[FRIAM] Wind Farm Comprssible Flow!

2009-11-26 Thread plissaman
I didn't know that wind tur bines experienced compressible flow.  This makes 
all my papers and books on the subject wrong, although the operating turbines 
designed by my codes don't seem to know this!   I would like to correct them.  
Can anyone provide reports on compressible flow in wind farms? 

Peter Lissaman, Da Vinci Ventures 

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Re: [FRIAM] Wind Farm Comprssible Flow!

2009-11-26 Thread Marcus Daniels

plissa...@comcast.net wrote:
I didn't know that wind turbines experienced compressible flow.  This 
makes all my papers and books on the subject wrong, although the 
operating turbines designed by my codes don't seem to know this! 

Is it that compressible flow is a small influence, or not relevant in 
traditional wind farms, or can it not occur for some reason?   It's 
unclear what the claim is from that press release.   I asked one of the 
authors for their slides.



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Re: [FRIAM] Wind Farm Comprssible Flow!

2009-11-26 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Ok.  It's unfair for your smart people to tease us dumb ones.  

Is air a compressible medium or not?  

N

Nicholas S. Thompson
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Clark University (nthomp...@clarku.edu)
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I didn't know that wind turbines experienced compressible flow.  This makes all 
my papers and books on the subject wrong, although the operating turbines 
designed by my codes don't seem to know this!   I would like to correct them.  
Can anyone provide reports on compressible flow in wind farms?

Peter Lissaman, Da Vinci Ventures

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Re: [FRIAM] Wind Farm Comprssible Flow!

2009-11-26 Thread qef

 Nick --

Sure. Think about tires. Air is compressed in them. By the way, those who 
advocate filling tires with Nitrogen sometimes conveniently forget that our 
atmosphere is already 78% Nitrogen. It makes a slight advantage in racing 
tires, but most of us run with underinflated tires anyway. It's one of the 
cheapest and easiest ways to boost fuel efficiency - make sure your tires have 
the proper amount of compressed air.

- Claiborne Booker -

 

 

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Ok.  It's unfair for your smart people to tease us dumb ones.  
 
Is air a compressible medium or not?  
 
N
 

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, 
Clark University (nthomp...@clarku.edu)
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
http://www.cusf.org [City University of Santa Fe]
 
 
 

 

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I didn't know that wind turbines experienced compressible flow.  This makes all 
my papers and books on the subject wrong, although the operating turbines 
designed by my codes don't seem to know this!   I would like to correct them.  
Can anyone provide reports on compressible flow in wind farms?

Peter Lissaman, Da Vinci Ventures

Expertise is not knowing everything, but knowing what to look for.

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