Re: [Full-disclosure] Hacking software is lame -- try medical research...

2007-09-24 Thread S/U/N
Kristian Erik Hermansen a écrit :

 If we consider ourselves decent hackers, why don't we put our
 efforts toward helping cure this and other diseases rather than some
 very simple programming vulnerability?  Is it because then we would
 have to reinvent a whole new slew of tools and re-orient/re-educate
 ourselves to be successful?  Think about it…
   
1- Because coders are bad doctors
2- Because you have to convince your neighbourhood that a decent medical 
system is a right for everybody in america.
This is not the case today, American's health system had been sold to 
hedge funds.
This is obtained via diebolt voting machine card hacking, and THIS is code.


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[Full-disclosure] Hacking software is lame -- try medical research...

2007-09-21 Thread Kristian Erik Hermansen
Some interesting discussion came up on some security lists this week
and it got me to thinking.  Yes, hacking software is lame.  Cool, so
you found some vulnerabilities in some widely distributed application,
service, or OS and it is patched just as quickly.  Why don't we spend
our time and valuable energy researching cures for rare or popular
diseases instead?  For instance, my brother (Jon Hermansen) has a very
rare disease called Langerhans Cell Histiocytosis.  It is also better
known as LCH.  It can be identified as causing such further diseases
as Diabetes Insipidus, which is also uncommon (not sugar diabetes).
Have you heard of these diseases before?  Let me educate you…

General Information:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Langerhans_cell_histiocytosis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diabetes_insipidus

Seven Part Video Series:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=KkBRqZS8nfM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=w1h6ZjxF-To
http://youtube.com/watch?v=0ojbJpERlt8
http://youtube.com/watch?v=dzUqdYofMCQ
http://youtube.com/watch?v=lNhzwNYhi0M
http://youtube.com/watch?v=nY9DDEhShcE
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5_8SEYyEZGI

And even worse than this, a friend of mine who is a PhD student in
Math at Berkeley has an even rarer disease known as Gaucher's Disease.
 This costs $550,000 / year to treat.  That's a hefty bill every year
(you make that much doing security vulns?), and some insurance
companies might refuse to accept you due to pre-existing conditions.
 So guess what, my friend does not have health insurance and has not
been treated for two years.  A genius might die.  That's ludicrous.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaucher's_disease
http://youtube.com/watch?v=0nX6QM5iVaU

If we consider ourselves decent hackers, why don't we put our
efforts toward helping cure this and other diseases rather than some
very simple programming vulnerability?  Is it because then we would
have to reinvent a whole new slew of tools and re-orient/re-educate
ourselves to be successful?  Think about it…
-- 
Kristian Erik Hermansen

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Re: [Full-disclosure] Hacking software is lame -- try medical research...

2007-09-21 Thread full-disclosure
Dear Kristian Erik Hermansen,

It sounds like you are friends with a lot of people that would make
good Youtube material[1].

What makes your friends so special?  A lot of geniuses are dying in
the world.  Consider African children[2] that are smart enough to
crawl towards food, but fail en route and become food for the
lesser intelligent lultures.

It sounds like your friend has had a good life up to this point,
and is much more fortunate than most Asian children[3].  Sure his
life might be ending soon, but at least he got to eyefuck a lot of
babes at Berkeley.

Maybe if his health were important to him he'd be studying
something pertinent to helping other people.  Medicine or
anthropology perhaps!

... or is it because he needs the achievement of getting a PhD in
something, and knows he may not live long enough to become a real
doctor?  Or is he too stupid to understand that not all doctors
cure diseases?  Maybe God wants this guy to die.

I read somewhere that incest can lead to various genetic defects. 
If you don't have what your brother has, which one of your parents
is lying?

Maybe you should cross-post your stupid fucking sob story to other
unrelated industries' mailing lists.  I'm sure the food industry
wants to stop producing frozen waffle technologies to direct their
efforts to save a couple random fat people that you know.

In closing, I hope you also become Youtube material sometime.  Soon.

[1] http://tinyurl.com/2blvo5
[2] http://tinyurl.com/2n5xk4
[3] http://tinyurl.com/yoj2a6



On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 13:37:20 -0400 Kristian Erik Hermansen 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Some interesting discussion came up on some security lists this 
week
and it got me to thinking.  Yes, hacking software is lame.  Cool, 
so
you found some vulnerabilities in some widely distributed 
application,
service, or OS and it is patched just as quickly.  Why don't we 
spend
our time and valuable energy researching cures for rare or popular
diseases instead?  For instance, my brother (Jon Hermansen) has a 
very
rare disease called Langerhans Cell Histiocytosis.  It is also 
better
known as LCH.  It can be identified as causing such further 
diseases
as Diabetes Insipidus, which is also uncommon (not sugar 
diabetes).
Have you heard of these diseases before?  Let me educate you…

General Information:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Langerhans_cell_histiocytosis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diabetes_insipidus

Seven Part Video Series:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=KkBRqZS8nfM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=w1h6ZjxF-To
http://youtube.com/watch?v=0ojbJpERlt8
http://youtube.com/watch?v=dzUqdYofMCQ
http://youtube.com/watch?v=lNhzwNYhi0M
http://youtube.com/watch?v=nY9DDEhShcE
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5_8SEYyEZGI

And even worse than this, a friend of mine who is a PhD student in
Math at Berkeley has an even rarer disease known as Gaucher's 
Disease.
 This costs $550,000 / year to treat.  That's a hefty bill every 
year
(you make that much doing security vulns?), and some insurance
companies might refuse to accept you due to pre-existing 
conditions.
 So guess what, my friend does not have health insurance and has 
not
been treated for two years.  A genius might die.  That's 
ludicrous.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaucher's_disease
http://youtube.com/watch?v=0nX6QM5iVaU

If we consider ourselves decent hackers, why don't we put our
efforts toward helping cure this and other diseases rather than 
some
very simple programming vulnerability?  Is it because then we 
would
have to reinvent a whole new slew of tools and re-orient/re-
educate
ourselves to be successful?  Think about it…
-- 
Kristian Erik Hermansen

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