[Full-disclosure] Infosys TCS Wipro like companies don't know security basics?

2011-12-01 Thread Wonder Guy
Hi Security Experts,

I have a question about the security track record of Indian IT vendors like
Infosys, TCS, Wipro etc. An article about Indian IT vendors by an
ex-employee of one of these companies is circulating in the different NITs
(National Institute of Technology) of India today.

My doubt is about this part of the article from
http://susam.in/blog/re-infosys-tcs-or-wipro/#engineers :

Many claimed that I am wrong about the poor standard of training in
Infosys, TCS, or Wipro. I must tell them that I have attended some of
these training programmes. Among the many horror stories pertaining to
training in these companies, I'll share only one with you to make my point.
In the training assessments, the instructors set question papers
containing problems with code that invokes undefined behaviour and ask you
to predict its output. 'It Invokes undefined behaviour' is not provided as
an option you can select as the correct answer. Such training and knowledge
is not only inaccurate but also very dangerous if you care about robustness
and security of the software you create.

I am trying to verify this by using Secunia. I can find plenty of Microsoft
and Google security vulnerabilities [
http://secunia.com/advisories/search/?search=Microsoft+Google
http://secunia.com/advisories/search/?search=Microsoft+Google%C2%A0]
but none for Infosys TCS or Wipro [
http://secunia.com/advisories/search/?search=Infosys+TCS+Wipro
http://secunia.com/advisories/search/?search=Infosys+TCS+Wipro%C2%A0].
What is the matter here? Indian software vendors are the best in the whole
world in security matters or Secunia simply doesn't care about Indian
software vendors?
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Re: [Full-disclosure] Infosys TCS Wipro like companies don't know security basics?

2011-12-01 Thread Wonder Guy
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 10:37 PM, TAS p0wnsa...@gmail.com wrote:
 Wonder guy, the basis of your conclusion are as ridiculous as your question.

 Microsoft and Google are products companies. Atleast TCS and Wipro are not. 
 They are into offshore and managed business domains. Infosys is also into 
 making custom solutions and they are all closed source. And none of the 
 companies that you mentioned cater to the such a large audience as MS and 
 Google do.

 Are you going to start looking for every single company in secunia and come 
 up with such preposterous  conclusions?


Hi TAS,

I never made any conclusions. I only asked a question and it was not a
loaded question but a curious one. In case you missed it, here is the
question once again:

I am trying to verify this by using Secunia. I can find plenty of
Microsoft and Google security vulnerabilities [
http://secunia.com/advisories/search/?search=Microsoft+Google ] but
none for Infosys TCS or Wipro [
http://secunia.com/advisories/search/?search=Infosys+TCS+Wipro ]. What
is the matter here? Indian software vendors are the best in the whole
world in security matters or Secunia simply doesn't care about Indian
software vendors?

Thanks for the clarification that TCS and Wipro are not product
companies. But I heard that Infosys makes banking products. But
anyway, from all the replies to my email I am able to understand that
Secunia is not listing vendors catering to small part of the software
world. So that answers my question. Thanks TAS and everyone.

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