[Full-disclosure] ProtectFly/RegisterFly - Whois information - Non-Disclosure legal??
Hi, I recently noticed some spam comments to my blog. Upon looking at the link they were linking back to it is an aggregation of various people RSS from their blogs. Upon examining the domains and their whois info they all appear to be registered with ProtectFly. Their whois information does not give out the contact details of the domain owner. Some random looking email address, that I guess might forward back to the real owner. Is this non-disclosure of the contact details legal? Am I missing some method to find the correct info? Example:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ whois nags-head-real-estate.info Domain ID:D13743171-LRMS Domain Name:NAGS-HEAD-REAL-ESTATE.INFO Created On:10-Jun-2006 02:42:27 UTC Last Updated On:22-Jun-2006 07:15:54 UTC Expiration Date:10-Jun-2007 02:42:27 UTC Sponsoring Registrar:RegisterFly.com, Inc. (R318-LRMS) Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED Status:CLIENT UPDATE PROHIBITED Status:TRANSFER PROHIBITED Registrant ID:tuxfIgCP2SraElSj Registrant Name:Whois Protection Service - ProtectFly.com Registrant Organization:RegisterFly.com - Ref-R# 37871268 Registrant Street1:404 Main Street Registrant Street2:4th Floor Registrant Street3: Registrant City:Boonton Registrant State/Province:NJ Registrant Postal Code:07005 Registrant Country:US Registrant Phone:+1.9737362545 Registrant Phone Ext.: Registrant FAX:+1.9737361355 Registrant FAX Ext.: Registrant Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Admin ID:tu0yrgMvIcEJ2aIH Admin Name:Whois Protection Service - ProtectFly.com Admin Organization:RegisterFly.com - Ref-A# 37871268 Admin Street1:404 Main Street Admin Street2:4th Floor Admin Street3: Admin City:Boonton Admin State/Province:NJ Admin Postal Code:07005 Admin Country:US Admin Phone:+1.9737362545 Admin Phone Ext.: Admin FAX:+1.9737361355 Admin FAX Ext.: Admin Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Billing ID:tuI0AzeEf97LKzMo Billing Name:Whois Protection Service - ProtectFly.com Billing Organization:RegisterFly.com - Ref-B# 37871268 Billing Street1:404 Main Street Billing Street2:4th Floor Billing Street3: Billing City:Boonton Billing State/Province:NJ Billing Postal Code:07005 Billing Country:US Billing Phone:+1.9737362545 Billing Phone Ext.: Billing FAX:+1.9737361355 Billing FAX Ext.: Billing Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tech ID:tuTOQTTrtOUs5GAS Tech Name:Whois Protection Service - ProtectFly.com Tech Organization:RegisterFly.com - Ref-T# 37871268 Tech Street1:404 Main Street Tech Street2:4th Floor Tech Street3: Tech City:Boonton Tech State/Province:NJ Tech Postal Code:07005 Tech Country:US Tech Phone:+1.9737362545 Tech Phone Ext.: Tech FAX:+1.9737361355 Tech FAX Ext.: Tech Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Name Server:DNS1.REGISTERFLY.COM Name Server:DNS2.REGISTERFLY.COM Cheers, DanB. ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] ProtectFly/RegisterFly - Whois information - Non-Disclosure legal??
Dear Dan B, Yes and no, this is going on for years now. You can try to report them to ICANN I found a special website where you can submit domain names with false information. As far as I know (!) this is being tolerated. -- http://secdev.zoller.lu Thierry Zoller Fingerprint : 5D84 BFDC CD36 A951 2C45 2E57 28B3 75DD 0AC6 F1C7 ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re[2]: [Full-disclosure] ProtectFly/RegisterFly - Whois information - Non-Disclosure legal??
TZ Yes and no, this is going on for years now. You can try to report them TZ to ICANN I found a special website where you can submit domain names Sorry not ICANN, I meant to say Internic : http://wdprs.internic.net/ -- http://secdev.zoller.lu Thierry Zoller Fingerprint : 5D84 BFDC CD36 A951 2C45 2E57 28B3 75DD 0AC6 F1C7 ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] ProtectFly/RegisterFly - Whois information - Non-Disclosure legal??
Yes having a private registration is legal at least in the US. Godaddy also does it. They charge extra for it. People do this so spam bots will not harvest their email on their domain registration. I personally don't think it is a good idea unless someone wants to do something wrong with the domain but that is just my opinion. If the people who own those domains are doing something wrong like spamming your blog I think you can contact the registrar and tell them. They should either give you the contact information or do something about the domain owner themselves. I know Godaddy would probably be helpful because they are a pretty good company but don't know about these companies since I don't deal with them myself. Regards, Nancy Kramer Webmaster http://www.americandreamcars.com Free Color Picture Ads for Collector Cars One of the Ten Best Places To Buy or Sell a Collector Car on the Web At 09:21 AM 8/4/2006, Dan B wrote: Hi, I recently noticed some spam comments to my blog. Upon looking at the link they were linking back to it is an aggregation of various people RSS from their blogs. Upon examining the domains and their whois info they all appear to be registered with ProtectFly. Their whois information does not give out the contact details of the domain owner. Some random looking email address, that I guess might forward back to the real owner. Is this non-disclosure of the contact details legal? Am I missing some method to find the correct info? Example:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ whois nags-head-real-estate.info Domain ID:D13743171-LRMS Domain Name:NAGS-HEAD-REAL-ESTATE.INFO Created On:10-Jun-2006 02:42:27 UTC Last Updated On:22-Jun-2006 07:15:54 UTC Expiration Date:10-Jun-2007 02:42:27 UTC Sponsoring Registrar:RegisterFly.com, Inc. (R318-LRMS) Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED Status:CLIENT UPDATE PROHIBITED Status:TRANSFER PROHIBITED Registrant ID:tuxfIgCP2SraElSj Registrant Name:Whois Protection Service - ProtectFly.com Registrant Organization:RegisterFly.com - Ref-R# 37871268 Registrant Street1:404 Main Street Registrant Street2:4th Floor Registrant Street3: Registrant City:Boonton Registrant State/Province:NJ Registrant Postal Code:07005 Registrant Country:US Registrant Phone:+1.9737362545 Registrant Phone Ext.: Registrant FAX:+1.9737361355 Registrant FAX Ext.: Registrant Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Admin ID:tu0yrgMvIcEJ2aIH Admin Name:Whois Protection Service - ProtectFly.com Admin Organization:RegisterFly.com - Ref-A# 37871268 Admin Street1:404 Main Street Admin Street2:4th Floor Admin Street3: Admin City:Boonton Admin State/Province:NJ Admin Postal Code:07005 Admin Country:US Admin Phone:+1.9737362545 Admin Phone Ext.: Admin FAX:+1.9737361355 Admin FAX Ext.: Admin Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Billing ID:tuI0AzeEf97LKzMo Billing Name:Whois Protection Service - ProtectFly.com Billing Organization:RegisterFly.com - Ref-B# 37871268 Billing Street1:404 Main Street Billing Street2:4th Floor Billing Street3: Billing City:Boonton Billing State/Province:NJ Billing Postal Code:07005 Billing Country:US Billing Phone:+1.9737362545 Billing Phone Ext.: Billing FAX:+1.9737361355 Billing FAX Ext.: Billing Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tech ID:tuTOQTTrtOUs5GAS Tech Name:Whois Protection Service - ProtectFly.com Tech Organization:RegisterFly.com - Ref-T# 37871268 Tech Street1:404 Main Street Tech Street2:4th Floor Tech Street3: Tech City:Boonton Tech State/Province:NJ Tech Postal Code:07005 Tech Country:US Tech Phone:+1.9737362545 Tech Phone Ext.: Tech FAX:+1.9737361355 Tech FAX Ext.: Tech Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Name Server:DNS1.REGISTERFLY.COM Name Server:DNS2.REGISTERFLY.COM Cheers, DanB. ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/405 - Release Date: 8/1/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/405 - Release Date: 8/1/2006 ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] ProtectFly/RegisterFly - Whois information - Non-Disclosure legal??
is not registration by proxy an accepatable practice by Registers ? If harvesting is being done and malious activites [spam and whatever] then just contact the register admin and let them know.. On 8/4/06, Nancy Kramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes having a private registration is legal at least in the US.Godaddyalso does it.They charge extra for it. People do this so spam bots will not harvest their email on their domainregistration.I personally don't think it is a good idea unless someonewants to do something wrong with the domain but that is just my opinion. If the people who own those domains are doing something wrong like spammingyour blog I think you can contact the registrar and tell them.They shouldeither give you the contact information or do something about the domain owner themselves.I know Godaddy would probably be helpful because theyare a pretty good company but don't know about these companies since Idon't deal with them myself.Regards,Nancy Kramer Webmaster http://www.americandreamcars.comFree Color Picture Ads for Collector CarsOne of the Ten Best Places To Buy or Sell a Collector Car on the Web At 09:21 AM 8/4/2006, Dan B wrote:Hi,I recently noticed some spam comments to my blog. Upon looking at thelink they were linking back to it is an aggregation of various peopleRSS from their blogs. Upon examining the domains and their whois info they all appear to beregistered with ProtectFly. Their whois information does not give outthe contact details of the domain owner. Some random looking email address, that I guess might forward back to the real owner.Is this non-disclosure of the contact details legal?Am I missing some method to find the correct info?Example:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ whois nags-head-real-estate.infoDomain ID:D13743171-LRMSDomain Name:NAGS-HEAD-REAL-ESTATE.INFO Created On:10-Jun-2006 02:42:27 UTCLast Updated On:22-Jun-2006 07:15:54 UTCExpiration Date:10-Jun-2007 02:42:27 UTCSponsoring Registrar:RegisterFly.com, Inc. (R318-LRMS)Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED Status:CLIENT UPDATE PROHIBITEDStatus:TRANSFER PROHIBITEDRegistrant ID:tuxfIgCP2SraElSjRegistrant Name:Whois Protection Service - ProtectFly.comRegistrant Organization:RegisterFly.com - Ref-R# 37871268Registrant Street1:404 Main StreetRegistrant Street2:4th FloorRegistrant Street3:Registrant City:BoontonRegistrant State/Province:NJRegistrant Postal Code:07005 Registrant Country:USRegistrant Phone:+1.9737362545Registrant Phone Ext.:Registrant FAX:+1.9737361355Registrant FAX Ext.:Registrant Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Admin ID:tu0yrgMvIcEJ2aIHAdmin Name:Whois Protection Service - ProtectFly.comAdmin Organization:RegisterFly.com - Ref-A# 37871268Admin Street1:404 Main Street Admin Street2:4th FloorAdmin Street3:Admin City:BoontonAdmin State/Province:NJAdmin Postal Code:07005Admin Country:USAdmin Phone:+1.9737362545Admin Phone Ext.: Admin FAX:+1.9737361355Admin FAX Ext.:Admin Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Billing ID:tuI0AzeEf97LKzMoBilling Name:Whois Protection Service - ProtectFly.comBilling Organization:RegisterFly.com - Ref-B# 37871268Billing Street1:404 Main StreetBilling Street2:4th FloorBilling Street3:Billing City:BoontonBilling State/Province:NJ Billing Postal Code:07005Billing Country:USBilling Phone:+1.9737362545Billing Phone Ext.:Billing FAX:+1.9737361355Billing FAX Ext.:Billing Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Tech ID:tuTOQTTrtOUs5GASTech Name:Whois Protection Service - ProtectFly.comTech Organization:RegisterFly.com - Ref-T# 37871268Tech Street1:404 Main Street Tech Street2:4th FloorTech Street3:Tech City:BoontonTech State/Province:NJTech Postal Code:07005Tech Country:USTech Phone:+1.9737362545Tech Phone Ext.:Tech FAX:+1.9737361355 Tech FAX Ext.:Tech Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Name Server:DNS1.REGISTERFLY.COMName Server: DNS2.REGISTERFLY.COMCheers,DanB.___Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.htmlHosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ --No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/405 - Release Date: 8/1/2006-- No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/405 - Release Date: 8/1/2006___Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.htmlHosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ -- http://peterdawson.typepad.comPeterDawson Home of ThoughtFlickr's This message is printed on Recycled Electrons. ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
