Re: [Full-disclosure] How to Handle ISPs Who Turn a Blind Eye to Criminal Activity?

2007-10-14 Thread phioust
If gadi evron was killed who would read the named.conf man page at defcon
every year? I was also wondering why does it happen that every year *right*
before gadi talks the botnet he was going to take down live *disappears*.

conspiracy?

On 10/13/07, worried security [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You do know criminals read the mailing lists don't you? and if MI6 speak
 about preventing criminals and terrorists on the internet, they are very
 careful about what they say and their voice is distorted.
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/nol/newsid_615/newsid_6153000/6153092.stm?bw=bbmp=rmnol_storyid=6153092news=1

 those are obviously security folks who know what they're doing. but what
 do ferg and gadi do, they speak on public mailing lists about preventing
 criminal and terrorist activity, while inviting people to join them at
 security conferences, inviting them to their blogs and not all, their
 photographs are openly available on the internet. ever tried suicide lately?


 the subject title is from a currently active thread on Nanog mailing list,
 which I have big problem over in terms of the saftey of gadi and ferg,
 because already someone on Full-Disclosure threatened to kill Gadi Evron,
 and even if it was just a kiddie joke, there are probably real gangsters and
 terrorists on the list who would kill you.
 Be careful what you say in public.

 Here is the thread related to what i'm talking about:
 http://www.merit.edu/mail.archives/nanog/msg03638.html


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[Full-disclosure] How to Handle ISPs Who Turn a Blind Eye to Criminal Activity?

2007-10-13 Thread worried security
You do know criminals read the mailing lists don't you? and if MI6 speak
about preventing criminals and terrorists on the internet, they are very
careful about what they say and their voice is distorted.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/nol/newsid_615/newsid_6153000/6153092.stm?bw=bbmp=rmnol_storyid=6153092news=1

those are obviously security folks who know what they're doing. but what do
ferg and gadi do, they speak on public mailing lists about preventing
criminal and terrorist activity, while inviting people to join them at
security conferences, inviting them to their blogs and not all, their
photographs are openly available on the internet. ever tried suicide lately?

the subject title is from a currently active thread on Nanog mailing list,
which I have big problem over in terms of the saftey of gadi and ferg,
because already someone on Full-Disclosure threatened to kill Gadi Evron,
and even if it was just a kiddie joke, there are probably real gangsters and
terrorists on the list who would kill you.
Be careful what you say in public.

Here is the thread related to what i'm talking about:
http://www.merit.edu/mail.archives/nanog/msg03638.html
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