Re: [Full-disclosure] In Sony's Defense Over Virus Writers
I don't usually even say anything on this list, I just read for the most part, and I have to say n3td3v seems to be one of the singularly most annoying individuals I have ever seen anywhere on the internet. His messages are a waste of space in my inbox, and I'm sure other people feel the same way. The internet's become full of this sort of person, and as a result there are few decent sources of information and community anymore. Also, going back a bit to something he talked about before, what is all this talk about "evil hackers" anyway? That's like saying an artist is evil because the art they make upsets people. Some might argue with me there, which is fine, but think about it. Artists of all sorts get blamed all the time for things people do after witnessing/experiencing/whatever their artwork. Anyway, not to bring up the argument of whether or not hacking is art, just throwing in my own troll food. On Mon, 2005-11-14 at 03:33 -0200, Rodrigo Barbosa wrote: Okey, just 1 person will be enough for me but ... Is anyone happy with n3td3v being on this list ? Dude, get a life. ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
RE: [Full-disclosure] In Sony's Defense Over Virus Writers
> ideas for other good bug lists besides full disclosure? VulnWatch: vulnerability disclosure list http://www.vulnwatch.org/ This one is good. There is a discuss list also that you might want to subscribe... ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] In Sony's Defense Over Virus Writers
> Bugtraq. > See also http://seclists.org/ > And of course you can subscribe to Secunia's and eEye's bug lists, and others. > But as Fyodor says of Full-Disclosure: "Fresh vulnerabilities > sometimes hit this list many hours before they pass through the > Bugtraq moderation queue." Vulnwatch and Vulndiscuss (www.vulnwatch.org) is a good alternative too. Very low traffic, only posts that matter and "fresh vulns" hit there as quick even sometimes quicker than this list plus you don't have to sort through all the bullshit. ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] In Sony's Defense Over Virus Writers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Okey, just 1 person will be enough for me but ... Is anyone happy with n3td3v being on this list ? Dude, get a life. - -- Rodrigo Barbosa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Quid quid Latine dictum sit, altum viditur" "Be excellent to each other ..." - Bill & Ted (Wyld Stallyns) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDeCGlpdyWzQ5b5ckRAgsVAKCRqVGWMix2yKblX/MtaRHO+v1v1QCfbTTm JJdyWvVGvTjdFeT2mkfO/q8= =c1z2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] In Sony's Defense Over Virus Writers
n3td3v, You need to relax and let this go away. Making flippant statements like this: On 11/13/05, n3td3v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I will personally write a worm script based on "whistles" and give you > full credit for your FD comments. Yeah Symantec will love that.. more > anti virii sig's for them to push out to the consumer. > only causes you and your position harm. > Online media journalists can take note. The likes of Robert Lemos and > Joris Evers... yeah give CNET / Security Focus something to write > about. > > All I did was publish a paper on trends for "Hackers Today" and all > people have down is make me look small and stupid. That is hardly what they have done. They simply provided you a platform to make yourself look stupid. Your combative and off topic self promoting replies has done most of the hard work. Relax, ban the thread, sleep on it, and move on. Continuing with this is only going to make it much more difficult for people to listen to you later. > > On 11/14/05, whistles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Might i suggest anyone annoyed by the n3t4rd to sign up to his list > > and troll the hell out of it? It would only be fair. We could split > > the shifts up to spread out the work? I bet in no time n3t4rd would > > leave this list in peace (or hopefully just commit seppuku with a nic) > ___ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] In Sony's Defense Over Virus Writers
I will personally write a worm script based on "whistles" and give you full credit for your FD comments. Yeah Symantec will love that.. more anti virii sig's for them to push out to the consumer. Online media journalists can take note. The likes of Robert Lemos and Joris Evers... yeah give CNET / Security Focus something to write about. All I did was publish a paper on trends for "Hackers Today" and all people have down is make me look small and stupid. On 11/14/05, whistles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Might i suggest anyone annoyed by the n3t4rd to sign up to his list > and troll the hell out of it? It would only be fair. We could split > the shifts up to spread out the work? I bet in no time n3t4rd would > leave this list in peace (or hopefully just commit seppuku with a nic) ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] In Sony's Defense Over Virus Writers
On 11/13/05, Eliah Kagan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bugtraq. > > See also http://seclists.org/ > > And of course you can subscribe to Secunia's and eEye's bug lists, and others. > > But as Fyodor says of Full-Disclosure: "Fresh vulnerabilities > sometimes hit this list many hours before they pass through the > Bugtraq moderation queue." > > -Eliah > > On 11/13/05, Ed Hotchkiss wrote: > > any ideas for other good bug lists besides full disclosure? > > > > -edward > > > > ___ > > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > > Charter: > > http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > ___ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > Might i suggest anyone annoyed by the n3t4rd to sign up to his list and troll the hell out of it? It would only be fair. We could split the shifts up to spread out the work? I bet in no time n3t4rd would leave this list in peace (or hopefully just commit seppuku with a nic) ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] In Sony's Defense Over Virus Writers
Bugtraq. See also http://seclists.org/ And of course you can subscribe to Secunia's and eEye's bug lists, and others. But as Fyodor says of Full-Disclosure: "Fresh vulnerabilities sometimes hit this list many hours before they pass through the Bugtraq moderation queue." -Eliah On 11/13/05, Ed Hotchkiss wrote: > any ideas for other good bug lists besides full disclosure? > > -edward > > ___ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: > http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] In Sony's Defense Over Virus Writers
any ideas for other good bug lists besides full disclosure? -edward ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Re: [Full-disclosure] In Sony's Defense Over Virus Writers
pathetic... -sk http://www.groundzero-security.com - Original Message - From: "n3td3v" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 9:06 AM Subject: [Full-disclosure] In Sony's Defense Over Virus Writers > Artist: Goldie Lookin' Chain > > > Song: Sony Don't Hack People Hackers Do > > > Lyrics: > > > Come out with your hands on your head > Turn the rap music off and step away from the stereo > Put the hacking album down, > leave MC Hammer alone - turn it off > What? > > > Sony don't hack people, hackers do > Ask any politician and he'll tell you it's true > It's a fact, music makes you violent > Like Michael Jackson telling little Timmy to be silent > You don't believe me, here's my hype > Offer me the record and I'll show you the type > Of cyber criminal this rap shit is breeding > It's a fact that MC Hammer left me bleeding > Vanilla Ice made my mother say, "__" > If i stuck with 'UB40' then i woulda been in love > But I didn't, I got involved > Cypress fucking Hill taught me to make a fucking bomb > So I started, I bought another tape > The mob boys snapped me, my cock and balls ache > So remember script kids till the head doubles up > Sony don't hack people, it's just hackers > > > [Chorus] > Sony don't hack people, hackers do > Summon the police > Woop Woop Woop > Sony don't hack people, hackers do > Summon the police > Woop Woop Woop > > > Sony don't hack people, hackers do > I seen it in a documentary on BBC 2 > hacked to death outside Hyper Value > Guns blazing like Michael Caine in Zulu > Gunners statistics are sometimes misleading > The type of criminal hacking is breeding > Shot in the chest no one here stopped the bleeding > 2-4 to base over, are you receiving? > Remember rap tracks in '87 > scott the lots up in hip-hop heaven > Biggie and Tupac R.I.P. > Even Jam Master Jay's in the cemetery > > > [Chorus] > Sony don't hack people, hackers do > Summon the police > Woop Woop Woop > Sony don't hack people, hackers do > Summon the police > Woop Woop Woop > > > Sony don't hack people, hackers do > I'm a fucking hacker and I might hack you > As a hacker I'm teachin' you a lesson > AK-47 is a Smith and Weston > Just say no, just like Sammo > Bulletproof vest, two guns and ammo > Hip-Hop gangsta tripping > Even Eminem's into pistol whipping > Solid Crew told we're the ones > P. Diddy, J. Lo in a nightclub with a gun > Heard Snoop Dogg now wants to bust a cap > Sony don't hack people, it's just hackers > > > One, two - yo, face my shoe > My name's Mike Balls and I'm coming through > cyber crimes, stabbin' and burgalarization > Is on the rise all across the nation > The safety's off and the pistol's aimed > The Yardies and the Mafia always get blamed > Politician's ashamed, and they haven't got a clue > hacking is more deadly than fucking kung-fu > > > [Chorus] > Sony don't hack people, hackers do > Summon the police > Woop Woop Woop > Sony don't hack people, hackers do > Summon the police > Woop Woop Woop > > > Sony don't hack people, hackers do > > > >From Bristol Zoo to B&Q > > > I wanna hack, I wanna hack > Heard it in a song, now I'm into cyber crime > It's a sign of the times like Prince changing his name > You gotta have a shooter to be in the hack game > Like 'Michael Lown' about to stop > Sony don't hack people, it's just hacking > > [Chorus] > Sony don't hack people, hackers do > Summon the police > Woop Woop Woop > Sony don't hack people, hackers do > Summon the police > Woop Woop Woop > > - > Permlink: http://groups.google.com/group/n3td3v/browse_thread/thread/261289802dac56e0/0f9a8d3b653733bb#0f9a8d3b653733bb > ___ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
