Re: [Full-disclosure] I'm not the troll i've been trolled
?!? There's only one clown here, he's called andrew/n3td3v. Go fuck yourself. 2009/1/12 andrew. wallace > Changing your email address to make it look like more people are > saying the same thing doesn't fool many people :) > > On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 11:34 PM, waveroad waveroad > wrote: > > If you dont leave your "FD experience" on this list will be much more > > miserable than it actually is :) > > > > A mentally stable person assume what he say. > > > > As i told you many times: Get The Fuck Out Of Here. > > > > 2009/1/12 andrew. wallace > >> > >> On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:59 PM, j-f sentier > wrote: > >> > "2009/1/12 andrew. wallace > >> >> > >> >> Can we wrap this thread up now and get back to business about 'the > >> >> threats'." > >> > > >> > Nop. > >> > How can we take one single word from you seriously, if you lies all > the > >> > time > >> > dude? > >> > I'm expecting you to leave as you said twice, like many others here > are > >> > also > >> > expecting. > >> > > >> > >> Swings and roundabouts. Like a dog chasing its own tail you persist. > >> > >> ___ > >> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > >> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > >> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > > > > > ___ > > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > > ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] I'm not the troll i've been trolled
If you dont leave your "FD experience" on this list will be much more miserable than it actually is :) A mentally stable person assume what he say. As i told you many times: Get The Fuck Out Of Here. 2009/1/12 andrew. wallace > On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:59 PM, j-f sentier wrote: > > "2009/1/12 andrew. wallace > >> > >> Can we wrap this thread up now and get back to business about 'the > >> threats'." > > > > Nop. > > How can we take one single word from you seriously, if you lies all the > time > > dude? > > I'm expecting you to leave as you said twice, like many others here are > also > > expecting. > > > > Swings and roundabouts. Like a dog chasing its own tail you persist. > > ___ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] I'm not the troll i've been trolled
It's pleasant to see you sink alone in your own shit you've created :) ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] n3td3v profile...
"From: n3td3v Have you nothing better to do than do what you do with serious researchers like me?"> "From: n3td3v Subject: [Full-disclosure] It's time for me to go now I don't know how to hack and I don't have any technical abilities I must go now before MI5 take me away in a van and dump my body in the sea. " --> how fucked up is that? :) 2009/1/12 n3td3v > I don't think anyone on full-disclosure is a troll apart from > urel...@gmail.com, the rest of us are pretty serious about security > and what we talk about. I know i'm serious about what I say and i'm > strong in my convictions about what I say, even if you don't always > agree with my points of view. There is no need to go around abusing me > and say you hate me and turning a list against me, just because you > don't agree with my opinion, how fucked up is that? Look at your own > conduct if you want to talk about mental illness. The amount of > bullshit that is made up about me just because you don't agree with my > opinions on security is amazing. Have you nothing better to do than do > what you do with serious researchers like me? If you don't agree with > my opinion about a security industry software license, just ignore. If > you don't agree on anything I say, just ignore. Don't send out a hate > campaign and rally people against me, thats the real fuck up. > > On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 4:35 AM, Biz Marqee wrote: > > Informative, interesting and more to the point - its spot on. His self > > medicating with illegal drugs also falls right in line with this.. > > > > and even assuming that this profile is all incorrect and this IS some > troll > > winding us all up, he invariably has some mental illness. no one sane - > > whether a "joke" or not - rants on and on and on to a bunch of people who > > detest him.. maybe for a while but not for years on end. > > > > n3td3v, get help or exit life. > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at :59 PM, - o z - wrote: > >> > >> Andrew is a special kind of crazya friend of mine and former > >> colleague who I highly respect (practicing Psych., > >> who profiles individuals for a real doggone intel agency...alas, not > >> MI-Jive) labeled Andrew as a probable > >> schizophrenic with grandiose idealizations. > >> > >> These types of people usually can't hold a job. The most active > >> period of delusions occur from 17-33, some > >> think the drop-off may be due to decreased levels of testosterone as > >> they age. Intelligence agency intrigue & innuendo is a classic > >> manifestation, along with imaginary friends, martyr glamorizations, > >> alternate personalities and repeated exclamations that they will > >> curtail their > >> behaviors, only to come back, roaringly, foisting themselves upon a > >> group/friend circle with a different guise or mission. > >> Some have said it resembles alcoholic behavior in the promises "to > >> quit..." > >> > >> They constantly need an audience, since 'friends' are temporal at > >> best...they churn through relationships like shit > >> flowing through a goose...as people become estranged/exasperated with > >> the constant epiphany's, revelations and > >> God-like interpretations. > >> > >> Stranger yet is that people like this can be wonderfully charming in > >> real-lifefunny for awhile, but as they age, they > >> start losing boyish charms that previously were > >> forgiven...promulgating even more outlandish behavior as grow older. > >> Sound familiar? We have a baseline here, folks. Also notice he > >> hasn't written anything technical -- it's mostly > >> outlandish hypothesis with pointers to..not infosec...but Andrew. > >> > >> They usually refuse medications to control themselves, because it > >> dulls the essence of what they're trying to portray: > >> someone mysterious, withholding critical information, being the sole- > >> source of knowledge that might somehow change > >> the world. > >> > >> IMHO, I would venture to say Andrew has attempted suicide -- his type > >> is usually unsuccessful, indeed, it's not a suicide > >> attempt but an attention-seeking event. > >> > >> He's bat-shit-fucking-crazy-nuts, but sane enough to fool someone > >> unfamiliar with his MO. That's what is so aggravating about this > >> particular form of mental illness...once again, as long as there's a > >> receptive audience, the monkey will feel the compulsion to > >> perform. It's akin to sexual gratification for him to see he's the > >> subject of people's ire...don't forget that. > >> > >> This type of person will emotionally soul-suck everyone he comes in > >> contact with, and make up dramas if only to suck more > >> people in, because really, it's all about the adulation of n3td3v/ > >> Andrew/, nothing else. > >> > >> Solutions: There's a few, but I wouldn't want to be responsible for > >> the end result; once again, n3td3v is a human たまごっち > >> (Tamagotchi) and should be treated accordingly. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _
Re: [Full-disclosure] It's time for me to go now
"I don't know how to hack and I don't have any technical abilities" No suprised at all . "... before MI5 take me away in a van and dump my body in the sea" That would be great. 2009/1/11 n3td3v > I don't know how to hack and I don't have any technical abilities I > must go now before MI5 take me away in a van and dump my body in the > sea. > > ___ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] WTF people?
Why dont you post under your real nick aka n3tcr4p ? you think it make n3tcr4p kid more credible in some ways ? 0r m4yb3 5h4|| 1 5p34k |1k3 7h15 7o m4k3 you und3r574nd my p01n7 ? 1 don7 know wh3n 1 |ook 47 your w3b5173 1 wond3r . 2009/1/11 > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > You tell me. > > On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:30:17 -0500 Pete Licoln > wrote: > >What's the point with MI5 n3td3v ? > > > >Regards Pete > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Charset: UTF8 > Note: This signature can be verified at https://www.hushtools.com/verify > Version: Hush 3.0 > > wpwEAQMCAAYFAklqm4cACgkQynWwk3/AtyOg/gP+KWIstvs71K7K+cvK/9bo/tRsYBC9 > iCu8diF/TpkXYvnEPXoV+IRH06bJxqhGkkuvE4zBhj0HtTlKMO5MmYPuY2j9GiBWIM3M > vfYvbxBaZS8pZGJuoU8nbCYag8pXzf1FaEeNZhTT2J8Lhpy4JD12Duxnq2nnEtJL+Oz/ > UCQxaPk= > =fsii > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > -- > Click for free info on online masters degrees and make up to $150K/ year > > http://tagline.hushmail.com/fc/PnY6qxtpjZXJLh7RrSDxAfzH8U8VbYeKiNKjN2pvOBEY7XUQCex7a/ > > ___ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] WTF people?
N3td3v other alias spotted. 2009/1/11 > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > i find the surname mcafee to be a turn-on here on the security > mailing list, mister good hacker:))) > > a/s/l? > > > On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 16:49:20 -0500 Will McAfee commun...@thegoodhacker.com> wrote: > >I have lurked for some time, and really, this list has become > >pathetic > >due to it's hiijacking by two or three trolls with nothing better > >to > >do than destroy the relevant signal to noise ratio. This list is > >not > >about MI5, the NSA, or Mossad unless there is something practical > >to > >be learned from them. I do not care about the information war > >between > >Russia and Georgia unless it is about the systems used. Think of > >this > >list as like a trade correspondence journal, not a public > >tackboard. > > > >Sent from my iPhone > > > >___ > >Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > >Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > >Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Charset: UTF8 > Version: Hush 3.0 > Note: This signature can be verified at https://www.hushtools.com/verify > > wpwEAQMCAAYFAklqcbUACgkQynWwk3/AtyOa+wP/YQJlJsabFMRjU8FEs6V+t4eEwkW0 > QHX6NsZkryCvIgNWKjPjCTq25n/sS8JKr9oKFJybeyhgY9ADMJ94rLspQU6pQetJnfko > rkmOnzyUOPzXdmBDJH/34qe3K55k8v7f7OeWLu3xosxWP8iWJwQWR2gXF11hELGJKbJ/ > 9Zzisvg= > =cJJ3 > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > -- > Click for free info on online doctorate degrees and make up to $250k/ year. > > http://tagline.hushmail.com/fc/PnY6qxudoSZgDEE0yj7ARzIKdHrLoCs88ZzhzE4rU3tdHkjzM8yso/ > > ___ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] o lookie, n3td3v is lying elsewhere now
N3td3v quotes: "I'm leaving full-disclosure because of the abuse.". "Won't be back on this list, n3td3v will continue elsewhere on the internet, just not "HERE".". "This "blogger" that you don't take seriously is gone." Wow you can't pass a week without saying shit on FD ? Stay out of there you fucking retarded. 2008/12/30 n3td3v > Ureleet was just stirring up shit to get a reaction, he doesn't > actually think im a liar nor does anyone else. Robert Lemos formally > called me a troll, but his and Neal Krawetz credibility to judge is > now in tatters. Would you really want them working in your > intelligence service as a decision maker? > > On a side note: Would you really want to be an active poster on Funsec > now after what Israel is doing in Gaza right now? I think Gadi will be > keeping a low profile from now on. Mossad is destroying Hamas, the > terrorist organisation they created back in the day, but what's wrong > is destroying the Gaza strip to do it and taking innocent lives. When > you've got a terrorist organisation who has the popular vote, how are > you going to keep the peace even if you destroy Hamas? It's like Iraq > all over again... > > Regards, > > On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 1:05 PM, Mike Preston wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > While I'm not going to outright say you are lying, you generally don't > > cite sources and spout your *opinions* as if they are fact. > > > > These together cause many people to look at you as, if not a lame > > wannabe, at least not professional. > > > > I have been a lurker on and off here for a while and while I don't post > > much at least I choose not to post inaccurate statements and opinions. > > > > Mike Preston > > > > n3td3v wrote: > >> Ureleet said: > >>> o lookie, n3td3v is lying elsewhere now > >> > >> What have I lied about? It's Robert Lemos and Neal Krawetz who lied, > >> but then people had an expectation of me because they believed the > >> lies that they told. Then I get some idiot on full-disclosure called > >> Ureleet complaining because I didn't live upto the expectations talked > >> about in the Robert Lemos and Neal Krawetz smear campaign. > >> > >> You believe what you read in the media, it's a sad day for you Ureleet > >> that I don't live upto your expectation of me, just because Robert > >> Lemos and Neal Krawetz say something doesn't mean it's true. Maybe > >> your anger that I don't meet your expectations of me should be focused > >> at Robert Lemos and Neal Krawetz and not me. > >> > >> This is what it's all about with you on full-disclosure, an > >> expectation you have of me because of Robert Lemos and Neal Krawetz. > >> > >> Please vent your anger to those parties who smear campaigned me and > >> not I who has never lied about anything. > >> > >> ___ > >> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > >> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > >> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > >> > > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) > > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > > > iEYEARECAAYFAklaHK4ACgkQvhwPecbXDdxdFgCghVicBuBnGRvv6u3sRUmnOICP > > YdwAnRJO3TD5nXF1acv8b//oXCBN8sO2 > > =evoH > > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > > > ___ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] This list has run its course
Without this clown, it will be a bit more professional ... 2008/12/23, James Matthews : > > My spam folder is very happy! I wonder what the list will become now... > > On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 11:34 AM, James Rankin wrote: > >> Well just f*ck off then and cease babbling about it. Please, make my Spam >> folder happy. >> >> 2008/12/23 n3td3v >> >>> This mailing list is no longer credible for serious researchers to be >>> on. I'll be elsewhere, just not "HERE". >>> >>> On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 6:07 AM, Biz Marqee >>> wrote: >>> > you're obviously a lying cunt or you would have ceased posting to this >>> list >>> > already. >>> > >>> > >>> > On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 4:15 PM, n3td3v wrote: >>> >> >>> >> n3td3v continues on the internet elsewhere just not "HERE". >>> >> >>> >> On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 4:37 AM, Biz Marqee >>> wrote: >>> >> > Good job faggot, its only been 3 years coming. >>> >> > >>> >> > I believe it was Immortal Technique who said it best, "Just kill >>> >> > yourself!" >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 9:53 AM, n3td3v >>> wrote: >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Real researchers who should be taken seriously aren't taken >>> seriously >>> >> >> anymore. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> I'm leaving full-disclosure because of the abuse. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> It's just turned into flames to spin people up, I don't get a >>> chance >>> >> >> to talk about security or my skill set. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> It's abuse after abuse after abuse. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Sorry, I can't take it anymore. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Got to go, bye. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> ___ >>> >> >> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >>> >> >> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >>> >> >> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> > >>> > >>> >>> ___ >>> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >>> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >>> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >>> >> >> >> ___ >> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >> > > > > -- > http://www.astorandblack.com/ > > ___ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] o lookie, n3td3v is lying elsewhere now
Mine is that one: http://www.bigblueball.com/forums/search.php?searchid=903472 http://www.bigblueball.com/forums/bigblueball-lounge/27558-n3td3vs-reputation-d.html etc .. N3td3v's quote of the day : "Trust me, if you want to be rude, i'll be rude back to you, and if you keep doing it, i'll make sure this website gets hacked." (http://www.bigblueball.com/forums/forum-support/28972-serious-post.html) It's funny to hear that from a guy who say: "we're letting the bad guys win, whitehat powaa, i'm serious, MI5 will hire me one day, etc" 2008/12/22 Ureleet > this is a favorite of mine tho: > > http://forum.crime-research.org/-vp3073.html?sid=172c1ebba153817877ca67d3de837933 > > ___ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] We're letting the bad guys win
You're the fucking idiot. GET OUT OF HERE 2008/12/9, n3td3v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Paul Schmehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --On Tuesday, December 09, 2008 00:25:18 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > > >> > >> On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 04:03:57 GMT, n3td3v said: > >>> We need to stop this back and forth fighting its making infosec look > >>> bad, this isn't what infosec should be about. > >> > >> It's making one very small insignificant corner of infosec look bad. > >> > >> Let's keep a sense of perspective, guys. > > > > Or, to look at it another way, it's tying up all the idiots in one place > and > > keeping the rest of infosec unsullied. :-) > > > > > I agree, > But full-disclosure shouldn't be full of idiots so why do we let it be > that way. It's because we reply to them that it happens. I was > gullible and naive to reply to them, i'm not replying to them anymore. > > > ___ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] question
If there's a weirdo around here, it's definitly n3td3v. And no i was thinking you was spamming again the mailing list with your usual crap thus i don't need any help around, but what's sure is that you trully need mental assistance. 2008/11/9, n3td3v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > are you one of those weirdos who tries to speak on behalf of an email > list and when a question is emailed to you, you don't answer it and > instead attempt to get the list to answer it on your behalf that you > think you're representing the opinion of? > > > On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 9:58 PM, waveroad waveroad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Ask this question to your psy. > > > > > > > > 2008/11/9, n3td3v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> > >> what is your problem with me? > > > > > > > ___ > > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > > > ___ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] question
Ask this question to your psy. 2008/11/9, n3td3v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > what is your problem with me? > ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] n3td3v warns sans is being brought into disrepute by pauldotcom
It's not a troll dude, it's a reality, welcome in the real world. 2008/11/9, n3td3v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Don't feed the troll > > > On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 7:05 PM, vulcanius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hrmmm, why not. Put me on your little black list of people with common > sense > > who know you're a moron and want you off the FD list. > > > > On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 12:48 PM, n3td3v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> Are you declaring yourself an enemy of n3td3v? > >> > >> On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 5:44 PM, waveroad waveroad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> wrote: > >> > You don't understand, you are the investigator of this topic. > >> > Coming from somebody else will be different and i wont say a shit > about > >> > it. > >> > The problem is that you collect the shit, you've created, and you > don't > >> > like > >> > it. > >> > That's why as many others here i think you're a real joke. > >> > >> ___ > >> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > >> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > >> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > > > > > ___ > > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > > > ___ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] n3td3v warns sans is being brought into disrepute by pauldotcom
You don't understand, you are the investigator of this topic. Coming from somebody else will be different and i wont say a shit about it. The problem is that you collect the shit, you've created, and you don't like it. That's why as many others here i think you're a real joke. 2008/11/9, n3td3v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > this is a thread about pauldotcom that you're in, so the question is > about pauldotcom. don't comment in a thread about pauldotcom if you're > not a supporter of them? > > are you a supporter of pauldotcom? you are in a thread and are going > against what im saying, that makes you a supporter of pauldotcom by > default. > > get a grip, and keep your mouth shut if you're not a supporter of > pauldotcom. you're making yourself out to be a supporter of pauldotcom > and many people don't like them, so its your choice how you proceed in > the future but i ask you to take further comment with caution to the > wind because your comments could well backfire on you. > > > On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 4:51 PM, waveroad waveroad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > The question isn't about pauldotcom > > > ___ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] n3td3v warns sans is being brought into disrepute by pauldotcom
>>This isn't n3tcr4p, this is a wide issue shared by many people including a british telecom engineer. You're a n3tcr4p. The question isn't about pauldotcom, it's about you n3tcr4p, we dont want your stupid trolling_point_of_view/polution here. You have a mailing list ? STAY THERE AND SPAM YOUR FRIENDS MAILBOX . Once again, Get the fuck out of here and take your fucking ritalin. 2008/11/9, n3td3v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > n3td3v is stead fast and won't be moving stance because of pauldotcom > supporters. > > > On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 3:43 PM, Daniel Marsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Your face, it's diseased. > > > > You're a dickhead. > > > > You can't cure what you are or how you look. > > > > But you can commit suicide. > > > > Try it. > > > > -- > > > > http://buymeahouse.stiw.org/ > > > > > > > ___ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] n3td3v warns sans is being brought into disrepute by pauldotcom
No one care about n3tcr4p Get the fuck out of here. 2008/11/8, Biz Marqee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Dont worry about n3td3v, hes probably been up all night abusing drugs and > cant find his return key... that or hes typing one handed trying to fend off > his fathers sex attacks. > > On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 10:26 AM, nnp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Idiot says something about group I haven't heard of. >> >> Learn to use line breaks arsehole! >> >> On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 6:47 PM, n3td3v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > pauldotcom are gangsters masquerading as security professionals, this >> > is the opinion of n3td3v. they have a bad name not only because of >> > n3td3v but its widely thought by others that pauldotcom are >> > questionable entities, this is why n3td3v believes that its a bad >> > thing that sans are associated with them, and in time could start to >> > bring down the respected name of the sans institute. there are already >> > misdemeanors who have managed to get into sans through the internet >> > storm center door who are in support of pauldotcom enterprises. n3td3v >> > predicts the longer sans are associated with pauldotcom the greater >> > they eat away at the credibility and respect that sans built up before >> > pauldotcom came onto the scene. there are good people at sans and this >> > is why n3td3v is concerned that the good people at sans are being >> > bought into disrepute because of pauldotcom and entities who have >> > crept into sans through the sans handlers gateway. n3td3v suggests >> > both sides consider their positions before moving forward and having >> > future association with one another. there have been multiple reports >> > on the full-disclosure list that pauldotcom hasn't been upto scratch, >> > its time for sans to start to take feedback seriously that is being >> > presented to them and consider dropping pauldotcom as a partner of the >> > sans brand. >> > >> > ___ >> > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >> > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >> > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> http://www.unprotectedhex.com >> http://www.smashthestack.org >> >> ___ >> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >> > > > ___ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] Two bulletins from Microsoft on Patch Tuesday
You can be ""monitoring"" the scene since 20 years if you want to, it's not for that your point will be valuable. And actually it is not, also this is about logic. See you're wrong again. Get the fuck out of here. 2008/11/6, n3td3v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > i've been monitoring the scene since 1999 so what do you mean no > experience? i make that about 10 years experience if my math is > correct. > > > On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 12:48 AM, Biz Marqee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Do you even understand why people dont like you? It is because you have > all > > these crackpot ideas but no experience to back it up. All your ideas only > > make sense from a theoretical standpoint, but in practicality most will > > fail. > > > > > On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 11:31 AM, n3td3v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> blackhats like you will always hate on me, so i just ignore the > >> negative responses i get. > > > > > ___ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] Two bulletins from Microsoft on Patch Tuesday
That's a good try, you play the oppressed card, Calimero sayed it: life is so injust. To bad that's not the real reason. You're polluating this mailing list since a couple of years, there's even a profiling Pdf dedicated to you (amnesic reminder: www.hackerfactor.com/papers/who_is_n3td3v.pdf) now it's enough, it's not a question about white/grey/blue/black hat, it's about a fucking morron named n3td3v. So please consider my past advice : Get The Fuck Out Of Here ,you have no friends here. 2008/11/6, n3td3v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > blackhats like you will always hate on me, so i just ignore the > negative responses i get. > ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] Two bulletins from Microsoft on Patch Tuesday
Shut the fuck up We're tired to hear your shit dude. Why don't you just keep on squatting your fucking mailing list with your friends ? You have no friends here, and you're not welcome, get the fuck out of here. ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
[Full-disclosure] RE : Time to patch Windows boxes with MS08-067
Wow, can you give me your pusher phone number ? 2008/10/24 n3td3v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > "we" (the community) shouldn't be playing into the hacker spirit of > things. by increasing your threat level publicly plays into the hacker > mind-set that they can *take over* and be causing problems on a wider > scale. we should be dampening the hacker spirit by not letting them > visually see anyone panicking or there being an increased level of > concern. don't give the overall aura that hackers can have an affect > on us, and that even though we might be working hard behind the scenes > in an increased level of busi-ness, this shouldn't be communicated > outward to the hacker community, as it gives satisfaction to the > hacker community as a whole that they are beating us down. its about > psyops against the enemy, not that the threat level is not there, just > don't communicate your fears and concerns outward to the hacker > community, not just to those hackers willing to take part in attacks, > but just everyone on looking and thinking, "look at them increasing > their threat level because of "hackers""... don't give them that > satisfaction and morale boost.---n3td3v. > On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 3:16 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 23:29:33 BST, n3td3v said: > >> as soon as you rate, threat level something, the bad guys have won... > >> its time to rethink public rating and threat levels. > > > > No, the bad guys win if they manage to pwn or DoS one of my systems or > users. > > Why do you think they win if we assign a threat level to something? > > > > ___ > > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > > > ___ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
[Full-disclosure] Fwd: ureleet
-- Forwarded message -- From: waveroad waveroad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 2008/10/22 Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] ureleet To: Sigma & Omicron & Beta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Urleet & n3td3v why dont you fix your problems privatly ? There' enought crap in this FD list, and there's no need to share theses dummy emails Thanks ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
[Full-disclosure] n3td3v is a ...?
Well folks why spend more time on a frederik diggle like ? Why do you give to n3td3v what he deserve ? ( attention ) Why would you let this full-disclosure mailing-list getting more polluated than it is ? Anyways,3 questions,answer is easy in theory, but pratically ... You'll always have a Calimero in the crew saying " life is so unjust ". Ignore them, and anyways i hate chicken ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
