subject:"\[Full\-disclosure\] Open Letter to Lee Vartan, Assistant United States Attorney in regards to the Goatse Security iPad case."

and keeping US citizens safe from Russian and Chinese organized crime

Beyond this, I can't tell you the number of chink and russki botnet CNCs
we've popped over the years. As soon as the federales give back our
illegally stolen machines, I'll give you all the evidence you want of it.
We have years and years of good public service under our belts. Do you?

hahahahaha you're simply too funny

what you mean is you dumped your own shitty trojan on their systems (the
ones you couldnt sell...)

we all remember your rant about having 3k mac osx machines for sale

fucking retard you're forgetting that information on the internet doesnt go
away

you are a joke and you make me laugh

keep it up :)

2010/11/18 Andrew Auernheimer glutt...@gmail.com

The reality is that you are inconsequential to security because you
are a script kiddie.

Perhaps you are confused as to what this term means. Script kiddies
are people who do not produce innovation of their own, and solely run
things downloaded from Packetstorm. I have repeatedly stood up and
done unique things to advance my nation, not just in information
security but in an interdisciplinary manner. As far as my
accomplishments in information security, I recently watched one of
Samy Kamkar's presentations at Blackhat that cites our group
repeatedly. One of our advisories is mentioned in his slides:
http://i.imgur.com/YIl9I.jpg
and he also states that cross-protocol scripting was made big by us.

What about Robert Hansen/RSnake? He said I don’t see anyone outside
of a handful of people, like Weev, Wade Alcorn, Samy Kumkar, Aaron
Weaver and myself doing this kind of research. There’s literally
thousands of potentially exploitable services out there! --

http://ha.ckers.org/blog/20100329/safari-integer-overflow-aids-inter-protocol-exploitation/

RSnake is well respected in the security community. Does he suddenly
not know what he's talking about just for recognizing the validity of
my research? I have stacks of internal government memos highlighting
the implications of stuff we've outlined-- clearly a number of people
think the things that we're doing are notable and have real world
implications.

I do not post on this list looking for sympathy-- quite the opposite.
Unlike you, I believe in free speech, and even want to give my deepest
critics a chance to hop into the dialogue.
Finally, your profession deserves to be cheapened. I've actually
attempted to innovate, and who are you? Oh yeah, you're some dude that
hits a button on Core Impact for a living. There are a number of
amazing individuals in the information security community doing great
things, but for every one of them there's a hundred snake-oil peddling
losers who are the real scriptkiddies. Though dated, the PHC
production of the same name rings true for individuals such as
yourself. Maybe you should read it and it'll challenge you to actually
do something useful instead of tossing ad hominems on a mailing list:

http://antisec.wordpress.com/2005/12/18/hack4txt-a-phc-production-the-real-scriptkiddies/

On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 9:10 PM, R S fifteenfourty...@gmail.com wrote:

Speaking for only myself, I could care less about your personal /
political views. The reality is you are inconsequential to security because
you are a script kiddie. I had read articles about your various high profile
'trolling' incidents before, but until your asinine post here had never
bothered to research you. What I've read was nothing but humorous. At one
point you claim to hate bloggers, yet in a pre Web 2.0 world, you and your
Encyclopedia Dramatica generation script kiddies would have no notoriety at
all. Nobody would care about your bizarre high profile cries for attention,
and personally, I certainly don't.
You are a troll and a script kiddie. Your whiney rants have no place on a
mailing list for the security community. I'm sure the kids that support you
on various forums eat your crap up, but you will find little sympathy here.
You claim constantly to hunt pedophiles, thats great. Somehow I'm sure most
people in prison have done good in their lives as well as bad. Hopefully, if
my tax dollars do their job, you will have plenty of time in the near future
to contemplate all of this in jail.
Grow up kiddo. Personally I resent how you and your ilk cheapen this
profession, and applaud law enforcement for doing their job.

From: Andrew Auernheimer gluttony () gmail com
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 19:06:02 -0600

Troy,

As with many of my critics, you insist on attempting to libel me and
defame
my character (clearly having an objection to my political views) instead
of
honestly debating the merits of my actions and the reality of my many
well-received research contributions. I take ad hominem attacks like
yours
in stride with the civility and grace befitting of a Christian man, and
urge
you to think more

Re: [Full-disclosure] Open Letter to Lee Vartan, Assistant United States Attorney in regards to the Goatse Security iPad case.

Yawn, another nobody continuing to libel me. I've never performed any
such thing, nor attempted to sell trojaned computers. Continuing to
assert blatant falsehoods only lends credence to my case. Who are you?
What have you done that means anything or helps the world?

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:24 AM, huj huj huj datski...@gmail.com wrote:
and keeping US citizens safe from Russian and Chinese organized crime

hahahahaha you're simply too funny

what you mean is you dumped your own shitty trojan on their systems (the
ones you couldnt sell...)

we all remember your rant about having 3k mac osx machines for sale

fucking retard you're forgetting that information on the internet doesnt go
away

you are a joke and you make me laugh

keep it up :)

2010/11/18 Andrew Auernheimer glutt...@gmail.com

The reality is that you are inconsequential to security because you
are a script kiddie.

http://ha.ckers.org/blog/20100329/safari-integer-overflow-aids-inter-protocol-exploitation/

http://antisec.wordpress.com/2005/12/18/hack4txt-a-phc-production-the-real-scriptkiddies/

On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 9:10 PM, R S fifteenfourty...@gmail.com wrote:

Speaking for only myself, I could care less about your personal /
political views. The reality is you are inconsequential to security because
you are a script kiddie. I had read articles about your various high
profile
'trolling' incidents before, but until your asinine post here had never
bothered to research you. What I've read was nothing but humorous. At one
point you claim to hate bloggers, yet in a pre Web 2.0 world, you and your
Encyclopedia Dramatica generation script kiddies would have no notoriety at
all. Nobody would care about your bizarre high profile cries for attention,
and personally, I certainly don't.
You are a troll and a script kiddie. Your whiney rants have no place on
a mailing list for the security community. I'm sure the kids that support
you on various forums eat your crap up, but you will find little sympathy
here. You claim constantly to hunt pedophiles, thats great. Somehow I'm
sure
most people in prison have done good in their lives as well as bad.
Hopefully, if my tax dollars do their job, you will have plenty of time in
the near future to contemplate all of this in jail.
Grow up kiddo. Personally I resent how you and your ilk cheapen this
profession, and applaud law enforcement for doing their job.

From: Andrew Auernheimer gluttony () gmail com
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 19:06:02 -0600

Troy,

As with many of my critics, you

Re: [Full-disclosure] Open Letter to Lee Vartan, Assistant United States Attorney in regards to the Goatse Security iPad case.

yeah takes one to know one
you have always been a nobody chasing fame with silly memes and smalltime
trolling
you keep talking about what others have done
well i save starving children in africa
i singlehandedly removed all german pedophiles from pattaya in 2009
i stopped the cold war between usa and cccp
i could go on but i already copied your silly lies too much
let me recap
you have done absolutely nothing to help anyone but yourself
you are a greedy delusional drugaddict(hey i like drugs too but be
realistic)
all you want is fame for your shattered ego
if you weren't such a joke you would make me sick
have a nice day :)

2010/11/18 Andrew Auernheimer glutt...@gmail.com

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:24 AM, huj huj huj datski...@gmail.com wrote:
and keeping US citizens safe from Russian and Chinese organized crime

hahahahaha you're simply too funny

what you mean is you dumped your own shitty trojan on their systems (the
ones you couldnt sell...)

we all remember your rant about having 3k mac osx machines for sale

fucking retard you're forgetting that information on the internet doesnt
go
away

you are a joke and you make me laugh

keep it up :)

2010/11/18 Andrew Auernheimer glutt...@gmail.com

The reality is that you are inconsequential to security because you
are a script kiddie.

http://ha.ckers.org/blog/20100329/safari-integer-overflow-aids-inter-protocol-exploitation/

http://antisec.wordpress.com/2005/12/18/hack4txt-a-phc-production-the-real-scriptkiddies/

On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 9:10 PM, R S fifteenfourty...@gmail.com
wrote:

Re: [Full-disclosure] Open Letter to Lee Vartan, Assistant United States Attorney in regards to the Goatse Security iPad case.

ah sorry it was 8k owned macs you wanted to sell to the russians..
how very patriotic of you!!
cunt :)

09:50 weev i gotta get some money
09:50 weev my cashflow sucks
09:51 weev whores
09:51 weev lavish cars
09:51 weev gigantic places to live

15:05 weev does anybody know these russians
15:06 weev that they are buying up hacked macs for 43 cents an install
15:26 weev i have access to like
15:26 weev 8k rooted macs
15:26 weev right now
15:26 weev and i would like to make a quick $3500

2010/11/18 huj huj huj datski...@gmail.com

2010/11/18 Andrew Auernheimer glutt...@gmail.com

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:24 AM, huj huj huj datski...@gmail.com wrote:
and keeping US citizens safe from Russian and Chinese organized crime

Beyond this, I can't tell you the number of chink and russki botnet
CNCs
we've popped over the years. As soon as the federales give back our
illegally stolen machines, I'll give you all the evidence you want of
it.
We have years and years of good public service under our belts. Do you?

hahahahaha you're simply too funny

what you mean is you dumped your own shitty trojan on their systems (the
ones you couldnt sell...)

we all remember your rant about having 3k mac osx machines for sale

fucking retard you're forgetting that information on the internet doesnt
go
away

you are a joke and you make me laugh

keep it up :)

2010/11/18 Andrew Auernheimer glutt...@gmail.com

The reality is that you are inconsequential to security because you
are a script kiddie.

http://ha.ckers.org/blog/20100329/safari-integer-overflow-aids-inter-protocol-exploitation/

http://antisec.wordpress.com/2005/12/18/hack4txt-a-phc-production-the-real-scriptkiddies/

On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 9:10 PM, R S fifteenfourty...@gmail.com
wrote:

Speaking for only myself, I could care less about your personal /
political views. The reality is you are inconsequential to security
because
you are

Re: [Full-disclosure] Open Letter to Lee Vartan, Assistant United States Attorney in regards to the Goatse Security iPad case.

Lies? I have put forth absolutely bulletproof evidence of our past
fights against child pornography. We have been doing this for years
upon years, and will continue to do it. Similarly, we will continue
our fight against corrupt federal agents, Russian and Israeli
organized crime, snakeoil salesmen, and crackheaded idiots that can't
even post in complete sentences.

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:40 AM, huj huj huj datski...@gmail.com wrote:
yeah takes one to know one
you have always been a nobody chasing fame with silly memes and smalltime
trolling
you keep talking about what others have done
well i save starving children in africa
i singlehandedly removed all german pedophiles from pattaya in 2009
i stopped the cold war between usa and cccp
i could go on but i already copied your silly lies too much
let me recap
you have done absolutely nothing to help anyone but yourself
you are a greedy delusional drugaddict(hey i like drugs too but be
realistic)
all you want is fame for your shattered ego
if you weren't such a joke you would make me sick
have a nice day :)

2010/11/18 Andrew Auernheimer glutt...@gmail.com

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:24 AM, huj huj huj datski...@gmail.com wrote:
and keeping US citizens safe from Russian and Chinese organized crime

Beyond this, I can't tell you the number of chink and russki botnet
CNCs
we've popped over the years. As soon as the federales give back our
illegally stolen machines, I'll give you all the evidence you want of
it.
We have years and years of good public service under our belts. Do you?

hahahahaha you're simply too funny

what you mean is you dumped your own shitty trojan on their systems (the
ones you couldnt sell...)

we all remember your rant about having 3k mac osx machines for sale

fucking retard you're forgetting that information on the internet doesnt
go
away

you are a joke and you make me laugh

keep it up :)

2010/11/18 Andrew Auernheimer glutt...@gmail.com

The reality is that you are inconsequential to security because you
are a script kiddie.

http://ha.ckers.org/blog/20100329/safari-integer-overflow-aids-inter-protocol-exploitation/

http://antisec.wordpress.com/2005/12/18/hack4txt-a-phc-production-the-real-scriptkiddies/

On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 9:10 PM, R S fifteenfourty...@gmail.com
wrote:

Re: [Full-disclosure] Open Letter to Lee Vartan, Assistant United States Attorney in regards to the Goatse Security iPad case.

I never made those statements. They seem particularly ridiculous and
not even remotely in my rhetorical style. But for the sake of
argument, I have IRC logs showing that you're a degenerate shit eater:

01:42 Hujhujhuj last night I got a train run on me in a sling at a
pozzing party
01:42 Hujhujhuj i loved having an ass packed full of semen
01:42 Hujhujhuj after it was done 4 hairy bears shit on my chest
01:44 Hujhujhuj i packed the delicious feces into my mouth and i
loved every single scrumptious bite
01:46 Hujhujhuj im going to get tested later today, i hope its poz,
ive been trying for ages

What do you have to say for yourself?

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:42 AM, huj huj huj datski...@gmail.com wrote:
ah sorry it was 8k owned macs you wanted to sell to the russians..
how very patriotic of you!!
cunt :)

09:50 weev i gotta get some money
09:50 weev my cashflow sucks
09:51 weev whores
09:51 weev lavish cars
09:51 weev gigantic places to live

2010/11/18 huj huj huj datski...@gmail.com

2010/11/18 Andrew Auernheimer glutt...@gmail.com

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:24 AM, huj huj huj datski...@gmail.com wrote:
and keeping US citizens safe from Russian and Chinese organized crime

Beyond this, I can't tell you the number of chink and russki botnet
CNCs
we've popped over the years. As soon as the federales give back our
illegally stolen machines, I'll give you all the evidence you want of
it.
We have years and years of good public service under our belts. Do
you?

hahahahaha you're simply too funny

what you mean is you dumped your own shitty trojan on their systems
(the
ones you couldnt sell...)

we all remember your rant about having 3k mac osx machines for sale

fucking retard you're forgetting that information on the internet
doesnt go
away

you are a joke and you make me laugh

keep it up :)

2010/11/18 Andrew Auernheimer glutt...@gmail.com

The reality is that you are inconsequential to security because you
are a script kiddie.

http://ha.ckers.org/blog/20100329/safari-integer-overflow-aids-inter-protocol-exploitation/

Re: [Full-disclosure] Open Letter to Lee Vartan, Assistant United States Attorney in regards to the Goatse Security iPad case.

of course you didn't... and you also don't have a beard and post lame rants
as the iprophet :)
as for me eating fecal matter, you're just envious

you are not fighting anything other than your anonymity and empty wallet

stop pretending otherwise nobody believes your silly little lies and
misconceptions anyway

you and the rest of your losercrew can go suck a lemon

you were never anything.. hell hepkitten ousted you lol

loser



2010/11/18 Andrew Auernheimer glutt...@gmail.com

 I never made those statements. They seem particularly ridiculous and
 not even remotely in my rhetorical style. But for the sake of
 argument, I have IRC logs showing that you're a degenerate shit eater:

 01:42  Hujhujhuj last night I got a train run on me in a sling at a
 pozzing party
 01:42  Hujhujhuj i loved having an ass packed full of semen
 01:42  Hujhujhuj after it was done 4 hairy bears shit on my chest
 01:44  Hujhujhuj i packed the delicious feces into my mouth and i
 loved every single scrumptious bite
 01:46  Hujhujhuj im going to get tested later today, i hope its poz,
 ive been trying for ages

 What do you have to say for yourself?

 On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:42 AM, huj huj huj datski...@gmail.com wrote:
  ah sorry it was 8k owned macs you wanted to sell to the russians..
  how very patriotic of you!!
  cunt :)
 
  09:50 weev i gotta get some money
  09:50 weev my cashflow sucks
  09:51 weev whores
  09:51 weev lavish cars
  09:51 weev gigantic places to live
 
  15:05 weev does anybody know these russians
  15:06 weev that they are buying up hacked macs for 43 cents an install
  15:26 weev i have access to like
  15:26 weev 8k rooted macs
  15:26 weev right now
  15:26 weev and i would like to make a quick $3500
 
 
  2010/11/18 huj huj huj datski...@gmail.com
 
  yeah takes one to know one
  you have always been a nobody chasing fame with silly memes and
 smalltime
  trolling
  you keep talking about what others have done
  well i save starving children in africa
  i singlehandedly removed all german pedophiles from pattaya in 2009
  i stopped the cold war between usa and cccp
  i could go on but i already copied your silly lies too much
  let me recap
  you have done absolutely nothing to help anyone but yourself
  you are a greedy delusional drugaddict(hey i like drugs too but be
  realistic)
  all you want is fame for your shattered ego
  if you weren't such a joke you would make me sick
  have a nice day :)
 
  2010/11/18 Andrew Auernheimer glutt...@gmail.com
 
  Yawn, another nobody continuing to libel me. I've never performed any
  such thing, nor attempted to sell trojaned computers. Continuing to
  assert blatant falsehoods only lends credence to my case. Who are you?
  What have you done that means anything or helps the world?
 
  On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:24 AM, huj huj huj datski...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   and keeping US citizens safe from Russian and Chinese organized
 crime
  
   Beyond this, I can't tell you the number of chink and russki botnet
   CNCs
   we've popped over the years. As soon as the federales give back our
   illegally stolen machines, I'll give you all the evidence you want of
   it.
   We have years and years of good public service under our belts. Do
   you?
  
   hahahahaha you're simply too funny
  
   what you mean is you dumped your own shitty trojan on their systems
   (the
   ones you couldnt sell...)
  
   we all remember your rant about having 3k mac osx machines for sale
  
   fucking retard you're forgetting that information on the internet
   doesnt go
   away
  
   you are a joke and you make me laugh
  
  
   keep it up :)
  
  
  
   2010/11/18 Andrew Auernheimer glutt...@gmail.com
  
   The reality is that you are inconsequential to security because you
   are a script kiddie.
  
   Perhaps you are confused as to what this term means. Script kiddies
   are people who do not produce innovation of their own, and solely
 run
   things downloaded from Packetstorm. I have repeatedly stood up and
   done unique things to advance my nation, not just in information
   security but in an interdisciplinary manner. As far as my
   accomplishments in information security, I recently watched one of
   Samy Kamkar's presentations at Blackhat that cites our group
   repeatedly. One of our advisories is mentioned in his slides:
   http://i.imgur.com/YIl9I.jpg
   and he also states that cross-protocol scripting was made big by
 us.
  
   What about Robert Hansen/RSnake? He said I don’t see anyone outside
   of a handful of people, like Weev, Wade Alcorn, Samy Kumkar, Aaron
   Weaver and myself doing this kind of research. There’s literally
   thousands of potentially exploitable services out there! --
  
  
  
 http://ha.ckers.org/blog/20100329/safari-integer-overflow-aids-inter-protocol-exploitation/
  
   RSnake is well respected in the security community. Does he suddenly
   not know what he's talking about just for recognizing the validity
 of
   my research? I have stacks of

Re: [Full-disclosure] Open Letter to Lee Vartan, Assistant United States Attorney in regards to the Goatse Security iPad case.

I have never denied the extensive production of politically motivated
art I have produced, including the iProphet. I will continue making
such compelling art to evoke emotion in my audiences.

Regardless, the empirical evidence points to me being:

* An anti-organized crime and anti-child pornography activist, a
practice which I have been engaging in for years upon years. I have
extensive evidence of merit to back this up and can say it under
penalty of perjury.
* A consumer rights advocate and white hat security researcher,
something I have been cited by other respected researchers and won
awards for public service for:
http://techcrunch.com/2010/06/14/were-awarding-goatse-security-a-crunchie-award-for-public-service/

and your idea of a reliable source of information is... hepkitten?
Clearly the only joke here is you, buddy.

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:03 AM, huj huj huj datski...@gmail.com wrote:
 of course you didn't... and you also don't have a beard and post lame rants
 as the iprophet :)
 as for me eating fecal matter, you're just envious

 you are not fighting anything other than your anonymity and empty wallet

 stop pretending otherwise nobody believes your silly little lies and
 misconceptions anyway

 you and the rest of your losercrew can go suck a lemon

 you were never anything.. hell hepkitten ousted you lol

 loser


 2010/11/18 Andrew Auernheimer glutt...@gmail.com

 I never made those statements. They seem particularly ridiculous and
 not even remotely in my rhetorical style. But for the sake of
 argument, I have IRC logs showing that you're a degenerate shit eater:

 01:42  Hujhujhuj last night I got a train run on me in a sling at a
 pozzing party
 01:42  Hujhujhuj i loved having an ass packed full of semen
 01:42  Hujhujhuj after it was done 4 hairy bears shit on my chest
 01:44  Hujhujhuj i packed the delicious feces into my mouth and i
 loved every single scrumptious bite
 01:46  Hujhujhuj im going to get tested later today, i hope its poz,
 ive been trying for ages

 What do you have to say for yourself?

 On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:42 AM, huj huj huj datski...@gmail.com wrote:
  ah sorry it was 8k owned macs you wanted to sell to the russians..
  how very patriotic of you!!
  cunt :)
 
  09:50 weev i gotta get some money
  09:50 weev my cashflow sucks
  09:51 weev whores
  09:51 weev lavish cars
  09:51 weev gigantic places to live
 
  15:05 weev does anybody know these russians
  15:06 weev that they are buying up hacked macs for 43 cents an install
  15:26 weev i have access to like
  15:26 weev 8k rooted macs
  15:26 weev right now
  15:26 weev and i would like to make a quick $3500
 
 
  2010/11/18 huj huj huj datski...@gmail.com
 
  yeah takes one to know one
  you have always been a nobody chasing fame with silly memes and
  smalltime
  trolling
  you keep talking about what others have done
  well i save starving children in africa
  i singlehandedly removed all german pedophiles from pattaya in 2009
  i stopped the cold war between usa and cccp
  i could go on but i already copied your silly lies too much
  let me recap
  you have done absolutely nothing to help anyone but yourself
  you are a greedy delusional drugaddict(hey i like drugs too but be
  realistic)
  all you want is fame for your shattered ego
  if you weren't such a joke you would make me sick
  have a nice day :)
 
  2010/11/18 Andrew Auernheimer glutt...@gmail.com
 
  Yawn, another nobody continuing to libel me. I've never performed any
  such thing, nor attempted to sell trojaned computers. Continuing to
  assert blatant falsehoods only lends credence to my case. Who are you?
  What have you done that means anything or helps the world?
 
  On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:24 AM, huj huj huj datski...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   and keeping US citizens safe from Russian and Chinese organized
   crime
  
   Beyond this, I can't tell you the number of chink and russki botnet
   CNCs
   we've popped over the years. As soon as the federales give back our
   illegally stolen machines, I'll give you all the evidence you want
   of
   it.
   We have years and years of good public service under our belts. Do
   you?
  
   hahahahaha you're simply too funny
  
   what you mean is you dumped your own shitty trojan on their systems
   (the
   ones you couldnt sell...)
  
   we all remember your rant about having 3k mac osx machines for sale
  
   fucking retard you're forgetting that information on the internet
   doesnt go
   away
  
   you are a joke and you make me laugh
  
  
   keep it up :)
  
  
  
   2010/11/18 Andrew Auernheimer glutt...@gmail.com
  
   The reality is that you are inconsequential to security because
   you
   are a script kiddie.
  
   Perhaps you are confused as to what this term means. Script kiddies
   are people who do not produce innovation of their own, and solely
   run
   things downloaded from Packetstorm. I have repeatedly stood up and
   done unique things to advance my nation, not just in

Re: [Full-disclosure] Open Letter to Lee Vartan, Assistant United States Attorney in regards to the Goatse Security iPad case.

i didnt get the info from hepkitten? i dont see where you got that fact from
what i said was that hepkitten ousted you from bantown
maybe if you learned how to read your life would be easier..
white hat security researcher my ass
is phishing myspace and livejournal accounts through lame memes whitehat? i
doubt it..
get a grip and pull that dildo out of your ass you retard

2010/11/18 Andrew Auernheimer glutt...@gmail.com

 I have never denied the extensive production of politically motivated
 art I have produced, including the iProphet. I will continue making
 such compelling art to evoke emotion in my audiences.

 Regardless, the empirical evidence points to me being:

 * An anti-organized crime and anti-child pornography activist, a
 practice which I have been engaging in for years upon years. I have
 extensive evidence of merit to back this up and can say it under
 penalty of perjury.
 * A consumer rights advocate and white hat security researcher,
 something I have been cited by other respected researchers and won
 awards for public service for:

 http://techcrunch.com/2010/06/14/were-awarding-goatse-security-a-crunchie-award-for-public-service/

 and your idea of a reliable source of information is... hepkitten?
 Clearly the only joke here is you, buddy.

 On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:03 AM, huj huj huj datski...@gmail.com wrote:
  of course you didn't... and you also don't have a beard and post lame
 rants
  as the iprophet :)
  as for me eating fecal matter, you're just envious
 
  you are not fighting anything other than your anonymity and empty wallet
 
  stop pretending otherwise nobody believes your silly little lies and
  misconceptions anyway
 
  you and the rest of your losercrew can go suck a lemon
 
  you were never anything.. hell hepkitten ousted you lol
 
  loser
 
 
  2010/11/18 Andrew Auernheimer glutt...@gmail.com
 
  I never made those statements. They seem particularly ridiculous and
  not even remotely in my rhetorical style. But for the sake of
  argument, I have IRC logs showing that you're a degenerate shit eater:
 
  01:42  Hujhujhuj last night I got a train run on me in a sling at a
  pozzing party
  01:42  Hujhujhuj i loved having an ass packed full of semen
  01:42  Hujhujhuj after it was done 4 hairy bears shit on my chest
  01:44  Hujhujhuj i packed the delicious feces into my mouth and i
  loved every single scrumptious bite
  01:46  Hujhujhuj im going to get tested later today, i hope its poz,
  ive been trying for ages
 
  What do you have to say for yourself?
 
  On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:42 AM, huj huj huj datski...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   ah sorry it was 8k owned macs you wanted to sell to the russians..
   how very patriotic of you!!
   cunt :)
  
   09:50 weev i gotta get some money
   09:50 weev my cashflow sucks
   09:51 weev whores
   09:51 weev lavish cars
   09:51 weev gigantic places to live
  
   15:05 weev does anybody know these russians
   15:06 weev that they are buying up hacked macs for 43 cents an
 install
   15:26 weev i have access to like
   15:26 weev 8k rooted macs
   15:26 weev right now
   15:26 weev and i would like to make a quick $3500
  
  
   2010/11/18 huj huj huj datski...@gmail.com
  
   yeah takes one to know one
   you have always been a nobody chasing fame with silly memes and
   smalltime
   trolling
   you keep talking about what others have done
   well i save starving children in africa
   i singlehandedly removed all german pedophiles from pattaya in 2009
   i stopped the cold war between usa and cccp
   i could go on but i already copied your silly lies too much
   let me recap
   you have done absolutely nothing to help anyone but yourself
   you are a greedy delusional drugaddict(hey i like drugs too but be
   realistic)
   all you want is fame for your shattered ego
   if you weren't such a joke you would make me sick
   have a nice day :)
  
   2010/11/18 Andrew Auernheimer glutt...@gmail.com
  
   Yawn, another nobody continuing to libel me. I've never performed
 any
   such thing, nor attempted to sell trojaned computers. Continuing to
   assert blatant falsehoods only lends credence to my case. Who are
 you?
   What have you done that means anything or helps the world?
  
   On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:24 AM, huj huj huj datski...@gmail.com
   wrote:
and keeping US citizens safe from Russian and Chinese organized
crime
   
Beyond this, I can't tell you the number of chink and russki
 botnet
CNCs
we've popped over the years. As soon as the federales give back
 our
illegally stolen machines, I'll give you all the evidence you want
of
it.
We have years and years of good public service under our belts. Do
you?
   
hahahahaha you're simply too funny
   
what you mean is you dumped your own shitty trojan on their
 systems
(the
ones you couldnt sell...)
   
we all remember your rant about having 3k mac osx machines for
 sale
   
fucking retard you're forgetting that

Re: [Full-disclosure] Open Letter to Lee Vartan, Assistant United States Attorney in regards to the Goatse Security iPad case.

You're getting really incoherent. Do you need some ESL classes?
Perhaps you should contact one of those commercial services that write
college papers for lazy students to draft your FD troll posts.

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 5:12 AM, huj huj huj datski...@gmail.com wrote:
 i didnt get the info from hepkitten? i dont see where you got that fact from
 what i said was that hepkitten ousted you from bantown
 maybe if you learned how to read your life would be easier..
 white hat security researcher my ass
 is phishing myspace and livejournal accounts through lame memes whitehat? i
 doubt it..
 get a grip and pull that dildo out of your ass you retard

 2010/11/18 Andrew Auernheimer glutt...@gmail.com

 I have never denied the extensive production of politically motivated
 art I have produced, including the iProphet. I will continue making
 such compelling art to evoke emotion in my audiences.

 Regardless, the empirical evidence points to me being:

 * An anti-organized crime and anti-child pornography activist, a
 practice which I have been engaging in for years upon years. I have
 extensive evidence of merit to back this up and can say it under
 penalty of perjury.
 * A consumer rights advocate and white hat security researcher,
 something I have been cited by other respected researchers and won
 awards for public service for:

 http://techcrunch.com/2010/06/14/were-awarding-goatse-security-a-crunchie-award-for-public-service/

 and your idea of a reliable source of information is... hepkitten?
 Clearly the only joke here is you, buddy.

 On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:03 AM, huj huj huj datski...@gmail.com wrote:
  of course you didn't... and you also don't have a beard and post lame
  rants
  as the iprophet :)
  as for me eating fecal matter, you're just envious
 
  you are not fighting anything other than your anonymity and empty wallet
 
  stop pretending otherwise nobody believes your silly little lies and
  misconceptions anyway
 
  you and the rest of your losercrew can go suck a lemon
 
  you were never anything.. hell hepkitten ousted you lol
 
  loser
 
 
  2010/11/18 Andrew Auernheimer glutt...@gmail.com
 
  I never made those statements. They seem particularly ridiculous and
  not even remotely in my rhetorical style. But for the sake of
  argument, I have IRC logs showing that you're a degenerate shit eater:
 
  01:42  Hujhujhuj last night I got a train run on me in a sling at a
  pozzing party
  01:42  Hujhujhuj i loved having an ass packed full of semen
  01:42  Hujhujhuj after it was done 4 hairy bears shit on my chest
  01:44  Hujhujhuj i packed the delicious feces into my mouth and i
  loved every single scrumptious bite
  01:46  Hujhujhuj im going to get tested later today, i hope its poz,
  ive been trying for ages
 
  What do you have to say for yourself?
 
  On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:42 AM, huj huj huj datski...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   ah sorry it was 8k owned macs you wanted to sell to the russians..
   how very patriotic of you!!
   cunt :)
  
   09:50 weev i gotta get some money
   09:50 weev my cashflow sucks
   09:51 weev whores
   09:51 weev lavish cars
   09:51 weev gigantic places to live
  
   15:05 weev does anybody know these russians
   15:06 weev that they are buying up hacked macs for 43 cents an
   install
   15:26 weev i have access to like
   15:26 weev 8k rooted macs
   15:26 weev right now
   15:26 weev and i would like to make a quick $3500
  
  
   2010/11/18 huj huj huj datski...@gmail.com
  
   yeah takes one to know one
   you have always been a nobody chasing fame with silly memes and
   smalltime
   trolling
   you keep talking about what others have done
   well i save starving children in africa
   i singlehandedly removed all german pedophiles from pattaya in 2009
   i stopped the cold war between usa and cccp
   i could go on but i already copied your silly lies too much
   let me recap
   you have done absolutely nothing to help anyone but yourself
   you are a greedy delusional drugaddict(hey i like drugs too but be
   realistic)
   all you want is fame for your shattered ego
   if you weren't such a joke you would make me sick
   have a nice day :)
  
   2010/11/18 Andrew Auernheimer glutt...@gmail.com
  
   Yawn, another nobody continuing to libel me. I've never performed
   any
   such thing, nor attempted to sell trojaned computers. Continuing to
   assert blatant falsehoods only lends credence to my case. Who are
   you?
   What have you done that means anything or helps the world?
  
   On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:24 AM, huj huj huj datski...@gmail.com
   wrote:
and keeping US citizens safe from Russian and Chinese organized
crime
   
Beyond this, I can't tell you the number of chink and russki
botnet
CNCs
we've popped over the years. As soon as the federales give back
our
illegally stolen machines, I'll give you all the evidence you
want
of
it.
We have years and years of good public service under our belts.

Re: [Full-disclosure] Open Letter to Lee Vartan, Assistant United States Attorney in regards to the Goatse Security iPad case.

the pot calling the kettle black?
lol you are becoming increasingly delusional
maybe you should go back to eating out hepkitten
its no wonder your parents gave up on you..

2010/11/18 Andrew Auernheimer glutt...@gmail.com

 You're getting really incoherent. Do you need some ESL classes?
 Perhaps you should contact one of those commercial services that write
 college papers for lazy students to draft your FD troll posts.

 On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 5:12 AM, huj huj huj datski...@gmail.com wrote:
  i didnt get the info from hepkitten? i dont see where you got that fact
 from
  what i said was that hepkitten ousted you from bantown
  maybe if you learned how to read your life would be easier..
  white hat security researcher my ass
  is phishing myspace and livejournal accounts through lame memes whitehat?
 i
  doubt it..
  get a grip and pull that dildo out of your ass you retard
 
  2010/11/18 Andrew Auernheimer glutt...@gmail.com
 
  I have never denied the extensive production of politically motivated
  art I have produced, including the iProphet. I will continue making
  such compelling art to evoke emotion in my audiences.
 
  Regardless, the empirical evidence points to me being:
 
  * An anti-organized crime and anti-child pornography activist, a
  practice which I have been engaging in for years upon years. I have
  extensive evidence of merit to back this up and can say it under
  penalty of perjury.
  * A consumer rights advocate and white hat security researcher,
  something I have been cited by other respected researchers and won
  awards for public service for:
 
 
 http://techcrunch.com/2010/06/14/were-awarding-goatse-security-a-crunchie-award-for-public-service/
 
  and your idea of a reliable source of information is... hepkitten?
  Clearly the only joke here is you, buddy.
 
  On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:03 AM, huj huj huj datski...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   of course you didn't... and you also don't have a beard and post lame
   rants
   as the iprophet :)
   as for me eating fecal matter, you're just envious
  
   you are not fighting anything other than your anonymity and empty
 wallet
  
   stop pretending otherwise nobody believes your silly little lies and
   misconceptions anyway
  
   you and the rest of your losercrew can go suck a lemon
  
   you were never anything.. hell hepkitten ousted you lol
  
   loser
  
  
   2010/11/18 Andrew Auernheimer glutt...@gmail.com
  
   I never made those statements. They seem particularly ridiculous and
   not even remotely in my rhetorical style. But for the sake of
   argument, I have IRC logs showing that you're a degenerate shit
 eater:
  
   01:42  Hujhujhuj last night I got a train run on me in a sling at a
   pozzing party
   01:42  Hujhujhuj i loved having an ass packed full of semen
   01:42  Hujhujhuj after it was done 4 hairy bears shit on my chest
   01:44  Hujhujhuj i packed the delicious feces into my mouth and i
   loved every single scrumptious bite
   01:46  Hujhujhuj im going to get tested later today, i hope its
 poz,
   ive been trying for ages
  
   What do you have to say for yourself?
  
   On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:42 AM, huj huj huj datski...@gmail.com
   wrote:
ah sorry it was 8k owned macs you wanted to sell to the russians..
how very patriotic of you!!
cunt :)
   
09:50 weev i gotta get some money
09:50 weev my cashflow sucks
09:51 weev whores
09:51 weev lavish cars
09:51 weev gigantic places to live
   
15:05 weev does anybody know these russians
15:06 weev that they are buying up hacked macs for 43 cents an
install
15:26 weev i have access to like
15:26 weev 8k rooted macs
15:26 weev right now
15:26 weev and i would like to make a quick $3500
   
   
2010/11/18 huj huj huj datski...@gmail.com
   
yeah takes one to know one
you have always been a nobody chasing fame with silly memes and
smalltime
trolling
you keep talking about what others have done
well i save starving children in africa
i singlehandedly removed all german pedophiles from pattaya in
 2009
i stopped the cold war between usa and cccp
i could go on but i already copied your silly lies too much
let me recap
you have done absolutely nothing to help anyone but yourself
you are a greedy delusional drugaddict(hey i like drugs too but be
realistic)
all you want is fame for your shattered ego
if you weren't such a joke you would make me sick
have a nice day :)
   
2010/11/18 Andrew Auernheimer glutt...@gmail.com
   
Yawn, another nobody continuing to libel me. I've never performed
any
such thing, nor attempted to sell trojaned computers. Continuing
 to
assert blatant falsehoods only lends credence to my case. Who are
you?
What have you done that means anything or helps the world?
   
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:24 AM, huj huj huj 
 datski...@gmail.com
wrote:
 and keeping US citizens safe from Russian and

Re: [Full-disclosure] Open Letter to Lee Vartan, Assistant United States Attorney in regards to the Goatse Security iPad case.

2010-11-18 Thread coderman

On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Andrew Auernheimer glutt...@gmail.com wrote:
 ...
 Inspired by a sermon I heard at a Mormon stake conference,...

lol, wut?

maybe if the word of wisdom inspired you more you wouldn't be under fed heaters.

can't imagine this thread taking a more surreal, off-topic tangent,
but surely weev will deliver!

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Re: [Full-disclosure] Open Letter to Lee Vartan, Assistant United States Attorney in regards to the Goatse Security iPad case.

Coderman,

Everything I do is in service to Christ. I believe it is the opposite:
if you truly believe in the life and actions of Christ and you follow
his word in completeness, you will soon find yourself persecuted by
the Pharisees that run the world. Following Christ and avoiding
government sanction are utterly incompatible in this brave new world
we live in.

Who wants to bow to a lifeless, cold Jesus
That all of the preachers have painted their way
They hold their revivals, yet worship their idols
Serve God in title but to mammon they slave.
But the Jesus that I know stood up to rival
And calls His disciples to come do the same.

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 1:10 PM, coderman coder...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Andrew Auernheimer glutt...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 ...
 Inspired by a sermon I heard at a Mormon stake conference,...

 lol, wut?

 maybe if the word of wisdom inspired you more you wouldn't be under fed 
 heaters.

 can't imagine this thread taking a more surreal, off-topic tangent,
 but surely weev will deliver!


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Re: [Full-disclosure] Open Letter to Lee Vartan, Assistant United States Attorney in regards to the Goatse Security iPad case.

2010-11-18 Thread Andrew Kirch

Platitudes, lies, half truths, and bullsh*t aside Andrew, let's get down
to brass tacks.  By the time you get out of jail, there's not even going
to _BE_ IPv4 anymore.  What, with the multiple state level drug charges,
and the federal computer fraud charges, you've gotta be looking at at
least 20 years.  Mods, time to killfile this loser, I don't think he's
got any friends left here.

Andrew D Kirch

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Re: [Full-disclosure] Open Letter to Lee Vartan, Assistant United States Attorney in regards to the Goatse Security iPad case.

Hilarious words from a known criminal that made a statement that they
would put everyone from the GNAA in prison to nenolod. But thank you
for publicly and irrevocably demonstrating that you have a
longstanding ax to grind with me, so the logs you announced on IRC
that you altered in corroboration with two other parties now can no
longer be used in court.

Toodles, and thank you trelane 3

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 7:39 PM, Andrew Kirch trel...@trelane.net wrote:
 Platitudes, lies, half truths, and bullsh*t aside Andrew, let's get down
 to brass tacks.  By the time you get out of jail, there's not even going
 to _BE_ IPv4 anymore.  What, with the multiple state level drug charges,
 and the federal computer fraud charges, you've gotta be looking at at
 least 20 years.  Mods, time to killfile this loser, I don't think he's
 got any friends left here.

 Andrew D Kirch


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Re: [Full-disclosure] Open Letter to Lee Vartan, Assistant United States Attorney in regards to the Goatse Security iPad case.

2010-11-18 Thread FullDisclosure

From: phocean n...@phocean.net
 I am just a subscriber interested in security, not in someone's life or law 
 cases.

I disagree, law is a very serious part of this community.  Also you have to 
admit it's sort of funny.

From: Andrew Kirch trel...@trelane.net
 By the time you get out of jail, there's not even going
 to _BE_ IPv4 anymore.  What, with the multiple state level drug charges,
 and the federal computer fraud charges, you've gotta be looking at at
 least 20 years.

Doubt it on both cases.  As for charges, trullery can make serious enemies so 
who knows.  Maybe a moving target is harder to hit?

From: Andrew Auernheimer glutt...@gmail.com
 But thank you
 for publicly and irrevocably demonstrating that you have a
 longstanding ax to grind with me

Why dig a hole, why even do it.

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Re: [Full-disclosure] Open Letter to Lee Vartan, Assistant United States Attorney in regards to the Goatse Security iPad case.

2010-11-18 Thread Andrew Kirch

Known Criminal? wow, you're a nutcase.

On 11/18/2010 11:32 PM, Andrew Auernheimer wrote:
 Hilarious words from a known criminal that made a statement that they
 would put everyone from the GNAA in prison to nenolod. But thank you
 for publicly and irrevocably demonstrating that you have a
 longstanding ax to grind with me, so the logs you announced on IRC
 that you altered in corroboration with two other parties now can no
 longer be used in court.

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[Full-disclosure] Open Letter to Lee Vartan, Assistant United States Attorney in regards to the Goatse Security iPad case.

Howdy Lee,

I was originally outraged by your recent acts towards persecuting me and my
associates and extremely shaken up due to an unjust search which is based
upon multiple violations of the Fourth amendment. I believe that this
outrage, the emotional stress of being placed in solitary confinement for
multiple days without cause and previous harassment by the government lead
me to treat you less respectfully than I should, but as I was at the law
library (where I usually go for ethical guidance) I started reading some
Thomas Paine and experienced a revelation in how I should best proceed in
dealing with you and your actions.

* “He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from
oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that
will reach to himself.*” - Thomas Paine, Dissertation on First Principles of
Government

I’m writing you to help clarify this situation we continue to find ourselves
in. It appears that despite the obvious facts regarding the case you
continue to attempt prosecution on me. While information security experts
world wide (many of whom your department hire as expert witnesses), average
citizens, law analysis groups and consumer affairs groups continue to
support me; you seem to still be investigating me for some sort of criminal
act.

While I am sure that you are probably under a lot of pressure to produce
something, given that you obtained a secret quasi-legal warrant, have a
large amount of negative publicity on your office and name, and a growing
number of people asking why you are doing this. I’m sure that this pressure
is beginning to wear on your personal and professional relationships, and as
I am and always have been a supporter of the United States Government, I’d
like to offer some friendly advice before irreparable damages from your
actions spread to the rest of the Department of Justice.

There are a few options available to you at this point:

1. *Continue holding Grand Jury sessions and force an indictment.* I can in
no way advise this as it will cause harm to your professional reputation,
and force the Department of Justice towards a path of manufacturing
evidence. Social responsibility has always been at the core of everything we
do at Goatse Security, and this will be extraordinarily obvious at a trial.
Goatse has done large amounts of documented work in the areas of fighting
havens for pedophiles worldwide, protecting US infrastructure, and keeping
US citizens safe from Russian and Chinese organized crime. The DoJ has also
done this, and quite well at times, but we should work together for a common
goal, instead of fighting each other, and wasting our fiscal and legal
resources. We do not have a large advertising budget like the DoJ and FBI
have, and our publicity comes from citizen recognition of national
stewardship. I hope that you don’t see this as competition to your own great
work in the area, but we believe that we could both do better.

2. *Stop this investigation.* Given the vulnerable position you’ve placed
the DoJ in with these actions, you may be required to resign. I am very
sorry that this is the position you find yourself in, but there are many
great opportunities available for you in the private sector, and just
because you are not getting paid by the government does not mean that you
will not be able to help make the country a better, safer and healthier
place for us all to enjoy. We do volunteer work daily, and accomplish this
in our free time funded by our private sector work. We find this the most
kind healthy form of patriotism, as it not only allows one to help in areas
freely, but minimizes bureaucratic costs which we are all bear as brothers
and sisters in this great nation.

3. *Publicly accept assistance from Goatse Security.* While the smear
campaign your agency has launched against this group and me personally may
make this difficult, I’m sure that fully disclosing the rationale for it
would grant you and the DoJ forgiveness from the public, as well as from
myself. As always, we are more then happy to work with you hand in hand
towards a better country. If you are unable to do this for political
reasons, we understand, but we would not want you to dishonor your family
(probably the people who put you through law school) by making choices which
are wrong but popular. ATT needs to be held accountable for their insecure
infrastructure as a public utility and we must defend the rights of
consumers, over the rights of shareholders.

I pray for you Lee. I pray for you to see wisdom in your actions, and pray
for you to be guided towards righteousness. I advise you to discuss this
matter with your family, your friends, victims of crimes you have
prosecuted, and your teachers for they are the people who would have been
harmed had ATT been allowed to silently bury their negligent endangerment
of United States infrastructure.

Hugs and Courage To You,

Andrew

Re: [Full-disclosure] Open Letter to Lee Vartan, Assistant United States Attorney in regards to the Goatse Security iPad case.

2010-11-17 Thread Christian Sciberras

That's some lawyer you've got there Andrew.
When needs arise, everyone's abruptly religious and walking saints, never
mind what they did.







On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Andrew Auernheimer glutt...@gmail.comwrote:

 Howdy Lee,

 I was originally outraged by your recent acts towards persecuting me and my
 associates and extremely shaken up due to an unjust search which is based
 upon multiple violations of the Fourth amendment. I believe that this
 outrage, the emotional stress of being placed in solitary confinement for
 multiple days without cause and previous harassment by the government lead
 me to treat you less respectfully than I should, but as I was at the law
 library (where I usually go for ethical guidance) I started reading some
 Thomas Paine and experienced a revelation in how I should best proceed in
 dealing with you and your actions.

 * “He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy
 from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent
 that will reach to himself.*” - Thomas Paine, Dissertation on First
 Principles of Government

 I’m writing you to help clarify this situation we continue to find
 ourselves in. It appears that despite the obvious facts regarding the case
 you continue to attempt prosecution on me. While information security
 experts world wide (many of whom your department hire as expert witnesses),
 average citizens, law analysis groups and consumer affairs groups continue
 to support me; you seem to still be investigating me for some sort of
 criminal act.

 While I am sure that you are probably under a lot of pressure to produce
 something, given that you obtained a secret quasi-legal warrant, have a
 large amount of negative publicity on your office and name, and a growing
 number of people asking why you are doing this. I’m sure that this pressure
 is beginning to wear on your personal and professional relationships, and as
 I am and always have been a supporter of the United States Government, I’d
 like to offer some friendly advice before irreparable damages from your
 actions spread to the rest of the Department of Justice.

 There are a few options available to you at this point:

 1. *Continue holding Grand Jury sessions and force an indictment.* I can
 in no way advise this as it will cause harm to your professional reputation,
 and force the Department of Justice towards a path of manufacturing
 evidence. Social responsibility has always been at the core of everything we
 do at Goatse Security, and this will be extraordinarily obvious at a trial.
 Goatse has done large amounts of documented work in the areas of fighting
 havens for pedophiles worldwide, protecting US infrastructure, and keeping
 US citizens safe from Russian and Chinese organized crime. The DoJ has also
 done this, and quite well at times, but we should work together for a common
 goal, instead of fighting each other, and wasting our fiscal and legal
 resources. We do not have a large advertising budget like the DoJ and FBI
 have, and our publicity comes from citizen recognition of national
 stewardship. I hope that you don’t see this as competition to your own great
 work in the area, but we believe that we could both do better.

 2. *Stop this investigation.* Given the vulnerable position you’ve placed
 the DoJ in with these actions, you may be required to resign. I am very
 sorry that this is the position you find yourself in, but there are many
 great opportunities available for you in the private sector, and just
 because you are not getting paid by the government does not mean that you
 will not be able to help make the country a better, safer and healthier
 place for us all to enjoy. We do volunteer work daily, and accomplish this
 in our free time funded by our private sector work. We find this the most
 kind healthy form of patriotism, as it not only allows one to help in areas
 freely, but minimizes bureaucratic costs which we are all bear as brothers
 and sisters in this great nation.

 3. *Publicly accept assistance from Goatse Security.* While the smear
 campaign your agency has launched against this group and me personally may
 make this difficult, I’m sure that fully disclosing the rationale for it
 would grant you and the DoJ forgiveness from the public, as well as from
 myself. As always, we are more then happy to work with you hand in hand
 towards a better country. If you are unable to do this for political
 reasons, we understand, but we would not want you to dishonor your family
 (probably the people who put you through law school) by making choices which
 are wrong but popular. ATT needs to be held accountable for their insecure
 infrastructure as a public utility and we must defend the rights of
 consumers, over the rights of shareholders.

 I pray for you Lee. I pray for you to see wisdom in your actions, and pray
 for you to be guided towards righteousness. I advise you to discuss this
 matter with your family, your

Re: [Full-disclosure] Open Letter to Lee Vartan, Assistant United States Attorney in regards to the Goatse Security iPad case.

2010-11-17 Thread Troy Canasta

Clearly, the drugs got to you.

Your decision down the right isn't squabbling with the government, but whether 
you should accept a plea or convince a jury of your peers you're not the 
villain 
you are.

Like most criminals, you don't open up on merits of the case. I don't see any 
evidence of vigilante activism against pedophiles, infraguard or international 
organized crime. It sounds like textbook script kiddie aggrandizement.

This e-mail further enforces you are a thug and a nobody who hang out in a chat 
room.

You're not a vigilante organization, you're not a security clique,  you're an 
agitator. Get a job and start generating some legit GDP or go  to college.





From: Andrew Auernheimer glutt...@gmail.com
To: snip
Cc: snip
Sent: Wed, November 17, 2010 10:14:08 AM
Subject: [Full-disclosure] Open Letter to Lee Vartan, Assistant United States 
Attorney in regards to the Goatse Security iPad case.

Howdy Lee,

I was originally outraged by your recent acts towards persecuting me and my 
associates and extremely shaken up due to an unjust search which is based upon 
multiple violations of the Fourth amendment. I believe that this outrage, the 
emotional stress of being placed in solitary confinement for multiple days 
without cause and previous harassment by the government lead me to treat you 
less respectfully than I should, but as I was at the law library (where I 
usually go for ethical guidance) I started reading some Thomas Paine and 
experienced a revelation in how I should best proceed in dealing with you and 
your actions.

“He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from 
oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will 
reach to himself.” - Thomas Paine, Dissertation on First Principles of 
Government

I’m writing you to help clarify this situation we continue to find ourselves 
in. 
It appears that despite the obvious facts regarding the case you continue to 
attempt prosecution on me. While information security experts world wide (many 
of whom your department hire as expert witnesses), average citizens, law 
analysis groups and consumer affairs groups continue to support me; you seem to 
still be investigating me for some sort of criminal act.

While I am sure that you are probably under a lot of pressure to produce 
something, given that you obtained a secret quasi-legal warrant, have a large 
amount of negative publicity on your office and name, and a growing number of 
people asking why you are doing this. I’m sure that this pressure is beginning 
to wear on your personal and professional relationships, and as I am and always 
have been a supporter of the United States Government, I’d like to offer some 
friendly advice before irreparable damages from your actions spread to the rest 
of the Department of Justice.

There are a few options available to you at this point:

1. Continue holding Grand Jury sessions and force an indictment. I can in no 
way 
advise this as it will cause harm to your professional reputation, and force 
the 
Department of Justice towards a path of manufacturing evidence. Social 
responsibility has always been at the core of everything we do at Goatse 
Security, and this will be extraordinarily obvious at a trial. Goatse has done 
large amounts of documented work in the areas of fighting havens for pedophiles 
worldwide, protecting US infrastructure, and keeping US citizens safe from 
Russian and Chinese organized crime. The DoJ has also done this, and quite well 
at times, but we should work together for a common goal, instead of fighting 
each other, and wasting our fiscal and legal resources. We do not have a large 
advertising budget like the DoJ and FBI have, and our publicity comes from 
citizen recognition of national  stewardship. I hope that you don’t see this as 
competition to your own great work in the area, but we believe that we could 
both do better.

2. Stop this investigation. Given the vulnerable position you’ve placed the DoJ 
in with these actions, you may be required to resign. I am very sorry that this 
is the position you find yourself in, but there are many great opportunities 
available for you in the private sector, and just because you are not getting 
paid by the government does not mean that you will not be able to help make the 
country a better, safer and healthier place for us all to enjoy. We do 
volunteer 
work daily, and accomplish this in our free time funded by our private sector 
work. We find this the most kind healthy form of patriotism, as it not only 
allows one to help in areas freely, but minimizes bureaucratic costs which we 
are all bear as brothers and sisters in this great nation.

3. Publicly accept assistance from Goatse Security. While the smear campaign 
your agency has launched against this group and me personally may make this 
difficult, I’m sure that fully disclosing the rationale for it would grant you 
and the DoJ

Re: [Full-disclosure] Open Letter to Lee Vartan, Assistant United States Attorney in regards to the Goatse Security iPad case.

2010-11-17 Thread Troy Canasta

First off, sorry for my errors. Down the road. Hangs.

I'd like to add, your case is pretty insignificant and you're just another 
script kiddie.

DoJ handled tons real SNAFU's. It's not like you're this guy the public will 
sympathize with. You're a delinquent.

I hope you are in fact trolling, because you're not a free speech hero, you're 
a 
common criminal. You're not a hacker, but you're a hack. Get it!?

I eat thugs like you for breakfast. Enjoy prison! You will get all the GNAA 
(Minus the AA!) you can eat there! I hope they learn to understand your MO very 
deeply. Like Goatse. Gaping holes? You can get all the pen testing and 
hardening 
you need in jail!




From: Troy Canasta kingofpainfo...@ymail.com
To: full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk
Sent: Wed, November 17, 2010 9:49:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Open Letter to Lee Vartan, Assistant United 
States Attorney in regards to the Goatse Security iPad case.


Clearly, the drugs got to you.

Your decision down the right isn't squabbling with the government, but whether 
you should accept a plea or convince a jury of your peers you're not the 
villain 
you are.

Like most criminals, you don't open up on merits of the case. I don't see any 
evidence of vigilante activism against pedophiles, infraguard or international 
organized crime. It sounds like textbook script kiddie aggrandizement.

This e-mail further enforces you are a thug and a nobody who hang out in a chat 
room.

You're not a vigilante organization, you're not a security clique,  you're an 
agitator. Get a job and start generating some legit GDP or go  to college.





From: Andrew Auernheimer glutt...@gmail.com
To: snip
Cc: snip
Sent: Wed, November 17, 2010 10:14:08 AM
Subject: [Full-disclosure] Open Letter to Lee Vartan, Assistant United States 
Attorney in regards to the Goatse Security iPad case.

Howdy Lee,

I was originally outraged by your recent acts towards persecuting me and my 
associates and extremely shaken up due to an unjust search which is based upon 
multiple violations of the Fourth amendment. I believe that this outrage, the 
emotional stress of being placed in solitary confinement for multiple days 
without cause and previous harassment by the government lead me to treat you 
less respectfully than I should, but as I was at the law library (where I 
usually go for ethical guidance) I started reading some Thomas Paine and 
experienced a revelation in how I should best proceed in dealing with you and 
your actions.

“He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from 
oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will 
reach to himself.” - Thomas Paine, Dissertation on First Principles of 
Government

I’m writing you to help clarify this situation we continue to find ourselves 
in. 
It appears that despite the obvious facts regarding the case you continue to 
attempt prosecution on me. While information security experts world wide (many 
of whom your department hire as expert witnesses), average citizens, law 
analysis groups and consumer affairs groups continue to support me; you seem to 
still be investigating me for some sort of criminal act.

While I am sure that you are probably under a lot of pressure to produce 
something, given that you obtained a secret quasi-legal warrant, have a large 
amount of negative publicity on your office and name, and a growing number of 
people asking why you are doing this. I’m sure that this pressure is beginning 
to wear on your personal and professional relationships, and as I am and always 
have been a supporter of the United States Government, I’d like to offer some 
friendly advice before irreparable damages from your actions spread to the rest 
of the Department of Justice.

There are a few options available to you at this point:

1. Continue holding Grand Jury sessions and force an indictment. I can in no 
way 
advise this as it will cause harm to your professional reputation, and force 
the 
Department of Justice towards a path of manufacturing evidence. Social 
responsibility has always been at the core of everything we do at Goatse 
Security, and this will be extraordinarily obvious at a trial. Goatse has done 
large amounts of documented work in the areas of fighting havens for pedophiles 
worldwide, protecting US infrastructure, and keeping US citizens safe from 
Russian and Chinese organized crime. The DoJ has also done this, and quite well 
at times, but we should work together for a common goal, instead of fighting 
each other, and wasting our fiscal and legal resources. We do not have a large 
advertising budget like the DoJ and FBI have, and our publicity comes from 
citizen recognition of national  stewardship. I hope that you don’t see this as 
competition to your own great work in the area, but we believe that we could 
both do better.

2. Stop this investigation. Given the vulnerable

Re: [Full-disclosure] Open Letter to Lee Vartan, Assistant United States Attorney in regards to the Goatse Security iPad case.

2010-11-17 Thread Andrew Kirch

Weev,

I can quote people too!
Andrew, this one is for you:
It is always better to have no ideas than false ones; to believe
nothing, than to believe what is wrong. --Thomas Jefferson
And this one is for the members of the press unfortunate enough to be in
this thread:
The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who
reads nothing but newspapers. --Thomas Jefferson

I always was a Jefferson fan.

Cheers,


Andrew D Kirch

On 11/17/2010 5:14 AM, Andrew Auernheimer wrote:
 Howdy Lee,
 Andrew


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Re: [Full-disclosure] Open Letter to Lee Vartan, Assistant United States Attorney in regards to the Goatse Security iPad case.

Troy,

As with many of my critics, you insist on attempting to libel me and defame
my character (clearly having an objection to my political views) instead of
honestly debating the merits of my actions and the reality of my many
well-received research contributions. I take ad hominem attacks like yours
in stride with the civility and grace befitting of a Christian man, and urge
you to think more critically before you say more things that
will embarrass you in front of your peers.

You see no evidence of

Your implication that because you have not seen evidence of something it has
not happened is fallacious. Regardless, I will enlighten you with some
history of our anti-pedophile activity (with links to backdated posts
pedophile posts detailing our successes against their infrastructure and
payment systems, emails with full headers and evidence of ongoing pedophile
activity), some of which predates the iPad incident by years.  You haven't
seen any evidence of it because we, unlike many people, do not wear every
bit of public service we do on our sleeve. We live in the spirit of Matthew
6:6.



On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Troy Canasta kingofpainfo...@ymail.comwrote:

 Clearly, the drugs got to you.

 Your decision down the right isn't squabbling with the government, but
 whether you should accept a plea or convince a jury of your peers you're not
 the villain you are.

 Like most criminals, you don't open up on merits of the case. I don't see
 any evidence of vigilante activism against pedophiles, infraguard or
 international organized crime. It sounds like textbook script kiddie
 aggrandizement.

 This e-mail further enforces you are a thug and a nobody who hang out in a
 chat room.

 You're not a vigilante organization, you're not a security clique, you're
 an agitator. Get a job and start generating some legit GDP or go to college.

 --
 *From:* Andrew Auernheimer glutt...@gmail.com
 *To:* snip
 *Cc:* snip
 *Sent:* Wed, November 17, 2010 10:14:08 AM
 *Subject:* [Full-disclosure] Open Letter to Lee Vartan, Assistant United
 States Attorney in regards to the Goatse Security iPad case.

 Howdy Lee,

 I was originally outraged by your recent acts towards persecuting me and my
 associates and extremely shaken up due to an unjust search which is based
 upon multiple violations of the Fourth amendment. I believe that this
 outrage, the emotional stress of being placed in solitary confinement for
 multiple days without cause and previous harassment by the government lead
 me to treat you less respectfully than I should, but as I was at the law
 library (where I usually go for ethical guidance) I started reading some
 Thomas Paine and experienced a revelation in how I should best proceed in
 dealing with you and your actions.

 * “He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy
 from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent
 that will reach to himself.*” - Thomas Paine, Dissertation on First
 Principles of Government

 I’m writing you to help clarify this situation we continue to find
 ourselves in. It appears that despite the obvious facts regarding the case
 you continue to attempt prosecution on me. While information security
 experts world wide (many of whom your department hire as expert witnesses),
 average citizens, law analysis groups and consumer affairs groups continue
 to support me; you seem to still be investigating me for some sort of
 criminal act.

 While I am sure that you are probably under a lot of pressure to produce
 something, given that you obtained a secret quasi-legal warrant, have a
 large amount of negative publicity on your office and name, and a growing
 number of people asking why you are doing this. I’m sure that this pressure
 is beginning to wear on your personal and professional relationships, and as
 I am and always have been a supporter of the United States Government, I’d
 like to offer some friendly advice before irreparable damages from your
 actions spread to the rest of the Department of Justice.

 There are a few options available to you at this point:

 1. *Continue holding Grand Jury sessions and force an indictment.* I can
 in no way advise this as it will cause harm to your professional reputation,
 and force the Department of Justice towards a path of manufacturing
 evidence. Social responsibility has always been at the core of everything we
 do at Goatse Security, and this will be extraordinarily obvious at a trial.
 Goatse has done large amounts of documented work in the areas of fighting
 havens for pedophiles worldwide, protecting US infrastructure, and keeping
 US citizens safe from Russian and Chinese organized crime. The DoJ has also
 done this, and quite well at times, but we should work together for a common
 goal, instead of fighting each other, and wasting our fiscal and legal
 resources. We do not have a large advertising budget like the DoJ and FBI
 have, and our publicity

Re: [Full-disclosure] Open Letter to Lee Vartan, Assistant United States Attorney in regards to the Goatse Security iPad case.

2010-11-17 Thread R S

*
Speaking for only myself, I could care less about your personal / political
views. The reality is you are inconsequential to security because you are a
script kiddie. I had read articles about your various high profile
'trolling' incidents before, but until your asinine post here had never
bothered to research you. What I've read was nothing but humorous. At one
point you claim to hate bloggers, yet in a pre Web 2.0 world, you and your
Encyclopedia Dramatica generation script kiddies would have no notoriety at
all. Nobody would care about your bizarre high profile cries for attention,
and personally, I certainly don't.

You are a troll and a script kiddie. Your whiney rants have no place on a
mailing list for the security community. I'm sure the kids that support you
on various forums eat your crap up, but you will find little sympathy here.
You claim constantly to hunt pedophiles, thats great. Somehow I'm sure most
people in prison have done good in their lives as well as bad. Hopefully, if
my tax dollars do their job, you will have plenty of time in the near future
to contemplate all of this in jail.

Grow up kiddo. Personally I resent how you and your ilk cheapen this
profession, and applaud law enforcement for doing their job.



R



From*: Andrew Auernheimer gluttony () gmail com
*Date*: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 19:06:02 -0600
--

Troy,

As with many of my critics, you insist on attempting to libel me and defame
my character (clearly having an objection to my political views) instead of
honestly debating the merits of my actions and the reality of my many
well-received research contributions. I take ad hominem attacks like yours
in stride with the civility and grace befitting of a Christian man, and urge
you to think more critically before you say more things that
will embarrass you in front of your peers.

You see no evidence of

Your implication that because you have not seen evidence of something it has
not happened is fallacious. Regardless, I will enlighten you with some
history of our anti-pedophile activity (with links to backdated posts
pedophile posts detailing our successes against their infrastructure and
payment systems, emails with full headers and evidence of ongoing pedophile
activity), some of which predates the iPad incident by years.  You haven't
seen any evidence of it because we, unlike many people, do not wear every
bit of public service we do on our sleeve. We live in the spirit of Matthew
6:6.
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Re: [Full-disclosure] Open Letter to Lee Vartan, Assistant United States Attorney in regards to the Goatse Security iPad case.

In 2006 we began operations aganist Denise Paolucci, the self-appointed
Queen of the child pornographic fiction scene. Denise Paolucci had started
out small, as a producer of child pornographic fanfiction centered around
Harry Potter characters. Using her position as head of the abuse team at
Livejournal, she had appointed many producers of child pornographic fiction
as abuse volunteers. We started out by reporting clear content abuse
involving child sex to the Livejournal abuse team, but Denise's team would
bury it every time. We reported it to law enforcement repeatedly. Though
there have been multiple obscenity convictions obtained on the basis of
child pornographic literature, most law enforcement and federal prosecutors
do not want the challenge of handling a case with complex technical, speech
and cross-jurisdictional issues.

Inspired by a sermon I heard at a Mormon stake conference, I decided the
best solution was to whip up a group of highly moral mothers into a frenzy
and give them the contact information for most major ad networks. The idea
was that if blog hosters do not comply with takedown requests solely on the
basis of the presence of child pornography we would hit them where they
would be assured to respond: their advertisers.

A forceful insistence from management finally lead to Livejournal's change
in policy prohibiting the posting of child pornographic fiction and art.
Months later Denise was forced to resign. If you want to verify this chain
of events, check with ex-Six Apart employee and current SAY Media
stakeholder Mike Baehr-- a charming Jewish man who I connected with at the
company as he was one of the rare ones who really cared about the welfare of
children. I fed him the details of what I was doing step-by-step so he could
inform management and perhaps limit the financial damage Denise Paolucci's
negligence was causing them.

Denise Paolucci eventually runs off to form Dreamwidth, which, by our
estimates is the largest aggregation of child pornographic fiction content
and links to child pornographic fiction in the world.

Now we get to recent history, where I have externally verifiable evidence.
 As soon as I was elected the new leader of the GNAA in January, my only
major executive directive was to restart the war on child pornographic
fiction. I immediately had people make spreadsheets cataloguing child
pornographic fiction they found upon Denise Paolucci's service. Here's one I
personally made, and you should be able to verify the date of last editing
in the top right corner, 302 days ago in January:

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AkouGn11ZRNXdDhDUmg4QnI1Ym5VWnFQVUZJbzFTaXchl=en

We began to apply the same techniques to Denise Paolucci's new service,
Dreamwidth, cutting off their revenue stream from their credit card
processors:
http://dw-news.dreamwidth.org/16590.html
http://dw-news.dreamwidth.org/16338.html
http://dw-news.dreamwidth.org/17858.html

As well as developing a set of dossiers on their development and support
volunteers:
https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AUouGn11ZRNXZGhuNWoyd18xMmZnaHFta2Nuhl=en
and letting their employers, families and academic departments know exactly
what kind of things they're into.

Unfortunately, after this we got so busy doing innovative research into
Apple products that we forgot to keep this up. I think the GNAA will be back
to teaching these perverts a lesson any day now.

Beyond this, I can't tell you the number of chink and russki botnet CNCs
we've popped over the years. As soon as the federales give back our
illegally stolen machines, I'll give you all the evidence you want of it.
 We have years and years of good public service under our belts. Do you?

On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 7:06 PM, Andrew Auernheimer glutt...@gmail.comwrote:

 Troy,

 As with many of my critics, you insist on attempting to libel me and defame
 my character (clearly having an objection to my political views) instead of
 honestly debating the merits of my actions and the reality of my many
 well-received research contributions. I take ad hominem attacks like yours
 in stride with the civility and grace befitting of a Christian man, and urge
 you to think more critically before you say more things that
 will embarrass you in front of your peers.

 You see no evidence of

 Your implication that because you have not seen evidence of something it
 has not happened is fallacious. Regardless, I will enlighten you with some
 history of our anti-pedophile activity (with links to backdated posts
 pedophile posts detailing our successes against their infrastructure and
 payment systems, emails with full headers and evidence of ongoing pedophile
 activity), some of which predates the iPad incident by years.  You haven't
 seen any evidence of it because we, unlike many people, do not wear every
 bit of public service we do on our sleeve. We live in the spirit of Matthew
 6:6.



 On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Troy Canasta 
 kingofpainfo...@ymail.comwrote:

Re: [Full-disclosure] Open Letter to Lee Vartan, Assistant United States Attorney in regards to the Goatse Security iPad case.