Re: [Full-disclosure] Gadi Evron strikes again

2007-09-24 Thread Dude VanWinkle
On 9/22/07, Richard Golodner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> WoriedSecurity said"blah, blah, nothing".
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> Do you know Gadi? Have you ever corresponded with him? He adds some valuable
> knowledge to a legitimate issue that most Service Providers down to the home
> user should be aware of.
>
> I read the "serious 0-day" thread and I think you are just pissed off. If
> you had some balls you would use your real name like most legitimate
> networkers do instead of hiding behind a pseudonym.
>
> Check Gadi's work and see for yourself instead of letting your hurt feelings
> get in the way. Talk about script kiddies. Jesus man, are you sure you real
> name is not n3td3v?

Actually, if you check the posts on funsec from [EMAIL PROTECTED], it
is his real name, and the same guy posting.. Just like gobbles :-P

-JP

I do not see anyone soliciting your opinion about
> anything. What have you contributed to the body of knowledge? All I read is
> juvenile BS. Mail from WorriedSecurity now gets dumped before it even sees
> my mail client.
>
> Thanks for making it clear that you're an ass.
>
> Richard Golodner
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>  
>
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of worried security
>  Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 9:11 AM
>  To: full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk
>  Subject: [Full-disclosure] Gadi Evron strikes again
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>
>
>
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> Who seen Gadi Evron on the mailing lists trolling about what a 0day is and
> what a 0day isn't, in the middle of a serious disclosure about a PDF flaw?
>
>
>
>
>
> Hilarious.
>
>
>
>
>
> Well, just incase you missed it, here it is again...
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> http://seclists.org/bugtraq/2007/Sep/0229.html
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>
>
>
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> And this guy wants to be a high profile guy at the forefront of information
> security discussion?
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>
>
>
>
> lolzers.
>
>
>
>
>
> Script kiddos unite behind the big man Evron.
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>
>
>
>
> He leads, where the rest of us follow.
>
>
>
>
>
> And he comes on the lists complaining people are mimicing his e-mail
> addresses and calling him a dick. *I wonder why?*
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Its funny, he strongly keeps an eye on Funsec mailing list and keeps
> everyone in check,Yet, he has a total disregard for "quality control" else
> where, especially on Bugtraq
>
>
>
>
>
> My question is "Who is Gadi Evron?".
>
>
>
>
>
> This guy you would think would add something special to a discussion, but he
> doesn't, and you know what I know his excuse is? He is keeping his knowledge
> secret so bad guys can't learn from his knowledge.
>
>
>
>
>
> lolzers Gadi Evron.
>
>
>
>
>
> The truth is, Gadi just wants to make sure his name and e-mail address is in
> every major flaw disclosure, no matter how lame the comment is, just as long
> as his name and e-mail is in high profile disclosures, then Gadi Evron can
> sleep at night.
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks Gadi!!! My hero.
>
>
>
>
>
> Bugtraq is moderated for a reason, so Bugtraq moderators, start moderating
> it!!! Symantec arsewipes.
>
>
>
>
>
> Securityfocus, no really, why are you allowing Gadi Evron troll on such a
> high profile respected moderated list? Gadi's comment mentioned above was a
> true breach of the rules, so start moderating his comments more in future.
>
>
>
>
>
> Leave the trolling for F-D Gadi, Bugtraq readers don't want to see your shit
> in future, and Bugtraq moderators, actually read what Gadi Evron is posting
> in future, instead of just reading the name and sender and approving the
> message without actually reading the body.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Oh its Gadi, its automatically approved*
>
>
>
>
>
> Lets look at Bugtraq's description:
>
>
>
>
>
> "BugTraq is a full disclosure moderated mailing list for the *detailed*
> discussion and announcement of computer security vulnerabilities: what they
> are, how to exploit them, and how to fix them. "
> http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/description#0.1.1
>
>
>
>
>
> lolzers, Bugtraq moderators don't read thier own shit or inforce it!
>
>
>
>
>
> Someone snip a bit of that description that gives Gadi right of way to troll
> on Bugtraq in the middle of serious flaw disclosures!
>
>
>
>
>
> Gadi, seriously f**king learn about the stuff you read , so you can actually
> input into the threads and help with the topic infront o

Re: [Full-disclosure] Gadi Evron strikes again

2007-09-24 Thread Joel R. Helgeson
Everyone knows who Gadi is, so by definition, Gadi *is* high profile.

I happen to agree with Gadi, that a 0day is the day an EXPLOIT is RELEASED,
where such exploit also serves as the ONLY vendor notification of a bug
being discovered. Every adult on this list understands the definition, but
the kids can't seem to grasp the not-so-subtle nuance  between a 0day and
the discovery of a bug in someone else's code.

This supposedly serious disclosure you refer to is a non-event, there was a
"press release" about a supposedly serious flaw in PDF, there were no
details, so therefore it doesn't even count as disclosure of a
vulnerability.

 

-joel

 

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of worried
security
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 8:11 AM
To: full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk
Subject: [Full-disclosure] Gadi Evron strikes again

 

Who seen Gadi Evron on the mailing lists trolling about what a 0day is and
what a 0day isn't, in the middle of a serious disclosure about a PDF flaw?

 

Hilarious.

 

Well, just incase you missed it, here it is again...

 

http://seclists.org/bugtraq/2007/Sep/0229.html

 

And this guy wants to be a high profile guy at the forefront of information
security discussion?

 

lolzers.

 

Script kiddos unite behind the big man Evron.

 

He leads, where the rest of us follow.

 

And he comes on the lists complaining people are mimicing his e-mail
addresses and calling him a dick. *I wonder why?*

 

Its funny, he strongly keeps an eye on Funsec mailing list and keeps
everyone in check,Yet, he has a total disregard for "quality control" else
where, especially on Bugtraq

 

My question is "Who is Gadi Evron?".

 

This guy you would think would add something special to a discussion, but he
doesn't, and you know what I know his excuse is? He is keeping his knowledge
secret so bad guys can't learn from his knowledge. 

 

lolzers Gadi Evron.

 

The truth is, Gadi just wants to make sure his name and e-mail address is in
every major flaw disclosure, no matter how lame the comment is, just as long
as his name and e-mail is in high profile disclosures, then Gadi Evron can
sleep at night. 

 

Thanks Gadi!!! My hero.

 

Bugtraq is moderated for a reason, so Bugtraq moderators, start moderating
it!!! Symantec arsewipes.

 

Securityfocus, no really, why are you allowing Gadi Evron troll on such a
high profile respected moderated list? Gadi's comment mentioned above was a
true breach of the rules, so start moderating his comments more in future. 

 

Leave the trolling for F-D Gadi, Bugtraq readers don't want to see your shit
in future, and Bugtraq moderators, actually read what Gadi Evron is posting
in future, instead of just reading the name and sender and approving the
message without actually reading the body. 

 

*Oh its Gadi, its automatically approved*

 

Lets look at Bugtraq's description:

 

"BugTraq is a full disclosure moderated mailing list for the *detailed*
discussion and announcement of computer security vulnerabilities: what they
are, how to exploit them, and how to fix them. "
http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/description#0.1.1

 

lolzers, Bugtraq moderators don't read thier own shit or inforce it!

 

Someone snip a bit of that description that gives Gadi right of way to troll
on Bugtraq in the middle of serious flaw disclosures!

 

Gadi, seriously f**king learn about the stuff you read , so you can actually
input into the threads and help with the topic infront of you, instead of
random off-topic messages about what defines a 0-day and what doesn't. 

 

Why didn't you start your own thread on Bugtraq about "what is a 0-day?",
because they wouldn't let you Instead you sneak your shit into high
profile threads, to get a name for yourself.

 

Your conversation, as always Gadi, is best suited for Full-Disclosure or
security-basics, so get the f*** off Bugtraq you idiot.

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Re: [Full-disclosure] Gadi Evron strikes again

2007-09-22 Thread gjgowey
I think the real problem is that worried security suffers from undescended 
testicles.

Geoff

Sent from my BlackBerry wireless handheld.

-Original Message-
From: "Richard Golodner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 11:33:10 
To:"'worried security'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Gadi Evron strikes again


WoriedSecurity said”blah, blah, nothing”. 
Do you know Gadi? Have you ever corresponded with him? He adds some valuable 
knowledge to a legitimate issue that most Service Providers down to the home 
user should be aware of. 
I read the “serious 0-day” thread and I think you are just pissed off. If you 
had some balls you would use your real name like most legitimate networkers do 
instead of hiding behind a pseudonym. 
Check Gadi’s work and see for yourself instead of letting your hurt feelings 
get in the way. Talk about script kiddies. Jesus man, are you sure you real 
name is not n3td3v? I do not see anyone soliciting your opinion about anything. 
What have you contributed to the body of knowledge? All I read is juvenile BS. 
Mail from WorriedSecurity now gets dumped before it even sees my mail client. 
    Thanks for making it clear that you’re an ass. 
Richard Golodner 
  
 
 

 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of worried security
 Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 9:11 AM
 To: full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk
 Subject: [Full-disclosure] Gadi Evron strikes again 
  
 
Who seen Gadi Evron on the mailing lists trolling about what a 0day is and what 
a 0day isn't, in the middle of a serious disclosure about a PDF flaw? 
 
  
 
Hilarious. 
 
  
 
Well, just incase you missed it, here it is again... 
 
  
 
http://seclists.org/bugtraq/2007/Sep/0229.html 
<http://seclists.org/bugtraq/2007/Sep/0229.html> 
 
  
 
And this guy wants to be a high profile guy at the forefront of information 
security discussion? 
 
  
 
lolzers. 
 
  
 
Script kiddos unite behind the big man Evron. 
 
  
 
He leads, where the rest of us follow. 
 
  
 
And he comes on the lists complaining people are mimicing his e-mail addresses 
and calling him a dick. *I wonder why?* 
 
  
 
 
Its funny, he strongly keeps an eye on Funsec mailing list and keeps everyone 
in check,Yet, he has a total disregard for "quality control" else where, 
especially on Bugtraq 
 
  
 
My question is "Who is Gadi Evron?". 
 
  
 
This guy you would think would add something special to a discussion, but he 
doesn't, and you know what I know his excuse is? He is keeping his knowledge 
secret so bad guys can't learn from his knowledge. 
 
  
 
lolzers Gadi Evron. 
 
  
 
The truth is, Gadi just wants to make sure his name and e-mail address is in 
every major flaw disclosure, no matter how lame the comment is, just as long as 
his name and e-mail is in high profile disclosures, then Gadi Evron can sleep 
at night. 
 
  
 
Thanks Gadi!!! My hero. 
 
  
 
Bugtraq is moderated for a reason, so Bugtraq moderators, start moderating 
it!!! Symantec arsewipes. 
 
  
 
Securityfocus, no really, why are you allowing Gadi Evron troll on such a high 
profile respected moderated list? Gadi's comment mentioned above was a true 
breach of the rules, so start moderating his comments more in future. 
 
  
 
Leave the trolling for F-D Gadi, Bugtraq readers don't want to see your shit in 
future, and Bugtraq moderators, actually read what Gadi Evron is posting in 
future, instead of just reading the name and sender and approving the message 
without actually reading the body. 
 
  
 
*Oh its Gadi, its automatically approved* 
 
  
 
Lets look at Bugtraq's description: 
 
  
 
"BugTraq is a full disclosure moderated mailing list for the *detailed* 
discussion and announcement of computer security vulnerabilities: what they 
are, how to exploit them, and how to fix them. " 
http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/description#0.1.1 
 
  
 
lolzers, Bugtraq moderators don't read thier own shit or inforce it! 
 
  
 
Someone snip a bit of that description that gives Gadi right of way to troll on 
Bugtraq in the middle of serious flaw disclosures! 
 
  
 
Gadi, seriously f**king learn about the stuff you read , so you can actually 
input into the threads and help with the topic infront of you, instead of 
random off-topic messages about what defines a 0-day and what doesn't. 
 
  
 
Why didn't you start your own thread on Bugtraq about "what is a 0-day?", 
because they wouldn't let you Instead you sneak your shit into high profile 
threads, to get a name for yourself. 
 
  
 
Your conversation, as always Gadi, is best suited for Full-Disclosure or 
security-basics, so get the f*** off Bugtraq you idiot. 
___
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Re: [Full-disclosure] Gadi Evron strikes again

2007-09-22 Thread Richard Golodner
WoriedSecurity said"blah, blah, nothing".

Do you know Gadi? Have you ever corresponded with him? He adds some valuable
knowledge to a legitimate issue that most Service Providers down to the home
user should be aware of. 

I read the "serious 0-day" thread and I think you are just pissed off. If
you had some balls you would use your real name like most legitimate
networkers do instead of hiding behind a pseudonym. 

Check Gadi's work and see for yourself instead of letting your hurt feelings
get in the way. Talk about script kiddies. Jesus man, are you sure you real
name is not n3td3v? I do not see anyone soliciting your opinion about
anything. What have you contributed to the body of knowledge? All I read is
juvenile BS. Mail from WorriedSecurity now gets dumped before it even sees
my mail client.

Thanks for making it clear that you're an ass.

Richard Golodner

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of worried
security
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 9:11 AM
To: full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk
Subject: [Full-disclosure] Gadi Evron strikes again

 

Who seen Gadi Evron on the mailing lists trolling about what a 0day is and
what a 0day isn't, in the middle of a serious disclosure about a PDF flaw?

 

Hilarious.

 

Well, just incase you missed it, here it is again...

 

http://seclists.org/bugtraq/2007/Sep/0229.html

 

And this guy wants to be a high profile guy at the forefront of information
security discussion?

 

lolzers.

 

Script kiddos unite behind the big man Evron.

 

He leads, where the rest of us follow.

 

And he comes on the lists complaining people are mimicing his e-mail
addresses and calling him a dick. *I wonder why?*

 

Its funny, he strongly keeps an eye on Funsec mailing list and keeps
everyone in check,Yet, he has a total disregard for "quality control" else
where, especially on Bugtraq

 

My question is "Who is Gadi Evron?".

 

This guy you would think would add something special to a discussion, but he
doesn't, and you know what I know his excuse is? He is keeping his knowledge
secret so bad guys can't learn from his knowledge. 

 

lolzers Gadi Evron.

 

The truth is, Gadi just wants to make sure his name and e-mail address is in
every major flaw disclosure, no matter how lame the comment is, just as long
as his name and e-mail is in high profile disclosures, then Gadi Evron can
sleep at night. 

 

Thanks Gadi!!! My hero.

 

Bugtraq is moderated for a reason, so Bugtraq moderators, start moderating
it!!! Symantec arsewipes.

 

Securityfocus, no really, why are you allowing Gadi Evron troll on such a
high profile respected moderated list? Gadi's comment mentioned above was a
true breach of the rules, so start moderating his comments more in future. 

 

Leave the trolling for F-D Gadi, Bugtraq readers don't want to see your shit
in future, and Bugtraq moderators, actually read what Gadi Evron is posting
in future, instead of just reading the name and sender and approving the
message without actually reading the body. 

 

*Oh its Gadi, its automatically approved*

 

Lets look at Bugtraq's description:

 

"BugTraq is a full disclosure moderated mailing list for the *detailed*
discussion and announcement of computer security vulnerabilities: what they
are, how to exploit them, and how to fix them. "
http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/description#0.1.1

 

lolzers, Bugtraq moderators don't read thier own shit or inforce it!

 

Someone snip a bit of that description that gives Gadi right of way to troll
on Bugtraq in the middle of serious flaw disclosures!

 

Gadi, seriously f**king learn about the stuff you read , so you can actually
input into the threads and help with the topic infront of you, instead of
random off-topic messages about what defines a 0-day and what doesn't. 

 

Why didn't you start your own thread on Bugtraq about "what is a 0-day?",
because they wouldn't let you Instead you sneak your shit into high
profile threads, to get a name for yourself.

 

Your conversation, as always Gadi, is best suited for Full-Disclosure or
security-basics, so get the f*** off Bugtraq you idiot.

___
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Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html
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[Full-disclosure] Gadi Evron strikes again

2007-09-22 Thread worried security
Who seen Gadi Evron on the mailing lists trolling about what a 0day is and
what a 0day isn't, in the middle of a serious disclosure about a PDF flaw?

Hilarious.

Well, just incase you missed it, here it is again...

http://seclists.org/bugtraq/2007/Sep/0229.html

And this guy wants to be a high profile guy at the forefront of information
security discussion?

lolzers.

Script kiddos unite behind the big man Evron.

He leads, where the rest of us follow.

And he comes on the lists complaining people are mimicing his e-mail
addresses and calling him a dick. *I wonder why?*

 Its funny, he strongly keeps an eye on Funsec mailing list and keeps
everyone in check,Yet, he has a total disregard for "quality control" else
where, especially on Bugtraq

My question is "Who is Gadi Evron?".

This guy you would think would add something special to a discussion, but he
doesn't, and you know what I know his excuse is? He is keeping his knowledge
secret so bad guys can't learn from his knowledge.

lolzers Gadi Evron.

The truth is, Gadi just wants to make sure his name and e-mail address is in
every major flaw disclosure, no matter how lame the comment is, just as long
as his name and e-mail is in high profile disclosures, then Gadi Evron can
sleep at night.

Thanks Gadi!!! My hero.

Bugtraq is moderated for a reason, so Bugtraq moderators, start moderating
it!!! Symantec arsewipes.

Securityfocus, no really, why are you allowing Gadi Evron troll on such a
high profile respected moderated list? Gadi's comment mentioned above was a
true breach of the rules, so start moderating his comments more in future.

Leave the trolling for F-D Gadi, Bugtraq readers don't want to see your shit
in future, and Bugtraq moderators, actually read what Gadi Evron is posting
in future, instead of just reading the name and sender and approving the
message without actually reading the body.

*Oh its Gadi, its automatically approved*

Lets look at Bugtraq's description:

"BugTraq is a full disclosure moderated mailing list for the *detailed*
discussion and announcement of computer security vulnerabilities: what they
are, how to exploit them, and how to fix them. "
http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/description#0.1.1

lolzers, Bugtraq moderators don't read thier own shit or inforce it!

Someone snip a bit of that description that gives Gadi right of way to troll
on Bugtraq in the middle of serious flaw disclosures!

Gadi, seriously f**king learn about the stuff you read , so you can actually
input into the threads and help with the topic infront of you, instead of
random off-topic messages about what defines a 0-day and what doesn't.

Why didn't you start your own thread on Bugtraq about "what is a 0-day?",
because they wouldn't let you Instead you sneak your shit into high
profile threads, to get a name for yourself.

Your conversation, as always Gadi, is best suited for Full-Disclosure or
security-basics, so get the f*** off Bugtraq you idiot.
___
Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.
Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html
Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/