[Full-disclosure] Defense in depth -- the Microsoft way (part 13): surprising and inconsistent behaviour, sloppy coding, sloppy QA, sloppy documentation
Hi @ll, the Win32 API is full of idiosyncrasies resp. surprising and inconsistent, poorly tested and documented behaviour. Just to pick one: NULL pointer as string argument. 0. lstrlen(NULL) lstrcat(NULL, ...) and lstrcat(..., NULL) lstrcmp(NULL, ...) and lstrcmp(..., NULL) lstrcmpi(NULL, ...) and lstrcmpi(..., NULL) lstrcpy(NULL, ...) and lstrcpy(..., NULL) lstrcpyn(NULL, ..., 0) and lstrcpy(..., NULL, ...) do not yield an exception, but treat their NULL arguments like an empty string (when used as source), resp. return NULL (when used as destination). 1. wsprintf(NULL, ...) and wvsprintf(NULL, ...) wsprintf(..., NULL, ...) and wvsprintf(..., NULL, ...) yield an access violation in USER32.DLL. 2. CommandLineToArgvW(NULL, ...) yields an access violation in SHELL32.DLL. 3. CreateProcess(NULL, NULL, ...) CreateProcessAsUser(..., NULL, NULL, ...) CreateProcessWithLogonW(..., ..., ..., ..., NULL, NULL, ...) CreateProcessWithTokenW(..., ..., NULL, NULL, ...) yield an access violation in KERNEL32.DLL. 4. GetFileAttributes(NULL) does not yield an exception, but treats the NULL argument like an empty string. 5. GetBinaryType(NULL, ...) does not yield an exception, but treats the NULL argument like an empty string. 6. MessageBox(..., NULL, ...) and MessageBox(..., ..., NULL, ...) do not yield an exception, but treat the NULL argument like an empty string. 7. FatalAppExit(0, NULL) does not yield an exception, but treats the NULL argument like an empty string. 8. GetCurrentDirectory(..., NULL) returns an error if the buffer size (the argument shown as ... here) is sufficient to hold the result, else the required buffer size. GetTempPath(..., NULL) GetSystemDirectory(NULL, ...) GetSystemWindowsDirectory(NULL, ...) GetSystemWow64Directory(NULL, ...) GetWindowsDirectory(NULL, ...) GetComputerName(NULL, ...) yield an access violation in NTDLL.DLL resp. KERNEL32.DLL if the buffer size is sufficient to hold the result, else the required buffer size. GetUserName(NULL, ...) GetComputerObjectName(..., NULL, ...) do not yield an access violation, but return an error with GetLastError() == ERROR_INSUFFICIENT_BUFFER. 9. GetUserName(NULL, NULL) GetComputerName(NULL, NULL) yield an access violation in KERNEL32.DLL. GetComputerNameEx(..., NULL, NULL) GetComputerObjectName(..., NULL, NULL) do not yield an access violation, but return an error with GetLastError() == ERROR_INVALID_PARAMETER. JFTR: only the documentation of the last function (see http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms724301.aspx) explicitly says about the value of the third argument If lpBuffer is NULL, this parameter must be zero. and checks this contraint properly. The expected behavior in all cases is but to return an error with GetLastError() == ERROR_INVALID_PARAMETER or similar. FIX: ALL interfaces of the Win32 API should^WMUST verify (ALL) their arguments properly before using them and return an appropriate, documented error code. stay tuned Stefan Kanthak ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] Defense in depth -- the Microsoft way (part 13): surprising and inconsistent behaviour, sloppy coding, sloppy QA, sloppy documentation
This may be a silly question, so I apologize in advance, but that would exactly be the advantage here? Using a NULL pointer is in most (if not all) those cases undocumented behavior to begin with. Unless I'm missing something, the problem is not so much with Win32 as it is with the C language in general... On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Stefan Kanthak stefan.kant...@nexgo.dewrote: Hi @ll, the Win32 API is full of idiosyncrasies resp. surprising and inconsistent, poorly tested and documented behaviour. Just to pick one: NULL pointer as string argument. 0. lstrlen(NULL) lstrcat(NULL, ...) and lstrcat(..., NULL) lstrcmp(NULL, ...) and lstrcmp(..., NULL) lstrcmpi(NULL, ...) and lstrcmpi(..., NULL) lstrcpy(NULL, ...) and lstrcpy(..., NULL) lstrcpyn(NULL, ..., 0) and lstrcpy(..., NULL, ...) do not yield an exception, but treat their NULL arguments like an empty string (when used as source), resp. return NULL (when used as destination). 1. wsprintf(NULL, ...) and wvsprintf(NULL, ...) wsprintf(..., NULL, ...) and wvsprintf(..., NULL, ...) yield an access violation in USER32.DLL. 2. CommandLineToArgvW(NULL, ...) yields an access violation in SHELL32.DLL. 3. CreateProcess(NULL, NULL, ...) CreateProcessAsUser(..., NULL, NULL, ...) CreateProcessWithLogonW(..., ..., ..., ..., NULL, NULL, ...) CreateProcessWithTokenW(..., ..., NULL, NULL, ...) yield an access violation in KERNEL32.DLL. 4. GetFileAttributes(NULL) does not yield an exception, but treats the NULL argument like an empty string. 5. GetBinaryType(NULL, ...) does not yield an exception, but treats the NULL argument like an empty string. 6. MessageBox(..., NULL, ...) and MessageBox(..., ..., NULL, ...) do not yield an exception, but treat the NULL argument like an empty string. 7. FatalAppExit(0, NULL) does not yield an exception, but treats the NULL argument like an empty string. 8. GetCurrentDirectory(..., NULL) returns an error if the buffer size (the argument shown as ... here) is sufficient to hold the result, else the required buffer size. GetTempPath(..., NULL) GetSystemDirectory(NULL, ...) GetSystemWindowsDirectory(NULL, ...) GetSystemWow64Directory(NULL, ...) GetWindowsDirectory(NULL, ...) GetComputerName(NULL, ...) yield an access violation in NTDLL.DLL resp. KERNEL32.DLL if the buffer size is sufficient to hold the result, else the required buffer size. GetUserName(NULL, ...) GetComputerObjectName(..., NULL, ...) do not yield an access violation, but return an error with GetLastError() == ERROR_INSUFFICIENT_BUFFER. 9. GetUserName(NULL, NULL) GetComputerName(NULL, NULL) yield an access violation in KERNEL32.DLL. GetComputerNameEx(..., NULL, NULL) GetComputerObjectName(..., NULL, NULL) do not yield an access violation, but return an error with GetLastError() == ERROR_INVALID_PARAMETER. JFTR: only the documentation of the last function (see http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms724301.aspx) explicitly says about the value of the third argument If lpBuffer is NULL, this parameter must be zero. and checks this contraint properly. The expected behavior in all cases is but to return an error with GetLastError() == ERROR_INVALID_PARAMETER or similar. FIX: ALL interfaces of the Win32 API should^WMUST verify (ALL) their arguments properly before using them and return an appropriate, documented error code. stay tuned Stefan Kanthak ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ -- “There's a reason we separate military and the police: one fights the enemy of the state, the other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people.” ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] Defense in depth -- the Microsoft way (part 13): surprising and inconsistent behaviour, sloppy coding, sloppy QA, sloppy documentation
Mario Vilas mvi...@gmail.com wrote: This may be a silly question, so I apologize in advance, but that would exactly be the advantage here? Using a NULL pointer is in most (if not all) those cases undocumented behavior to begin with. Unless I'm missing something, the problem is not so much with Win32 as it is with the C language in general... For many of the Win32 functions I referenced here the behaviour of a NULL pointer is but documented: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms647492.aspx | If lpString is NULL, the function returns 0. JFTR: I suspect that this is the reason why most of the other functions treat a NULL pointer as an empty string. http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms647487.aspx http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms647490.aspx http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms647491.aspx | When this function catches SEH errors, it returns NULL without null- | terminating the string and without notifying the caller of the error. http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms682425.aspx | BOOL WINAPI CreateProcess( | _In_opt_ LPCTSTR lpApplicationName, | _Inout_opt_ LPTSTR lpCommandLine, BOTH string arguments may be NULL! Idem for the other CreateProcess*() functions. http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms645505.aspx | The dialog box title. If this parameter is NULL, the default title is Error. http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa364934.aspx | To determine the required buffer size, set this parameter to NULL and the | nBufferLength parameter to 0. Most of the Get*() functions return the required buffer size when the size argument is 0 (or to small), but only http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms724301.aspx explicitly says: | If lpBuffer is NULL, this parameter must be zero. and checks this contraint properly. The problem is not the C language! The problem is the inconsistent (and sloppy) implemenation of similar functions of the Win32 API and their inconsistent and sloppy documentation. regards Stefan Kanthak On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Stefan Kanthak stefan.kant...@nexgo.dewrote: Hi @ll, the Win32 API is full of idiosyncrasies resp. surprising and inconsistent, poorly tested and documented behaviour. Just to pick one: NULL pointer as string argument. 0. lstrlen(NULL) lstrcat(NULL, ...) and lstrcat(..., NULL) lstrcmp(NULL, ...) and lstrcmp(..., NULL) lstrcmpi(NULL, ...) and lstrcmpi(..., NULL) lstrcpy(NULL, ...) and lstrcpy(..., NULL) lstrcpyn(NULL, ..., 0) and lstrcpy(..., NULL, ...) do not yield an exception, but treat their NULL arguments like an empty string (when used as source), resp. return NULL (when used as destination). 1. wsprintf(NULL, ...) and wvsprintf(NULL, ...) wsprintf(..., NULL, ...) and wvsprintf(..., NULL, ...) yield an access violation in USER32.DLL. 2. CommandLineToArgvW(NULL, ...) yields an access violation in SHELL32.DLL. 3. CreateProcess(NULL, NULL, ...) CreateProcessAsUser(..., NULL, NULL, ...) CreateProcessWithLogonW(..., ..., ..., ..., NULL, NULL, ...) CreateProcessWithTokenW(..., ..., NULL, NULL, ...) yield an access violation in KERNEL32.DLL. 4. GetFileAttributes(NULL) does not yield an exception, but treats the NULL argument like an empty string. 5. GetBinaryType(NULL, ...) does not yield an exception, but treats the NULL argument like an empty string. 6. MessageBox(..., NULL, ...) and MessageBox(..., ..., NULL, ...) do not yield an exception, but treat the NULL argument like an empty string. 7. FatalAppExit(0, NULL) does not yield an exception, but treats the NULL argument like an empty string. 8. GetCurrentDirectory(..., NULL) returns an error if the buffer size (the argument shown as ... here) is sufficient to hold the result, else the required buffer size. GetTempPath(..., NULL) GetSystemDirectory(NULL, ...) GetSystemWindowsDirectory(NULL, ...) GetSystemWow64Directory(NULL, ...) GetWindowsDirectory(NULL, ...) GetComputerName(NULL, ...) yield an access violation in NTDLL.DLL resp. KERNEL32.DLL if the buffer size is sufficient to hold the result, else the required buffer size. GetUserName(NULL, ...) GetComputerObjectName(..., NULL, ...) do not yield an access violation, but return an error with GetLastError() == ERROR_INSUFFICIENT_BUFFER. 9. GetUserName(NULL, NULL) GetComputerName(NULL, NULL) yield an access violation in KERNEL32.DLL. GetComputerNameEx(..., NULL, NULL) GetComputerObjectName(..., NULL, NULL) do not yield an access violation, but return an error with GetLastError() == ERROR_INVALID_PARAMETER. JFTR: only the documentation of the last function (see http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms724301.aspx) explicitly says about the value of the third argument If lpBuffer is NULL, this parameter