Re: [Full-disclosure] Inside India’s CAPTCHA Solvin g Economy

2008-08-31 Thread Raj Mathur
On Sunday 31 Aug 2008, n3td3v wrote:
 At least its giving hundreds of thousands of poor indians employment,
 by paying them to manually create internet accounts for bot net
 herders to use. I don't know if thats what the Dancho Danchev blog
 post is about because I refuse to read anything by him or Zdnet. This
 activity of the bad guys employing poor internet users from
 developing countries isn't new. The bad guys, they target the folks
 in the developing countries to spend all day signing up web accounts
 manually, as they don't need to pay them an awful lot of money to do
 it, and they don't need to care about CAPTCHAs, because the poor
 citizens of the developing countries are entering the legitimate
 CAPTCHA word manually on behalf of the bad guys. There is a whole
 industry for it out there, and the folks in the developing countries
 don't mind helping out because they don't have much money and are
 pretty desperate, and to be honest, they don't actually know a lot of
 the time the scale of the operation they are getting involved in but
 they probably don't really care.

Thank you for the extremely patronising and ill-informed post.

I'd suggest the next time you don't have a clue about a region you keep 
your mouth shut and be thought an idiot, rather than open it and be 
confirmed as one.

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Re: [Full-disclosure] Inside India’s CAPTCHA Solvin g Economy

2008-08-30 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On August 31, 2008 2:43:32 AM +0300 Razi Shaban [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:




 If nothing else, CAPTCHA is increasing the bad guys' costs of doing
business, and that's a good thing.



By two dollars per thousand email addresses. Yahoo allows 100 emails
per hour. That means that they're spending two dollars to send
2,400,000 emails per day.

Sounds pretty expensive to me.


Try reading.  I never said it made it expensive.  I said it *increased* 
their cost of doing business.  Every penny they spend on de-CAPTCHA is one 
less penny in their pockets.


Paul Schmehl, If it isn't already
obvious, my opinions are my own
and not those of my employer.
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Re: [Full-disclosure] Inside India’s CAPTCHA Solvin g Economy

2008-08-30 Thread Raj Mathur
On Sunday 31 Aug 2008, n3td3v wrote:
 At least its giving hundreds of thousands of poor indians employment,
 by paying them to manually create internet accounts for bot net
 herders to use. I don't know if thats what the Dancho Danchev blog
 post is about because I refuse to read anything by him or Zdnet. This
 activity of the bad guys employing poor internet users from
 developing countries isn't new. The bad guys, they target the folks
 in the developing countries to spend all day signing up web accounts
 manually, as they don't need to pay them an awful lot of money to do
 it, and they don't need to care about CAPTCHAs, because the poor
 citizens of the developing countries are entering the legitimate
 CAPTCHA word manually on behalf of the bad guys. There is a whole
 industry for it out there, and the folks in the developing countries
 don't mind helping out because they don't have much money and are
 pretty desperate, and to be honest, they don't actually know a lot of
 the time the scale of the operation they are getting involved in but
 they probably don't really care.

Thank you for the extremely patronising and ill-informed post.

I'd suggest the next time you don't have a clue about a region you keep 
your mouth shut and be thought an idiot, rather than open it and be 
confirmed as one.

-- Raju
-- 
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