Re: [Full-disclosure] Fwd: Three London hospitals have been forced to shut down their entire computer systems for at least 24 hours after being hit by a virus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear Juha-Matti Blogger, Can you produce any verifiable cryptographic hashes to support your statement? - -al On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 01:04:11 -0500 Juha-Matti Laurio juha- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a quick note to the list that I am not a subscriber of that n3td3v mailing list mentioned and I have no need to use ideas from that list. Additionally, I don't even know where the n3td3v mailing list archive exists. Juha-Matti n3td3v [EMAIL PROTECTED] kirjoitti: don't argue with the heavily involved cut-n-paste people! they are far better than the non-involved cut-n-paste people at cutting and pasting. even though the same news that is on funsec is on n3td3v hours before funsec. im faster at cutting and pasting than they are, and its known that the funsec'ers are taking cut-n-paste ideas from the n3td3v group and posting them into funsec. there are too many familiar match ups with the stories on funsec that are on n3td3v group. in news its all about timing, and funsec just don't cut-n-paste good enough compared to n3td3v mailing-list-group. i've had a look at my members list, and yes, key funsec members are subscribed and are sleuthing cut-n-paste ideas from my group into their group. who's the cut-n-paste daddy then? On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 11:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Don't argue with the stache. On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 16:47:52 -0500 n3td3v [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 9:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) They almost certainly were more involved in it than the cut-n- paste says. so why do they offer no unique information with their cut-n- paste if they are so heavily involved? ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Charset: UTF8 Version: Hush 3.0 Note: This signature can be verified at https://www.hushtools.com/verify wpwEAQMCAAYFAkkkomsACgkQ8J2EGU1ixm5gYgP/fmf8qMRCmfLW7duJZPSWu8zVSpL l IoZoF8wSteuDytil3nLa5qCa5NoJ/B9slzJHhKwShnS2CnjJHGVkdKG6xzhihKg68Ei u ZW9D8CFKzOztjAG45WYfZSE8f1O5G/JTPP/H3arDb0K9WYLQHlKF00WWVMd80znp/Uu e 4ZqTiZk= =rjbb -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Click to become an artist and quit your boring job. http://tagline.hushmail.com/fc/PnY6qxtRjnqalw3zIXZdTScyx331TILb2axF fPDERdG7hjzGOJne1/ ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Charset: UTF8 Version: Hush 3.0 Note: This signature can be verified at https://www.hushtools.com/verify wpwEAQMCAAYFAkkldQYACgkQ8J2EGU1ixm4smAP9F3P8h5qLCXKt/CHKJ6uTQrPg1rDr I8gcX0VMFpo1gn0yLlclVu5Gst7GSggataEz+TQKyLkD+dFmWgS0/l3gYGGTntlXqQkh d4HNg3cxSxG7MgrOuXl86kFM8OiBeqVy5xd+3HqY0v3U+/Kn37ec/MocB4XvdRYtHjMP zCUWZh8= =3CZU -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Spending too much on ink? Click to find great prices on ink cartridges. http://tagline.hushmail.com/fc/PnY6qxs8hI174sPAIMW0FBvu2QiJVGKsIBgR1yUHkR7naGPFGOa3O/ ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] Fwd: Three London hospitals have been forced to shut down their entire computer systems for at least 24 hours after being hit by a virus
This is why sensible people have your email filtered. n3td3v [EMAIL PROTECTED] why don't you complain about cut-n-paste bloggers on funsec who don't have any unique information of their own and just copypaste lines from the written media? why are you spear targeting me, when lord evron co do exactly the same thing. or don't you have a problem with cut-n-paste bloggers and infact you're just knit-picking over words that *i* copypaste for the benefit of others? it just seems rich that you talk about cut-n-paste bloggers when thats all funsec is and is all lord evron, paul ferguson and juha-matti ever do. are you just jealous that i have managed to get such a following in the security community that at present i have a mailing list group of 5000 subscribers and growing? go and screw your self valdis and give your mustache a brush down. thanks :) ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] Fwd: Three London hospitals have been forced to shut down their entire computer systems for at least 24 hours after being hit by a virus
On Tuesday 18 November 2008 11:06:20 am n3td3v wrote: Three London hospitals have been forced to shut down their entire computer systems for at least 24 hours after being hit by a virus. [...snipped...] The spokesman said the virus was not malicious, and the infection was self-contained. How did the computer(s) get infected? -- http://zoidtechnologies.com/ information systems that suck less ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] Fwd: Three London hospitals have been forced to shut down their entire computer systems for at least 24 hours after being hit by a virus
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 11:32:53 -0400, Jeff MacDonald said: The spokesman said the virus was not malicious, and the infection was self-contained. How did the computer(s) get infected? He's using the term self-contained to mean 100% of the machines on the net are infected so it can't get much worse. You know, kind of how a fire will eventually go out once it runs out of combustibles. (And yes, I know there's tire dump, peat, and coal mine fires that have been smoldering for 30-40 year now... eventually doesn't always mean in your lifetime) pgpqQUuxLBgnc.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] Fwd: Three London hospitals have been forced to shut down their entire computer systems for at least 24 hours after being hit by a virus
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Jeff MacDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 18 November 2008 11:06:20 am n3td3v wrote: Three London hospitals have been forced to shut down their entire computer systems for at least 24 hours after being hit by a virus. [...snipped...] The spokesman said the virus was not malicious, and the infection was self-contained. How did the computer(s) get infected? According to n3td3v sources it was the Mytob worm that done it... -- Forwarded message -- From: n3td3v [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 8:58 PM Subject: Computer virus infects three London hospitals To: n3td3v [EMAIL PROTECTED] The virus is believed to be the Mytob worm, which spreads via e-mail and plants a backdoor Trojan on infected computers that can be used to remotely take control of the machine, according to security firm Sophos. There will, no doubt, be concerns that the confidentiality of patients' data may have been put at risk, and the hospitals will surely be keen to reassure the public that security has been maintained, Graham Cluley, senior technology consultant at Sophos, wrote in a post on his blog. http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-10101392-83.html ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] Fwd: Three London hospitals have been forced to shut down their entire computer systems for at least 24 hours after being hit by a virus
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 17:14:28 GMT, n3td3v said: According to n3td3v sources it was the Mytob worm that done it... Hint: When trying to make it look like you have actual personal sources, it helps when you *don't* include the cnet.com URL that you cut-n-pasted your source from. pgpPftMdaVRTv.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] Fwd: Three London hospitals have been forced to shut down their entire computer systems for at least 24 hours after being hit by a virus
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 6:08 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 17:14:28 GMT, n3td3v said: According to n3td3v sources it was the Mytob worm that done it... Hint: When trying to make it look like you have actual personal sources, it helps when you *don't* include the cnet.com URL that you cut-n-pasted your source from. you're the only one who mentioned personal sources i was talking about cnet the whole time. ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] Fwd: Three London hospitals have been forced to shut down their entire computer systems for at least 24 hours after being hit by a virus
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 8:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 20:01:14 GMT, you said: According to n3td3v sources it was the Mytob worm that done it... ^^ you're the only one who mentioned personal sources i was talking about cnet the whole time. Usually, when people say my sources told me, it doesn't mean they frikking saw it on CNN. Or maybe in your cut-n-paste-blogger world, it does. why don't you complain about cut-n-paste bloggers on funsec who don't have any unique information of their own and just copypaste lines from the written media? why are you spear targeting me, when lord evron co do exactly the same thing. or don't you have a problem with cut-n-paste bloggers and infact you're just knit-picking over words that *i* copypaste for the benefit of others? it just seems rich that you talk about cut-n-paste bloggers when thats all funsec is and is all lord evron, paul ferguson and juha-matti ever do. are you just jealous that i have managed to get such a following in the security community that at present i have a mailing list group of 5000 subscribers and growing? go and screw your self valdis and give your mustache a brush down. thanks :) ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] Fwd: Three London hospitals have been forced to shut down their entire computer systems for at least 24 hours after being hit by a virus
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 20:45:34 GMT, n3td3v said: why don't you complain about cut-n-paste bloggers on funsec who don't Because the cut-n-paste bloggers on funsec are up-front about it, and don't start off with my sources tell me... you talk about cut-n-paste bloggers when thats all funsec is and is all lord evron, paul ferguson and juha-matti ever do. The *real* problem here is that when they cut-n-paste a URL about Intercage or McColo or similar, you know two things: 1) They almost certainly were more involved in it than the cut-n-paste says. 2) You weren't. And it bugs the crap out of you. pgpHeh85ZY3aI.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] Fwd: Three London hospitals have been forced to shut down their entire computer systems for at least 24 hours after being hit by a virus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Don't argue with the stache. On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 16:47:52 -0500 n3td3v [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 9:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) They almost certainly were more involved in it than the cut-n- paste says. so why do they offer no unique information with their cut-n-paste if they are so heavily involved? ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Charset: UTF8 Version: Hush 3.0 Note: This signature can be verified at https://www.hushtools.com/verify wpwEAQMCAAYFAkkkomsACgkQ8J2EGU1ixm5gYgP/fmf8qMRCmfLW7duJZPSWu8zVSpLl IoZoF8wSteuDytil3nLa5qCa5NoJ/B9slzJHhKwShnS2CnjJHGVkdKG6xzhihKg68Eiu ZW9D8CFKzOztjAG45WYfZSE8f1O5G/JTPP/H3arDb0K9WYLQHlKF00WWVMd80znp/Uue 4ZqTiZk= =rjbb -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Save hundreds on an Unsecured Loan - Click here. http://tagline.hushmail.com/fc/PnY6qxtViP3XygkuzofdiB00PEZ8pGCJ0SN3sYa7AquO258kqUOGs/ ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] Fwd: Three London hospitals have been forced to shut down their entire computer systems for at least 24 hours after being hit by a virus
don't argue with the heavily involved cut-n-paste people! they are far better than the non-involved cut-n-paste people at cutting and pasting. even though the same news that is on funsec is on n3td3v hours before funsec. im faster at cutting and pasting than they are, and its known that the funsec'ers are taking cut-n-paste ideas from the n3td3v group and posting them into funsec. there are too many familiar match ups with the stories on funsec that are on n3td3v group. in news its all about timing, and funsec just don't cut-n-paste good enough compared to n3td3v mailing-list-group. i've had a look at my members list, and yes, key funsec members are subscribed and are sleuthing cut-n-paste ideas from my group into their group. who's the cut-n-paste daddy then? On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 11:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Don't argue with the stache. On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 16:47:52 -0500 n3td3v [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 9:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) They almost certainly were more involved in it than the cut-n- paste says. so why do they offer no unique information with their cut-n-paste if they are so heavily involved? ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Charset: UTF8 Version: Hush 3.0 Note: This signature can be verified at https://www.hushtools.com/verify wpwEAQMCAAYFAkkkomsACgkQ8J2EGU1ixm5gYgP/fmf8qMRCmfLW7duJZPSWu8zVSpLl IoZoF8wSteuDytil3nLa5qCa5NoJ/B9slzJHhKwShnS2CnjJHGVkdKG6xzhihKg68Eiu ZW9D8CFKzOztjAG45WYfZSE8f1O5G/JTPP/H3arDb0K9WYLQHlKF00WWVMd80znp/Uue 4ZqTiZk= =rjbb -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Click to become an artist and quit your boring job. http://tagline.hushmail.com/fc/PnY6qxtRjnqalw3zIXZdTScyx331TILb2axFfPDERdG7hjzGOJne1/ ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] Fwd: Three London hospitals have been forced to shut down their entire computer systems for at least 24 hours after being hit by a virus
Just a quick note to the list that I am not a subscriber of that n3td3v mailing list mentioned and I have no need to use ideas from that list. Additionally, I don't even know where the n3td3v mailing list archive exists. Juha-Matti n3td3v [EMAIL PROTECTED] kirjoitti: don't argue with the heavily involved cut-n-paste people! they are far better than the non-involved cut-n-paste people at cutting and pasting. even though the same news that is on funsec is on n3td3v hours before funsec. im faster at cutting and pasting than they are, and its known that the funsec'ers are taking cut-n-paste ideas from the n3td3v group and posting them into funsec. there are too many familiar match ups with the stories on funsec that are on n3td3v group. in news its all about timing, and funsec just don't cut-n-paste good enough compared to n3td3v mailing-list-group. i've had a look at my members list, and yes, key funsec members are subscribed and are sleuthing cut-n-paste ideas from my group into their group. who's the cut-n-paste daddy then? On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 11:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Don't argue with the stache. On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 16:47:52 -0500 n3td3v [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 9:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) They almost certainly were more involved in it than the cut-n- paste says. so why do they offer no unique information with their cut-n-paste if they are so heavily involved? ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Charset: UTF8 Version: Hush 3.0 Note: This signature can be verified at https://www.hushtools.com/verify wpwEAQMCAAYFAkkkomsACgkQ8J2EGU1ixm5gYgP/fmf8qMRCmfLW7duJZPSWu8zVSpLl IoZoF8wSteuDytil3nLa5qCa5NoJ/B9slzJHhKwShnS2CnjJHGVkdKG6xzhihKg68Eiu ZW9D8CFKzOztjAG45WYfZSE8f1O5G/JTPP/H3arDb0K9WYLQHlKF00WWVMd80znp/Uue 4ZqTiZk= =rjbb -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Click to become an artist and quit your boring job. http://tagline.hushmail.com/fc/PnY6qxtRjnqalw3zIXZdTScyx331TILb2axFfPDERdG7hjzGOJne1/ ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
[Full-disclosure] Fwd: Three London hospitals have been forced to shut down their entire computer systems for at least 24 hours after being hit by a virus
-- Forwarded message -- From: n3td3v [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 3:54 PM Subject: Three London hospitals have been forced to shut down their entire computer systems for at least 24 hours after being hit by a virus To: n3td3v [EMAIL PROTECTED] Three London hospitals have been forced to shut down their entire computer systems for at least 24 hours after being hit by a virus. St Bartholomew's (Barts) in the City, the Royal London Hospital in Whitechapel and The London Chest Hospital in Bethnal Green are affected. A spokesman said well-rehearsed emergency procedures were in place. Theatres and outpatient departments had remained operational, and patients with appointments were still being seen. The spokesman said walk-in patients were being accepted at accident and emergency, and processed using manual back-up systems. But ambulances were being diverted to neighbouring hospitals to ensure that seriously ill patients did not suffer as a result of the slower manual systems being used. The patient transport system used by elderly or disabled patients to attend routine appointments has also been disrupted. The spokesman said the virus was not malicious, and the infection was self-contained. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7735502.stm ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
