Re: [Full-disclosure] 70 million computers are using Windows 98 rightnow

2006-07-11 Thread Cardoso
Let's check some realtime stats...

BoingBoing.net releases it's stats...

http://www.boingboing.net/stats/awstats.boingboing.net.osdetail.html


Windows XP  3197250861.1 %  
Windows NT  167228  0.3 %   
Windows Me  208016  0.3 %   
Windows Codename Longhorn   77667
Windows CE  32730   0 % 
Windows 98  616027  1.1 %   
Windows 95  12562   0 % 
Windows 2003289806  0.5 %   
Windows 20002830034 5.4 %   
Windows 3.xx350 0 %

On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 13:43:42 -0400
"Larry Seltzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

LS> >>http://www.thecounter.com/stats/2006/July/os.php
LS>  
LS> Just what the hell am I supposed to be worried about? I'm not running any
LS> Win98 systems.
LS>  
LS> And by the way, you trust these numbers? Why would you assume they are
LS> accurate? Do you really think there are more WebTV than Windows ME users?
LS> More than 3 times as many Windows 3.x users as UNIX users?

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RE: [Full-disclosure] 70 million computers are using Windows 98 rightnow

2006-07-11 Thread Larry Seltzer



>>http://www.thecounter.com/stats/2006/July/os.php 
Just 
what the hell am I supposed to be worried about? I'm not running any Win98 
systems.
 
And by 
the way, you trust these numbers? Why would you assume they are accurate? Do you 
really think there are more WebTV than Windows ME users? More than 3 times as 
many Windows 3.x users as UNIX users?
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Re: [Full-disclosure] 70 million computers are using Windows 98 rightnow

2006-07-11 Thread Morning Wood
Windows 98 has no remote exploits, only client side attacks ( IE, OE, WMP 
and 3rd party apps )
( try sticking a win98 box in a dmz or direct to the Internet... It wont get 
owned ). I dont think it is that huge of an issue that they are "abandoning" 
it's users.


The impending abandonment of support for Win98 has been comming for at 
least 2 years

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/lifecycle/default.mspx
http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3298741

As a matter of fact I have a Win98 box just for a game ( Descent2 on 3dfx 
!!! ) and my TV tuner.


Replace IE and OE with open source replacements, and the platform could be a 
low cost alternative that would also carry a fair degree of security for 
those that would like to deploy it.


One suggestion to Microsoft would be to make Win98 ( and Dos 6.2x ) 
available as a freeware OS since they will no longer be burdened by support, 
patches and etc anyway. Replace IE and OE with open source replacements, and 
the platform could be a low cost alternative that would also carry a fair 
degree of security for those that would like to deploy it.


They could even open up some source code that is not used by the currently 
supported OS's, that could bring a good deal of support and development by 
the community.


my2bits,
MW



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RE: [Full-disclosure] 70 million computers are using Windows 98 rightnow

2006-07-11 Thread Larry Seltzer
Personally I doubt there are any Win98 systems out there connected to the
Internet that aren't already infected with something. The loss of support is
largely a moot issue.

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