Ray,
Redfish.com is on a shared virtual host on hostgo.com. the Friam mailing
list is run by the python script Mailman (
http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/) with mailserver on paris.hostgo.com.
Google shouldn't be in the middle.
Doing a quick spot check of headers going back a year, the spam message
appears to be there. And the spam scores typically are reporting "clean"
with "Content analysis details: (-2.3 points, 5.0 required)". So it appears
that the filter is happy.
Why your message is getting garbled, I'm not sure. Perhaps something in the
Sandia Exchange server?
Is anyone else getting garbled messages?
-S
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stephen.gue...@redfish.com
1600 Lena St #D1, Santa Fe, NM 87505
office: (505) 995-0206 tollfree: (888) 414-3855
mobile: (505) 577-5828 fax: (505) 819-5952
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On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Parks, Raymond wrote:
> Is anybody else getting these weirdly mangled messages? A significant
> percentage of the messages from friam are being reported as possible spam.
> I am not sure, but I believe that I am not getting the original message.
>
> From my reading of the headers, it appears that google gets the mailing
> list message on behalf of friam@redfish.com (I'm assuming the redfish
> hosts their email on gmail). Google then sends it through
> paris.hostgo.com, which flags the email as possible spam and then sends
> it on to me via Sandia's corporate email. DNS whitelisting is cited as the
> source for identifying the originating sender as a past spam site. This
> happens with multiple participants on FRIAM, so I doubt that the actual
> person's address is the problem and dnswl.org confirmed that when I
> looked up Robert's personal domain. I also checked on redfish.com and
> you-all are not the problem. The only other domain involved at the point
> where the email passes through hostgo.com is google.com - so I don't
> understand what is being detected.
>
>Ray Parks
> Consilient Heuristician/IDART Program Manager
> V: 505-844-4024 M: 505-238-9359 P: 505-951-6084
> NIPR: rcpa...@sandia.gov
> SIPR: rcpar...@sandia.doe.sgov.gov (send NIPR reminder)
> JWICS: dopa...@doe.ic.gov (send NIPR reminder)
>
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> *From: *Robert Holmes
> *Subject: **[EXTERNAL] *
> *Date: *August 7, 2013 8:13:26 AM MDT
> *To: *The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
> friam@redfish.com>
> *Received: *from mailgate2.sandia.gov (132.175.109.4) by
> mail.sandia.gov(134.253.103.2) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.123.3; Wed,
> 7 Aug 2013
> 08:31:38 -0600
> *Received: *from sentry-two.sandia.gov (sentry-two.sandia.gov
> [132.175.109.14]) by mailgate2.sandia.gov (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id
> r77EVc9x013632; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 08:31:38 -0600
> *Received: *from fbdbrel05.localdomain
> (osmtp-mefxp.att-mail.com[12.131.129.86]) (using TLSv1 with cipher
> DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256
> bits)) (No client certificate requested) by sentry-two.sandia.gov(Postfix)
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> *X-Wss-Id: *0MR60CO-0B-12A-02
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> *X-Tmwd-Spam-Summary: *TS=20130807143136; ID=2; SEV=2.4.5;
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