[Full-disclosure] How a teenager helpfully reported a government security flaw – and could be charged in return

2014-01-23 Thread Ivan .Heca
In Australia, individuals who report critical security flaws face potential
legal action, while corporations who fail to report data breaches to paying
customers go unpunished

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/24/how-a-teenager-helpfully-reported-a-government-security-flaw-and-could-be-charged-in-return
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Re: [Full-disclosure] WordPress User Account Information Leak / Secunia Advisory SA23621

2013-07-04 Thread Ivan Carlos
Can't you open a new bt about this issue?

Regards,
Em 04/07/2013 10:16, Sven Kieske svenkie...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Hi,

 the mentioned User account Enumeration Weakness
 stated in Advisory https://secunia.com/advisories/23621/
 still exists in the actual version 3.5.2 .

 The corresponding trac entry for wordpress is closed as
 wontfix:
 https://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/1129

 Why?

 Maybe, because the trac bug mentions just version 1.5 as affected?

 I can easily reproduce this in version 3.5.2 .

 Please fix this, this bug is 8 years old!

 Kind Regards

 Sven Kieske

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Re: [Full-disclosure] Why PRISM kills the cloud | Computerworld Blogs

2013-06-12 Thread Ivan .Heca
Thw commercial espionage angle is another interesting aspect of this

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130611/10014923405/is-us-using-prism-to-engage-commercial-espionage-against-germany-others.shtml
On 13/06/2013 3:08 AM, Michael Hallgren m.hallg...@free.fr wrote:


 http://www.internetsociety.org/news/internet-society-statement-importance-open-global-dialogue-regarding-online-privacy

 mh

 Le 12/06/2013 16:05, William Reyor a écrit :
  * are protected -- fixed that for ya.
 
  - William Reyor
 
  On Jun 12, 2013, at 10:01 AM, laurent gaffie laurent.gaf...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  is protected
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Re: [Full-disclosure] Why PRISM kills the cloud | Computerworld Blogs

2013-06-11 Thread Ivan .Heca
Maybe all is forgiven if they discount enough

http://www.networkworld.com/news/2013/061113-google-amazon-cloud-270730.html?hpg1=bn
A Canadian and what appears to be a British subject discussing the not
so finer points of American legislation. I'm sure at some point the
irony will become apparent.

On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Philip Whitehouse phi...@whiuk.com wrote:

 Seems like some people spend way to much time focusing on the second
 amendment rather than the first one...

 Well this relates mainly to the fourth amendment, not the first. The first
 tends to get decent coverage. Publication of the leak by journalists is
the
 only under the realm of the first.

 Philip Whitehouse

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[Full-disclosure] Why PRISM kills the cloud | Computerworld Blogs

2013-06-10 Thread Ivan .Heca
http://m.blogs.computerworld.com/cloud-storage/22305/why-prism-kills-cloud
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Re: [Full-disclosure] Why PRISM kills the cloud | Computerworld Blogs

2013-06-10 Thread Ivan .Heca
A number of cloud provider business plans will need tweaking now
On 11/06/2013 11:30 AM, Jeffrey Walton noloa...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 9:15 PM, laurent gaffie
 laurent.gaf...@gmail.com wrote:
  Why is the Prims program such a big deal today?  Most of us  knew about
  echelon and the patriot act didn't we? This program was unconstitutional
 at
  the first place and should have raised indignation when it was approved
 at
  that time...
 +1.

 Below is my standard verbiage on clouds and backups to clouds.

 Jeff

 clouds and drop boxes. If you don’t want your data analyzed,
 inspected, shared, or mishandled, then don’t provide it in the first
 place. Data migration includes backups, so ensure you are using the
 proper attributes on your files. For Apple systems, the file should
 have kCFURLIsExcludedFromBackupKey file property or
 com.apple.MobileBackup extended attribute (see Technical QA QA1719
 for details). Android applications should add android:allowBackup on
 the application tag and set it to false in AndroidManifest.xml.
 Windows’ integrated cloud backup is new, and there’s currently no way
 for an application to back up to the cloud (and hence, no way to stop
 it).

 A layman’s analysis of License Agreements and Terms and Conditions
 will reveal how little security is afforded to your documents in cloud
 storage. For those who don’t read them, one popular platform has 142
 separate documents covering Terms of Conditions for its cloud
 alone.[18] The documents discuss your rights if the company (1) gives
 away your data, (2) shares you data with partners, (3) looses your
 data, (4) provides your data to authorities (sometimes without an
 order or warrant), (5) does not provide reasonable skill or care, (6)
 commits willful misconduct or fraud, and (7) acts with negligence or
 gross negligence. “Your rights” is misleading since it is consent, and
 the document effectively states you indemnify the company: “You agree
 to defend, indemnify and hold [company], its affiliates, subsidiaries,
 directors, officers, employees, agents, partners, contractors, and
 licensors harmless from any claim or demand, including reasonable
 attorneys’ fees, made by a third party.”[19]

 [18] iCloud Terms and Conditions,
 https://www.apple.com/legal/internet-services/icloud/ww/
 [19] iCLOUD TERMS AND CONDITIONS,
 https://www.apple.com/legal/internet-services/icloud/en/terms.html

  Le 2013-06-10 19:46, Ivan .Heca ivan...@gmail.com a écrit :
 
 
 http://m.blogs.computerworld.com/cloud-storage/22305/why-prism-kills-cloud
 

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Re: [Full-disclosure] cloudsafe365 for wordpress: file disclosure

2012-08-28 Thread Ivan Carlos
I suppose that's fixed, or they just disabled the plugin itselfon his wp

Ivan Carlos
CISO, Consultant
+55 (11) 98112-0666
www.icarlos.net

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From: full-disclosure-boun...@lists.grok.org.uk 
[mailto:full-disclosure-boun...@lists.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of Henri Salo
Sent: terça-feira, 28 de agosto de 2012 07:47
To: Christian Sciberras
Cc: full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] cloudsafe365 for wordpress: file disclosure

On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 11:00:25AM +0200, Christian Sciberras wrote:
 So this plugin supposedly helps securing a website?

I do not know anything about this plugin but at least we can coordinate the 
fixes or get the plugin disabled so that more people don't start using it.

- Henri Salo

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[Full-disclosure] Tech journalists: Stop hyping unproven security tools

2012-08-12 Thread Ivan .Heca
*Cui bono

*
http://paranoia.dubfire.net/2012/07/tech-journalists-stop-hyping-unproven.html?utm_source=Contextlyutm_medium=RelatedLinksutm_campaign=AroundWeb

ouch

http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2012/08/10/experts-idiots-war-security-165251/
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[Full-disclosure] hacking FB Ads

2012-08-01 Thread Ivan .Heca
interesting bit of research

“A couple months ago, when we were preparing to launch the new Limited Run,
we started to experiment with Facebook ads. Unfortunately, while testing
their ad system, we noticed some very strange things. Facebook was charging
us for clicks, yet we could only verify about 20% of them actually showing
up on our site. At first, we thought it was our analytics service. We tried
signing up for a handful of other big name companies, and still, we
couldn’t verify more than 15-20% of clicks. So we did what any good
developers would do. We built our own analytic software. Here’s what we
found: on about 80% of the clicks Facebook was charging us for, JavaScript
wasn’t on. And if the person clicking the ad doesn’t have JavaScript, it’s
very difficult for an analytics service to verify the click.

What’s important here is that in all of our years of experience, only about
1-2% of people coming to us have JavaScript disabled, not 80% like these
clicks coming from Facebook. So we did what any good developers would do.
We built a page logger. Any time a page was loaded, we’d keep track of it.
You know what we found? The 80% of clicks we were paying for were from
bots. That’s correct. Bots were loading pages and driving up our
advertising costs.”

http://techcrunch.com/2012/07/30/startup-claims-80-of-its-facebook-ad-clicks-are-coming-from-bots/

http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2012/07/31/latest-facebook-scandal-widespread-advertising-fraud-156521/
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[Full-disclosure] Congress Capitulates To TSA; Refuses To Let Bruce Schneier Testify

2012-03-26 Thread Ivan .Heca
http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/03/26/2221246/congress-capitulates-to-tsa-refuses-to-let-bruce-schneier-testify
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[Full-disclosure] Stakeout: how the FBI tracked and busted a Chicago Anon

2012-03-07 Thread Ivan .Heca
*Yesterday, we learned that one of the top members of LulzSec (Sabu) had
been an FBI informant for almost 6
monthshttp://tech.slashdot.org/story/12/03/06/1437241/lulzsec-leader-sabu-unmasked-arrested-and-caught-collaborating,
and that this confidant of the LulzSec leader 'anarchaos' had given the
feds what they needed to take him down. More details have come out
nowhttp://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/03/stakeout-how-the-fbi-tracked-and-busted-a-chicago-anon.ars,
completing a picture of how the sting took place from start to finish. It
turns out that even the server space given from Sabu to anarchaos storing
the details of 30,000 credit cards (from the Stratfor hack) had been funded
by the FBI.

*
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/03/stakeout-how-the-fbi-tracked-and-busted-a-chicago-anon.ars
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Re: [Full-disclosure] Full disclosure is arrest of Sabu

2012-03-06 Thread Ivan .Heca
http://gizmodo.com/5890825/lulzsec-leader-betrays-all-of-anonymous

On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Sanguinarious Rose 
sanguiner...@occultusterra.com wrote:

 lol, as far as I know she didn't accuse nenolod of a botnet, you did
 and said he built the botnet for her from what it looks like to me.
 Then you went on an epic lulz spree comparable to that of a retarded
 child trying to bit his ear calling it winning.

 Sorry, forgot to add FD in the to field

 On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Laurelai laure...@oneechan.org wrote:
  On 3/6/2012 5:32 PM, Sanguinarious Rose wrote:
  I raise you this: http://pastebin.com/R3AL0im6
 
  On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Laurelai laure...@oneechan.org wrote:
  On 3/6/2012 2:24 PM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote:
 
 
  2011/7/25 Laurelai Storm laure...@oneechan.org
  Oh and im not a part of lulzsec, FYI sabu tweeted 2 minutes ago wtf
 are
  you on about sir?
 
  maybe we could resurrect this thread. :)
 
  Sure lets.
 
  http://gizmodo.com/5890825/lulzsec-leader-betrays-all-of-anonymous
 
  Im going to paste my favorite part of this article.
 
  6:12:32 PM virus: I don't have proof of him being a snitch, and he
 doesn't
  have proof of me being a snitch. it's my word against his.
  6:15:39 PM virus: he disappeared for a week, I don't recall what day
  6:15:52 PM virus: but when he returned he said his grand mother died
 and
  that's why he was MIA
  6:16:01 PM virus: after that he started offering me money to own people
  6:16:14 PM Sam Biddle: anyone important?
  6:16:55 PM virus: backtrace security and laurelai
  6:17:22 PM virus: he gave me IPs, asked me to access their accounts
 with
  their IP and asked me to access their emails
  6:17:25 PM virus: told me he would pay me
  6:17:42 PM Sam Biddle: did you?
  6:17:53 PM virus: no, I found that to be suspicious and declined
 
  Sabu tried to pay someone to hack me and it didn't work, sabu also got
  caught because he connected to IRC one time with his real IP, so this
 proves
  what i said already, sabu hated me and i didn't know anything that the
 feds
  didn't already. For a supposed ring leader of a group of master cyber
  terrorists as the feds like to paint them they couldn't take down one
 loud
  mouthed trans woman on the internet. Hell even their ddos against my
  imageboard failed and i didn't even have cloudflare.
 
 
  And speaking of backtrace security here is Jen giving away government
  secrets to win internet points on reddit
 
  http://imgur.com/a/0g9VG
 
  Looks like Jen can't be trusted by anon or the feds.
 
 
 
 
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  Sorry sanguine i had too, i do feel bad about lying to you. I figured
  she would hear about it and she would go full retard on nenolod , and
  she did today. She can't help herself . This of course was great timing
  with the screenshots so im pretty sure her days as a fed contractor are
  over since her dumb ass accused the creator of dronebl of having a
 botnet.

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Re: [Full-disclosure] Carrier IQ for your phone

2011-12-13 Thread Ivan .Heca
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2011/12/carrier-iq-explains-what-it-does-with-your-data/

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 9:06 AM, coderman coder...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 4:14 AM, Alan J. Wylie
 shyyqvfpybf...@wylie.me.uk wrote:
  ...
  Interesting response from Carrier IQ in a long article on The Register:
 
  http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/12/02/carrier_iq_interview/


 interesting response from FBI in regards to Carrier IQ

 http://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/2011/dec/12/fbi-carrier-iq-files-used-law-enforcement-purposes/

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Re: [Full-disclosure] Carrier IQ for your phone

2011-12-13 Thread Ivan .Heca
another nice one

http://www.techdirt.com/blog/wireless/articles/20111213/00271717060/fbi-admits-that-it-uses-carrier-iq-law-enforcement-purposes-wont-say-how.shtml

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:19 AM, coderman coder...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Ivan .Heca ivan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2011/12/carrier-iq-explains-what-it-does-with-your-data/

 
 These logs [full debug, keylogging, etc.] are generated on phones sold
 with the Carrier IQ program preloaded but the company says it’s
 working with manufacturers and networks to adjust the certification
 process and turn off debugging messages when the phone is activated.
 

 what a convenient little bit to flip. debug mode on!
 anyone else found a way to toggle this remotely? :)

 also fun:
  https://collector.iota.spcsdns.net:10003/collector/
 anyone got a list of other iq collector URLs?

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[Full-disclosure] Researchers Uncover 'Massive Security Flaws' In Amazon Cloud

2011-11-06 Thread Ivan .
http://www.crn.com/news/cloud/231901911/researchers-uncover-massive-security-flaws-in-amazon-cloud.htm;jsessionid=kT0u8aBKblF5Y14-kIidtA**.ecappj03
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Re: [Full-disclosure] [OT] Obama said: American people understand that not everybody's been following the rules

2011-10-16 Thread Ivan .
15 Mind-Blowing Facts About Wealth And Inequality In America
http://www.businessinsider.com/facts-about-inequality-in-america-2011-11?op=1

On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Laurelai laure...@oneechan.org wrote:

  On 10/14/2011 8:21 PM, Christian Sciberras wrote:

 You think I'm biting that?

  Skinny and under-age  is just about everything you could come up with.
 Congrats for creativity.

  Just because two of you decided you found common grounds for insult
 doesn't mean you're god-almighty-indisputably-right in every piece of shit
 you come up with. Did I mention it's shit?

  With that, I give you one, you have a point, I should have stopped
 responding ever since some guy decided to equate a couple dozen of people
 into America's 1%.

  Strange, thought security guys would have been better with numbers...






 On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 2:32 AM, Laurelai laure...@oneechan.org wrote:

   On 10/14/2011 6:32 PM, xD 0x41 wrote:

 Cristiano , per favor' mi dai dieci minuti scusa mi ma, e' essentiale ..
 You really dont realise how much, you attack others when they post,
 NOMATTER what the topic... yet you are still wondering why somany people
 seem to despise your skinny little nerdy ass... well, nerdy isnt bad, but,
 your a downright lookalike for mr.Bean aka rowan atkinson. You could maybe
 do his stunts, to ?
 Your the one who is usually abusing others, before the finality wich is
 simply adults not reesponding, to the baby whos crying out for more
 aarguements.
 You should stfu, and learn more, you assume to know all, in every post,
 your the brain, yet you are lame, i looked everything up abiout you, and
 yes, go ahead, and setup a nice wordpress secure setting, php wise to,  then
 yes, id maybe hink your atleast a halfwit ;)
 Anyhow, your basically a tr0ll, and, you seem to keep goading, even AFTER
 the others, have completely stopped responding to you, simply because,
 Laurelai was right, why would anyone want to keep up a thread wich has now
 turned malign, as i forsaw a week ago, but, i did not think it would even
 make a week, People like you, keep inspiring the flame to burn brighter..
 wich to me, is nastier than any *abuse* names, wich, you clearly have not
 counted howmany times you have actually called others, some form of rude
 name/word/personal attack.
 Maybe when you GROW UP, and behave as an adult, then I would assume the
 list will start to hear you, even through the bs.
 Anyhow, i applaud you, for *coming out* as to say, I mean, putting your
 pic up, like that, mate, you could be a pornstar! what you doin online
 :P~~~bahahaha
 go back to grade.2 then repeate it, then move on... then, if you work out
 how to call 911, call someone who gives a shit.
 Idiotic kid, grow the hell up.
 xd--

 // IND SEC CONSILTANT FOR Yep yep Security (simply coz it sounds good) YEP
 YEP for all your Hat attire needs!

 On 15 October 2011 08:57, Christian Sciberras uuf6...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yeah, let's just all ignore low insults. The world would be a much better
 place without them and whoever said them in the first place...








 On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:02 PM, Laurelai laure...@oneechan.orgwrote:

   On 10/14/2011 2:25 PM, Christian Sciberras wrote:

 Resorting to personal attacks? Nice.

  Technical skills in what? Running a wordpress blog? Defacing a
 website? Growing pot?

  I rarely publicise any materials, most of the time I just tell whoever
 is responsible to do a fix.
 I'm not really running after publicity, unlike you guys.
 Also note that I never said I'm a seasoned hacker... in fact, my
 occupation is quite on the opposite side of the spectrum...

  You also seem to know more than I do what the Ubuntu VM I have
 contains.

  But that must make all the difference! I mean, people that don't know
 qubits from bits shouldn't be allowed in such discussions
 (of course there's wikipedia...)




 On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Georgi Guninski gunin...@guninski.com
  wrote:

 Christian Sciberras,

 I have trouble judging your technical skills - all I have seen is bad
 smalltalk.

 Do you have any technical publications you can share so I can judge?

 btw, the best i found was you could could reproduce a bug in a CMS and
 in addition you can't tell root from user password on vanilla ubuntu.

 --
 joro

 On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 02:11:13AM +0200, Christian Sciberras wrote:
   So if they cause damage for profit that makes it ok?
 
  No. But it's certainly better than doing damage without profit.
 Making
  profit means that at the end of the day, the money's going to go
 somewhere
  further in the chain.
  Flattening a tower, for instance, or attacking the local bank that
 refused
  to give you a loan because of the time you spent in a cell, isn't as
  productive.
  Neither is it making a company loose clients/profit just because they
  decided they don't want you to use their services (as if you did have
 a
  right in the first place...).
 
   And yes I acknowledge the American public has a 

[Full-disclosure] Meet the Guy Who Snitched on Occupy Wall Street to the FBI and NYPD

2011-10-16 Thread Ivan .
http://gawker.com/5850054/meet-the-guy-who-snitched-on-occupy-wall-street-to-the-fbi-and-nypd
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[Full-disclosure] Two Remote Code Execution Vulnerabilities in Internet Explorer

2011-10-13 Thread Ivan Fratric
###
Vulnerability 1: Internet Explorer Select Element Remote Code Execution
###

Original advisory:
http://ifsec.blogspot.com/2011/10/internet-explorer-select-element-remote.html

I. OVERVIEW

There is a vulnerability in Internet Explorer which enables execution
of arbitrary code if the user visits a web page controlled by the
attacker. The vulnerability is caused by incorrectly validating
integer parameter passed to the 'add' method of the Select HTML
element. This vulnerability has been observed in Internet Explorer 8.
The vulnerability has been patched by Microsoft on October 11, 2011.

II. THE BUG

The bug is caused by incorrectly validating integer parameter passed
to the 'add' method of the Select HTML element under certain
conditions. The 'add' method of the Select HTML element is used to add
an Option to the Select element. It accepts two parameters:
1. An Option object to be added
2. An integer, specifying the index of the new Option element
Under certain conditions, the second parameter is not properly
validated, which can lead to corrupting memory at arbitrary address
and, in turn, code execution.

III. IMPACT

The vulnerability can be used to execute arbitrary code in the context
of the currently logged in user if the user visits a specially crafted
web page. JavaScript needs to be enabled in order for the attacker to
be able to exploit the vulnerability (it is enabled by default in all
versions of Internet Explorer).

IV. PoC

A PoC exploit that demonstrates reliable code execution on Internet
Explorer 8 on Windows 7 SP1 has been developed. The release of the
exploit code is planned on a later date, once everyone has had plenty
of time to patch.
However, the description of the method that was used to bypass ASLR
and otherwise enable reliable code execution can be found here:
http://ifsec.blogspot.com/2011/06/memory-disclosure-technique-for.html

V. REFERENCES

http://ifsec.blogspot.com/2011/10/internet-explorer-select-element-remote.html
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/security/bulletin/ms11-081
http://www.cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2011-1999
http://www.zerodayinitiative.com/advisories/published/


###
Vulnerability 2: Internet Explorer Option Element Remote Code Execution
###

Original advisory:
http://ifsec.blogspot.com/2011/10/internet-explorer-option-element-remote.html

I. OVERVIEW

There is a vulnerability in Internet Explorer which enables execution
of arbitrary code if the user visits a web page controlled by the
attacker. The vulnerability is caused by an use-after-free bug
triggered by accessing a previously deleted Option element. This
vulnerability has been observed in Internet Explorer versions 6, 7 and
8. The vulnerability has been patched by Microsoft on October 11,
2011.

II. THE BUG

In Internet Explorer, the implementation of Select HTML element
contains an array of pointers to the Option elements the Select
element contains. This array is called the Option cache. Normally,
whenever an Option element inside a Select element is accessed via
JavaScript, Option cache is rebuilt, thus ensuring its consistency.
However, there are some JavaScript methods that can be used to delete
and modify the Option elements contained inside the Select element
without rebuilding the Option cache. In combination, these methods
enable modifying a previously deleted Option element.

III. IMPACT

The vulnerability can be used to execute arbitrary code in the context
of the currently logged in user if the user visits a specially crafted
web page. JavaScript needs to be enabled in order for the attacker to
be able to exploit the vulnerability (it is enabled by default in all
versions of Internet Explorer).

IV. PoC

A PoC exploit that demonstrates code execution has been developed.
However, due to the severity of the vulnerability, release of the
exploit code is not planned at this time.

V. REFERENCES

http://ifsec.blogspot.com/2011/10/internet-explorer-option-element-remote.html
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/security/bulletin/ms11-081
http://www.cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2011-1996
http://www.zerodayinitiative.com/advisories/published/

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Re: [Full-disclosure] Possible German Governmental Backdoor found (R2D2)

2011-10-13 Thread Ivan .
interesting

*DigiTask Remote Forensic Spyware *

http://cryptome.org/0005/michaelthomas.pdf

On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:38 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:

 On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:44:32 PDT, Andrew Wallace said:
  No, they started moderating the list January 2009.
 
  ---
 
 
  Andrew Wallace
 
  Independent consultant
 
  www.n3td3v.org.uk
 
 
 
  
  From: Byron Sonne byron.so...@gmail.com
  To: full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk
  Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 10:33 PM
  Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Possible German Governmental Backdoor
 found (R2D2)
 
  I thought this was an unmoderated list? It appears my submission has
  been held back.

 To clarify:  the list itself is (to the best of my knowledge), in fact
 *not*
 moderated, which involves somebody actually looking at all postings and
 doing a yes/
 no check on the enclosed content.

 That is *different* from *certain user addresses* being set to permanent
 moderation status.

 There's unfortunately some people that are still fuzzy on the difference,
 and
 some that insist on conflating the two.

 https://www.gnu.org/s/mailman/mailman-admin/node22.html

 tl;dr: No, the list isn't moderated, Andrew is (and other individuals may
 or
 may not be at any given time).

 Byron: Having said that, I have no idea what delayed your original posting
 to
 the list.  Your follow-up appears to have cleared the list in about 6
 seconds
 from arrival to queued for delivery, so was almost certainly unmoderated.


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Re: [Full-disclosure] [OT] Obama said: American people understand that not everybody's been following the rules

2011-10-13 Thread Ivan .
don't feed the trolls

http://whatreallyhappened.com/

On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Laurelai laure...@oneechan.org wrote:

  On 10/13/2011 7:11 PM, Christian Sciberras wrote:

  So if they cause damage for profit that makes it ok?

  No. But it's certainly better than doing damage without profit. Making
 profit means that at the end of the day, the money's going to go somewhere
 further in the chain.
 Flattening a tower, for instance, or attacking the local bank that refused
 to give you a loan because of the time you spent in a cell, isn't as
 productive.
 Neither is it making a company loose clients/profit just because they
 decided they don't want you to use their services (as if you did have a
 right in the first place...).

 So by your logic the civil disobedience that helped sparked the
 revolutionary war is worse than if someone had done the same acts just to
 drive up tea prices? Again I also remind you the trickle down theory doesn't
 work


   And yes I acknowledge the American public has a measure of
 responsibility in the situation too, human beings are by nature imperfect,
 but the largest share of responsibility lies with the names listed below.

  The largest share? I can see Ex-president Bush trying to sell you a
 bottle of beer for $10 dollars ($7 profit). Wait, I can't.

  But we did see him increase deregulation and allow this to happen, we
 also saw him provoke a war with another country based on a known lie for the
 sole purpose of gaining resources and more control in the middle east. We
 saw him legalize torture and saw him strip away a good chunk of our civil
 liberties so the anti terror industry could make a buck. But like you said
 its ok since someone is making money off of it. Who needs civil liberties
 anyways right?

  That sort of thing has happened to me and I paid back every dime of it,
 most people are decent human beings and would do the same.

  Most people? I could have sworn 90% of the people in the NYC subway would
 thank $deity if you suddenly dropped dead so they could get things off you.
 Call me cynical, but I wouldn't trust anyone else in such cases, other than
 myself.

  Frankly 90% of people on this list would just thank $deity i suddenly
 dropped dead regardless of how much stuff i had :)


  Regarding that list of yours, great! Now we just need a little more
 effort. For each of those persons, please enlighten us as to what they did
 legally wrong.
 Of course, the people that landed in jail shouldn't be counted. The 99%
 protest is a modern one committed to change, it just can't right wrongs by
 pointing at jailed people.


 http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877339,00.html



 On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 11:35 PM, Laurelai laure...@oneechan.org wrote:

  On 10/13/2011 9:18 AM, Christian Sciberras wrote:

 I simply acknowledge the fact that some people work hard to get obscenely
 rich, but I just can't stand people that cause damage for the fun of it.

   So if they cause damage for profit that makes it ok?

  Yes, I stick for everyone that minds his business, instead of ruining
 others' for the fun of it.

  What bothers me is the fact that those hypocrites (protesters) are
 crying out loud against some people they're highly envious of with the
 excuse of the depression.
 Well, here's the news; the famous depression has been brought about by
 these same people!


  And yes I acknowledge the American public has a measure of responsibility
 in the situation too, human beings are by nature imperfect, but the largest
 share of responsibility lies with the names listed below.




  If someone above is collecting free money because of incentives for
 people to spend money (and which seem to work well), I can't blame him.

   Yes because trickle down theory worked *so* well

  How many times in your life have you paid back something you received by
 mistake and which wasn't yours?
 While I would foremost applaud anyone that would right such a wrong, I
 just can't ignore the fact that those people out there representing the
 99% are big-time hypocrites.

  That sort of thing has happened to me and I paid back every dime of it,
 most people are decent human beings and would do the same.


  On a different argument, since you seem to know well enough how some of
 the 1% are doing immoral things, why don't you start by handing out names
 instead of talking air just as the 99% crowd has been doing up till now?

  *Alan Greenspan, chairman of US Federal Reserve 1987- 2006
 **Mervyn King, governor of the Bank of England
 **Bill Clinton, former US president*
 *Gordon Brown, prime minister*
 *George W Bush, former US president*
 *Senator Phil Gramm
 **Abby Cohen, Goldman Sachs chief US strategist
 **Kathleen Corbet, former CEO, Standard  Poor's
 **Hank Greenberg, AIG insurance group
 **Andy Hornby, former HBOS boss
 **Steve Crawshaw, former BB boss
 **Adam Applegarth, former Northern Rock boss
 **Dick Fuld, Lehman Brothers chief 

Re: [Full-disclosure] [OT] the nigger said: American people understand that not everybody's been following the rules

2011-10-12 Thread Ivan .
fast and furious
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IC2C2lIwNSA

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Christian Sciberras uuf6...@gmail.comwrote:

 Darren's and indeed many other people's lame excuse is that they're too
 humble to be greedy. As if!
 If anything, most people are greedier than that 1%. The only difference is
 that people are bad at it, unlike that 1%.

 Just consider the fact that Average Joe would be just too happy to evade
 tax.
 Richer Joe, instead, might be doing the same with his $1bn business.
 In both cases, they're breaking the law.

 The occupy wallstreet movement is simply hypocrisy.

 Did I happen to mention that I'm far from rich? In the coming years, I'll
 be struggling to get my own drop of land.
 The only unfair part I see is people complaining while buying iPads and
 iCrap over Facebook, Twitter etc..


 On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Jeffrey Walton noloa...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Darren Martyn
 d.martyn.fulldisclos...@gmail.com wrote:
  Chris - Empathy, guilt, and morals. Guilt being a major factor. The
  possibility was always there to make millions via evil means, but morals
 and
  knowing it would be hard to live with.
 
  The problem is not getting lots of money. That is the easy part. The
 issue
  is with living with yourself afterward.
 How about illegal? Check out the Hobbs Act [1]. I'm not making this
 crap up - the US has laws on the books for negatively affecting
 commerce (which the crash did), and using fear to peddle their warez
 (how financial institutions market their instruments). There's
 probably provisions in the PATRIOT Act, too.

 The last tine I checked (about a year ago), the SEC had opened fewer
 than 100 civil investigations. No criminal investigations, despite the
 fact that some of the financial institutions created spurious ratings
 companies just to rate their instruments 'good'.

 Jeff

 [1]
 http://www.justice.gov/usao/eousa/foia_reading_room/usam/title9/131mcrm.htm

  On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 12:43 AM, Bob Dobbs bobd10...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Jeffrey Walton noloa...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Who are the real threats to the US: terrorist who try to dream up ways
  to do the US harm, or Corporate and Congress which does the US harm?
 
  I hate to contribute to an off-topic thread but you've successfully
  trolled me here: Congress has done FAR more harm to the US than
 terrorists
  over the last 10 years by just about every measure.

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Re: [Full-disclosure] [OT] Obama said: American people understand that not everybody's been following the rules

2011-10-12 Thread Ivan .
http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/fast-and-furious-22-shocking-facts-about-the-scandal-that-could-bring-down-the-obama-administration

On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 10:33 AM, David Alanis can...@dalan.us wrote:

 Quoting Paul Schmehl pschmehl_li...@tx.rr.com:

  The thing these stupid people don't seem to get is that millionaires
  and billionaires are the only ones that can afford to move elsewhere.

 You're an idiot.

 If you think that Obama is a Muslim, that Obama care will bring upon
 death panels, that Obama is a socialist, and that all millionaires and
 billionaires (including Thor), will move out just because they're
 called upon to pay more taxes and help America out of debt, you're an
 idiot.

 Please don't call me *stupid* just because you disagree with me
 politically.

 If you're not a millionaire or billionaire, how *would you know* that
 the 1% are packing getting ready to move?

 Did you pick this up from Fox News?

 (I won't respond to any of your response, I am done with this silly thread)

  Tax them enough and they'll simply move to another country.  That's
  already what's happening with corporations and with some individuals.
  As their tax load increases, the incentive to simply move gets greater
  and greater until one day they do.  Then their tax load goes to zero
  and the money is gone forever.
 
  We've already seen these within the US, where millionaires are leaving
  CA and NY for greener pastures.  If they leave the US entirely, they
  won't be back.  Then who will the government get the money from?
 
  --On October 12, 2011 8:31:34 PM + Thor (Hammer of God)
  t...@hammerofgod.com wrote:
 
  Well, you said nor do I care so I too am confused.   However, since
 you
  did ask, there is an important aspect to your retort that you seem ok
  with dancing over, and that is the fact the taxing millionaires and
  billionaires would be *additional* taxes.   Mine won't go down, and in
  fact, will probably go up.   And I guarantee, without question and as
  definitely as the sun will rise tomorrow, when whatever x population
 is
  taxed more, and whatever resolution these people think will come from
  all of this noise, that they will CONTINUE to bitch and moan when other
  people have more than they do.
 
  The premise of I am the 99% or your use of average is specious.
  Average what?  Income?  No, that can't be it.  Education?  No, that's
  clearly not it.  Average tax payer?  Certainly not.   Average person
  bitching about how they don't have what they want and think it should
  magically be given to them?  Well, that's more like it, isn't it?
 
  The entire movement is a waste of time, and the let them eat cake-ers
  will find that out, as they always do, when they become the ones that
  have to start baking.
 
  The reason I posted the link is because it's freaking FUNNY to call out
  the ME-TOO'S!  Now if you'll excuse me, I must get back to my job so
 that
  I can try to afford the taxes taken out.
 
  t
 
  -Original Message-
  From: full-disclosure-boun...@lists.grok.org.uk [mailto:
 full-disclosure-
  boun...@lists.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of David Alanis
  Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:19 PM
  To: full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk
  Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] [OT] Obama said: American people
  understand that not everybody's been following the rules
 
  Quoting Thor (Hammer of God) t...@hammerofgod.com:
 
  No, it goes to show you how much most of the people bitching about
  all of this are full of shit, as per the oldie but goodie Holiday
  in Cambodia by the Dead Kennedy's.
 
  The people who REALLY need help are not the ones sitting around all
  day posting shite on the internet.
 
  I don't know where you're getting at or what political stance you take
  nor do I care.
 
  If you don't think the people who are protesting against the greed of
  wall street are average Americans, then you need help.
 
  Tell us then, since you cared enough to post a link trying to discredit
  the anti- wall-street movement based on exifs. Who are the people who
  need the help?
 
  Corporations? Cause I've heard opposing arguments by *average*
  Americans that corporations are people.
 
  Last time I checked, Obama's Job Act gives even more tax breaks to
  companies and extends unemployment benefits to *Americans* with out
  jobs by taxing millionaires and billionaires.
 
  You have me confused.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: full-disclosure-boun...@lists.grok.org.uk
  [mailto:full-disclosure- boun...@lists.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of
  David Alanis
  Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 10:21 AM
  To: full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk
  Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] [OT] Obama said: American people
  understand that not everybody's been following the rules
 
  Quoting Thor (Hammer of God) t...@hammerofgod.com:
 
   I saw this on FB and thought I would pass it along:
   http://99percentexif.tumblr.com/
  
   It's the exif data from the photos the 99%'ers are 

Re: [Full-disclosure] [OT] Obama said: American people understand that not everybody's been following the rules

2011-10-12 Thread Ivan .
http://www.businessinsider.com/what-wall-street-protesters-are-so-angry-about-2011-10?op=1

On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Ivan . ivan...@gmail.com wrote:


 http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/fast-and-furious-22-shocking-facts-about-the-scandal-that-could-bring-down-the-obama-administration


 On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 10:33 AM, David Alanis can...@dalan.us wrote:

 Quoting Paul Schmehl pschmehl_li...@tx.rr.com:

  The thing these stupid people don't seem to get is that millionaires
  and billionaires are the only ones that can afford to move elsewhere.

 You're an idiot.

 If you think that Obama is a Muslim, that Obama care will bring upon
 death panels, that Obama is a socialist, and that all millionaires and
 billionaires (including Thor), will move out just because they're
 called upon to pay more taxes and help America out of debt, you're an
 idiot.

 Please don't call me *stupid* just because you disagree with me
 politically.

 If you're not a millionaire or billionaire, how *would you know* that
 the 1% are packing getting ready to move?

 Did you pick this up from Fox News?

 (I won't respond to any of your response, I am done with this silly
 thread)

  Tax them enough and they'll simply move to another country.  That's
  already what's happening with corporations and with some individuals.
  As their tax load increases, the incentive to simply move gets greater
  and greater until one day they do.  Then their tax load goes to zero
  and the money is gone forever.
 
  We've already seen these within the US, where millionaires are leaving
  CA and NY for greener pastures.  If they leave the US entirely, they
  won't be back.  Then who will the government get the money from?
 
  --On October 12, 2011 8:31:34 PM + Thor (Hammer of God)
  t...@hammerofgod.com wrote:
 
  Well, you said nor do I care so I too am confused.   However, since
 you
  did ask, there is an important aspect to your retort that you seem ok
  with dancing over, and that is the fact the taxing millionaires and
  billionaires would be *additional* taxes.   Mine won't go down, and in
  fact, will probably go up.   And I guarantee, without question and as
  definitely as the sun will rise tomorrow, when whatever x population
 is
  taxed more, and whatever resolution these people think will come from
  all of this noise, that they will CONTINUE to bitch and moan when other
  people have more than they do.
 
  The premise of I am the 99% or your use of average is specious.
  Average what?  Income?  No, that can't be it.  Education?  No, that's
  clearly not it.  Average tax payer?  Certainly not.   Average person
  bitching about how they don't have what they want and think it should
  magically be given to them?  Well, that's more like it, isn't it?
 
  The entire movement is a waste of time, and the let them eat cake-ers
  will find that out, as they always do, when they become the ones that
  have to start baking.
 
  The reason I posted the link is because it's freaking FUNNY to call out
  the ME-TOO'S!  Now if you'll excuse me, I must get back to my job so
 that
  I can try to afford the taxes taken out.
 
  t
 
  -Original Message-
  From: full-disclosure-boun...@lists.grok.org.uk [mailto:
 full-disclosure-
  boun...@lists.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of David Alanis
  Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:19 PM
  To: full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk
  Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] [OT] Obama said: American people
  understand that not everybody's been following the rules
 
  Quoting Thor (Hammer of God) t...@hammerofgod.com:
 
  No, it goes to show you how much most of the people bitching about
  all of this are full of shit, as per the oldie but goodie Holiday
  in Cambodia by the Dead Kennedy's.
 
  The people who REALLY need help are not the ones sitting around all
  day posting shite on the internet.
 
  I don't know where you're getting at or what political stance you take
  nor do I care.
 
  If you don't think the people who are protesting against the greed of
  wall street are average Americans, then you need help.
 
  Tell us then, since you cared enough to post a link trying to
 discredit
  the anti- wall-street movement based on exifs. Who are the people who
  need the help?
 
  Corporations? Cause I've heard opposing arguments by *average*
  Americans that corporations are people.
 
  Last time I checked, Obama's Job Act gives even more tax breaks to
  companies and extends unemployment benefits to *Americans* with out
  jobs by taxing millionaires and billionaires.
 
  You have me confused.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: full-disclosure-boun...@lists.grok.org.uk
  [mailto:full-disclosure- boun...@lists.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of
  David Alanis
  Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 10:21 AM
  To: full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk
  Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] [OT] Obama said: American people
  understand that not everybody's been following the rules
 
  Quoting Thor (Hammer of God) t

Re: [Full-disclosure] [OT] the nigger said: American people understand that not everybody's been following the rules

2011-10-12 Thread Ivan .
Welcome to Ameristan

majority of street lights have been removed from one Michigan city that was
having trouble paying its electricity bill
http://12160.info/profiles/blogs/majority-of-street-lights-have-been-removed-from-one-michigan-cit

Colorado empties popular lake to pay its water bill
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/8816656/Colorado-empties-popular-lake-to-pay-its-water-bill.html

and so on. Your tax $$$ go to bailouts


On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Ivan . ivan...@gmail.com wrote:

 fast and furious
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IC2C2lIwNSA


 On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Christian Sciberras uuf6...@gmail.comwrote:

 Darren's and indeed many other people's lame excuse is that they're too
 humble to be greedy. As if!
 If anything, most people are greedier than that 1%. The only difference is
 that people are bad at it, unlike that 1%.

 Just consider the fact that Average Joe would be just too happy to evade
 tax.
 Richer Joe, instead, might be doing the same with his $1bn business.
 In both cases, they're breaking the law.

 The occupy wallstreet movement is simply hypocrisy.

 Did I happen to mention that I'm far from rich? In the coming years, I'll
 be struggling to get my own drop of land.
 The only unfair part I see is people complaining while buying iPads and
 iCrap over Facebook, Twitter etc..


 On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Jeffrey Walton noloa...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Darren Martyn
 d.martyn.fulldisclos...@gmail.com wrote:
  Chris - Empathy, guilt, and morals. Guilt being a major factor. The
  possibility was always there to make millions via evil means, but
 morals and
  knowing it would be hard to live with.
 
  The problem is not getting lots of money. That is the easy part. The
 issue
  is with living with yourself afterward.
 How about illegal? Check out the Hobbs Act [1]. I'm not making this
 crap up - the US has laws on the books for negatively affecting
 commerce (which the crash did), and using fear to peddle their warez
 (how financial institutions market their instruments). There's
 probably provisions in the PATRIOT Act, too.

 The last tine I checked (about a year ago), the SEC had opened fewer
 than 100 civil investigations. No criminal investigations, despite the
 fact that some of the financial institutions created spurious ratings
 companies just to rate their instruments 'good'.

 Jeff

 [1]
 http://www.justice.gov/usao/eousa/foia_reading_room/usam/title9/131mcrm.htm

  On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 12:43 AM, Bob Dobbs bobd10...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Jeffrey Walton noloa...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Who are the real threats to the US: terrorist who try to dream up
 ways
  to do the US harm, or Corporate and Congress which does the US harm?
 
  I hate to contribute to an off-topic thread but you've successfully
  trolled me here: Congress has done FAR more harm to the US than
 terrorists
  over the last 10 years by just about every measure.

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Re: [Full-disclosure] [OT] Obama said: American people understand that not everybody's been following the rules

2011-10-12 Thread Ivan .
do your own research, read your own shit, make your own decisions


2011/10/13 夜神 岩男 supergiantpot...@yahoo.co.jp

 On 10/13/2011 08:53 AM, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
  On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 7:47 PM, Ivan .ivan...@gmail.com  wrote:
 
 http://www.businessinsider.com/what-wall-street-protesters-are-so-angry-about-2011-10?op=1
 
  Very nice.
 
  All the pictures make it very easy to take in quickly. It should help
  those who don't want to take a detailed look at the issues. If I could
  only get it on my etch-a-sketch
 
  Jeff
 

 Funny how accurate your statement is about those who don't want to take
 a detailed look at the issues. Those are the ones making all the noise.

 I would like to draw your attention to the Featured Comment at the
 bottom of the article. It is spot on and a critical counterpoint.

 The entire article is full of leading indicators and trailing
 indicators, but arguing them as if their meaning were reversed. The most
 interesting part about all this is looking at them with an eye to
 predictive analysis. The charts show that we are not in uncharted
 territory, and that corporate profits in a down season is a leading
 indicator in a sharp reduction in unemployment (that is, job creation)
 and another prolonged boom cycle. This will eventually be interrupted by
 a sharp, short recession, like the one now. The charts used in this
 article do tell a story, and its not the one the whole 99%/1% argument
 crowd is about.

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Re: [Full-disclosure] [OT] the nigger said: American people understand that not everybody's been following the rules

2011-10-06 Thread Ivan .
MSNBC labels AP ‘inherently racist’ for accurate translation of Obama speech
http://investmentwatchblog.com/msnbc-labels-ap-inherently-racist-for-accurate-translation-of-obama-speech/

some 1% on the list

*Chicago Traders Respond To Protesters With Signs Reading ‘We Are The
1%’http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/10/05/336590/chicago-protests-we-are-1-percent/|
* The Occupy Wall Street movement spread to Chicago this week, where
protesters have gathered outside the Chicago Board of Trade, the world’s
oldest options and futures trading center. Like the protesters in New York
and other cities around the country, the group gathered to protest our
nation’s growing income
inequalityhttp://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/05/04/163476/us-unequal-uganda-pakistan/,
as the top 1 percent of Americans continue to see their incomes rise
rapidlyhttp://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/04/18/159261/tax-disparity-chart/and
their tax rates fall. The Chicago traders, confronted by the
protesters’
“We are the 99 percent http://wearethe99percent.tumblr.com/” message,
crafted their own not-so-subtle reply, hanging signs in eighth-floor windows
that said, “We are the
1%http://chicagoist.com/2011/10/05/board_of_trade_has_a_message_for_oc.php
“:



On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 9:13 AM, xD 0x41 sec...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hrm very good point there.
 It is obviously monitored, but really, would the mnitors, even get involved
 in things... i dont know if that is just part of how to stay under, but
 could be.
 I do not know how mi5/6 works but, i have heard rumors, that he is wsome
 form of undercover something... wich is kinda cool with me.I would prefer to
 know that, or even think that, than think he is a bad guy and, just being an
 arse because he can be...
 i would love some independant input from people who are working as
 operatives, as Valdis said,it is good to see these peoples input, especially
 on some topics like ITsec and exploits/pocs and anything wondeful in this
 area.
 I know i am fine with that but, amazing to howmany actual results point at
 n3td3v as this... i certainly wont be using crazycoders.com/.us for any
 posts for n3td3v,but sertainly other peoples blogs, are full of him/he ?
 Anyhow.. enough for me, cappucino time.
 cheers,
 xd


 On 7 October 2011 08:59, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:

 On Thu, 06 Oct 2011 14:25:18 PDT, andrew.wallace said:

  MI6 operative - I didn't know you delt in conspiracy. My web page
 clearly
  states independent.

 Which is exactly what it *would* say if you were an undercover operative.

 http://www.google.com/search?q=n3td3v+mi5
 http://www.google.com/search?q=n3td3v+mi6
 http://www.google.com/search?q=andrew+wallace+mi5
 http://www.google.com/search?q=andrew+wallace+mi6

 Certainly a lot of history there.

 In any case, whether or not you're an MI6 operative, if the list *is* for
 national security advisors, isn't it silly for you to try to shut it down
 because
 of your anti-disclosure stance?



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[Full-disclosure] VPN provider helped track down alleged LulzSec member

2011-09-26 Thread Ivan .
http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/VPN-provider-helped-track-down-alleged-LulzSec-member-1349666.html
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Re: [Full-disclosure] Vulnerabilities in GlobalWoW

2011-09-01 Thread Ivan Carlos
C'mon... isn't that (gaming non-licensed server over a patented application) 
illegal?

Reporting vulns on counterfeit applications is useless.

Ivan Carlos
CISO, Consultant
+55 (11) 8112-0666
www.icarlos.net

-Original Message-
From: full-disclosure-boun...@lists.grok.org.uk 
[mailto:full-disclosure-boun...@lists.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of MustLive
Sent: quarta-feira, 31 de agosto de 2011 17:44
To: submissi...@packetstormsecurity.org; full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk
Subject: [Full-disclosure] Vulnerabilities in GlobalWoW

Hello list!

I want to warn you about Insufficient Anti-automation and Denial of Service 
vulnerabilities in GlobalWoW. Also GlobalWow can be included in ArcEmu and WOW 
Emulator Server.

This is the last of few advisories which I've made in April 2010. In this 
advisory I'm continue to inform readers of mailing lists about vulnerable web 
applications which are using CaptchaSecurityImages.php.

-
Affected products:
-

Vulnerable are GlobalWow 3.0.9 and previous versions (and potentially next 
versions).

Also the next products are affected: ArcEmu and WOW Emulator Server with which 
GlobalWow can be bundled.

I've already wrote last year the recommendations about fixing these issues in 
another my advisory concerning vulnerable web application with 
CaptchaSecurityImages.php. As I wrote earlier 
(http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/511023), developers of 
CaptchaSecurityImages.php fixed this hole at 27.03.2007. So one of the way to 
fix these issues is to use fixed version of the script or to make appropriate 
changes in com_bookman's version of the script.

--
Details:
--

These are Insufficient Anti-automation and Denial of Service vulnerabilities.

The vulnerabilities exist in captcha script CaptchaSecurityImages.php, which is 
using in this system. I already wrote at my site about vulnerabilities in 
CaptchaSecurityImages (http://websecurity.com.ua/4043/).

Insufficient Anti-automation (WASC-21):

http://site/acs/CaptchaSecurityImages.php?width=150height=100characters=2

Captcha bypass is possible as via half-automated or automated (with using of
OCR) methods, which were mentioned before (http://websecurity.com.ua/4043/),
as with using of session reusing with constant captcha bypass method 
(http://websecurity.com.ua/1551/), which was described in project Month of Bugs 
in Captchas.

DoS (WASC-10):

http://site/acs/CaptchaSecurityImages.php?width=1000height=9000

With setting of large values of width and height it's possible to create large 
load at the server.


Timeline:


2010.04.16 - disclosed at my site.
2010.04.17 - informed developers.
2010.04.18 - informed developers on another e-mail.

I mentioned about these vulnerabilities at my site 
(http://websecurity.com.ua/4134/).

Best wishes  regards,
MustLive
Administrator of Websecurity web site
http://websecurity.com.ua 


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Re: [Full-disclosure] DEF CON 19 - hackers get hacked!

2011-08-11 Thread Ivan .
*A German technology researcher on Wednesday showed global mobile makers
and technology firms how General Packet Radio
Servicehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Packet_Radio_Servicecan
easily be tapped, intercepted, and decrypted with an average mobile
phone and a few applications. According to the New York Times, Karsten Nohl,
a computer engineer and mobile security researcher, demonstrated to fellow
researchers gathered to attend Chaos Communication
Camphttp://events.ccc.de/2010/08/10/chaos-communication-camp-2011/,
a Berlin-based hackers event, how to intercept the voice or data messages
sent between mobile
deviceshttps://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/10/technology/hacker-to-demonstrate-weak-mobile-internet-security.htmlover
GPRS easily, owing to weak protection provided by mobile network
carriers for data information. Nohl, in collaboration with his colleague
Luca Melette, tapped the information within a radius of five
kilometershttp://www.itproportal.com/2011/08/11/gprs-can-be-hacked-easily-claims-german-researcher/#ixzz1UkPeNdiEusing
a seven-year-old inexpensive mobile phone from Motorola.

http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/11/08/11/1928215/GPRS-Can-Be-Hacked-Easily-Claims-German-Researcher

*
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/10/technology/hacker-to-demonstrate-weak-mobile-internet-security.html?_r=1

On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 12:44 AM, Basan ba...@gmx.us wrote:

  - Original Message -
  From: -= Glowing Sex =-
  Sent: 08/10/11 10:56 AM
  To: coderman
  Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] DEF CON 19 - hackers get hacked!
  times are a changing... but, i see now what tyou mean... still, i just
 dont
  know why people even INSTALL or, accept anything at a defcon meeting, ofc
  someone will try to make some name, mining for data, is stealing an id
  nowdays, so there would be GREat potential for one device, to connect to
  some network, and rescan for other weak/known exploits... then you have
 an
  army :)

 To my knowledge, I was watching people's devices getting popped with little
 to no interaction by their part. If memory serves me correctly maybe someone
 did an apt-get update on their machine, but outside of that just the usual
 browsing and remote work.

  but, intersting about 4G... i have not yet to see that haxd so, 1 point
 for
  that but, thats prolly coz ui aint really been looking at that side of it

 It was impressive. Essentially if you had a device on and near the Rio
 during (and for some time after) DEF CON, you had a high chance of being
 compromised.

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[Full-disclosure] Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 blocked from sale in Australia

2011-08-02 Thread Ivan c
An Apple spokesperson told iTnews that it would continue to protect
its design patents.
This kind of blatant copying is wrong, and we need to protect Apple's
intellectual property when companies steal our ideas.
http://www.itnews.com.au/News/265483,samsung-galaxy-tab-101-blocked-from-sale-in-australia.aspx

And then watch Steve Jobs in an interview saying; Picasso had a
saying, good artists copy, great artists stealand we have always
been shameless in stealing great ideas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW0DUg63lqUfeature=related

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[Full-disclosure] A pound of flesh: how Cisco's unmitigated gall derailed one man's life

2011-07-21 Thread Ivan .
Buy Juniper!

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/07/a-pound-of-flesh-how-ciscos-unmitigated-gall-derailed-one-mans-life.ars
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Re: [Full-disclosure] Sony: No firewall and no patches

2011-05-10 Thread Ivan .
doesn't it also mandate the encryption of CC info? requirement 4 Encrypting
and Storing Credit Card Data

plenty of reports that the data was not encrypted, and also plenty that say
it was.

On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Tracy Reed tr...@ultraviolet.org wrote:

 On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 05:07:39AM +, Dobbins, Roland spake thusly:
  Stateful firewalls have no place in front of servers, where every
 incoming
  request is unsolicited, and therefore there is no state to inspect in the
  first place.

 The PCI SSC requires a stateful firewall in front of servers processing
 credit
 card data. Not only to block inbound access to any ports or services
 accidentally exposed but the outbound policy must also be default deny to
 make
 it more difficult to exfiltrate stolen data. If you have traffic going out
 to a
 high numbered port and you are not keeping state how do you know if that is
 a
 reply packet to an existing inbound connection or if it is an unauthorized
 outbound connection?

 Of course, the network should be properly segmented so that only the
 servers
 processing payment data are in-scope. You may be right about not putting a
 stateful firewall in front of the gaming servers (in Sony's case).

  Where stateful firewalls in front of Web servers are incorrectly mandated
 by
  various regulatory frameworks, making use of mod_security or its
 equivalent
  on the Web servers themselves ensures compliance without creating a DDoS
  chokepoint.

 If you don't have a stateful firewall blocking outbound connections why
 would
 the traffic even have to go through mod_security?

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Re: [Full-disclosure] Sony: No firewall and no patches

2011-05-10 Thread Ivan .
Ill throw this into the mixer while on topic of FWs

The TCP Split Handshake: Practical Effects on Modern Network Equipment
http://nmap.org/misc/split-handshake.pdf


On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Thor (Hammer of God)
t...@hammerofgod.com wrote:

  I would be extremely interested to learn details of how a stateful firewall 
  in
  front of a server saved a company, when stateless ACLs in hardware-based
  network infrastructure devices would've led to failure.  Seriously, if you 
  don't
  mind outlining the scenario, I think it would be very instructive.

 I'd be happy to - I too would like to dive a bit deeper into what your points 
 are as I find them interesting as well.  Let's take it offline - you can 
 share back with the group if you feel it valuable.

 t

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Re: [Full-disclosure] Facebook

2011-05-03 Thread Ivan .
it's the law, specifically CALEA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communications_Assistance_for_Law_Enforcement_Act

On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Javier Bassi javierba...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 7:51 PM, Daniel Clemens
 daniel.clem...@packetninjas.net wrote:
 Prove it!
 You clearly know nothing about our legal system.

 You might find this links interesting
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0aQojDGSD4
 http://www.google.com/transparencyreport/governmentrequests/

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Re: [Full-disclosure] iPhone Geolocation storage

2011-04-28 Thread Ivan .
and now tom tom as well

http://crave.cnet.co.uk/cartech/tomtom-admits-to-sending-your-routes-and-speed-information-to-the-police-50003618/

On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Ivan . ivan...@gmail.com wrote:
 stevie says it just a bug, a patented bug

 http://gawker.com/?_escaped_fragment_=5795442/apple-patent-reveals-extensive-stalking-plans#!5795442/apple-patent-reveals-extensive-stalking-plans

 On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 8:46 PM,  n...@myproxylists.com wrote:
 M$ are in the love in

 http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20057329-281.html

 On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Ivan . ivan...@gmail.com wrote:

 Interesting write up, and apparently old news



 If you have jailbroken your phone, just use cydia and search for tool
 'Untrackerd' to fix this issue. This background process reset the file
 periodically.

 I have always said this, after you have JB'd your iPhone, then it becomes
 a phone :) I hated that apple's bullshit where your phone is completely
 tied to itunes unless you jailbroke.

 https://alexlevinson.wordpress.com/2011/04/21/3-major-issues-with-the-latest-iphone-tracking-discovery/

 On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 1:59 PM, mark seiden m...@seiden.com wrote:

 yes, that's right.  on one of the forensics lists someone pointed out
 that
 he started google maps for 6 seconds
 and ended up with 1253 locations in the cache, all with the same time
 stamp.  those would be potential known
 locations in your neighborhood.

 much fuller disclosure in

 http://markey.house.gov/docs/applemarkeybarton7-12-10.pdf

 including that the some of the location data comes from google.

 it looks like everything gets anonymized, aggregated to 5 digit
 zipcodes,
 and max retention of 6 months, but don't
 talk much about what the device does except when it uploads data.

 the congressional disclosure, while it makes me feel better about
 location
 data, contains a few choice items like



 it's unclear how apple can keep app developers from retaining location
 data.  which doesn't seem forbidden by apple, only by law.

 it's also unclear why they keep really old data in the cache on the
 phone.
  cache bloat results for little benefit.

 the android doesn't do time-based pruning either and has a similar
 location cache with the same data it.

 it appears to me that since the keying is by mac address or the tower
 id
 that there will only be one timestamped item for
 each of those.  so if you go around the same neighborhood repeatedly,
 the
 same data will be in the cache.   so not exactly
 tracking, just recency.

 but it would seem prudent to both specify and implement the briefest
 retention of the location data that was possible to perform
 the function expected by the user.


 On Apr 20, 2011, at 12:34 PM, Brandon Matthews wrote:

 
  I've been poring over my phone's data, and I'm not sure if the
 resolution is
  just very low, or if it's logging the locations of towers and not my
 phone.
 
  Ex: http://imgur.com/2m5tO
 
  I'm going to xref with FCC databases soon to try and find out.
 
  B
 
  (Not speaking for Cisco, only for myself and with nobody's approval)
 
  On 4/20/11 12:11 PM, Michele Orru antisnatc...@gmail.com did
 declare:
 
  Already twitted today.
  Pretty scary btw. I hope there's not the equivalent for Android.
 
  antisnatchor
 
 
 
 
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  April 20, 2011 9:05 PM
 
 
  For those of you who have not seen this yet:
 
  http://radar.oreilly.com/2011/04/apple-location-tracking.html
 
  Description: Description: Description:
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  /if you don't think yourself into it. /
 
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Re: [Full-disclosure] iPhone Geolocation storage

2011-04-27 Thread Ivan .
stevie says it just a bug, a patented bug

http://gawker.com/?_escaped_fragment_=5795442/apple-patent-reveals-extensive-stalking-plans#!5795442/apple-patent-reveals-extensive-stalking-plans

On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 8:46 PM,  n...@myproxylists.com wrote:
 M$ are in the love in

 http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20057329-281.html

 On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Ivan . ivan...@gmail.com wrote:

 Interesting write up, and apparently old news



 If you have jailbroken your phone, just use cydia and search for tool
 'Untrackerd' to fix this issue. This background process reset the file
 periodically.

 I have always said this, after you have JB'd your iPhone, then it becomes
 a phone :) I hated that apple's bullshit where your phone is completely
 tied to itunes unless you jailbroke.

 https://alexlevinson.wordpress.com/2011/04/21/3-major-issues-with-the-latest-iphone-tracking-discovery/

 On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 1:59 PM, mark seiden m...@seiden.com wrote:

 yes, that's right.  on one of the forensics lists someone pointed out
 that
 he started google maps for 6 seconds
 and ended up with 1253 locations in the cache, all with the same time
 stamp.  those would be potential known
 locations in your neighborhood.

 much fuller disclosure in

 http://markey.house.gov/docs/applemarkeybarton7-12-10.pdf

 including that the some of the location data comes from google.

 it looks like everything gets anonymized, aggregated to 5 digit
 zipcodes,
 and max retention of 6 months, but don't
 talk much about what the device does except when it uploads data.

 the congressional disclosure, while it makes me feel better about
 location
 data, contains a few choice items like



 it's unclear how apple can keep app developers from retaining location
 data.  which doesn't seem forbidden by apple, only by law.

 it's also unclear why they keep really old data in the cache on the
 phone.
  cache bloat results for little benefit.

 the android doesn't do time-based pruning either and has a similar
 location cache with the same data it.

 it appears to me that since the keying is by mac address or the tower
 id
 that there will only be one timestamped item for
 each of those.  so if you go around the same neighborhood repeatedly,
 the
 same data will be in the cache.   so not exactly
 tracking, just recency.

 but it would seem prudent to both specify and implement the briefest
 retention of the location data that was possible to perform
 the function expected by the user.


 On Apr 20, 2011, at 12:34 PM, Brandon Matthews wrote:

 
  I've been poring over my phone's data, and I'm not sure if the
 resolution is
  just very low, or if it's logging the locations of towers and not my
 phone.
 
  Ex: http://imgur.com/2m5tO
 
  I'm going to xref with FCC databases soon to try and find out.
 
  B
 
  (Not speaking for Cisco, only for myself and with nobody's approval)
 
  On 4/20/11 12:11 PM, Michele Orru antisnatc...@gmail.com did
 declare:
 
  Already twitted today.
  Pretty scary btw. I hope there's not the equivalent for Android.
 
  antisnatchor
 
 
 
 
  Thor (Hammer of God) mailto:t...@hammerofgod.com
  April 20, 2011 9:05 PM
 
 
  For those of you who have not seen this yet:
 
  http://radar.oreilly.com/2011/04/apple-location-tracking.html
 
  Description: Description: Description:
 cid:image001.png@01CBA43F.5B83F2A0
 
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  /if you don't think yourself into it. /
 
  **
 
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 http://www.amazon.com/Thors-Microsoft-Security-Bible-Infrastructures/dp/1597
  495727C:/Users/thor/Documents/Cakewalk
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Re: [Full-disclosure] iPhone Geolocation storage

2011-04-26 Thread Ivan .
Interesting write up, and apparently old news

https://alexlevinson.wordpress.com/2011/04/21/3-major-issues-with-the-latest-iphone-tracking-discovery/

On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 1:59 PM, mark seiden m...@seiden.com wrote:

 yes, that's right.  on one of the forensics lists someone pointed out that
 he started google maps for 6 seconds
 and ended up with 1253 locations in the cache, all with the same time
 stamp.  those would be potential known
 locations in your neighborhood.

 much fuller disclosure in

 http://markey.house.gov/docs/applemarkeybarton7-12-10.pdf

 including that the some of the location data comes from google.

 it looks like everything gets anonymized, aggregated to 5 digit zipcodes,
 and max retention of 6 months, but don't
 talk much about what the device does except when it uploads data.

 the congressional disclosure, while it makes me feel better about location
 data, contains a few choice items like



 it's unclear how apple can keep app developers from retaining location
 data.  which doesn't seem forbidden by apple, only by law.

 it's also unclear why they keep really old data in the cache on the phone.
  cache bloat results for little benefit.

 the android doesn't do time-based pruning either and has a similar location
 cache with the same data it.

 it appears to me that since the keying is by mac address or the tower id
 that there will only be one timestamped item for
 each of those.  so if you go around the same neighborhood repeatedly, the
 same data will be in the cache.   so not exactly
 tracking, just recency.

 but it would seem prudent to both specify and implement the briefest
 retention of the location data that was possible to perform
 the function expected by the user.

 On Apr 20, 2011, at 12:34 PM, Brandon Matthews wrote:

 
  I've been poring over my phone's data, and I'm not sure if the resolution
 is
  just very low, or if it's logging the locations of towers and not my
 phone.
 
  Ex: http://imgur.com/2m5tO
 
  I'm going to xref with FCC databases soon to try and find out.
 
  B
 
  (Not speaking for Cisco, only for myself and with nobody's approval)
 
  On 4/20/11 12:11 PM, Michele Orru antisnatc...@gmail.com did
 declare:
 
  Already twitted today.
  Pretty scary btw. I hope there's not the equivalent for Android.
 
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Re: [Full-disclosure] iPhone Geolocation storage

2011-04-26 Thread Ivan .
M$ are in the love in

http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20057329-281.html

On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Ivan . ivan...@gmail.com wrote:

 Interesting write up, and apparently old news


 https://alexlevinson.wordpress.com/2011/04/21/3-major-issues-with-the-latest-iphone-tracking-discovery/

 On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 1:59 PM, mark seiden m...@seiden.com wrote:

 yes, that's right.  on one of the forensics lists someone pointed out that
 he started google maps for 6 seconds
 and ended up with 1253 locations in the cache, all with the same time
 stamp.  those would be potential known
 locations in your neighborhood.

 much fuller disclosure in

 http://markey.house.gov/docs/applemarkeybarton7-12-10.pdf

 including that the some of the location data comes from google.

 it looks like everything gets anonymized, aggregated to 5 digit zipcodes,
 and max retention of 6 months, but don't
 talk much about what the device does except when it uploads data.

 the congressional disclosure, while it makes me feel better about location
 data, contains a few choice items like



 it's unclear how apple can keep app developers from retaining location
 data.  which doesn't seem forbidden by apple, only by law.

 it's also unclear why they keep really old data in the cache on the phone.
  cache bloat results for little benefit.

 the android doesn't do time-based pruning either and has a similar
 location cache with the same data it.

 it appears to me that since the keying is by mac address or the tower id
 that there will only be one timestamped item for
 each of those.  so if you go around the same neighborhood repeatedly, the
 same data will be in the cache.   so not exactly
 tracking, just recency.

 but it would seem prudent to both specify and implement the briefest
 retention of the location data that was possible to perform
 the function expected by the user.


 On Apr 20, 2011, at 12:34 PM, Brandon Matthews wrote:

 
  I've been poring over my phone's data, and I'm not sure if the
 resolution is
  just very low, or if it's logging the locations of towers and not my
 phone.
 
  Ex: http://imgur.com/2m5tO
 
  I'm going to xref with FCC databases soon to try and find out.
 
  B
 
  (Not speaking for Cisco, only for myself and with nobody's approval)
 
  On 4/20/11 12:11 PM, Michele Orru antisnatc...@gmail.com did
 declare:
 
  Already twitted today.
  Pretty scary btw. I hope there's not the equivalent for Android.
 
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Re: [Full-disclosure] Got an iPhone or 3G iPad? Apple is recording your moves

2011-04-25 Thread Ivan .
*Q*: Steve,

Could you please explain the necessity of the passive location-tracking tool
embedded in my iPhone? It's kind of unnerving knowing that my exact location
is being recorded at all times. Maybe you could shed some light on this for
me before I switch to a Droid. They don't track me.

*A*: Oh yes they do. We don't track anyone. The info circulating around is
false.

Sent from my iPhone

http://www.macrumors.com/2011/04/25/steve-jobs-on-ios-location-issue-we-dont-track-anyone/

On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Ivan . ivan...@gmail.com wrote:


 http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/apr/22/iphone-android-location-based-services


 On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 1:51 AM, andrew.wallace 
 andrew.wall...@rocketmail.com wrote:

  On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 3:29 PM, mark seiden m...@seiden.com wrote:
  i'm more worried about private parties tracking these days...  say set
 up high res cameras with a good view
  of the major highways and scan all of the license plates.

 Do you mean organised crime gangs? We got plenty of them up here in
 Glasgow.

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Re: [Full-disclosure] Got an iPhone or 3G iPad? Apple is recording your moves

2011-04-23 Thread Ivan .
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/apr/22/iphone-android-location-based-services

On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 1:51 AM, andrew.wallace 
andrew.wall...@rocketmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 3:29 PM, mark seiden m...@seiden.com wrote:
  i'm more worried about private parties tracking these days...  say set up
 high res cameras with a good view
  of the major highways and scan all of the license plates.

 Do you mean organised crime gangs? We got plenty of them up here in
 Glasgow.

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Re: [Full-disclosure] iPhone Geolocation storage

2011-04-21 Thread Ivan .
Its maker, Israel-based Cellbrite, says it can copy all the content in
a cell phone --  including contacts, text messages, call history, and
pictures --  within a few minutes.  Even deleted texts and other data
can be restored by UFED 2.0, the latest version of the product, it
says.

http://redtape.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/04/20/6503253-gadget-gives-cops-quick-access-to-cell-phone-data

On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Marcio B. Jr.
marcio.barb...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:27 PM, Zach C. fxc...@gmail.com wrote:


 On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 6:04 PM, Marcio B. Jr. marcio.barb...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 9:45 PM, Zach C. fxc...@gmail.com wrote:
  That only seems to apply to Android 3.x,


 only seems to apply is a sloppy euphemism.

 Correct sentence is: IT DOES APPLY.

 I guess context is for the weak, since Android 2.3 (the latest non-3.x
 version) source is out (
 http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-releases-gingerbread-source-code-i9000
 ), and the source was also released for all previous versions --
 specifically, every version except 3.0. So, it applies to Android 3.0, sure,
 but that's the only version it applies to, and Google indicates they will be
 releasing source when it's actually finished and ready to be released on all
 the platforms Android currently runs on.


 Alright, you state context is for the weak and soon after that, you
 agree with me. That's really fantastic, Google-boy.


 Well, considering every version prior is more prevalent than 3.0 is, and
 Google will be releasing source...


 Cut all that enthusiastic mumbo-jumbo crap.

 Say WHEN it's going to happen (if so). When will Honeycomb's sources
 be available?


 But keep clutching that teddy-bear
 of spiteful vindication that Google didn't release the source code for *one*
 version of Android!


 This one version happens to be the latest.

 Moreover, I really want to bow to your proselytism but I see no
 sensible reason for hiding Honeycomb.



 Oh mommy, GSoC rules! Google is so into FOSS!

 They sure are. :D


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  On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Michael Holstein
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   Pretty scary btw. I hope there's not the equivalent for Android.
  
  
  
   anyone can git the android repository and look at the source
 
 
  I'm sorry?
 
 
 
  http://www.zdnet.com/blog/google/google-android-30-honeycomb-open-source-no-more/2845
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[Full-disclosure] Got an iPhone or 3G iPad? Apple is recording your moves

2011-04-20 Thread Ivan .
All iPhones appear to log your location to a file called
consolidated.db. This contains latitude-longitude coordinates along
with a timestamp. The coordinates aren't always exact, but they are
pretty detailed. There can be tens of thousands of data points in this
file, and it appears the collection started with iOS 4, so there's
typically around a year's worth of information at this point. Our best
guess is that the location is determined by cell-tower triangulation,
and the timing of the recording is erratic, with a widely varying
frequency of updates that may be triggered by traveling between cells
or activity on the phone itself.

http://radar.oreilly.com/2011/04/apple-location-tracking.html

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Re: [Full-disclosure] iPhone Geolocation storage

2011-04-20 Thread Ivan .
the Police can slurp it up with there new toy

http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/34/3458.asp

On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Marcio B. Jr.
marcio.barb...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Michael Holstein
 michael.holst...@csuohio.edu wrote:

 Pretty scary btw. I hope there's not the equivalent for Android.



 anyone can git the android repository and look at the source


 I'm sorry?

 http://www.zdnet.com/blog/google/google-android-30-honeycomb-open-source-no-more/2845






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Re: [Full-disclosure] iPhone Geolocation storage

2011-04-20 Thread Ivan .
welcome to Ameristan I guess

On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Zach C. fxc...@gmail.com wrote:
 That only seems to apply to Android 3.x, which is not even the most
 prevalent Android version in the wild. In fact, I think it can only be found
 on tablets at present, and presumably Google will release the source when
 they have 3.x stuff workable in mobile phones as well.

 On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Marcio B. Jr. marcio.barb...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Michael Holstein
 michael.holst...@csuohio.edu wrote:
 
  Pretty scary btw. I hope there's not the equivalent for Android.
 
 
 
  anyone can git the android repository and look at the source


 I'm sorry?


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Re: [Full-disclosure] Best Buy and Privacy?

2011-02-04 Thread [lesh] Ivan Nikolic
Hey, don't you people have private information laws that deal with this sort of 
stuff?

In europe, someone can't store your private information if you haven't 
explicitly allowed its storage and usage 
scenarios, let alone send it to third party.

Also, they have responsibility to keep your data secure.

There is even an agency to which you can report about possible violations of 
those laws that supposedly goes on 
inspections. I'm not sure how well this is handled in reality. I should do an 
experiment on this by reporting 
myself, but in any case, I use it to harrass people in situations like yours 
with no problems.

* Thor (Hammer of God) (t...@hammerofgod.com) wrote:
 I found this interesting, so I thought I would share it.
 
 Over the last few years I had amassed quite a number of various gaming system 
 games that I never used anymore (if at all) so I decided to trade them in at 
 Best Buy (they do this for store credit).  Though $3 for a $50 game wasn't 
 exactly attractive, I figured I could get a free Blue Ray out of it, so why 
 not.
 
 I showed up with a stack of games, and sat at the counter for about 30 
 minutes while the guy individually entered each title, catalog number, etc 
 for each game.  After all that, he finally said that he needed to see my 
 driver's license in order to give me my $73 credit.  I always question this 
 type of thing, so asked him why.  In case these were stolen he says, going 
 on to say it is store policy.  Whatever, I think, so I give it to him.  He 
 doesn't just look at it, but starts entering my info into the system - I 
 didn't care because it was an out-of-state license, but didn't like that he 
 was actually entering it into the system.
 
 He then notices that my license had expired a month earlier.  I actually knew 
 this, but wasn't going to offer it up.  He says he can't take it, and I give 
 the obligatory I'm not driving in the store, I'm just giving you games bit 
 and the it was me a month ago, so what difference does it make now pitch.  
 He goes asks the manager, and sure enough, they can't take it because it is 
 expired.
 
 So this is the point where I really start to wonder and ask more questions 
 about what difference it makes.  He then tells me that the reason he has to 
 enter so much information, including each individual title and UPC, is 
 because they have to send all this information to the Seattle police in case 
 any of the titles I turned in were reported stolen by someone.  I asked how 
 they expected to match up a stolen title with a redeemed one short of putting 
 5 Pimp My Ride games in a line-up for identification, and of course the kid 
 didn't know and didn't care.  I then pointed out that even if I did steal it, 
 if the cops came around looking for it, I wouldn't have it anymore anyway 
 because it would be in the Best Buy warehouse.  More not caring.
 
 While the overall process of wasting police resources on tracking games that 
 might have been stolen seems like a complete waste of time and money, what 
 really concerned me is that Best Buy was going to send my personal 
 information over to the police without disclosing anything to me.  There was 
 no mention of it anywhere, no fine print, nothing.  Had my license not been 
 expired, that info (which they would not have had) would be put into the 
 public system, and there would be no way I could control the information or 
 what they did with it.  This would have been particularly bad if I had to 
 explain why I had a copy of Barbie's Horse Adventure at some point.
 
 As far as profiling is concerned, you would think they would be more 
 interested in the fact that I was going to use the $73 credit towards the 
 purchase of a couple of seasons of Dexter, but I have no way of knowing that 
 they wouldn't have sent this information anyway.  It begs the question as to 
 what other information Best Buy is sending to whom, and what kind of privacy 
 rights I am implicitly giving up by shopping there.  If they can report 
 personal information to government agencies without my knowledge, approval, 
 or any sort of notification, and in this case collected the information for 
 the explicit purpose of doing so, why else are they collecting?
 
 AFAIAC, there is something seriously wrong with this.  Anyway, I thought I 
 would share this in case anyone found it interesting.
 
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Re: [Full-disclosure] Evilgrade 2.0 - the update explotation framework is back

2010-10-31 Thread [lesh] Ivan Nikolic
Hm, I'm new to this list. so I find this a bit strange.

Christian, Vladis, are you the same person?
what are your motives?
do you really believe the things you are saying? 
you seem to be just generally negative, jumping from point to point and being 
very silly.

Just signing the update packages prevents this attack, so it's not that hard 
to fix.

  In my opinion, all in all, you're creating a yet another overly complex
  system with as yet more possible flaws.
  Don't forget tat each new line of code is a potential attack vector which
  affects any system.

there is a REAL attack vector that needs to be fixed, and you are saying that 
it shouldn't be fixed as every 
line of code creates a POTENTIAL attack vector?

 Only thing, there's the danger of someone using stolen certificates.

a signing key might be stolen, so we shouldn't use it?
do you use passwords chris? why? they might be stolen?
you can't possibly believe that?

 Amen to that.
 
 A more subtle issue is the tradeoff issue:  Any time they have a code engineer
 spending time building and feeding that code-signing infrastructure is time 
 that
 code engineer *isn't* spending writing actual new features the users *want*.

code-signing infrastructure? ofcourse, code for those things is well known, 
packed in libraries, 
and trivial to use. ofcourse. and...
and bla.
I could go on, but probbably the whole list is aware of those things.

I'm wondering what's going on?
are you payed list-posters from an evil rival company? this is the only idea I 
have.

* valdis.kletni...@vt.edu (valdis.kletni...@vt.edu) wrote:
 On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 14:24:59 BST, Christian Sciberras said:
 
  In my opinion, all in all, you're creating a yet another overly complex
  system with as yet more possible flaws.
  Don't forget tat each new line of code is a potential attack vector which
  affects any system.
 
 Amen to that.
 
 A more subtle issue is the tradeoff issue:  Any time they have a code engineer
 spending time building and feeding that code-signing infrastructure is time 
 that
 code engineer *isn't* spending writing actual new features the users *want*.
 
 Which user-requested feature are you going to heave over the side in order to
 do code-signing instead?  That question has to enter into the calculus as 
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Re: [Full-disclosure] African ISP SekuritY

2010-10-27 Thread [lesh] Ivan Nikolic
difference between breach and hack is that you say breach when you'd like to 
sound cool and james-bondy.

a person that breaches has one of those tight microphone-headphone things and 
is handsome.
while a person that hacks just has a greasy hair.

can you please explain me the definition based difference and the normal 
difference between two words?


cnn for example likes to use that word in attempt to keep people away from 
changing the channel.

* Benji (m...@b3nji.com) wrote:
 Isn't it still a hack depending on how the u/p were obtained? 
 
 Could someone please explain the definition based difference between a breach 
 and a hack?
 
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Re: [Full-disclosure] CYBSEC Advisory#2010-0605 InterScan Web Security 5.0 Arbitrary File Upload

2010-06-25 Thread Ivan
Hi Moritz, it's just a typing mistake.

Thanks for the advice

Kind regards,
Ivan

On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Moritz Hoffmann mor...@antiguru.de wrote:
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 Direct execution of arbitrary PHP code in the Web Server.


 I assume this is a Java-based application, why do you state that as a
 result PHP code can be executed? I don't get it...


 Kind regards,
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[Full-disclosure] No anti-virus software? No internet connection

2010-06-21 Thread Ivan .
Security is as easy as that..

http://www.news.com.au/technology/no-anti-virus-software-no-internet-connection/story-e6frfro0-1225882656490

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Re: [Full-disclosure] No anti-virus software? No internet connection

2010-06-21 Thread Ivan .
yep, your tax $$$ at work

Don't forget there Internet filter as well.. With these rocket
scientist running the show, what's there to worry about

http://blogs.news.com.au/techblog/index.php/news/comments/finally_theres_protection_against_spams_and_scams

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Jubei Trippataka
vpn.1.fana...@gmail.com wrote:
 They had a committee working on this for a year and that's the best they
 could come up with? HAHAHAHA.

 Belinda Neal - With idiots like you and your colleagues tackling this issue,
 tax payers deserve to burn you at the stake. BTW... are you really a du0d?

 --
 ciao

 JT


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[Full-disclosure] The Strange and Consequential Case of Bradley Manning, Adrian Lamo and WikiLeaks

2010-06-20 Thread Ivan .
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article25767.htm
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[Full-disclosure] Apple's Worst Security Breach: 114, 000 iPad Owners Exposed,

2010-06-09 Thread Ivan .
http://gawker.com/5559346/apples-worst-security-breach-114000-ipad-owners-exposed
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[Full-disclosure] Web Browsers Leave 'Fingerprints' Behind as You Surf the Net

2010-05-19 Thread Ivan .
Interesting research

http://www.eff.org/press/archives/2010/05/13

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[Full-disclosure] We must work harder on cloud, says Microsoft

2010-04-21 Thread Ivan .
Funny stuff...

Nirvana in a cloud context would be for customers to trust Microsoft
just as they trust their bank or utility company.

Building that mentality will take time. It's going to be incumbent
upon us to establish that confidence with our customers,” he said
during a visit to Sydney.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/australian-it/we-must-work-harder-on-cloud-says-microsoft/story-e6frgakx-1225856537669

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Re: [Full-disclosure] We must work harder on cloud, says Microsoft

2010-04-21 Thread Ivan .
The question is who would trust any of these orgs to maintain the
integrity of their data?

On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Jason Nada j.cri...@live.com wrote:
 The funny thing about the cloud is that eventually there is going to be a
 monopoly of one company that dominates in it. Just as Microsoft has done
 with software, I can see Microsoft CloudSoft coming soon.

 Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 09:03:26 +1000
 From: ivan...@gmail.com
 To: full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk; security-bas...@securityfocus.com
 Subject: [Full-disclosure] We must work harder on cloud, says Microsoft

 Funny stuff...

 Nirvana in a cloud context would be for customers to trust Microsoft
 just as they trust their bank or utility company.

 Building that mentality will take time. It's going to be incumbent
 upon us to establish that confidence with our customers,” he said
 during a visit to Sydney.


 http://www.theaustralian.com.au/australian-it/we-must-work-harder-on-cloud-says-microsoft/story-e6frgakx-1225856537669

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[Full-disclosure] Compliance Is Wasted Money, Study Finds

2010-04-06 Thread Ivan .
For those who don't frequent slashdot...

Enterprises are spending huge amounts of money on compliance programs
related to PCI-DSS, HIPAA and other regulations, but those funds may
be misdirected in light of the priorities of most information security
programs, a new study has found. A paper by Forrester Research,
commissioned by Microsoft and RSA, the security division of EMC, found
that even though corporate intellectual property comprises 62 percent
of a given company's data assets, most of the focus of their security
programs is on compliance with various regulations. The study found
that enterprise security managers know what their companies' true data
assets are, but find that their security programs are driven mainly by
compliance, rather than protection (PDF).

http://www.rsa.com/products/DLP/ar/10844_5415_The_Value_of_Corporate_Secrets.pdf

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[Full-disclosure] Cryptome Spying guides as a Digital Forensic Resource

2010-03-02 Thread Ivan .
For those who missed all the action

http://blogs.sans.org/computer-forensics/2010/03/02/cryptome-spying-guides-as-a-digital-forensic-resource/

*Microsoft* – http://cryptome.org//isp-spy/microsoft-spy.zip
*Paypal* – http://cryptome.org/isp-spy/paypal-spy.zip
*MySpace* – http://cryptome.org/isp-spy/myspace-spy.pdf
*Facebook*  – http://cryptome.org/isp-spy/comcast-spy.pdf
*AOL* – http://cryptome.org/isp-spy/aol-spy.pdf
*Skype* – http://cryptome.org/isp-spy/skype-spy.pdf
*Cox Communications* – http://cryptome.org/isp-spy/cox-spy.pdf
*Ning* – http://cryptome.org/isp-spy/ning-spy.pdf
*MyYearbook* – http://cryptome.org/isp-spy/myyearbook-spy.pdf
*Stickam* – http://cryptome.org/isp-spy/stickam-spy.pdf
*USPS Requests* http://cryptome.org/isp-spy/usps-spy.pdf /
http://cryptome.org/isp-spy/usps-spy2.pdf
*Cisco* – http://cryptome.org/isp-spy/cisco-spy.pdf
*3GPP* – http://cryptome.org/3gpp/3gpp-spy.htm
*ATT *- http://cryptome.org/isp-spy/att-spy-doc-01.pdf  /
http://cryptome.org/isp-spy/att-spy-doc-02.zip

*Verizon* – http://cryptome.org/isp-spy/verizon-spy.pdf
*Sprint CALEA Delivery* – http://cryptome.org/isp-spy/sprint-spy2.pdf
*Sprint* – http://cryptome.org/isp-spy/sprint-spy.zip
*Nextel* – http://cryptome.org/isp-spy/nextel-spy.pdf
*Voicestream* – http://cryptome.org/isp-spy/voicestream-spy.zip
*Yahoo* – http://cryptome.org/isp-spy/yahoo-spy.pdf
*SBC-Ameritech* – http://cryptome.org/isp-spy/sbc-ameritech-spy.pdf
*Ameritech* – http://cryptome.org/isp-spy/ameritech-spy.pdf
*SBC-LEA* – http://cryptome.org/isp-spy/ameritech-spy.pdf
*Cingular* – http://cryptome.org/isp-spy/cingular-spy.pdf
*Cricket* – http://cryptome.org/isp-spy/cricket-spy.pdf
*Pactel* – http://cryptome.org/isp-spy/pactel-spy.pdf
*GTE* – http://cryptome.org/isp-spy/gte-spy.pdf
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[Full-disclosure] ACTA internet enforcement chapter leaks

2010-02-23 Thread Ivan .
http://www.boingboing.net/2010/02/21/acta-internet-enforc.html

http://craphound.com/acta_digital_chapter-1.pdf
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Re: [Full-disclosure] [WEB SECURITY] Trustwave's SpiderLabs Security Advisory TWSL2010-001

2010-02-19 Thread Ivan Buetler
Hi all,

There is an ongoing conversation about a potential XSS with ViewState of
the .NET framework. However, some were not able to reproduce the issue
and therefore we decided to prepare a short and high resolution movie. 

http://www.hacking-lab.com/download/

Regards
Ivan






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From: Trustwave Advisories [mailto:trustwaveadvisor...@trustwave.com] 
Sent: Dienstag, 9. Februar 2010 23:41
To: webapp...@lists.securityfocus.com; websecur...@webappsec.org;
full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk; bugt...@securityfocus.com
Subject: [WEB SECURITY] Trustwave's SpiderLabs Security Advisory
TWSL2010-001

Trustwave's SpiderLabs Security Advisory TWSL2010-001:
Multiplatform View State Tampering Vulnerabilities

Published: 2010-02-08 Version: 1.1

SpiderLabs has documented view state tampering
vulnerabilities in three products from separate vendors.
View states are used by some web application frameworks to
store the state of HTML GUI controls. View states are
typically stored in hidden client-side input fields,
although server-side storage is widely supported.

The affected vendors generally recommend that client-side
view states are cryptographically signed and/or encrypted,
but specific exploits have not been previously documented.
These vulnerabilities show that unsigned client-side view
states will ALWAYS result in a vulnerability in the affected
products.

Credit: David Byrne of Trustwave's SpiderLabs


===
Vendor: Microsoft (http://www.microsoft.com)
Product: ASP.Net (http://www.asp.net)
Versions affected: .Net 3.5 is confirmed vulnerable;
previous versions are likely to be vulnerable as well.

Description:
ASP.Net is a web-application development framework that
provides for both user interfaces, and back-end
functionality.

The ASP.Net view state is typically stored in a hidden field
named __VIEWSTATE. When a page's view state is not
cryptographically signed, many standard .Net controls are
vulnerable to Cross-Site Scripting (XSS) through the view
state.

It is well documented that using an unsigned view state is
bad, but most previous advisories focus on vaguely
described threats or vulnerabilities introduced by custom
use of the view state. To the best of Trustwave's knowledge,
this is the first time a proof of concept attack of this
nature has been demonstrated against the view state. A
vulnerability was alluded to in a 2004 Microsoft article on
troubleshooting view state problems [1]. However, other
Microsoft documents recommend disabling view state signing
if performance is a key consideration, [2, 3, 4] or for
various other reasons [5, 6]. Realistically, unsigned view
states should never be used in a production environment.

The following code is vulnerable to a XSS attack against the
form control. Note that the ValidateRequest setting does
not prevent the attack.

   %@ Page EnableViewStateMac=False 
   ValidateRequest=True %
   html runat=server
  form runat=server/
   /html



If the following request is sent to the server, the response
will contain JavaScript that calls an alert box.

xss.aspx?__VIEWSTATE=/wEPDwUKLTgzNDA2NzgyMA9kFgJmD2QWAgIBDxY
CHglpbm5lcmh0bWwFHTxzY3JpcHQ%2BYWxlcnQoJ3hzcycpPC9zY3JpcHQ%2
BZGQ=

The view state's XML equivalent is below:

   ?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-16?
   viewstate
 Pair
   Pair
 String-834067820/String
 Pair
   ArrayList
 Int320/Int32
 Pair
   ArrayList
 Int321/Int32
 Pair
   ArrayList
IndexedStringinnerhtml/IndexedString
Stringlt;scriptgt;alert('xss')lt;/scriptgt;/String
   /ArrayList
 /Pair
   /ArrayList
 /Pair
   /ArrayList
 /Pair
   /Pair
 /Pair
   /viewstate

The HTML response is below:
   html
 form name=ctl01 method=post 
   action=xss.aspx id=ctl01
   div
   input type=hidden name=__VIEWSTATE id=__VIEWSTATE
value=/wEPDwUKLTgzNDA2NzgyMA9kFgJmD2QWAgIBDxYCHglpbm5lcmh0b
WwFHTxzY3JpcHQ+YWxlcnQoJ3hzcycpPC9zY3JpcHQ+ZGQ= /
   /div
   scriptalert('xss')/script/form
   /html

This example uses the innerhtml attribute of the form
control, although other attributes in other controls are
also vulnerable to similar attacks.


Remediation Steps:
The ASP.Net view state should always be cryptographically
signed with a Message Authentication Code (MAC). This has
been enabled by default since .Net 1.1, but can be disabled
using the EnableViewStateMac setting. Using the
ViewStateUserKey setting can also help to mitigate the
scope of this vulnerability. [7]




===
Vendor: Apache Software Foundation (http://www.apache.org)
Product: Apache MyFaces (http://myfaces.apache.org/)
Versions affected: 1.2.8 and 1.1.7 are confirmed as
   vulnerable. All previous versions are likely vulnerable.
Related products: Some versions of IBM WebSphere Application
   Server

[Full-disclosure] Google baulks at Conroy's call to censor YouTube

2010-02-10 Thread Ivan .
Conroy said applying ISP filters to high-traffic sites such as YouTube
would slow down the internet, so we're currently in discussions with
Google about ... how we can work this through.

What we're saying is, well in Australia, these are our laws and we'd
like you to apply our laws, Conroy said.

Google at the moment filters an enormous amount of material on behalf
of the Chinese government; they filter an enormous amount of material
on behalf of the Thai government.

http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/google-baulks-at-conroys-call-to-censor-youtube-20100211-ntm0.html

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[Full-disclosure] Internet attack defense: License and registration please...

2010-02-01 Thread Ivan .
Your documents please?

http://government.zdnet.com/?p=6934

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[Full-disclosure] U.S. enables Chinese hacking of Google

2010-01-26 Thread Ivan .
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/01/23/schneier.google.hacking/index.html

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Re: [Full-disclosure] All China, All The Time

2010-01-19 Thread Ivan .
Now, by analyzing the software used in the break-ins against Google
and dozens of other companies, Joe Stewart, a malware specialist with
SecureWorks, a computer security company based in Atlanta, said he
determined the main program used in the attack contained a module
based on an unusual algorithm from a Chinese-authored technical paper
that has been published exclusively on Chinese-language Web sites.

http://news.cnet.com/Evidence-found-of-Chinese-attack-on-Google/2100-7349_3-6250413.html?tag=newsEditorsPicksArea.0

On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 6:51 AM, Densmore, Todd todd.densm...@hp.com wrote:
 Mark, Dan, Smasher, etc. Thanks for the feedback.

 I saw the thread this weekend, but I had to wait until I today to respond. My 
 main motivation was to point out that there is no free lunch, and often even 
 security professionals forget to think critically. It was not meant to be a 
 thorough assessment of the actual 0-day. However I appreciate the correction, 
 the details of the exploit, and the observation that its sophistication was 
 probably exaggerated in the media.

 I have changed some implicit wording in the article about China and added an 
 addendum to the blog to clarify the exploit and thank sources.

 ~todd

 Todd Densmore
 HP Software - Application Security Center
 todd.densm...@hp.com
 770.343.7054 Office

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[Full-disclosure] Network flaw causes scary Web error

2010-01-17 Thread Ivan .
Would be fun to try and replicate this

A Georgia mother and her two daughters logged onto Facebook from mobile
phones last weekend and wound up in a startling place: strangers' accounts
with full access to troves of private information.

The glitch -- the result of a routing problem at the family's wireless
carrier, ATT -- revealed a little known security flaw with far reaching
implications for everyone on the Internet, not just Facebook users.
http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/2010/01/15/ap_exclusive_network_flaw_causes_scary_web_error/
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Re: [Full-disclosure] All China, All The Time

2010-01-14 Thread Ivan .
Interesting article on zdnet, talking about the targeting of the
lawful intercept system at Google

…they [hackers] apparently were able to access a system used to help
Google comply with search warrants by providing data on Google users,
said a source familiar with the situation, who spoke on condition of
anonymity because he was not authorized to speak with the press.
“Right before Christmas, it was, ‘Holy s***, this malware is accessing
the internal intercept [systems],’” he said.

http://blogs.zdnet.com/Foremski/?p=1047

2010/1/15 Michael Holstein michael.holst...@csuohio.edu:

 With all the hubbub around China yet again, I would like to remind you of 
 the utilities available at Hammer of God that allow one to completely block 
 any or all traffic to or from China or any other country in the world via 
 ISA/TMG.


 Source for pre-built blocklists in DNSBL, CIDR, or Cisco ACL format :

 http://www.okean.com/thegoods.html

 Regards,

 Michael Holstein
 Cleveland State University


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[Full-disclosure] TSA Logo Contest - Schneier

2010-01-11 Thread Ivan .
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2010/01/tsa_logo_contes.html

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[Full-disclosure] The Great Aussie Firewall is dead: Long live the firewall

2009-12-16 Thread Ivan .
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/15/australian_censorship_measures/
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[Full-disclosure] Decaf anyone?

2009-12-14 Thread Ivan .
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/12/decaf-cofee/

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[Full-disclosure] Revenge of the Computer Nerds

2009-12-09 Thread Ivan .
But the real action (and the evidence for chicanery) is in the
computer code obtained from the CRU. Our own computer guru Marc
Sheppard, writing for American Thinker here and here, was one of the
first to offer an accurate diagnosis of this fraudulent method of
computer programming. Analyzing the code, as Marc has indicated in his
work, is a complex business. As he pleads in one article, please bear
with me while I get a tad techie on you.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/12/revenge_of_the_computer_nerds_1.html?utm_source=twitterfeedutm_medium=twitter

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Re: [Full-disclosure] Revenge of the Computer Nerds

2009-12-09 Thread Ivan .
ahh the bullshit left / right paradigm. Sheeple anyone?

Seven Ploys for Manipulating the People:

1. The Distraction Principle: While the people are distracted by the
struggle to exist, politicians can do virtually anything to them and
they will not notice

2. The Social Compliance Principle: The people are trained by society
not to question authority. Politicians can exploit this “suspension
of suspiciousness� to make people believe what they want them to

3. The Herd Principle: Even highly scpetical people will let their
guard down when everyone around them appears to share the same views.
Politicians exploit this by utilising propaganda (spin) to spread lies
and misconceptions

4. The Dishonestly Principle: Any mistaken past agreement with the
politician's spin may be used against you in the future, making it
harder for people to publicly change their views even when they
realise they've been had

5. The Deception Principle: Things and people are seldom what they
seem, but politicians and their media teams are expert at manipulating
your perceptions to believe that they are

6. The Need and Greed Principle: Your needs and desires, such as
wanting to do the right thing for your children, make you vulnerable.
Once politicians have convinced you about what it is you really want,
they can easily manipulate you

7. The Time Principle: When the people are under time pressure to make
an important choice, they use a different decision strategy.
Politicians steer the people towards a strategy that involves less
reasoning.

These are the classic ploys used by confidence tricksters everywhere.


On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Dan Kaminsky d...@doxpara.com wrote:
 Yes, because when I want technical data, I go to a right wing blog

 http://www.jgc.org/blog/2009/11/very-artificial-correction-flap-looks.html

 (Bonus points:  Check the dates)


 On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Ivan . ivan...@gmail.com wrote:

 But the real action (and the evidence for chicanery) is in the
 computer code obtained from the CRU. Our own computer guru Marc
 Sheppard, writing for American Thinker here and here, was one of the
 first to offer an accurate diagnosis of this fraudulent method of
 computer programming. Analyzing the code, as Marc has indicated in his
 work, is a complex business. As he pleads in one article, please bear
 with me while I get a tad techie on you.


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[Full-disclosure] Climate-Gate:A SysAdmin’s Perspective

2009-12-07 Thread Ivan .
http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/FOIA_Leaked/

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Re: [Full-disclosure] Software developer looks at CRU code

2009-12-06 Thread Ivan .
CRU's programming 'below commercial standards'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/newsnight/8395514.stm


On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Paul Schmehl pschmehl_li...@tx.rr.com wrote:

 --On December 6, 2009 3:46:49 PM -0800 Thor (Hammer of God)
 t...@hammerofgod.com wrote:

  No provision for funding with PUBLIC money.  Private funds (premiums)
  only.
 

 Really?  Page 115 of the GPO copy of HR 3962 has the heading Abortions
 for which public funding is allowed.

 In sec 265 on page 160 the act authorizes funding abortions with federal
 funds for a woman who suffers from a physical disorder, physical injury,
 or physical illness that would, as certified by a physician, place the
 woman in danger of death unless the abortion is performed, including a
 life-endangering physical condition caused by or arising from the
 pregnancy itself, or unless the pregnancy is the result of an act of rape
 or incest.

 This places the judgment in the hands of a physician, some of whom would
 be more than happy to certify a woman for abortion whose life was not
 really in danger.  But even if every case could be certified as true and
 accurate, the fact remains that federal funds would pay for abortions.

 The plan fact is that your statement is false, as is made obvious in the
 bill.

 Page 117, Sec 1303, Subsection b, subsection ii of the Senate version is
 titled Abortions for which public funding is allowed

 Need I go further?

 The fact is that, in their present forms, both the House and Senate
 version provide public funding for abortions.  No, it's not abortion on
 demand, but it is abortion.

 Stop taking the news media's word for the facts and do your own research.

 Paul Schmehl, If it isn't already
 obvious, my opinions are my own
 and not those of my employer.
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[Full-disclosure] In the thick of it: how the Digital Economy bill is trying to kill open Wi-Fi networks

2009-12-02 Thread Ivan .
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/nov/30/open-wi-fi-digital-economy-bill-government
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[Full-disclosure] Microsoft: ‘Piracy no long er poses a threat to us’

2009-12-02 Thread Ivan .
In a recent interview, managing director of Microsoft Philippines Inc., John
Bessey, has claimed that piracy no longer poses a threat to the software
giant.

http://freakbits.com/microsoft-piracy-no-longer-poses-a-threat-to-us-1202
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[Full-disclosure] Feds ‘Pinged’ Sprint GPS D ata 8 Million Times Over a Year

2009-12-01 Thread Ivan .
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/12/gps-data/
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Re: [Full-disclosure] Software developer looks at CRU code

2009-11-30 Thread Ivan .
just ask Al of the Gore about his carbon trading exchange he setup
with Ken Lay of Enron fame as advisor...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjHAB62xKXI

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Rohit Patnaik quanti...@gmail.com wrote:
 Right, but you said that the global warming folks are asking for unnecessary
 spending of *trillions*.  Where would those trillions go?  I don't see Al
 Gore becoming richer than Bill Gates off carbon credits.  Neither do I see
 the UN gaining any more power via the IPCC.  If anything, the existing
 climate treaty (i.e. the Kyoto protocol) has completely sidestepped the UN.

 I guess what I'm troubled by is the fact that you seem to be stating that
 there's some kind of deliberate malice on the part of those stating that
 anthropogenic climate change is real.  I don't see malice.  I see a fair
 amount of incompetence, but incompetence exists in every discipline.

 --Rohit Patnaik

 On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Paul Schmehl pschmehl_li...@tx.rr.com
 wrote:

 I'm going to assume this is a serious question.

 You could start with the people enriching themselves off of carbon
 credits.  Al Gore, for one obvious example.  You could continue with the
 people that think the entire world should be ruled by a bureaucracy called
 the UN.  You could go on with the scientists who get millions of dollars
 worth of grants to study the problem and propose solutions.

 Are there people on the opposing side who benefit from what you call
 scaremongering?  Of course there are.  But the claims of the global warming
 crowd are unsupported by the data (not *their* data, because they have
 clearly skewed it to support their claims, as is proven both by their emails
 and their program code) but by the real data, unmassaged.

 --On Monday, November 30, 2009 16:00:05 -0600 Rohit Patnaik
 quanti...@gmail.com wrote:

 There's a question I ask whenever I hear a theory like this.  Cui bono?
 Who benefits?  Who is benefiting from the climate change
 scaremongering?
 You claim that trillions of dollars will need to be spent.  If its such a
 scam, then who is scamming us?  The UN IPCC?  A mysterious cabal of
 alternative energy companies?  The Trilateral Commission?


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Re: [Full-disclosure] Software developer looks at CRU code

2009-11-30 Thread Ivan .
watch the video, but the Al of the Gore bit is at 1.40 in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VebOTc-7shU

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Paul Schmehl pschmehl_li...@tx.rr.comwrote:

 --On Monday, November 30, 2009 6:13 PM -0600 Rohit Patnaik
 quanti...@gmail.com wrote:

  Right, but you said that the global warming folks are asking for
  unnecessary spending of *trillions*.  Where would those trillions go?

 Apparently you haven't read the proposals to deal with global warming.  An
 MIT study found the cost of complying with one proposed energy sector bill
 designed to deal with global warming would be $4500 annually per family of
 four.  The EPA analyzed the bill and estimated its cost at 500 billion
 dollars by the year 2030.  And that's just for the US.  And just one
 suggested solution to the so-called problem.

  I don't see Al Gore becoming richer than Bill Gates off carbon credits.

 So unless Al Gore makes more than Bill Gates he's not motivated to
 proselytize for global warming?  He's already made millions of dollars off
 the scam, but I suppose his motivations were of the purest form.

  Neither do I see the UN gaining any more power via the IPCC.  If
  anything, the existing climate treaty (i.e. the Kyoto protocol) has
  completely sidestepped the UN.
 

 Anything that takes power away from local communities concentrates power in
 larger governmental entities.  By the same token, anything that takes power
 away from nations, concentrates power in a larger entity - in this case,
 the UN, which would supposedly administer fines for non-compliance, etc.,
 etc.

  I guess what I'm troubled by is the fact that you seem to be stating that
  there's some kind of deliberate malice on the part of those stating that
  anthropogenic climate change is real.  I don't see malice.  I see a
  fair amount of incompetence, but incompetence exists in every discipline.
 

 Have you read the emails that were exposed by the hackers?  The
 scientists have deliberately misled the public regarding the data,
 conspired to deny FOI requests (which may be a criminal offense), attempted
 to get the media to both ignore and denigrate the opposition and written
 programs designed to deliberately skew the data in their favor and hide
 unfavorable data.

 http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6936328.ece
 http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6936289.ece

 If that isn't malice, what is?

 Paul Schmehl
 As if it wasn't already obvious,
 my opinions are my own and not
 those of my employer.

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[Full-disclosure] Symantec Online Store Hacked

2009-11-29 Thread Ivan .
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Symantec-Online-Store-Hacked-127726.shtml

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[Full-disclosure] Software developer looks at CRU code

2009-11-29 Thread Ivan .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYxk7pnmMFwfeature=related

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Re: [Full-disclosure] Microsoft Windows TCP/IP Timestamps Code Execution Vulnerability

2009-11-27 Thread Ivan Security
Binary diffing?. Stop spamming.
We already know that it's a timestamp issue. Do you have any idea to start
some research/test?. I was reading the RFC 1323 and a paper about TCP/IP
implementation in Windows 2003 Server but it seems to be very reliable. I
mean, how windows implemented it to lead to code execution?.

2009/11/27 webDEViL w3bd3...@gmail.com

 That's what binary diffing is all about.

 Sent from my iPhone


 On Nov 27, 2009, at 7:59 AM, Ivan Security ivanch...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi list,

 Has anyone more details about this vulnerability?. The advisory just say:
 The vulnerability exists due to the TCP/IP stack not cleaning up state
 information correctly. This causes the TCP/IP stack to reference a field as
 a function pointer when it actually contains other information
 I'd like to know a bit more in order to test it and make some research.

 Regards,

 Ivan.
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Re: [Full-disclosure] Microsoft Windows TCP/IP Timestamps Code Execution Vulnerability

2009-11-27 Thread Ivan Security
Thanks for your correct response.
Discover the problem by binary difference is quite hard and if it were
achiveable, which files should we compare?. I succesfully tested the other
vulnerabilitiy called Microsoft Windows XP/Vista TCP/IP Orphaned
Connections Vulnerability because i had more information. I'm testing this
issue against a Windows Vista Ultimate SP1. I could patch it and then
compare the corresponding binary files.
Following your guesses i can start to try something buggy. Thanks.

Regards,

Ivan.


2009/11/27 valdis.kletni...@vt.edu

 On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 12:27:29 -0300, Ivan Security said:

  implementation in Windows 2003 Server but it seems to be very reliable. I
  mean, how windows implemented it to lead to code execution?.

 My guess is that there's some code in there that should have said:

 if packet.hdr.type = TIMESTAMP  {
 option.callback = timestamp_handler;
 option.data = packet.hdr.timestamp_data;
 } else {
 option.callback = NULL;
 }

 and some other code that did this:

 if (option.callback) { *option.callback(option.data) };

 but somebody forgot that else field, so .callback was random trash. Since
 it was non-NULL random trash, the 'if' was true, and we end up calling
 through
 a trash pointer.  Now if you have a way to control the value of
 option.callback
 (possibly 'option' is an malloc structure), and uou can force re-use of
 the area by including multiple TCP options on a christmas-tree packet...

 I can't prove that's the case here, but that's the general model for quite
 a
 few oh fuck we called through a bad function pointer.  If it isn't that,
 it's
 probably a use-after-free where some other function has re-allocated the
 storage and done the fandango on the bits.

  Binary diffing?. Stop spamming.

 Suggesting doing a binary diff at this point wouldn't be spamming at all -
 it
 would tell you *exactly* where the missing 'else foo=NULL' was. The fact
 that we don't have W2003 servers falling over left right and center would
 indicate that it's probably some odd corner case involving multiple TCP
 option fields and other similar (a bad multiply-nested
 'if/then/elseif/then/if/
 else/elseif/then/else', nested case statements, etc.  And at that point,
 you're going to need either the source or a good binary diff to see where
 it went astray. :)



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[Full-disclosure] Microsoft Windows TCP/IP Timestamps Code Execution Vulnerability

2009-11-26 Thread Ivan Security
Hi list,

Has anyone more details about this vulnerability?. The advisory just say:
The vulnerability exists due to the TCP/IP stack not cleaning up state
information correctly. This causes the TCP/IP stack to reference a field as
a function pointer when it actually contains other information
I'd like to know a bit more in order to test it and make some research.

Regards,

Ivan.
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[Full-disclosure] UK jails schizophrenic for refusal to decrypt files

2009-11-24 Thread Ivan .
The first person jailed under draconian UK police powers that
Ministers said were vital to battle terrorism and serious crime has
been identified by The Register as a schizophrenic science hobbyist
with no previous criminal record.

His crime was a persistent refusal to give counter-terrorism police
the keys to decrypt his computer files.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/24/ripa_jfl/

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[Full-disclosure] Climategate: how the MSM rep orted the greatest scandal in modern science – Telegraph Blogs

2009-11-22 Thread Ivan .
hackers providing a public service..

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100017451/climategate-how-the-msm-reported-the-greatest-scandal-in-modern-science/
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[Full-disclosure] Microsoft confirms first Windows 7 zero-day bug

2009-11-16 Thread Ivan .
http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/scrt/E9592E1A9719742ACC25766F0066B38D
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[Full-disclosure] Spying on Americans: Obama Endorses Bush Era Warrantless Wiretapping

2009-11-10 Thread Ivan .
In a Court filing late Friday night, the Obama Administration
attempted to dress up in new clothes its embrace of one of the worst
Bush Administration positions--that courts cannot be allowed to review
the National Security Agency's massive, well-documented program of
warrantless surveillance. In doing so it demonstrated that it will not
willingly set limits on its own power and reinforced the need for
Congress to step in and reform the so-called 'state secrets'
privilege. (Kevin Bankston, As Congress Considers State Secrets
Reform, Obama Admin Tries to Shut Down Yet Another Warrantless
Wiretapping Lawsuit, Electronic Frontier Foundation, November 2,
2009)

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticlecode=BUR20091106articleId=15941

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[Full-disclosure] UK surveillance plan to go ahead

2009-11-10 Thread Ivan .
The Home Office says it will push ahead with plans to ask
communications firms to monitor all internet use.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/8350660.stm

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Re: [Full-disclosure] How Prosecutors Wiretap Wall Street

2009-11-05 Thread Ivan .
some background

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2009/03/breaking-cyber/
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10046097-38.html
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2008/06/senate-debates/
http://www.lawandsecurity.org/publications/ForTheRecord/NSA_jan_07.pdf

and the list goes on

ahh the land of the free.

On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Paul Schmehl pschmehl_li...@tx.rr.comwrote:

 --On November 5, 2009 9:12:29 PM -0600 Chris r...@operamail.com wrote:
 
 
  and someone could sue you for burying your head up your ass.
  Fortunately, we have this list as proof.
 

 Oh my, aren't we clever.

  Getting back on topic, it is well-known, and proven, that the NSA has
  surveillence facilities inside  several U.S. telecom carriers.  You need
  only look inside one of ATT's PoPs in San Francisco for proof.
 

 You know this to be true because you've looked for yourself, right?  You
 didn't just take the world of a complete stranger quoted by a compliant
 press at face value, did you?

  Yes, the NSA might target non-citizens, however, without oversight, who
  is to know?  Don't mention FISA judges either. They have become a rubber
  stamp for wiretap requests with an approval rate of well over 99.99%.
 

 Sure, because we all know those rat bastards at the NSA and all those
 federal judges don't give a shit about the USA or freedom or personal
 rights.

 When you forget that the people who work in government are just like you,
 trying to make a living and do the best they can, it's easy to
 depersonalize them and demonize them as if they're all blackhearted evil
 turds.  Easy, that is, if you don't have much of a brain.

  The same applies to the NSLs issued by the FBI.  Not only are targets
  not permitted to talk about such NSLs, but they can't even acknowledge
  the existance of such NSLs.
 
  And yet, here you are asking for the very proof that cannot be provided.
 

 That's hilarious.  The surveillance program didn't even survive for four
 years after 9/11 before someone inside the NSA blew the whistle on the
 program.  Of course, even though they were working for those evil bastards
 somehow their altruism got the better of them and they revealed the
 truth about the program, despite the fact that they had sworn an oath to
 keep it a secret.  (And I'm sure they didn't get a dime for blabbing
 either!)

 And of course Congress knew nothing about it, even though they had been
 briefed about it dozens of times and never raised a single objection.

 Then of course, once the program had been revealed publicly, all those
 altruistic politicians immediately began investigating because they care
 so deeply about your privacy and your personal freedoms.  And then all the
 privacy experts, motivated by the purest of concerns, your personal
 privacy and freedoms, immediately sprung into action to protect you
 because they all care so deeply for you personally.

 Or maybe, just maybe, there was the ever-so-slightest twinge of politics
 involved.

 Of course we all know that Joe Wilson told the truth and George Bush lied.
 That should be obvious to any rational person, right?

 But we'll never know for sure if the whistleblowers were motivated by
 something other than altruism, because you're so deeply concerned about
 your personal privacy and freedom that it would never even occur to you to
 question the motives of anyone who agrees with your view of the world.

 The fact that you believe that only those who violate their oath of office
 are honest and only those who never violate their oath of office are
 dishonest blinds you to the possibility that the truth lies somewhere in
 between.  It's OK though.  So long as you don't apply that standard to
 your investments, you'll probably be able to retire OK.

  The only question I have for you is...
 
  Which government agency is paying your mortgage?

 The same one that is proposing to pay for your healthcare and control
 every other aspect of your life because you're too blind to see the forest
 for the trees.  You and millions of other blithering idiots who see
 nothing wrong with the government forcing you to buy insurance but
 everything wrong with them trying to keep terrorists from blowing your
 worthless ass up.

 Paul Schmehl, If it isn't already
 obvious, my opinions are my own
 and not those of my employer.
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Re: [Full-disclosure] How Prosecutors Wiretap Wall Street

2009-11-04 Thread Ivan .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WourPs56Shc

On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 1:48 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:

 On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:42:37 CST, Paul Schmehl said:
  You and millions of others love to conflate those issues with warrantless
  surveillance of US citizens for the purpose of obtaining evidence in a
 criminal
  investigation and then scream bloody murder about warrantless
 surveillance and
  intrusions of our rights.

 OK, so in your opinion we should sit back and accept the legal theory that
 I'm
 the President, and as Commander in Chief I can give orders contrary to the
 usual 4th Amendment restrictions (note carefully that there was *NOT* an
 actual formal declaration of war made - Congress merely authorized the use
 of
 force. Many constitutional law experts seem to think this makes a
 difference).

 So it is OK if as President, he decides to suspend habeus corpus?

 If it's *not* OK, how do you intend to complain once your corpus can't
 be habeased any more?

 The price of freedom is eternal vigilance -- Thomas Jefferson.

 In other words, the time to raise a fuss is *before* they go down the
 slippery slope, not once they're 3/4 of the way down and in an uncontrolled
 slide.

 When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a
 cross. -- Sinclair Lewis, 1935

 And that's why we raise a fuss.  You may wish to read Naomi Wolf's Fascist
 America in 10 easy steps:

 http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/apr/24/usa.comment

 And that's why we raise a fuss.

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[Full-disclosure] How Prosecutors Wiretap Wall Street

2009-11-03 Thread Ivan .
The answer is both more mundane and more alarming. Prosecutors are
using the FBI's massive surveillance system, DCSNet, which stands for
Digital Collection System Network. According to Wired magazine, this
system connects FBI wiretapping rooms to switches controlled by
traditional land-line operators, internet-telephony providers and
cellular companies. It can be used to instantly wiretap almost any
communications device in the U.S. — wireless or tethered.

http://www.wallstreetandtech.com/blog/archives/2009/10/how_prosecutors.html;jsessionid=ABTR4HPERGBDFQE1GHPCKHWATMY32JVN

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[Full-disclosure] H D Moore sells Metasploit: Open source project in commercial hands

2009-10-22 Thread Ivan .
http://risky.biz/metasploit_sold
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Re: [Full-disclosure] H D Moore sells Metasploit: Open source project in commercial hands

2009-10-22 Thread Ivan .
quick, wget the whole site before it all goes commercial

;-p

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 11:08 AM, James Lay j...@slave-tothe-box.netwrote:

  *From: *Rohit Patnaik quanti...@gmail.com
 *Date: *Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:52:57 -0500
 *To: *Ivan . ivan...@gmail.com
 *Cc: *Full-disclosure full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk
 *Subject: *Re: [Full-disclosure] H D Moore sells Metasploit: Open source
 project in commercial hands

 I don't really see this as a bad thing.  Metasploit's new hybrid license
 seems to force contributions to be open-sourced so Rapid7's contributions
 should flow back to the community.

 --Rohit Patnaik

 On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Ivan . ivan...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://risky.biz/metasploit_sold



 I’ve dealt with Rapid7...there were pushy and condescending on the phone
 since we weren’t interested in their (amazingly expensive) product.  It took
 months to get them to stop calling even after we told them several times we
 weren’t interested.  If they act like that with Metaslpoit...well...good
 luck.

 James

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[Full-disclosure] Yahoo! apologises for lap dance at hack event

2009-10-20 Thread Ivan .
yahoo rocks!

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/technology/technology-news/yahoo-apologises-for-lap-dance-at-hack-event-20091021-h7sr.html
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[Full-disclosure] Web-monitoring software gathers data on kid chats

2009-09-08 Thread Ivan .
Parents who install a leading brand of software to monitor their kids'
online activities may be unwittingly allowing the company to read
their children's chat messages — and sell the marketing data gathered.

Software sold under the Sentry and FamilySafe brands can read private
chats conducted through Yahoo, MSN, AOL and other services, and send
back data on what kids are saying about such things as movies, music
or video games. The information is then offered to businesses seeking
ways to tailor their marketing messages to kids.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5i5CjgMEdrwRm3JxeglUykMAHAYmAD9AGNVM00

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Re: [Full-disclosure] Free wlan sniffer for vista

2009-08-22 Thread Ivan .
track down ngsniff, not sure if it works on vista. no packet driver required

http://osdir.com/ml/security.penetration/2002-11/msg00028.html

On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Peter van Hooft 
ho...@natlab.research.philips.com wrote:

 Hi Tk,
 
 I would recommend grabbing WinTcpdum and the WinPcap libraries. This has
 worked for me in the past.
 
 http://www.winpcap.org/default.htm
 
 On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 06:07:40 -0700, TK ktriv...@msn.com wrote:
  I am looking for a free wireless sniffer on Vista. I have tried
 wireshark
 
  but it seems I cannot get this into promiscuous mode. I need to sniff
 all
 
  HTTP traffic of the wireless router
 
  Thanks in advance
 

 This won't help as wireshark uses winpcap to access the network device.

 Note that not all wireless chipsets support promiscuous mode.

 peter


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[Full-disclosure] Dirtiest Web Sites of Summer 2009

2009-08-19 Thread Ivan .
http://safeweb.norton.com/dirtysites

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[Full-disclosure] Former British cop 'has bank details of 40 million people'

2009-07-24 Thread Ivan .
http://www.news.com.au/technology/story/0,28348,25828444-5014239,00.html

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[Full-disclosure] Sniffing Browser History Without Javascript

2009-06-14 Thread Ivan .
Interesting!

http://it.slashdot.org/story/09/06/13/2125211/Sniffing-Browser-History-Without-Javascript

http://www.making-the-web.com/misc/sites-you-visit/nojs/
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[Full-disclosure] Kaminsky: MS security assessment tool is a 'game changer'

2009-03-22 Thread Ivan .
In case anyone missed it

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/03/20/microsoft_crash_tool/

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[Full-disclosure] The BBC acquired a botnet, but was it legal? - Update

2009-03-15 Thread Ivan .
According to Struan Robertson, a technology lawyer with Pinsent
Masons, in a posting on Out-Law.com, the BBC's statement that the
activity would only be illegal if those behind it had criminal intent
is not true. Robertson said The BBC appears to have broken the
Computer Misuse Act by causing 22,000 computers to send spam. It does
not matter that the emails were sent to the BBC's own accounts and
criminal intent is not necessary to establish an offence of
unauthorised access to a computer. However, Robertson does not think
the BBC will be punished for the action because the BBC's actions
probably caused no harm.

http://www.h-online.com/security/The-BBC-acquired-a-botnet-but-was-it-legal-Update--/news/112834

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