Re: [Full-disclosure] Financial firms warned of Qaeda cyber attack
TheGesus wrote: I was only quoting (with a little creative editing) the late(?), great(?) Paul Milne of Y2K disaster fame. Fair enough, in that case, Paul Milne is MAKING IT HAPPEN! You're kinda-helping by propagating his sewage without a proper health warning though; your argument is a bit like the line of thinking that says I know that all those email virus warnings are always hoaxes, but I'll send this one on to all my friends just in case this is the one time that it isn't There's a goldmine in there... Wow, a whole new world of net.kookery that I've never explored... thanks for the amusing reading material. http://groups.google.com/groups/search?lr=safe=offnum=10q=bank+panic+author%3Apaul+milnesafe=offqt_s=Search If you live within 5 miles of a 7-11, you're toast Heh, I couldn't resist sorting by date... seems the last time he ever poasted to usenut was 5th december 2000 only took him 12 months to get how wrong he was but he did at least disappear in shame! cheers, DaveK -- Can't think of a witty .sigline today ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] Financial firms warned of Qaeda cyber attack
On 12/3/06, Dave No, not that one Korn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TheGesus wrote: More and more people are hearing the recommendation to withdraw a little extra cash out of the banks to prepare for cyber attacks. If as many as 1.32% of bank depositors take their advice and withdraw all their money, the banks will close their doors. Al Qaeda threatens to disrupt the electronic bank payments system. And YOU'RE MAKING IT HAPPEN! DUH! This system contributes about 90% of the US money supply. Without it, 10% of the money supply (the cash coin) must take over the work of the other 90%. Conclusion: Withdraw and stockpile some cash now. Shoot for at least three months' cash requirements. Don't wait. Start now. AQ don't intend to attack the banking system. They plan to get paranoids, suckers, and conspiracy-theorists like you to do their dirty work for them. They just need to spread a rumour and then sit back and watch as all you loyal patriots trash your own country out of fear and cowardice. ObTopic: Sounds like a social engineering attack to me; attempting to manipulate the users of a service into acting as an implicit ddos against it. cheers, DaveK -- Can't think of a witty .sigline today ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ I was only quoting (with a little creative editing) the late(?), great(?) Paul Milne of Y2K disaster fame. There's a goldmine in there... http://groups.google.com/groups/search?lr=safe=offnum=10q=bank+panic+author%3Apaul+milnesafe=offqt_s=Search If you live within 5 miles of a 7-11, you're toast ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] Financial firms warned of Qaeda cyber attack
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bah!! Al-Qaeda this, Al-Qaeda that, links to Al-Qaeda - pfft! Seems that Al-Qaeda is as much under everybody's bed as Joseph McCarthy's communists once were. Whenever anything remotely whiffy happens, Al-Qaeda is behind it. If your peanuts are all eaten or your beer is flat, it's the devious work of shadowy Al-Qaeda. The odd thing is that most everybody knows it for what it is. Except of course for poor 'ole George W. Bush and his blind followers - living in complete denial of reality. So, when the *real* wolf happens along - who will be listening? Nobody! Speaking of the wolf - I wouldn't want to be holding too many US dollars anyway - seems the arse is going to fall out of it - we just don't know when. Buy Gold!! Later... Love, Ninja. All flames automatically redirected to the bit-bucket. On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 00:26:21 +1100 TheGesus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/3/06, Dave No, not that one Korn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TheGesus wrote: More and more people are hearing the recommendation to withdraw a little extra cash out of the banks to prepare for cyber attacks. If as many as 1.32% of bank depositors take their advice and withdraw all their money, the banks will close their doors. Al Qaeda threatens to disrupt the electronic bank payments system. And YOU'RE MAKING IT HAPPEN! DUH! This system contributes about 90% of the US money supply. Without it, 10% of the money supply (the cash coin) must take over the work of the other 90%. Conclusion: Withdraw and stockpile some cash now. Shoot for at least three months' cash requirements. Don't wait. Start now. AQ don't intend to attack the banking system. They plan to get paranoids, suckers, and conspiracy-theorists like you to do their dirty work for them. They just need to spread a rumour and then sit back and watch as all you loyal patriots trash your own country out of fear and cowardice. ObTopic: Sounds like a social engineering attack to me; attempting to manipulate the users of a service into acting as an implicit ddos against it. cheers, DaveK -- Can't think of a witty .sigline today ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ I was only quoting (with a little creative editing) the late(?), great(?) Paul Milne of Y2K disaster fame. There's a goldmine in there... http://groups.google.com/groups/search?lr=safe=offnum=10q=bank+p anic+author%3Apaul+milnesafe=offqt_s=Search If you live within 5 miles of a 7-11, you're toast ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Note: This signature can be verified at https://www.hushtools.com/verify Version: Hush 2.5 wkYEARECAAYFAkV019UACgkQtM6vtsm2y1ux2QCfep9hzHtzQ4nxTcw2Dj6v0hhQ6KkA nAwJyPlpm7lRaY8RlGJsW8TJgDVR =sMcz -END PGP SIGNATURE- Concerned about your privacy? Instantly send FREE secure email, no account required http://www.hushmail.com/send?l=480 Get the best prices on SSL certificates from Hushmail https://www.hushssl.com?l=485 ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] Financial firms warned of Qaeda cyber attack
I lost money. On 12/3/06, Matthew Flaschen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or, realize that no one lost money in 9/11, even those who had banks in the World Trade Center. Why? Every bank has multiple redundant backups, including offsite storage. Matthew Flaschen TheGesus wrote: Conclusion: Withdraw and stockpile some cash now. Shoot for at least three months' cash requirements. Don't wait. Start now. == ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] Financial firms warned of Qaeda cyber attack
On 12/3/06, Dude VanWinkle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/3/06, Matthew Flaschen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or, realize that no one lost money in 9/11, even those who had banks in the World Trade Center. Why? Every bank has multiple redundant backups, including offsite storage. hey, you are from gatech...you should know not to use absolutes like no one lost money in 9/11, especially on a mailing list with: ferg, brian, drsolly, JP, the Randall's, Grandpa, etc, etc; that is run by Gadi! I think your thinking of another list, we're on fd now ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] Financial firms warned of Qaeda cyber attack
TheGesus wrote: More and more people are hearing the recommendation to withdraw a little extra cash out of the banks to prepare for cyber attacks. If as many as 1.32% of bank depositors take their advice and withdraw all their money, the banks will close their doors. Al Qaeda threatens to disrupt the electronic bank payments system. And YOU'RE MAKING IT HAPPEN! DUH! This system contributes about 90% of the US money supply. Without it, 10% of the money supply (the cash coin) must take over the work of the other 90%. Conclusion: Withdraw and stockpile some cash now. Shoot for at least three months' cash requirements. Don't wait. Start now. AQ don't intend to attack the banking system. They plan to get paranoids, suckers, and conspiracy-theorists like you to do their dirty work for them. They just need to spread a rumour and then sit back and watch as all you loyal patriots trash your own country out of fear and cowardice. ObTopic: Sounds like a social engineering attack to me; attempting to manipulate the users of a service into acting as an implicit ddos against it. cheers, DaveK -- Can't think of a witty .sigline today ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
[Full-disclosure] Financial firms warned of Qaeda cyber attack
From the Reuters article: WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. government warned American private financial services on Thursday of an al Qaeda call for a cyber attack against online stock trading and banking Web sites beginning on Friday, a source said. Reportedly DHS confirmed an alert had been distributed but said there was no reason to believe the threat was credible. More at http://today.reuters.com/News/newsArticle.aspx?type=internetNewsstoryID=2006-12-01T061519Z_01_WBT006236_RTRUKOC_0_US-SECURITY-USA-QAEDA.xmlWTmodLoc=InternetNewsHome_C1_%5bFeed%5d-8 SANS Internet Storm Center (ISC) has issued the following Diary entries, several references included: From ISC director Marcus H. Sachs: http://isc.sans.org/diary.php?storyid=1900 and US DHS banking alert entry released earlier by Johannes Ullrich: http://isc.sans.org/diary.php?storyid=1899 - Juha-Matti ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] Financial firms warned of Qaeda cyber attack
From the Reuters article: WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. government warned American private financial services on Thursday of an al Qaeda call for a cyber attack against online stock trading and banking Web sites beginning on Friday, a source said. Makes me remind US Bombs' The World song ;) Julio Cesar Fort Recife, PE, Brazil www.rfdslabs.com.br - computers, sex, human mind, music and more. ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] Financial firms warned of Qaeda cyber attack
Reportedly DHS confirmed an alert had been distributed but said there was no reason to believe the threat was credible. and since when is DHS credible itself? and why to people scatter every time their terrorism mood ring changes color? I guess they don't realize that servers overheat when wrapped with plastic and duct tape. ~Mike. ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] Financial firms warned of Qaeda cyber attack
I beg to differ Mike, they are trying to play the same lame ass game that the (Bush) Oil industry, trying to raise interest rates because Osama Bin Laden is going to hack everyones account. Not so smart, I guess I better withdraw all my money American and buy Euros to be safe? On Friday, December 01, 2006 9:04 AM, Michael Holstein wrote: Reportedly DHS confirmed an alert had been distributed but said there was no reason to believe the threat was credible. Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 10:04:39 -0500 From: Michael Holstein To: Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Financial firms warned of Qaeda cyber attack and since when is DHS credible itself? and why to people scatter every time their terrorism mood ring changes color? I guess they don't realize that servers overheat when wrapped with plastic and duct tape. ~Mike. ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ Great Spirits Have Always Encountered Violent Opposition From Mediocre Minds - Einstein Cuanta estupidez en tan poco cerebro! ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] Financial firms warned of Qaeda cyber attack
Teehee, yeah.. and they are gunna use pen-guns like in james bond, expose iraqs WMDs, an tople in entire western world to... since when do caves even have connections? On Fri, Dec 01, 2006 at 04:34:06PM +0200, Juha-Matti Laurio wrote: From the Reuters article: WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. government warned American private financial services on Thursday of an al Qaeda call for a cyber attack against online stock trading and banking Web sites beginning on Friday, a source said. Reportedly DHS confirmed an alert had been distributed but said there was no reason to believe the threat was credible. More at http://today.reuters.com/News/newsArticle.aspx?type=internetNewsstoryID=2006-12-01T061519Z_01_WBT006236_RTRUKOC_0_US-SECURITY-USA-QAEDA.xmlWTmodLoc=InternetNewsHome_C1_%5bFeed%5d-8 SANS Internet Storm Center (ISC) has issued the following Diary entries, several references included: From ISC director Marcus H. Sachs: http://isc.sans.org/diary.php?storyid=1900 and US DHS banking alert entry released earlier by Johannes Ullrich: http://isc.sans.org/diary.php?storyid=1899 - Juha-Matti ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ -- ___ |hello, my name is | | .__ .___ .___| | | |__ __| _/__| _/___ | |_/ ___\| | \_/ __ \ / __ |/ __ |/ __ \_ __ \| |\ \___| Y \ ___// /_/ / /_/ \ ___/| | \/| | \___ ___| /\___ \ |\___ __| | |\/ \/ \/ \/\/\/| |http://chedder.hacked.in | |___| You don't exist. Go away ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] Financial firms warned of Qaeda cyber attack
On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 11:37:43 -0300, Julio Cesar Fort said: From the Reuters article: WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. government warned American private financial services on Thursday of an al Qaeda call for a cyber attack against online stock trading and banking Web sites beginning on Friday, a source said. We're lucky that al Qaeda didn't call for a bioterrorism attack, like flesh-eating bacteria in the entire US supply of Hanes jockey shorts. ;) pgps9iBPtv5vx.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] Financial firms warned of Qaeda cyber attack
HOLY SHIT!!! What if they are responsible for japanese gameshows!? On Fri, Dec 01, 2006 at 04:33:56PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Valdis, or worse a Japanese game show I think? http://www.glumbert.com/media/tonguetwister.html -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ -- ___ |hello, my name is | | .__ .___ .___| | | |__ __| _/__| _/___ | |_/ ___\| | \_/ __ \ / __ |/ __ |/ __ \_ __ \| |\ \___| Y \ ___// /_/ / /_/ \ ___/| | \/| | \___ ___| /\___ \ |\___ __| | |\/ \/ \/ \/\/\/| |http://chedder.hacked.in | |___| You don't exist. Go away ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] Financial firms warned of Qaeda cyber attack
On 12/1/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I beg to differ Mike, they are trying to play the same lame ass game that the (Bush) Oil industry, trying to raise interest rates because Osama Bin Laden is going to hack everyones account. Not so smart, I guess I better withdraw all my money American and buy Euros to be safe? On Friday, December 01, 2006 9:04 AM, Michael Holstein wrote: Reportedly DHS confirmed an alert had been distributed but said there was no reason to believe the threat was credible. Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 10:04:39 -0500 From: Michael Holstein To: Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Financial firms warned of Qaeda cyber attack and since when is DHS credible itself? and why to people scatter every time their terrorism mood ring changes color? I guess they don't realize that servers overheat when wrapped with plastic and duct tape. ~Mike. ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ Great Spirits Have Always Encountered Violent Opposition From Mediocre Minds - Einstein Cuanta estupidez en tan poco cerebro! ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ If you ever plan to get money out of the bank, you better do it now, while the getting is good. In a bank run, the federal government (guardian angel and loyal slave of the banks) would most certainly declare a moratorium on withdrawals. More and more people are hearing the recommendation to withdraw a little extra cash out of the banks to prepare for cyber attacks. If as many as 1.32% of bank depositors take their advice and withdraw all their money, the banks will close their doors. Al Qaeda threatens to disrupt the electronic bank payments system. This system contributes about 90% of the US money supply. Without it, 10% of the money supply (the cash coin) must take over the work of the other 90%. Conclusion: Withdraw and stockpile some cash now. Shoot for at least three months' cash requirements. Don't wait. Start now. == -- Paul Milne If you live within five miles of a 7-11, you're toast. (thanks, Paul, wherever you are!) ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
