Re: [Full-disclosure] Did n3td3v infulence Google Security Team
I also agree Thanks for saying what many others think Have a nice day everyone Maxime Ducharme -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de magickal1 Envoyé : 30 avril 2008 20:34 À : full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk Objet : [Full-disclosure] Did n3td3v infulence Google Security Team I don't often write to the list nor contribute much at all at this point mostly due to work commitments but I felt a need to this time. Why on earth was this posted to the list? it provided no usefull information. It had nothing to do with full disclosure of anything. all it did was waste my time and others. At this point the author of the post has made it to the filter to hit the trash bin straight off marked as read. Do us all a favor...stop posting this crap. Its pointless, provides no information and can be used for nothing. In a word this post ranked no higher than SPAM! My 2cents worth. Flame away chances are I'm not going to respond anyway. if [ !=n3td3v ] then; mv $post spam fi On Tuesday 29 April 2008 20:50:18 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did n3td3v infulence Google Security Team ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] Did n3td3v infulence Google Security Team?
I think they should have called it how to avoid getting cyber rolled though. I've asked you this one before because I'm just not getting it. What's the difference between cyber rolling and phishing? If there's no difference, is there any need for another name for it? ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] Did n3td3v infulence Google Security Team?
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 09:55:33AM +0100, mcwidget wrote: I've asked you this one before because I'm just not getting it. What's the difference between cyber rolling and phishing? If there's no difference, is there any need for another name for it? Cyber rolling is when you visit a phishing site which plays Never Gonna Give You Up in the background. This is *much* worse than normal phishing, as it can permamently damage your ears as well as stealing your credentials. ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] Did n3td3v infulence Google Security Team?
good. you proved you know how to im with others. lets see, you have email, copy and paste, ranting, im and webpage creation through templates down. what else can you do? On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 11:04 PM, n3td3v [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 3:53 AM, Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not dissing you, but just wanting to thank you for the laugh: snip /and I have a news group of 4308+ who do take me seriously.snip / Why be random when you can be exact huh? Seriously, the 63213249876837+ atoms that make up my being as a whole, thank you. me: i responded to valdis big time securinate: thought you said you wouldn't. securinate's new status message - here 3:14 AM me: he needed to be told http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/2008-April/061903.html securinate: i'm reading it in my gmail me: i assumed you didnt read FD like you told me securinate: I searched for the thread good response me: he will do what most arseholes do, and pick out the weakest sentence and pretend the rest never happened securinate: yep Sent at 3:16 AM on Wednesday ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] Did n3td3v infulence Google Security Team?
On 4/30/08, John Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 09:55:33AM +0100, mcwidget wrote: I've asked you this one before because I'm just not getting it. What's the difference between cyber rolling and phishing? If there's no difference, is there any need for another name for it? Cyber rolling is when you visit a phishing site which plays Never Gonna Give You Up in the background. This is *much* worse than normal phishing, as it can permamently damage your ears as well as stealing your credentials. ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ I have never posted on FD, but your post has seriously forced my hand. You have single handedly made my day. Thanks! -- -John ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] Did n3td3v infulence Google Security Team?
Cyber rolling is when you visit a phishing site which plays Never Gonna Give You Up in the background. This is *much* worse than normal phishing, as it can permamently damage your ears as well as stealing your credentials. Hopefully this trend will buck before it progresses to Together Forever. Nonetheless, I stand corrected, this crime probably does deserve it's own name. This could be a effective scam though. The victim could miss the obligatory bank unusual credit card activity warning call due to damaged hearing. ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
[Full-disclosure] Did n3td3v infulence Google Security Team
I don't often write to the list nor contribute much at all at this point mostly due to work commitments but I felt a need to this time. Why on earth was this posted to the list? it provided no usefull information. It had nothing to do with full disclosure of anything. all it did was waste my time and others. At this point the author of the post has made it to the filter to hit the trash bin straight off marked as read. Do us all a favor...stop posting this crap. Its pointless, provides no information and can be used for nothing. In a word this post ranked no higher than SPAM! My 2cents worth. Flame away chances are I'm not going to respond anyway. if [ !=n3td3v ] then; mv $post spam fi On Tuesday 29 April 2008 20:50:18 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did n3td3v infulence Google Security Team ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] Did n3td3v infulence Google Security Team
I concur :-) 2008/5/1 magickal1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I don't often write to the list nor contribute much at all at this point mostly due to work commitments but I felt a need to this time. Why on earth was this posted to the list? it provided no usefull information. It had nothing to do with full disclosure of anything. all it did was waste my time and others. At this point the author of the post has made it to the filter to hit the trash bin straight off marked as read. Do us all a favor...stop posting this crap. Its pointless, provides no information and can be used for nothing. In a word this post ranked no higher than SPAM! My 2cents worth. Flame away chances are I'm not going to respond anyway. if [ !=n3td3v ] then; mv $post spam fi On Tuesday 29 April 2008 20:50:18 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did n3td3v infulence Google Security Team ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
[Full-disclosure] Did n3td3v infulence Google Security Team?
Google issues warning about phishing e-mails http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9931539-7.html How to avoid getting hooked http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008/04/how-to-avoid-getting-hooked.html Its time to take rick rolling seriously http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/2008-April/061832.html I think they should have called it how to avoid getting cyber rolled though. All the best, n3td3v ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] Did n3td3v infulence Google Security Team?
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 22:08:31 BST, n3td3v said: Google issues warning about phishing e-mails http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9931539-7.html And the top comment as I write this is: http://www.news.com/5208-10784_3-0.html?forumID=1threadID=37227messageID=402998start=-1 'Phishing' is over 3 years old. Why bother with this post now, in 2008? And I have to agree here - if Google finally got on board after all this time, which is more likely: 1) That somebody high up from the FBI or DHS or other TLA leaned on them to get with the program already... or 2) That they got (or were about to get) a whole pile of bad press in ComputerWorld or InformationWeek or Bruce Schneier's blog or other information source often read by other movers-and-shakers... or 3) That they listened to some unemployed blogger with no public record of being taken seriously from the other side of the big puddle. pgpDtkQgaQ06Z.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] Did n3td3v infulence Google Security Team?
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 1:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 22:08:31 BST, n3td3v said: Google issues warning about phishing e-mails http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9931539-7.html And the top comment as I write this is: http://www.news.com/5208-10784_3-0.html?forumID=1threadID=37227messageID=402998start=-1 'Phishing' is over 3 years old. Why bother with this post now, in 2008? And I have to agree here - if Google finally got on board after all this time, which is more likely: 1) That somebody high up from the FBI or DHS or other TLA leaned on them to get with the program already... or 2) That they got (or were about to get) a whole pile of bad press in ComputerWorld or InformationWeek or Bruce Schneier's blog or other information source often read by other movers-and-shakers... or 3) That they listened to some unemployed blogger with no public record of being taken seriously from the other side of the big puddle. Never taken seriously by outspoken arse holes on FD isn't the same as being taken seriously by people who matter. Outspoken arse holes on FD aren't the spokes people for the entire list, they don't decide what everyones opinion is of everything and everyone. Disrespecting me all the time when i'm trying hard to make a difference isn't giving any positive vibes off of you, just a lot of negitive grudge vibes that the folks who matter, the ones who aren't outspoken and rude on FD don't respect from you. Valdis, its about time you gave up the grudge fight, and gave into the fact n3td3v is big and influential in the security community, I talk to a lot of important people you've never seen or heard of, and I have a news group of 4308+ who do take me seriously. Its only *you* who is trying to make it look as if i'm not taken seriously by anyone, its you who is trying to say my news group is lame, and its you who said Web Application Security Awareness Day is lame. Give up the grudge match Valdis, the people who matter don't care about your pissing contest you've been having with me on FD, who only fake handles and nobody aliases have backed you up. You're trying to get everyone to have a negitive view of me, but the folks who matter, which isn't you, do listen to me and take me seriously. They see through what you're trying to do Valdis, you're the only one with no serious infulence. I have a bigger standing in the security community than you Valdis, and quite frankly it makes you jealous, and the people who matter you've never seen or heard of before who I have spoke to about you, they think the same thing that its Jealousy that drives the people who troll my every post, and you know if you keep responding to me negitively then i'm finally going to lose my temper and prove your opinion about me. Accept Valdis, the people who matter see through you and the other random alias people on FD, who you've decided to join up with in dissing me none stop, and know that its because I do have a big impact and infulence that it drives you nuts, because you want so much to have the same standing in the security community as I have built up. And the important people who matter who take me seriously told me to say this to you. All the best, n3td3v ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] Did n3td3v infulence Google Security Team?
Not dissing you, but just wanting to thank you for the laugh: snip /*and I have a news group of 4308+ who do take me seriously.*snip / Why be random when you can be exact huh? Seriously, the 63213249876837+ atoms that make up my being as a whole, thank you. 2008/4/30 n3td3v [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 1:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 22:08:31 BST, n3td3v said: Google issues warning about phishing e-mails http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9931539-7.html And the top comment as I write this is: http://www.news.com/5208-10784_3-0.html?forumID=1threadID=37227messageID=402998start=-1 'Phishing' is over 3 years old. Why bother with this post now, in 2008? And I have to agree here - if Google finally got on board after all this time, which is more likely: 1) That somebody high up from the FBI or DHS or other TLA leaned on them to get with the program already... or 2) That they got (or were about to get) a whole pile of bad press in ComputerWorld or InformationWeek or Bruce Schneier's blog or other information source often read by other movers-and-shakers... or 3) That they listened to some unemployed blogger with no public record of being taken seriously from the other side of the big puddle. Never taken seriously by outspoken arse holes on FD isn't the same as being taken seriously by people who matter. Outspoken arse holes on FD aren't the spokes people for the entire list, they don't decide what everyones opinion is of everything and everyone. Disrespecting me all the time when i'm trying hard to make a difference isn't giving any positive vibes off of you, just a lot of negitive grudge vibes that the folks who matter, the ones who aren't outspoken and rude on FD don't respect from you. Valdis, its about time you gave up the grudge fight, and gave into the fact n3td3v is big and influential in the security community, I talk to a lot of important people you've never seen or heard of, and I have a news group of 4308+ who do take me seriously. Its only *you* who is trying to make it look as if i'm not taken seriously by anyone, its you who is trying to say my news group is lame, and its you who said Web Application Security Awareness Day is lame. Give up the grudge match Valdis, the people who matter don't care about your pissing contest you've been having with me on FD, who only fake handles and nobody aliases have backed you up. You're trying to get everyone to have a negitive view of me, but the folks who matter, which isn't you, do listen to me and take me seriously. They see through what you're trying to do Valdis, you're the only one with no serious infulence. I have a bigger standing in the security community than you Valdis, and quite frankly it makes you jealous, and the people who matter you've never seen or heard of before who I have spoke to about you, they think the same thing that its Jealousy that drives the people who troll my every post, and you know if you keep responding to me negitively then i'm finally going to lose my temper and prove your opinion about me. Accept Valdis, the people who matter see through you and the other random alias people on FD, who you've decided to join up with in dissing me none stop, and know that its because I do have a big impact and infulence that it drives you nuts, because you want so much to have the same standing in the security community as I have built up. And the important people who matter who take me seriously told me to say this to you. All the best, n3td3v ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] Did n3td3v infulence Google Security Team?
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 3:53 AM, Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not dissing you, but just wanting to thank you for the laugh: snip /and I have a news group of 4308+ who do take me seriously.snip / Why be random when you can be exact huh? Seriously, the 63213249876837+ atoms that make up my being as a whole, thank you. me: i responded to valdis big time securinate: thought you said you wouldn't. securinate's new status message - here 3:14 AM me: he needed to be told http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/2008-April/061903.html securinate: i'm reading it in my gmail me: i assumed you didnt read FD like you told me securinate: I searched for the thread good response me: he will do what most arseholes do, and pick out the weakest sentence and pretend the rest never happened securinate: yep Sent at 3:16 AM on Wednesday ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
