[Full-disclosure] Apple ptrace panic PoC - R.I.P str0ke
We are mourning a good friend today. I first begun talking to str0ke when I started publishing exploit codes onto this mailing list, he would always be polite and friendly in his emails. I got to know him over the years and am saddened by his departure, he contributed to the exploit scene and hacking subculture in a huge way. The last time I talked with him I asked him if I could interview him for my blog, he laughed and said he should be interviewing the exploit writers since he didnt do anything. That was str0ke and str0ke did alot, he always fought for the rights of the exploit developers and his website was the bread and butter of many a hackers day. He will sadly be missed by many people, hackers friends. At least now we can post exploits without that damn // milw0rm.com comment being added to the end!!! ;-) I joke, this code is dedicated to you str0ke. R.I.P my friend. http://www.hackerfantastic.com/archive/exploits/prdelka-vs-APPLE-ptracepanic.c ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] Apple ptrace panic PoC - R.I.P str0ke
A very sad news indeed. On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Micheal Turner wh1t3h...@yahoo.co.ukwrote: We are mourning a good friend today. I first begun talking to str0ke when I started publishing exploit codes onto this mailing list, he would always be polite and friendly in his emails. I got to know him over the years and am saddened by his departure, he contributed to the exploit scene and hacking subculture in a huge way. The last time I talked with him I asked him if I could interview him for my blog, he laughed and said he should be interviewing the exploit writers since he didnt do anything. That was str0ke and str0ke did alot, he always fought for the rights of the exploit developers and his website was the bread and butter of many a hackers day. He will sadly be missed by many people, hackers friends. At least now we can post exploits without that damn // milw0rm.com comment being added to the end!!! ;-) I joke, this code is dedicated to you str0ke. R.I.P my friend. http://www.hackerfantastic.com/archive/exploits/prdelka-vs-APPLE-ptracepanic.c ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] Apple ptrace panic PoC - R.I.P str0ke
It seems the whole thing was a Hoax rumor put about by people who I can only describe as pure evil. Glad to know he is fine. --- On Wed, 4/11/09, webDEViL w3bd3...@gmail.com wrote: From: webDEViL w3bd3...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Apple ptrace panic PoC - R.I.P str0ke To: Micheal Turner wh1t3h...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk Date: Wednesday, 4 November, 2009, 1:39 PM A very sad news indeed. On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Micheal Turner wh1t3h...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: We are mourning a good friend today. I first begun talking to str0ke when I started publishing exploit codes onto this mailing list, he would always be polite and friendly in his emails. I got to know him over the years and am saddened by his departure, he contributed to the exploit scene and hacking subculture in a huge way. The last time I talked with him I asked him if I could interview him for my blog, he laughed and said he should be interviewing the exploit writers since he didnt do anything. That was str0ke and str0ke did alot, he always fought for the rights of the exploit developers and his website was the bread and butter of many a hackers day. He will sadly be missed by many people, hackers friends. At least now we can post exploits without that damn // milw0rm.com comment being added to the end!!! ;-) I joke, this code is dedicated to you str0ke. R.I.P my friend. http://www.hackerfantastic.com/archive/exploits/prdelka-vs-APPLE-ptracepanic.c ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] Apple ptrace panic PoC - R.I.P str0ke
http://twitter.com/str0ke It has happened for rgod an now with str0ke.. in both case they are alive, and in both case there are idiots/trolls who claims the opposite.. ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] Apple ptrace panic PoC - R.I.P str0ke
On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Micheal Turner wh1t3h...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: It seems the whole thing was a Hoax rumor put about by people who I can only describe as pure evil. Glad to know he is fine. What's pure evil about exploiting the ease by which one can spread misinformation? If anything, it exposes how willing even a community like this is to believe a single blogpost and spread it around without truly confirming its origins. I was trolled, I have lost. Feel free to admit it yourself instead of calling this prank pure evil. ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] Apple ptrace panic PoC - R.I.P str0ke
Its evil. Making people believe that someone is dead, publicly, and placing obituaries online shows no regard for the thoughts feelings of the person being trolled or the others who may read them. In a community where whispers and hear-say can even get SANS to look for an OpenSSH 0day doing-the-rounds, spreading 'misinformation' about a well-liked individual who worked on a project for the community is unpleasant - making out they are dead is just horrible. There are people at the end of the computers. Don't ever forget it. --- On Wed, 4/11/09, frank^2 fra...@dc949.org wrote: From: frank^2 fra...@dc949.org Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Apple ptrace panic PoC - R.I.P str0ke To: Micheal Turner wh1t3h...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk Date: Wednesday, 4 November, 2009, 11:08 PM On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Micheal Turner wh1t3h...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: It seems the whole thing was a Hoax rumor put about by people who I can only describe as pure evil. Glad to know he is fine. What's pure evil about exploiting the ease by which one can spread misinformation? If anything, it exposes how willing even a community like this is to believe a single blogpost and spread it around without truly confirming its origins. I was trolled, I have lost. Feel free to admit it yourself instead of calling this prank pure evil. ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] Apple ptrace panic PoC - R.I.P str0ke
On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Micheal Turner wh1t3h...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Its evil. Making people believe that someone is dead, publicly, and placing obituaries online shows no regard for the thoughts feelings of the person being trolled or the others who may read them. In a community where whispers and hear-say can even get SANS to look for an OpenSSH 0day doing-the-rounds, spreading 'misinformation' about a well-liked individual who worked on a project for the community is unpleasant - making out they are dead is just horrible. There are people at the end of the computers. Don't ever forget it. This is kind of a silly tangent to be having an argument about on this list, so I'll try to make this my last comment on the matter. It may be a little semantic, but I feel you're confusing wickedness with a lack of empathy. Evil implies that the intent behind the prank was to cause emotional harm. It's certainly detestable that the prank was based in making people assume that str0ke was dead, but I'm doubtful that the purpose of its spread was to cause harm. I hate to be That Guy That Explains The Joke, but I'm pretty sure the purpose was to mock the fact that a) str0ke has been quiet for a long while publicly and b) milw0rm hasn't been updated for a lengthy period of time for yet-to-be explained reasons. (I think v3n0m piped in a while back and said they were taking care of the backlog, but that's about all I remember.) While the line between apathy towards others' emotions and intent to truly cause harm to one's emotions can be blurred, I don't think it's particularly fair to call the perpetrators of this prank evil. Evil is taking joy in the suffering of others. The intent of trolling is to get a specific reaction from a crafted falsehood or comment-- it doesn't necessarily follow that the expected reaction here was emotional harm. So given the circumstances, I feel it's more accurate to say they just simply didn't care. ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] Apple ptrace panic PoC - R.I.P str0ke
Did you and them get your degree from the same university of trolls? I have mistaken nothing for nothing. Fuck you. --- On Thu, 5/11/09, frank^2 fra...@dc949.org wrote: From: frank^2 fra...@dc949.org Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Apple ptrace panic PoC - R.I.P str0ke To: Micheal Turner wh1t3h...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk Date: Thursday, 5 November, 2009, 12:50 AM On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Micheal Turner wh1t3h...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Its evil. Making people believe that someone is dead, publicly, and placing obituaries online shows no regard for the thoughts feelings of the person being trolled or the others who may read them. In a community where whispers and hear-say can even get SANS to look for an OpenSSH 0day doing-the-rounds, spreading 'misinformation' about a well-liked individual who worked on a project for the community is unpleasant - making out they are dead is just horrible. There are people at the end of the computers. Don't ever forget it. This is kind of a silly tangent to be having an argument about on this list, so I'll try to make this my last comment on the matter. It may be a little semantic, but I feel you're confusing wickedness with a lack of empathy. Evil implies that the intent behind the prank was to cause emotional harm. It's certainly detestable that the prank was based in making people assume that str0ke was dead, but I'm doubtful that the purpose of its spread was to cause harm. I hate to be That Guy That Explains The Joke, but I'm pretty sure the purpose was to mock the fact that a) str0ke has been quiet for a long while publicly and b) milw0rm hasn't been updated for a lengthy period of time for yet-to-be explained reasons. (I think v3n0m piped in a while back and said they were taking care of the backlog, but that's about all I remember.) While the line between apathy towards others' emotions and intent to truly cause harm to one's emotions can be blurred, I don't think it's particularly fair to call the perpetrators of this prank evil. Evil is taking joy in the suffering of others. The intent of trolling is to get a specific reaction from a crafted falsehood or comment-- it doesn't necessarily follow that the expected reaction here was emotional harm. So given the circumstances, I feel it's more accurate to say they just simply didn't care. ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] Apple ptrace panic PoC - R.I.P str0ke
There are people at the end of the computers. Don't ever forget it. Did you and them get your degree from the same university of trolls? I have mistaken nothing for nothing. Fuck you. Regardless, you should have known he wasn't dead. Your tongue is so far up his ass didn't you feel he was still at 37c ? You remind me of: LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE -- ciao JT ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
