[Full-disclosure] Its time to break the news to Ureleet

2008-11-26 Thread n3td3v 
Its time to break the news to Ureleet so he will stop whining, I
contacted Cnet 11 months ago on this very issue. Keep up with the
smear campaign though Mr.leet.

-- Forwarded message --
From: n3td3v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 8:36 PM
Subject: i'm worried
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Ok guys, here is the heads up, i've been copy&pasting news articles
from your site and putting them on my mailing list to inform people
about stuff.

I worry though because i've just noticed this:

http://www.cnetnetworks.com/editorial/terms.html

Content on our sites
Our sites include a combination of content that we create, that our
partners create, and that our users create. All materials published on
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or in any way exploit any of the materials or content on our sites in
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I am worried that I might be infringing on a copy crime and i don't
wish this to happen, i just want to know where i stand in the future.

If you have a problem with me copying your news articles to my mailing
list, let me know.

this is a real worry for n3td3v, as I want to be legal and above board
in everything I do.

Most of the news I post to my news group is security news by Robert Vamosi.

Here is a sample of the news I have been posting.

http://groups.google.com/group/n3td3v/browse_thread/thread/8091aaea4594a3d

I have clearly marked the article with the link to the cnet news
website, so I hope this is acceptable for me to post your news because
I city the original source at the bottom of the e-mail.

If there is a problem with what I do, then reply making your point of
view, otherwise just ignore this e-mail.

I will assume silence means a green light and i've not breached the rules.

All the best,

n3td3v

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Re: [Full-disclosure] Its time to break the news to Ureleet

2008-11-26 Thread n3td3v 
Are me and Gadi going to get sued?

On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:23 PM, Jim Race <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> whoops.
>
> -jim
>
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 1:57 PM, n3td3v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Its time to break the news to Ureleet so he will stop whining, I
>> contacted Cnet 11 months ago on this very issue. Keep up with the
>> smear campaign though Mr.leet.
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: n3td3v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 8:36 PM
>> Subject: i'm worried
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>
>> Ok guys, here is the heads up, i've been copy&pasting news articles
>> from your site and putting them on my mailing list to inform people
>> about stuff.
>>
>> I worry though because i've just noticed this:
>>
>> http://www.cnetnetworks.com/editorial/terms.html
>>
>> Content on our sites
>> Our sites include a combination of content that we create, that our
>> partners create, and that our users create. All materials published on
>> our sites, including, but not limited to, written content,
>> photographs, graphics, images, illustrations, marks, logos, sound or
>> video clips, and Flash animation, are protected by our copyrights or
>> trademarks or those of our partners. You may not modify, publish,
>> transmit, participate in the transfer or sale of, reproduce, create
>> derivative works of, distribute, publicly perform, publicly display,
>> or in any way exploit any of the materials or content on our sites in
>> whole or in part. If you would like to request permission to use any
>> of the content on our sites, please review our copyright notice and
>> visit our Permissions and Reprints page.
>>
>> I am worried that I might be infringing on a copy crime and i don't
>> wish this to happen, i just want to know where i stand in the future.
>>
>> If you have a problem with me copying your news articles to my mailing
>> list, let me know.
>>
>> this is a real worry for n3td3v, as I want to be legal and above board
>> in everything I do.
>>
>> Most of the news I post to my news group is security news by Robert
>> Vamosi.
>>
>> Here is a sample of the news I have been posting.
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/n3td3v/browse_thread/thread/8091aaea4594a3d
>>
>> I have clearly marked the article with the link to the cnet news
>> website, so I hope this is acceptable for me to post your news because
>> I city the original source at the bottom of the e-mail.
>>
>> If there is a problem with what I do, then reply making your point of
>> view, otherwise just ignore this e-mail.
>>
>> I will assume silence means a green light and i've not breached the rules.
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> n3td3v
>>
>> ___
>> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.
>> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html
>> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
>>
>
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Re: [Full-disclosure] Its time to break the news to Ureleet

2008-11-26 Thread Jim Race 
http://www.cnetnetworks.com/editorial/terms.html

Content on our sites
Our sites include a combination of content that we create, that our
partners create, and that our users create. All materials published on
our sites, including, but not limited to, written content,
photographs, graphics, images, illustrations, marks, logos, sound or
video clips, and Flash animation, are protected by our copyrights or
trademarks or those of our partners. You may not modify, publish,
transmit, participate in the transfer or sale of, reproduce, create
derivative works of, distribute, publicly perform, publicly display,
or in any way exploit any of the materials or content on our sites in
whole or in part. If you would like to request permission to use any
of the content on our sites, *please review our copyright notice and
visit our Permissions and Reprints page.*

Miss this part?

http://www.cnetnetworks.com/editorial/permissions.html

"

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below
   .
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whoops.

-jim

On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 1:57 PM, n3td3v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Its time to break the news to Ureleet so he will stop whining, I
> contacted Cnet 11 months ago on this very issue. Keep up with the
> smear campaign though Mr.leet.
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: n3td3v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 8:36 PM
> Subject: i'm worried
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> Ok guys, here is the heads up, i've been copy&pasting news articles
> from your site and putting them on my mailing list to inform people
> about stuff.
>
> I worry though because i've just noticed this:
>
> http://www.cnetnetworks.com/editorial/terms.html
>
> Content on our sites
> Our sites include a combination of content that we create, that our
> partners create, and that our users create. All materials published on
> our sites, including, but not limited to, written content,
> photographs, graphics, images, illustrations, marks, logos, sound or
> video clips, and Flash animation, are protected by our copyrights or
> trademarks or those of our partners. You may not modify, publish,
> transmit, participate in the transfer or sale of, reproduce, create
> derivative works of, distribute, publicly perform, publicly display,
> or in any way exploit any of the materials or content on our sites in
> whole or in part. If you would like to request permission to use any
> of the content on our sites, please review our copyright notice and
> visit our Permissions and Reprints page.
>
> I am worried that I might be infringing on a copy crime and i don't
> wish this to happen, i just want to know where i stand in the future.
>
> If you have a problem with me copying your news articles to my mailing
> list, let me know.
>
> this is a real worry for n3td3v, as I want to be legal and above board
> in everything I do.
>
> Most of the news I post to my news group is security news by Robert Vamosi.
>
> Here is a sample of the news I have been posting.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/n3td3v/browse_thread/thread/8091aaea4594a3d
>
> I have clearly marked the article with the link to the cnet news
> website, so I hope this is acceptable for me to post your news because
> I city the original source at the bottom of the e-mail.
>
> If there is a problem with what I do, then reply making your point of
> view, otherwise just ignore this e-mail.
>
> I will assume silence means a green light and i've not breached the rules.
>
> All the best,
>
> n3td3v
>
> ___
> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.
> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html
> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
>
>
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Re: [Full-disclosure] Its time to break the news to Ureleet

2008-11-26 Thread kuza55 
We can only hope.

2008/11/27 n3td3v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Are me and Gadi going to get sued?
>
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:23 PM, Jim Race <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> http://www.cnetnetworks.com/editorial/terms.html
>>
>> Content on our sites
>> Our sites include a combination of content that we create, that our
>> partners create, and that our users create. All materials published on
>> our sites, including, but not limited to, written content,
>> photographs, graphics, images, illustrations, marks, logos, sound or
>> video clips, and Flash animation, are protected by our copyrights or
>> trademarks or those of our partners. You may not modify, publish,
>> transmit, participate in the transfer or sale of, reproduce, create
>> derivative works of, distribute, publicly perform, publicly display,
>> or in any way exploit any of the materials or content on our sites in
>> whole or in part. If you would like to request permission to use any
>> of the content on our sites, please review our copyright notice and
>> visit our Permissions and Reprints page.
>>
>> Miss this part?
>>
>> http://www.cnetnetworks.com/editorial/permissions.html
>>
>> "
>>
>> How to get permission
>>
>> Please submit a permissions request form below.
>> For information regarding hard-copy reprints, contact:
>>
>> Ray Trynovich
>> the YGS group
>> 717-399-1900, ext. 148
>>
>> In all cases, if permission is granted, stories must be reproduced in their
>> entirety, unedited, and accompanied by the following copyright statement and
>> credit: "Used with permission from CBS Interactive, Inc., Copyright 200_.
>> All rights reserved." Note: text, photos, graphics, audio and/or video
>> material provided via third parties, such as Reuters, shall not be
>> published, broadcast, rewritten for broadcast or publication, or
>> redistributed directly or indirectly in any medium. Neither third-party
>> materials nor any portion thereof may be stored in a computer except for
>> personal and noncommercial use. Third parties will not be held liable for
>> any delays, inaccuracies, errors, or omissions therefrom or in the
>> transmission or delivery of all or any part thereof or any damages arising
>> from any of the foregoing."
>>
>> whoops.
>>
>> -jim
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 1:57 PM, n3td3v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Its time to break the news to Ureleet so he will stop whining, I
>>> contacted Cnet 11 months ago on this very issue. Keep up with the
>>> smear campaign though Mr.leet.
>>>
>>> -- Forwarded message --
>>> From: n3td3v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Date: Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 8:36 PM
>>> Subject: i'm worried
>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>>
>>> Ok guys, here is the heads up, i've been copy&pasting news articles
>>> from your site and putting them on my mailing list to inform people
>>> about stuff.
>>>
>>> I worry though because i've just noticed this:
>>>
>>> http://www.cnetnetworks.com/editorial/terms.html
>>>
>>> Content on our sites
>>> Our sites include a combination of content that we create, that our
>>> partners create, and that our users create. All materials published on
>>> our sites, including, but not limited to, written content,
>>> photographs, graphics, images, illustrations, marks, logos, sound or
>>> video clips, and Flash animation, are protected by our copyrights or
>>> trademarks or those of our partners. You may not modify, publish,
>>> transmit, participate in the transfer or sale of, reproduce, create
>>> derivative works of, distribute, publicly perform, publicly display,
>>> or in any way exploit any of the materials or content on our sites in
>>> whole or in part. If you would like to request permission to use any
>>> of the content on our sites, please review our copyright notice and
>>> visit our Permissions and Reprints page.
>>>
>>> I am worried that I might be infringing on a copy crime and i don't
>>> wish this to happen, i just want to know where i stand in the future.
>>>
>>> If you have a problem with me copying your news articles to my mailing
>>> list, let me know.
>>>
>>> this is a real worry for n3td3v, as I want to be legal and above board
>>> in everything I do.
>>>
>>> Most of the news I post to my news group is security news by Robert
>>> Vamosi.
>>>
>>> Here is a sample of the news I have been posting.
>>>
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/n3td3v/browse_thread/thread/8091aaea4594a3d
>>>
>>> I have clearly marked the article with the link to the cnet news
>>> website, so I hope this is acceptable for me to post your news because
>>> I city the original source at the bottom of the e-mail.
>>>
>>> If there is a problem with what I do, then reply making your point of
>>> view, otherwise just ignore this e-mail.
>>>
>>> I will assume silence means a green light and i've not breached the rules.
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>> n3td3v
>>>
>>> ___
>>> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.
>>> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-dis

Re: [Full-disclosure] Its time to break the news to Ureleet

2008-11-27 Thread Mike C 
Hey n3td3v/ureleet,

Lets keep working on the offline resolution of the personal issues here,
before we continue back on the mailing list. This will be for the better of
security research industry.

--
MC

On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 3:27 AM, n3td3v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Its time to break the news to Ureleet so he will stop whining, I
> contacted Cnet 11 months ago on this very issue. Keep up with the
> smear campaign though Mr.leet.
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: n3td3v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 8:36 PM
> Subject: i'm worried
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> Ok guys, here is the heads up, i've been copy&pasting news articles
> from your site and putting them on my mailing list to inform people
> about stuff.
>
> I worry though because i've just noticed this:
>
> http://www.cnetnetworks.com/editorial/terms.html
>
> Content on our sites
> Our sites include a combination of content that we create, that our
> partners create, and that our users create. All materials published on
> our sites, including, but not limited to, written content,
> photographs, graphics, images, illustrations, marks, logos, sound or
> video clips, and Flash animation, are protected by our copyrights or
> trademarks or those of our partners. You may not modify, publish,
> transmit, participate in the transfer or sale of, reproduce, create
> derivative works of, distribute, publicly perform, publicly display,
> or in any way exploit any of the materials or content on our sites in
> whole or in part. If you would like to request permission to use any
> of the content on our sites, please review our copyright notice and
> visit our Permissions and Reprints page.
>
> I am worried that I might be infringing on a copy crime and i don't
> wish this to happen, i just want to know where i stand in the future.
>
> If you have a problem with me copying your news articles to my mailing
> list, let me know.
>
> this is a real worry for n3td3v, as I want to be legal and above board
> in everything I do.
>
> Most of the news I post to my news group is security news by Robert Vamosi.
>
> Here is a sample of the news I have been posting.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/n3td3v/browse_thread/thread/8091aaea4594a3d
>
> I have clearly marked the article with the link to the cnet news
> website, so I hope this is acceptable for me to post your news because
> I city the original source at the bottom of the e-mail.
>
> If there is a problem with what I do, then reply making your point of
> view, otherwise just ignore this e-mail.
>
> I will assume silence means a green light and i've not breached the rules.
>
> All the best,
>
> n3td3v
>
> ___
> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.
> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html
> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
>
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Re: [Full-disclosure] Its time to break the news to Ureleet

2008-11-27 Thread Ureleet 
stfu.

On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 2:53 AM, Mike C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey n3td3v/ureleet,
>
> Lets keep working on the offline resolution of the personal issues here,
> before we continue back on the mailing list. This will be for the better of
> security research industry.
>
> --
> MC
>
> On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 3:27 AM, n3td3v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Its time to break the news to Ureleet so he will stop whining, I
>> contacted Cnet 11 months ago on this very issue. Keep up with the
>> smear campaign though Mr.leet.
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: n3td3v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 8:36 PM
>> Subject: i'm worried
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>
>> Ok guys, here is the heads up, i've been copy&pasting news articles
>> from your site and putting them on my mailing list to inform people
>> about stuff.
>>
>> I worry though because i've just noticed this:
>>
>> http://www.cnetnetworks.com/editorial/terms.html
>>
>> Content on our sites
>> Our sites include a combination of content that we create, that our
>> partners create, and that our users create. All materials published on
>> our sites, including, but not limited to, written content,
>> photographs, graphics, images, illustrations, marks, logos, sound or
>> video clips, and Flash animation, are protected by our copyrights or
>> trademarks or those of our partners. You may not modify, publish,
>> transmit, participate in the transfer or sale of, reproduce, create
>> derivative works of, distribute, publicly perform, publicly display,
>> or in any way exploit any of the materials or content on our sites in
>> whole or in part. If you would like to request permission to use any
>> of the content on our sites, please review our copyright notice and
>> visit our Permissions and Reprints page.
>>
>> I am worried that I might be infringing on a copy crime and i don't
>> wish this to happen, i just want to know where i stand in the future.
>>
>> If you have a problem with me copying your news articles to my mailing
>> list, let me know.
>>
>> this is a real worry for n3td3v, as I want to be legal and above board
>> in everything I do.
>>
>> Most of the news I post to my news group is security news by Robert
>> Vamosi.
>>
>> Here is a sample of the news I have been posting.
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/n3td3v/browse_thread/thread/8091aaea4594a3d
>>
>> I have clearly marked the article with the link to the cnet news
>> website, so I hope this is acceptable for me to post your news because
>> I city the original source at the bottom of the e-mail.
>>
>> If there is a problem with what I do, then reply making your point of
>> view, otherwise just ignore this e-mail.
>>
>> I will assume silence means a green light and i've not breached the rules.
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> n3td3v
>>
>> ___
>> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.
>> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html
>> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
>
>
>

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