marcus G. Daniels

On 9/28/11 11:47 PM, Roger Critchlow wrote:

Fortran - thank you for 40 years of non-recursive functions

About 36 years before it was fixed (in 1954-1990).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fortran_95_language_features#Recursion


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Re: [FRIAM] The Top 10 Programming Languages - IEEE Spectrum

2011-09-28 Thread Roger Critchlow
I think we need a David Letterman/Jimmy Fallon top 10/thank you list of
programming languages:

Ruby - thank you the slowest implementation of really cool concepts ever
made
Python - thank you for never sorting any list of anything before the UI
window turns grey
C++ - thank you for all the features I can never remember how to use
C - thank you for allowing me to cast integers to pointers even when I
should have gone to sleep instead
Java - thank you for collecting more garbage than any programmer ever should
have been allowed to make
Fortran - thank you for 40 years of non-recursive functions
Perl - thank you for teaching my daughter the inscrutability of if
statements interpolated into expressions
Php and Sql - thank you for all those web site implementations that no one
will ever get right
VisualBasic and C# - thank you for all those killer apps that never got
written for windows
Javascript - thank you for hanging in there when no one believed you really
were a programming language

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Re: [FRIAM] The Top 10 Programming Languages - IEEE Spectrum

2011-09-28 Thread Marcus G. Daniels

Among the most-cited these languages are named or implied:

http://academic.research.microsoft.com/RankList?entitytype=2&topDomainID=2&subDomainID=24

AspectJ
Metaobject protocols (Common Lisp / CLOS)
Haskell
Scheme
ML
Java




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Re: [FRIAM] The Top 10 Programming Languages - IEEE Spectrum

2011-09-28 Thread Owen Densmore
I think they would consider R a "Domain Specific Language" which they appear
to not categorize.  NetLogo, Processing, SCSS, Shockwave, AppleScript,
Groovy etc, for example are not included.

Fascinating that Cobal ranks around the same as Fortran.  Weird 'cause
Fortran is included in all the mathematics bundles.

I don't think they should separate C and C++ .. they really are merged at
this point.

Interesting trends that seem to agree with the hacker elite:
- Javascript much higher than a few years ago.  Damn. I was hoping we'd have
it for ourselves for a while.
- Ruby far less popular than earlier, likely due to much better web
frameworks now.
- The /. stats will be useful unless they are clever about "LangX .. sucks"
not being +1
- Clearly Apple should do something about Objective C .. nifty as it is in
some ways, it simply does not appeal to "high level language" folks without
GC.  Only folks forced to use it do so.

   -- Owen


On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Brent Auble  wrote:

> One language missing from that site is R (understandably since it's really
> tough to search accurately for a single letter, although they seem to do it
> for C and D...)  It's also tough because most R package development is done
> on the R-Forge site or just uploaded to CRAN, so there's no good way to do
> comparative popularity.  LangPop admits that it's hard for them to get
> useful data on R:
> http://groups.google.com/group/langpop/browse_thread/thread/dbcff0fb63552ebf#
>
> However, Bob Muenchen (r4stats.com) has done his own analysis of the
> popularity of R: http://sites.google.com/site/r4statistics/popularity
>
> Brent
>
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> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Tom Johnson  wrote:
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> The Top 10 Programming Languages They're mostly ones you'd expect'and then
> there's Lua
> http://spectrum.ieee.org/at-work/tech-careers/the-top-10-programming-languages?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+IeeeSpectrum+%28IEEE+Spectrum%29
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Re: [FRIAM] The Top 10 Programming Languages - IEEE Spectrum

2011-09-28 Thread Brent Auble
One language missing from that site is R (understandably since it's really 
tough to search accurately for a single letter, although they seem to do it for 
C and D...)  It's also tough because most R package development is done on the 
R-Forge site or just uploaded to CRAN, so there's no good way to do comparative 
popularity.  LangPop admits that it's hard for them to get useful data on R: 
http://groups.google.com/group/langpop/browse_thread/thread/dbcff0fb63552ebf#


However, Bob Muenchen (r4stats.com) has done his own analysis of the popularity 
of R: http://sites.google.com/site/r4statistics/popularity

Brent





From: Douglas Roberts 
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Nice.  Thanks, Tom.

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On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Tom Johnson  wrote:

The Top 10 Programming Languages
>They're mostly ones you'd expect'and then there's 
>Luahttp://spectrum.ieee.org/at-work/tech-careers/the-top-10-programming-languages?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+IeeeSpectrum+%28IEEE+Spectrum%29
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Re: [FRIAM] The Top 10 Programming Languages - IEEE Spectrum

2011-09-28 Thread Douglas Roberts
Nice.  Thanks, Tom.

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On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Tom Johnson  wrote:

> The Top 10 Programming Languages They're mostly ones you'd expect'and then
> there's Lua
> http://spectrum.ieee.org/at-work/tech-careers/the-top-10-programming-languages?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+IeeeSpectrum+%28IEEE+Spectrum%29
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[FRIAM] The Top 10 Programming Languages - IEEE Spectrum

2011-09-28 Thread Tom Johnson
The Top 10 Programming Languages They're mostly ones you'd expect'and then
there's Lua
http://spectrum.ieee.org/at-work/tech-careers/the-top-10-programming-languages?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+IeeeSpectrum+%28IEEE+Spectrum%29

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