Re: [FRIAM] Who knew a good Coors head could make this shutdown hillarius

2019-01-10 Thread ∄ uǝʃƃ
I've run into the Oregon branch (WACO) a few times: 
http://www.worldoregon.org/, mostly in meetup groups of hackers donating their 
time to work on public works projects (e.g. building UIs for the many open 
databases here in Oregon).  And this branch seems pretty focused on exposing 
people to issues they may not see much of in our more myopic press outlets 
(like the local news).

But I have zero experience with the larger conglomerate, WACA.  Depending on 
how you feel about the Jonathan Haidt, right wing "no free speech in 
universities" BS, we might be able to infer something from this:

  https://wacphila.org/events/economic-nationalism

A "no platform" SJW might infer that WACA is abetting Bannon's right-wing 
rhetoric by letting him talk.  I honestly don't know where I land on that, in 
general.  In this particular case, though, I have NO clue why anyone would 
listen to anything Bannon has to say.

But the WACA vs. WACO thing might be akin to the US Chamber of Commerce vs. 
local chambers of commerce.  I've found the local ones to be non-partisan and 
empathetic towards all manner of social issues, whereas the US one seems like a 
bunch of rich people building big walls to protect their privilege.  So, who 
knows?

On 1/9/19 8:15 PM, Steven A Smith wrote:
> I'm wondering if anyone here is familiar with them?   It is a mostly casual 
> curiosity on my part, lead there by my maunderings about whether I'm 
> supporting right-wing whackos with my beer $$ (when I buy Shiner).

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Re: [FRIAM] Who knew a good Coors head could make this shutdown hillarius

2019-01-09 Thread Steven A Smith

Glen -

Thanks for the GoogleFu help/instruction.   You have a good kit of go-to 
sources that I'm only hit or miss with, like OpenSecrets.org.


Tugging the threads you offered a little further, I was surprised to 
find that he is on the board of the World Affairs Council of America and 
former chairman of the San Antonio Branch.  I had never even heard of 
them, and the little bit of continued tugging suggests they are pretty 
neutral/non-partisan and *seem* to be honest players.   Unfortunately 
lots of people in this contemporary media-savvy culture seem to be able 
to present as non-partisan when they really aren't even close.   For 
example, I'd heard of Prager University before they started polluting my 
YouTube experience with their high production quality, seemingly 
progressive or at least not radical-right messaging which always 
devolves into some kind of devious right-wingnut twisting of the ideas 
being presented.   It doesn't take much searching around for find 
criticism of them, however, I could not find any description of this 
World Affairs Council that addressed how well they act out their 
non-partisanship.


I'm wondering if anyone here is familiar with them?   It is a mostly 
casual curiosity on my part, lead there by my maunderings about whether 
I'm supporting right-wing whackos with my beer $$ (when I buy Shiner).


- Steve

On 1/9/19 12:37 PM, uǝlƃ ☣ wrote:

Just a little googly:

   http://www.gambrinus.com/brands.html
   https://www.opensecrets.org/donor-lookup/results?employ=Gambrinus
   https://www.frostbank.com/leadership/carlos-alvarez

FWIW, I drink Bridgeport all the time, regardless that I'm sending my money to 
TX.  (I'm also sending some of that money to the few employees here in Portland 
that I know work there.)  And I don't think Alvarez is a virulent type of 
Republican.  So, there's that, I guess.

On 1/9/19 11:05 AM, Steven A Smith wrote:

Thanks a LOT Gil/Glen, NOW I'm thirsty for beer, and have been since I read it 
soon after you posted.

Good writing & delivery as you noted, would we call this some kind of Beer 
Rebus?

I do love the craft brew movement, but have to admit that my fridge has the 
remnants of a Shiner variety pack in it.  I do love me the Alien Amber, but 
only on tap... with Shiner Bock being my best substitute in a bottle.  I feel a 
tad guilty every time I buy a 12 of Shiner, what being it a product of the 
nominally uber-conservative state of Texas.  Of course, I have not a clue of 
the politics of the people making money from it's sale.  I do try to align my 
purchases (especially luxury goods) with my belief systems (if not outright 
politics) but it is surprising how often I realize I've lapsed in that 
awareness.



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Re: [FRIAM] Who knew a good Coors head could make this shutdown hillarius

2019-01-09 Thread uǝlƃ ☣
Just a little googly:

  http://www.gambrinus.com/brands.html
  https://www.opensecrets.org/donor-lookup/results?employ=Gambrinus
  https://www.frostbank.com/leadership/carlos-alvarez

FWIW, I drink Bridgeport all the time, regardless that I'm sending my money to 
TX.  (I'm also sending some of that money to the few employees here in Portland 
that I know work there.)  And I don't think Alvarez is a virulent type of 
Republican.  So, there's that, I guess.

On 1/9/19 11:05 AM, Steven A Smith wrote:
> Thanks a LOT Gil/Glen, NOW I'm thirsty for beer, and have been since I read 
> it soon after you posted.
> 
> Good writing & delivery as you noted, would we call this some kind of Beer 
> Rebus?
> 
> I do love the craft brew movement, but have to admit that my fridge has the 
> remnants of a Shiner variety pack in it.  I do love me the Alien Amber, but 
> only on tap... with Shiner Bock being my best substitute in a bottle.  I feel 
> a tad guilty every time I buy a 12 of Shiner, what being it a product of the 
> nominally uber-conservative state of Texas.  Of course, I have not a clue of 
> the politics of the people making money from it's sale.  I do try to align my 
> purchases (especially luxury goods) with my belief systems (if not outright 
> politics) but it is surprising how often I realize I've lapsed in that 
> awareness.

-- 
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Re: [FRIAM] Who knew a good Coors head could make this shutdown hillarius

2019-01-09 Thread Steven A Smith
Thanks a LOT Gil/Glen, NOW I'm thirsty for beer, and have been since I 
read it soon after you posted.


Good writing & delivery as you noted, would we call this some kind of 
Beer Rebus?


I do love the craft brew movement, but have to admit that my fridge has 
the remnants of a Shiner variety pack in it.  I do love me the Alien 
Amber, but only on tap... with Shiner Bock being my best substitute in a 
bottle.  I feel a tad guilty every time I buy a 12 of Shiner, what being 
it a product of the nominally uber-conservative state of Texas.  Of 
course, I have not a clue of the politics of the people making money 
from it's sale.  I do try to align my purchases (especially luxury 
goods) with my belief systems (if not outright politics) but it is 
surprising how often I realize I've lapsed in that awareness.


On 1/9/19 8:11 AM, ∄ uǝʃƃ wrote:

The unfortunate part of this story is the apparent coincidence of right wingers 
and those who always drink the same beer, with the same label, that doesn't 
need new label approval from the government because the government approved of 
that label a million years ago.  It's only us hipster liberals that want to 
drink NEW beer that might require a new label.

But, as usual, the writers and Colbert's delivery are fantastic.

On 1/9/19 6:43 AM, Gillian Densmore wrote:

Thanks Colbert

https://youtu.be/xizCOdu3_1E

Worth a watch...now i'll have to try to breath again from laughing at a
great anology that's disturbingly acurate and maybe find the Alian Amber
from wence  all this came from...it clearly has a Fat Tire.



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Re: [FRIAM] Who knew a good Coors head could make this shutdown hillarius

2019-01-09 Thread ∄ uǝʃƃ
The unfortunate part of this story is the apparent coincidence of right wingers 
and those who always drink the same beer, with the same label, that doesn't 
need new label approval from the government because the government approved of 
that label a million years ago.  It's only us hipster liberals that want to 
drink NEW beer that might require a new label.

But, as usual, the writers and Colbert's delivery are fantastic.

On 1/9/19 6:43 AM, Gillian Densmore wrote:
> Thanks Colbert
> 
> https://youtu.be/xizCOdu3_1E
> 
> Worth a watch...now i'll have to try to breath again from laughing at a
> great anology that's disturbingly acurate and maybe find the Alian Amber
> from wence  all this came from...it clearly has a Fat Tire.

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[FRIAM] Who knew a good Coors head could make this shutdown hillarius

2019-01-09 Thread Gillian Densmore
Thanks Colbert

https://youtu.be/xizCOdu3_1E

Worth a watch...now i'll have to try to breath again from laughing at a
great anology that's disturbingly acurate and maybe find the Alian Amber
from wence  all this came from...it clearly has a Fat Tire.

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