Re: [FRIAM] Broadband in NM

2017-03-17 Thread Joe Spinden

Gotta love it.  Truly the Land of Enchantment.

Joe



On 3/17/17 8:27 AM, Frank Wimberly wrote:

http://www.kob.com/politics-news/legislature-declares-six-bills-as-law-even-though-governor-susana-vetoed-them-new-mexico-politics/4428292/?cat=500

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On Mar 17, 2017 8:08 AM, "Robert Ballance" > wrote:


Do you have a pointer to the story?

... Bob

On Mar 17, 2017, at 09:39, Frank Wimberly mailto:wimber...@gmail.com>> wrote:


There was a story late last night that the NM Constitution
requires that the Governor is required to explain her objections
upon vetoing a bill.  Since she didn't do that the legislature
declared her vetoes overridden.  I suspect that fight isn't over
yet.

Frank

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On Mar 17, 2017 7:27 AM, "cody dooderson" mailto:d00d3r...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Since there was only 1 vote against it in both the house and
Senate, couldn't a 2/3 override take place.

On Mar 16, 2017 8:56 PM, "Merle Lefkoff"
mailto:merlelefk...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Richard Lowenberg knows all. r...@1st-mile.org


On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 12:37 PM, Robert J. Cordingley
mailto:rob...@cirrillian.com>> wrote:

Does anyone local have any ideas/insight why the NM
governor vetoed the LOCAL GOV'T BROADBAND
INFRASTRUCTURE SB24 bill? Sour grapes?

See

http://us2.campaign-archive1.com/?u=d1faf3c75d2ac5da75ced6dd5&id=130117cfbe&e=0bf456e615




"The bill passed the Senate by a vote of 37-1 and
passed unanimously out of the House of Representatives."

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Re: [FRIAM] Broadband in NM

2017-03-17 Thread Frank Wimberly
http://www.kob.com/politics-news/legislature-declares-six-bills-as-law-even-though-governor-susana-vetoed-them-new-mexico-politics/4428292/?cat=500

Frank Wimberly
Phone (505) 670-9918

On Mar 17, 2017 8:08 AM, "Robert Ballance"  wrote:

> Do you have a pointer to the story?
>
> ... Bob
>
> On Mar 17, 2017, at 09:39, Frank Wimberly  wrote:
>
> There was a story late last night that the NM Constitution requires that
> the Governor is required to explain her objections upon vetoing a bill.
> Since she didn't do that the legislature declared her vetoes overridden.  I
> suspect that fight isn't over yet.
>
> Frank
>
> Frank Wimberly
> Phone (505) 670-9918
>
> On Mar 17, 2017 7:27 AM, "cody dooderson"  wrote:
>
>> Since there was only 1 vote against it in both the house and Senate,
>> couldn't a 2/3 override take place.
>>
>> On Mar 16, 2017 8:56 PM, "Merle Lefkoff"  wrote:
>>
>>> Richard Lowenberg knows all.  r...@1st-mile.org
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 12:37 PM, Robert J. Cordingley <
>>> rob...@cirrillian.com> wrote:
>>>
 Does anyone local have any ideas/insight why the NM governor vetoed the
 LOCAL GOV'T BROADBAND INFRASTRUCTURE SB24 bill? Sour grapes?

 See http://us2.campaign-archive1.com/?u=d1faf3c75d2ac5da75ced6dd
 5&id=130117cfbe&e=0bf456e615

 "The bill passed the Senate by a vote of 37-1 and passed
 unanimously out of the House of Representatives."

 Robert C

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Re: [FRIAM] Broadband in NM

2017-03-17 Thread Robert Ballance
Do you have a pointer to the story? 

... Bob

> On Mar 17, 2017, at 09:39, Frank Wimberly  wrote:
> 
> There was a story late last night that the NM Constitution requires that the 
> Governor is required to explain her objections upon vetoing a bill.  Since 
> she didn't do that the legislature declared her vetoes overridden.  I suspect 
> that fight isn't over yet.
> 
> Frank
> 
> Frank Wimberly
> Phone (505) 670-9918
> 
>> On Mar 17, 2017 7:27 AM, "cody dooderson"  wrote:
>> Since there was only 1 vote against it in both the house and Senate, 
>> couldn't a 2/3 override take place. 
>> 
>>> On Mar 16, 2017 8:56 PM, "Merle Lefkoff"  wrote:
>>> Richard Lowenberg knows all. r...@1st-mile.org
>>> 
 On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 12:37 PM, Robert J. Cordingley 
  wrote:
 Does anyone local have any ideas/insight why the NM governor vetoed the 
 LOCAL GOV'T BROADBAND INFRASTRUCTURE SB24 bill? Sour grapes?
 
 See 
 http://us2.campaign-archive1.com/?u=d1faf3c75d2ac5da75ced6dd5&id=130117cfbe&e=0bf456e615
  
 
 "The bill passed the Senate by a vote of 37-1 and passed unanimously 
 out of the House of Representatives."
 
 Robert C
 
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 Santa Fe, NM
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>>> 
>>> 
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>>> President, Center for Emergent Diplomacy
>>> emergentdiplomacy.org
>>> Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
>>> 
>>> Visiting Professor in Integrative Peacebuilding
>>> Saint Paul University
>>> Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
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Re: [FRIAM] Broadband in NM

2017-03-17 Thread Frank Wimberly
There was a story late last night that the NM Constitution requires that
the Governor is required to explain her objections upon vetoing a bill.
Since she didn't do that the legislature declared her vetoes overridden.  I
suspect that fight isn't over yet.

Frank

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Phone (505) 670-9918

On Mar 17, 2017 7:27 AM, "cody dooderson"  wrote:

> Since there was only 1 vote against it in both the house and Senate,
> couldn't a 2/3 override take place.
>
> On Mar 16, 2017 8:56 PM, "Merle Lefkoff"  wrote:
>
>> Richard Lowenberg knows all.  r...@1st-mile.org
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 12:37 PM, Robert J. Cordingley <
>> rob...@cirrillian.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone local have any ideas/insight why the NM governor vetoed the
>>> LOCAL GOV'T BROADBAND INFRASTRUCTURE SB24 bill? Sour grapes?
>>>
>>> See http://us2.campaign-archive1.com/?u=d1faf3c75d2ac5da75ced6dd
>>> 5&id=130117cfbe&e=0bf456e615
>>>
>>> "The bill passed the Senate by a vote of 37-1 and passed unanimously
>>> out of the House of Representatives."
>>>
>>> Robert C
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cirrillian
>>> Web Design & Development
>>> Santa Fe, NM
>>> http://cirrillian.com
>>> 281-989-6272 (cell)
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> President, Center for Emergent Diplomacy
>> emergentdiplomacy.org
>> Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
>>
>> Visiting Professor in Integrative Peacebuilding
>> Saint Paul University
>> Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
>>
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Re: [FRIAM] Broadband in NM

2017-03-17 Thread cody dooderson
Since there was only 1 vote against it in both the house and Senate,
couldn't a 2/3 override take place.

On Mar 16, 2017 8:56 PM, "Merle Lefkoff"  wrote:

> Richard Lowenberg knows all.  r...@1st-mile.org
>
> On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 12:37 PM, Robert J. Cordingley <
> rob...@cirrillian.com> wrote:
>
>> Does anyone local have any ideas/insight why the NM governor vetoed the
>> LOCAL GOV'T BROADBAND INFRASTRUCTURE SB24 bill? Sour grapes?
>>
>> See http://us2.campaign-archive1.com/?u=d1faf3c75d2ac5da75ced6dd
>> 5&id=130117cfbe&e=0bf456e615
>>
>> "The bill passed the Senate by a vote of 37-1 and passed unanimously
>> out of the House of Representatives."
>>
>> Robert C
>>
>> --
>> Cirrillian
>> Web Design & Development
>> Santa Fe, NM
>> http://cirrillian.com
>> 281-989-6272 (cell)
>>
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>
>
>
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> President, Center for Emergent Diplomacy
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>
> Visiting Professor in Integrative Peacebuilding
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> Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
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Re: [FRIAM] Broadband in NM

2017-03-16 Thread Merle Lefkoff
Richard Lowenberg knows all.  r...@1st-mile.org

On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 12:37 PM, Robert J. Cordingley <
rob...@cirrillian.com> wrote:

> Does anyone local have any ideas/insight why the NM governor vetoed the
> LOCAL GOV'T BROADBAND INFRASTRUCTURE SB24 bill? Sour grapes?
>
> See http://us2.campaign-archive1.com/?u=d1faf3c75d2ac5da75ced6dd
> 5&id=130117cfbe&e=0bf456e615
>
> "The bill passed the Senate by a vote of 37-1 and passed unanimously
> out of the House of Representatives."
>
> Robert C
>
> --
> Cirrillian
> Web Design & Development
> Santa Fe, NM
> http://cirrillian.com
> 281-989-6272 (cell)
>
>
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Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

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Re: [FRIAM] Broadband in NM

2017-03-16 Thread Gillian Densmore
Martinez is a egotistical ass is why. She also jacked up the Rail Runner
and bullet trains.   How she's still govenor is a myster. Probably sour
grapes or persuing some agenda of her own. Force only knows what that is.

On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 12:37 PM, Robert J. Cordingley <
rob...@cirrillian.com> wrote:

> Does anyone local have any ideas/insight why the NM governor vetoed the
> LOCAL GOV'T BROADBAND INFRASTRUCTURE SB24 bill? Sour grapes?
>
> See http://us2.campaign-archive1.com/?u=d1faf3c75d2ac5da75ced6dd
> 5&id=130117cfbe&e=0bf456e615
>
> "The bill passed the Senate by a vote of 37-1 and passed unanimously
> out of the House of Representatives."
>
> Robert C
>
> --
> Cirrillian
> Web Design & Development
> Santa Fe, NM
> http://cirrillian.com
> 281-989-6272 (cell)
>
>
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Re: [FRIAM] Broadband in NM

2017-03-16 Thread Barry MacKichan
The ones who benefit from this veto would be the big companies such as 
Comcast and CenturyLink that are eager to preserve their monopolies. 
Other than that I have no insight (but would welcome that of others on 
this list).


--Barry


On 16 Mar 2017, at 12:37, Robert J. Cordingley wrote:

Does anyone local have any ideas/insight why the NM governor vetoed 
the LOCAL GOV'T BROADBAND INFRASTRUCTURE SB24 bill? Sour grapes?


See 
http://us2.campaign-archive1.com/?u=d1faf3c75d2ac5da75ced6dd5&id=130117cfbe&e=0bf456e615


"The bill passed the Senate by a vote of 37-1 and passed 
unanimously out of the House of Representatives."


Robert C

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