Re: [Full-disclosure] Re: Microsoft AntiSpyware attacks Norton AV?
On 2/13/06, Dave Korn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Joel R. Helgeson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Is anyone else seeing/experiencing this? > > > When it scanned each system it found a Trojan called PWS.Bancos.A > > (Password Stealer) - Level: Severe > > > When it quarantined the bug, it also rendered the Symantec Anti-Virus > > helpless. > > > Symantec Antivirus is corrupt and not usable. > Any security product for windows that depends on the windows registry and IE/windows components s much to a point small malfunction on those will seriously affect its normal working, eats lots of system resources, has a VERY BAD uninstaller, has big bulky updates deserves to be flushed out of your PC. hey, NAV qualifies on all these criterias. (o; -bipin ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
RE: [Full-disclosure] Re: Microsoft AntiSpyware attacks Norton AV?
I disagree. In our troubleshooting environment, we use 4 applications to remove spyware / malware / virus infections from customer systems - AVG, MS Antispyware, Ad-Aware PE and Spybot S&D. We've found that it takes 4+ applications plus some manual digging with Hijack This and RegscrubXP to get rid of the most serious infections. As far as Norton goes, totally and fully agree - get rid of it. Nick Hyatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy Kramer Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 7:48 PM To: Dave Korn; full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Re: Microsoft AntiSpyware attacks Norton AV? At 07:05 PM 2/12/2006, Dave Korn wrote: > No, let me correct that. You need to fully uninstall it then throw >it in the bin and get something better[*]. Oh, and don't let MS beta >software run on any of your machines. I concur. Been there done that got the viruses. If it weren't for AVG I would probably have had to format my hard drive. MS software doesn't work all that well in production versions. Don't put their beta's on any machine that is anything else but a test machine. Regards, Nancy Kramer Webmaster http://www.americandreamcars.com Free Color Picture Ads for Collector Cars One of the Ten Best Places To Buy or Sell a Collector Car on the Web -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.4/255 - Release Date: 2/9/2006 ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] Re: Microsoft AntiSpyware attacks Norton AV?
At 07:05 PM 2/12/2006, Dave Korn wrote: No, let me correct that. You need to fully uninstall it then throw it in the bin and get something better[*]. Oh, and don't let MS beta software run on any of your machines. I concur. Been there done that got the viruses. If it weren't for AVG I would probably have had to format my hard drive. MS software doesn't work all that well in production versions. Don't put their beta's on any machine that is anything else but a test machine. Regards, Nancy Kramer Webmaster http://www.americandreamcars.com Free Color Picture Ads for Collector Cars One of the Ten Best Places To Buy or Sell a Collector Car on the Web -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.4/255 - Release Date: 2/9/2006 ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
[Full-disclosure] Re: Microsoft AntiSpyware attacks Norton AV?
"Joel R. Helgeson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Is anyone else seeing/experiencing this? > When it scanned each system it found a Trojan called PWS.Bancos.A > (Password Stealer) - Level: Severe > When it quarantined the bug, it also rendered the Symantec Anti-Virus > helpless. > Symantec Antivirus is corrupt and not usable. >My take on what has happened: > > Microsoft very quickly released signature version 5807 to correct the > mistake. It's no longer speculation. http://blog.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2006/02/microsoft_antispyware_deleting_1.html See also slashdot. > Anyone else seeing this? It's just that, a false positive. Hits NAV pretty bad, you need to fully uninstall and reinstall it. No, let me correct that. You need to fully uninstall it then throw it in the bin and get something better[*]. Oh, and don't let MS beta software run on any of your machines. cheers, DaveK [*] - Personal opinion. -- Can't think of a witty .sigline today ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
