[Full-disclosure] Apple ptrace panic PoC - R.I.P str0ke

2009-11-04 Thread Micheal Turner
We are mourning a good friend today. I first begun talking to str0ke when I 
started publishing exploit codes onto this mailing list, he would always be 
polite and friendly in his emails. I got to know him over the years and am 
saddened by his departure, he contributed to the exploit scene and hacking 
subculture in a huge way. The last time I talked with him I asked him if I 
could interview him for my blog, he laughed and said he should be interviewing 
the exploit writers since he didnt do anything. That was str0ke and str0ke did 
alot, he always fought for the rights of the exploit developers and his website 
was the bread and butter of many a hackers day. He will sadly be missed by many 
people, hackers  friends.


At least now we can post exploits without that damn // milw0rm.com comment 
being added to the end!!! ;-) I joke, this code is dedicated to you str0ke. 
R.I.P my friend.


http://www.hackerfantastic.com/archive/exploits/prdelka-vs-APPLE-ptracepanic.c



  

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Re: [Full-disclosure] Apple ptrace panic PoC - R.I.P str0ke

2009-11-04 Thread webDEViL
A very sad news indeed.


On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Micheal Turner wh1t3h...@yahoo.co.ukwrote:

 We are mourning a good friend today. I first begun talking to str0ke when I
 started publishing exploit codes onto this mailing list, he would always be
 polite and friendly in his emails. I got to know him over the years and am
 saddened by his departure, he contributed to the exploit scene and hacking
 subculture in a huge way. The last time I talked with him I asked him if I
 could interview him for my blog, he laughed and said he should be
 interviewing the exploit writers since he didnt do anything. That was str0ke
 and str0ke did alot, he always fought for the rights of the exploit
 developers and his website was the bread and butter of many a hackers day.
 He will sadly be missed by many people, hackers  friends.


 At least now we can post exploits without that damn // milw0rm.com comment
 being added to the end!!! ;-) I joke, this code is dedicated to you str0ke.
 R.I.P my friend.



 http://www.hackerfantastic.com/archive/exploits/prdelka-vs-APPLE-ptracepanic.c





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Re: [Full-disclosure] Apple ptrace panic PoC - R.I.P str0ke

2009-11-04 Thread Micheal Turner
It seems the whole thing was a Hoax rumor put about by people who I can only 
describe as pure evil. Glad to know he is fine. 

--- On Wed, 4/11/09, webDEViL w3bd3...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: webDEViL w3bd3...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Apple ptrace panic PoC - R.I.P str0ke
 To: Micheal Turner wh1t3h...@yahoo.co.uk
 Cc: full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk
 Date: Wednesday, 4 November, 2009, 1:39 PM
 A very sad news indeed.
 
  
 On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 6:49 PM,
 Micheal Turner wh1t3h...@yahoo.co.uk
 wrote:
 
 We are
 mourning a good friend today. I first begun talking to
 str0ke when I started publishing exploit codes onto this
 mailing list, he would always be polite and friendly in his
 emails. I got to know him over the years and am saddened by
 his departure, he contributed to the exploit scene and
 hacking subculture in a huge way. The last time I talked
 with him I asked him if I could interview him for my blog,
 he laughed and said he should be interviewing the exploit
 writers since he didnt do anything. That was str0ke and
 str0ke did alot, he always fought for the rights of the
 exploit developers and his website was the bread and butter
 of many a hackers day. He will sadly be missed by many
 people, hackers  friends.
 
 
 
 At least now we can post exploits without that damn // milw0rm.com comment 
 being
 added to the end!!! ;-) I joke, this code is dedicated to
 you str0ke. R.I.P my friend.
 
 
 
 http://www.hackerfantastic.com/archive/exploits/prdelka-vs-APPLE-ptracepanic.c
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Full-disclosure] Apple ptrace panic PoC - R.I.P str0ke

2009-11-04 Thread BlackHawk
http://twitter.com/str0ke

It has happened for rgod an now with str0ke.. in both case they are
alive, and in both case there are idiots/trolls who claims the
opposite..

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Re: [Full-disclosure] Apple ptrace panic PoC - R.I.P str0ke

2009-11-04 Thread frank^2
On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Micheal Turner wh1t3h...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 It seems the whole thing was a Hoax rumor put about by people who I can only 
 describe as pure evil. Glad to know he is fine.

What's pure evil about exploiting the ease by which one can spread
misinformation? If anything, it exposes how willing even a community
like this is to believe a single blogpost and spread it around without
truly confirming its origins.

I was trolled, I have lost. Feel free to admit it yourself instead of
calling this prank pure evil.

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Re: [Full-disclosure] Apple ptrace panic PoC - R.I.P str0ke

2009-11-04 Thread Micheal Turner
Its evil. Making people believe that someone is dead, publicly, and placing 
obituaries online shows no regard for the thoughts  feelings of the person 
being trolled or the others who may read them. 

In a community where whispers and hear-say can even get SANS to look for an 
OpenSSH 0day doing-the-rounds, spreading 'misinformation' about a well-liked 
individual who worked on a project for the community is unpleasant - making out 
they are dead is just horrible.

There are people at the end of the computers. Don't ever forget it.

--- On Wed, 4/11/09, frank^2 fra...@dc949.org wrote:

 From: frank^2 fra...@dc949.org
 Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Apple ptrace panic PoC - R.I.P str0ke
 To: Micheal Turner wh1t3h...@yahoo.co.uk
 Cc: full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk
 Date: Wednesday, 4 November, 2009, 11:08 PM
 On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 1:58 PM,
 Micheal Turner wh1t3h...@yahoo.co.uk
 wrote:
  It seems the whole thing was a Hoax rumor put about by
 people who I can only describe as pure evil. Glad to know he
 is fine.
 
 What's pure evil about exploiting the ease by which one
 can spread
 misinformation? If anything, it exposes how willing even a
 community
 like this is to believe a single blogpost and spread it
 around without
 truly confirming its origins.
 
 I was trolled, I have lost. Feel free to admit it yourself
 instead of
 calling this prank pure evil.
 


  

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Re: [Full-disclosure] Apple ptrace panic PoC - R.I.P str0ke

2009-11-04 Thread frank^2
On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Micheal Turner wh1t3h...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 Its evil. Making people believe that someone is dead, publicly, and placing 
 obituaries online shows no regard for the thoughts  feelings of the person 
 being trolled or the others who may read them.

 In a community where whispers and hear-say can even get SANS to look for an 
 OpenSSH 0day doing-the-rounds, spreading 'misinformation' about a 
 well-liked individual who worked on a project for the community is unpleasant 
 - making out they are dead is just horrible.

 There are people at the end of the computers. Don't ever forget it.


This is kind of a silly tangent to be having an argument about on this
list, so I'll try to make this my last comment on the matter.

It may be a little semantic, but I feel you're confusing wickedness
with a lack of empathy. Evil implies that the intent behind the prank
was to cause emotional harm. It's certainly detestable that the prank
was based in making people assume that str0ke was dead, but I'm
doubtful that the purpose of its spread was to cause harm. I hate to
be That Guy That Explains The Joke, but I'm pretty sure the purpose
was to mock the fact that a) str0ke has been quiet for a long while
publicly and b) milw0rm hasn't been updated for a lengthy period of
time for yet-to-be explained reasons. (I think v3n0m piped in a while
back and said they were taking care of the backlog, but that's about
all I remember.)

While the line between apathy towards others' emotions and intent to
truly cause harm to one's emotions can be blurred, I don't think it's
particularly fair to call the perpetrators of this prank evil. Evil
is taking joy in the suffering of others. The intent of trolling is to
get a specific reaction from a crafted falsehood or comment-- it
doesn't necessarily follow that the expected reaction here was
emotional harm. So given the circumstances, I feel it's more accurate
to say they just simply didn't care.

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Re: [Full-disclosure] Apple ptrace panic PoC - R.I.P str0ke

2009-11-04 Thread Micheal Turner
Did you and them get your degree from the same university of trolls?

I have mistaken nothing for nothing. Fuck you. 

--- On Thu, 5/11/09, frank^2 fra...@dc949.org wrote:

 From: frank^2 fra...@dc949.org
 Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Apple ptrace panic PoC - R.I.P str0ke
 To: Micheal Turner wh1t3h...@yahoo.co.uk
 Cc: full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk
 Date: Thursday, 5 November, 2009, 12:50 AM
 On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 4:13 PM,
 Micheal Turner wh1t3h...@yahoo.co.uk
 wrote:
  Its evil. Making people believe that someone is dead,
 publicly, and placing obituaries online shows no regard for
 the thoughts  feelings of the person being trolled or
 the others who may read them.
 
  In a community where whispers and hear-say can even
 get SANS to look for an OpenSSH 0day doing-the-rounds,
 spreading 'misinformation' about a well-liked individual who
 worked on a project for the community is unpleasant - making
 out they are dead is just horrible.
 
  There are people at the end of the computers. Don't
 ever forget it.
 
 
 This is kind of a silly tangent to be having an argument
 about on this
 list, so I'll try to make this my last comment on the
 matter.
 
 It may be a little semantic, but I feel you're confusing
 wickedness
 with a lack of empathy. Evil implies that the intent behind
 the prank
 was to cause emotional harm. It's certainly detestable that
 the prank
 was based in making people assume that str0ke was dead, but
 I'm
 doubtful that the purpose of its spread was to cause harm.
 I hate to
 be That Guy That Explains The Joke, but I'm pretty sure the
 purpose
 was to mock the fact that a) str0ke has been quiet for a
 long while
 publicly and b) milw0rm hasn't been updated for a lengthy
 period of
 time for yet-to-be explained reasons. (I think v3n0m piped
 in a while
 back and said they were taking care of the backlog, but
 that's about
 all I remember.)
 
 While the line between apathy towards others' emotions and
 intent to
 truly cause harm to one's emotions can be blurred, I don't
 think it's
 particularly fair to call the perpetrators of this prank
 evil. Evil
 is taking joy in the suffering of others. The intent of
 trolling is to
 get a specific reaction from a crafted falsehood or
 comment-- it
 doesn't necessarily follow that the expected reaction here
 was
 emotional harm. So given the circumstances, I feel it's
 more accurate
 to say they just simply didn't care.
 


  

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Re: [Full-disclosure] Apple ptrace panic PoC - R.I.P str0ke

2009-11-04 Thread Jubei Trippataka
There are people at the end of the computers. Don't ever forget it.

Did you and them get your degree from the same university of trolls?

 I have mistaken nothing for nothing. Fuck you.


Regardless, you should have known he wasn't dead. Your tongue is so far up
his ass didn't you feel he was still at 37c ?

You remind me of: LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE

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ciao

JT
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