Re: [Full-disclosure] Inside India’s CAPTCHA Solvin g Economy
On Sunday 31 Aug 2008, n3td3v wrote: At least its giving hundreds of thousands of poor indians employment, by paying them to manually create internet accounts for bot net herders to use. I don't know if thats what the Dancho Danchev blog post is about because I refuse to read anything by him or Zdnet. This activity of the bad guys employing poor internet users from developing countries isn't new. The bad guys, they target the folks in the developing countries to spend all day signing up web accounts manually, as they don't need to pay them an awful lot of money to do it, and they don't need to care about CAPTCHAs, because the poor citizens of the developing countries are entering the legitimate CAPTCHA word manually on behalf of the bad guys. There is a whole industry for it out there, and the folks in the developing countries don't mind helping out because they don't have much money and are pretty desperate, and to be honest, they don't actually know a lot of the time the scale of the operation they are getting involved in but they probably don't really care. Thank you for the extremely patronising and ill-informed post. I'd suggest the next time you don't have a clue about a region you keep your mouth shut and be thought an idiot, rather than open it and be confirmed as one. -- Raju -- Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F It is the mind that moves ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] Inside India’s CAPTCHA Solvin g Economy
--On August 31, 2008 2:43:32 AM +0300 Razi Shaban [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If nothing else, CAPTCHA is increasing the bad guys' costs of doing business, and that's a good thing. By two dollars per thousand email addresses. Yahoo allows 100 emails per hour. That means that they're spending two dollars to send 2,400,000 emails per day. Sounds pretty expensive to me. Try reading. I never said it made it expensive. I said it *increased* their cost of doing business. Every penny they spend on de-CAPTCHA is one less penny in their pockets. Paul Schmehl, If it isn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ** WARNING: Check the headers before replying p7sxDlG2PCA7x.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] Inside India’s CAPTCHA Solvin g Economy
On Sunday 31 Aug 2008, n3td3v wrote: At least its giving hundreds of thousands of poor indians employment, by paying them to manually create internet accounts for bot net herders to use. I don't know if thats what the Dancho Danchev blog post is about because I refuse to read anything by him or Zdnet. This activity of the bad guys employing poor internet users from developing countries isn't new. The bad guys, they target the folks in the developing countries to spend all day signing up web accounts manually, as they don't need to pay them an awful lot of money to do it, and they don't need to care about CAPTCHAs, because the poor citizens of the developing countries are entering the legitimate CAPTCHA word manually on behalf of the bad guys. There is a whole industry for it out there, and the folks in the developing countries don't mind helping out because they don't have much money and are pretty desperate, and to be honest, they don't actually know a lot of the time the scale of the operation they are getting involved in but they probably don't really care. Thank you for the extremely patronising and ill-informed post. I'd suggest the next time you don't have a clue about a region you keep your mouth shut and be thought an idiot, rather than open it and be confirmed as one. -- Raju -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/