Re: [Full-disclosure] I'm not the troll i've been trolled

2009-01-14 Thread Gavin Atkinson
On Mon, 2009-01-12 at 13:01 +, n3td3v wrote:
 I've been the victim of trolls they see me as a good target to pick on
 because I run the n3td3v intelligence group and i'm going to apply for
 mi5.

If you decide to apply for a position here you must limit those you
tell about your application to your immediate family (parents and/or
siblings) and/or your partner.
  - https://www.mi5careers.gov.uk/

Failed at the first hurdle.

G

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Re: [Full-disclosure] I'm not the troll i've been trolled

2009-01-12 Thread Biz Marqee
Hahahaha this post is the work of a CRAZY PERSON trying to keep up the
charade which is slowly crumbling around them.. could that profile fit you
any better. you are joking with this shit right?

- Intelligence agency intrigue  innuendo is a classic

i'll be applying for mi5 real soon
i'll hope one day to collaborate with mi5 to share intelligence on people,
hackers and the threats


- They usually refuse medications to control themselves, because it dulls
the essence of what they're trying to portray: someone mysterious,
withholding critical information, being the sole-source of knowledge that
might somehow change the world.

they want people to hate me because they don't understand me because lots
of what's going on cannot be talked about publicly
this is a secret underworld you've had some insight to and the way we
think, you will not understand us, you will never understand unless you are
part of it


- Also notice he hasn't written anything technical -- it's mostly outlandish
hypothesis with pointers to..not infosec..

I research open source intelligence such as mailing lists and websites,
television and radio. as well as monitoring folks in social situations
online and offline building up profile of folks.


I could go on and virtually connect the dots on everything in that profile
with things you have said in the last week alone, but its not worth any more
of my time.

ps: you are a nobody and we all know it, but at least now we know what the
fuck is up with you. go see a doctor or go back to hospital - that week
without you was nice.



On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at :01 AM, n3td3v xploita...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've been the victim of trolls they see me as a good target to pick on
 because I run the n3td3v intelligence group and i'm going to apply for
 mi5. your everyday people can't run security because their ideas are
 too ordinary and they come up with nothing new. don't call me a troll
 i've been a victim of trolling. groundzero security and ureleet
 are trolls, they seen someone with an indepth underworld life that i
 can talk about that others don't believe because the secret world of
 spooks is often unbelievable to ordinary folks and thats where people
 think i must be trolling. the fact is i've never trolled the n3td3v
 group is real and i'll be applying for mi5 real soon. there is no
 mental illness or anything else, thats just something thought up by
 trolls to get me to reply even more. they want people to hate me
 because they don't understand me because lots of what's going on
 cannot be talked about publicly, so they say why do you think you're a
 researcher, you don't research anything. trust me i'n reseraching a
 lot all the time. I research open source intelligence such as mailing
 lists and websites, television and radio. as well as monitoring folks
 in social situations online and offline building up profile of folks.
 you choose to troll me because you don't understand me and you
 probably never will, but make it be clear i'm the victim of trolling i
 haven't trolled. it's easy to spin me up because you know i will reply
 to defend myself and my replies you enjoy because they are different
 from joe the public replies, and once you've managed to spin me up
 enough, you can say n3td3v is the core problem on the list and
 everyone hates you and look at your replies talking about intelligence
 and mi5, maybe thats because i run an intelligence group thats why i'm
 interested in it and i'll hope one day to collaborate with mi5 to
 share intelligence on people, hackers and the threats. this is a
 secret underworld you've had some insight to and the way we think, you
 will not understand us, you will never understand unless you are part
 of it. have a good time on your mailing list that you and you alone
 partially destroyed by trolling someone who is not afraid of defending
 myself publicly and tell people what i do on my real name or under the
 group name.

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Re: [Full-disclosure] I'm not the troll i've been trolled

2009-01-12 Thread waveroad waveroad
It's pleasant to see you sink alone in your own shit you've created :)
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Re: [Full-disclosure] I'm not the troll i've been trolled

2009-01-12 Thread Col
N3td3v wrote ... i'll be applying for mi5 real soon ...

From MI5 site -

Who can I tell about my application?

This is where we really are a unique place to work. Owing to the
sensitivity of our work, discretion is vital. For this reason, you
must limit those you tell about your application to your immediate
family (parents and/or siblings) and/or your partner. We will ask you
who knows that you have applied during the recruitment process. With
the exception of the Director General, the identities of staff are not
disclosed publicly. Should your application be successful, you will be
given a full briefing on the reasons why it is important not to
disclose that you are a member of the Security Service.


Ref: https://www.mi5careers.gov.uk/faqs.aspx?subid=4

Yup failed.

But you knew that already didn't you... oh shi I've just been trolled.

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Re: [Full-disclosure] I'm not the troll i've been trolled

2009-01-12 Thread n3td3v
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Col col...@gmail.com wrote:
 N3td3v wrote ... i'll be applying for mi5 real soon ...

 From MI5 site -

 Who can I tell about my application?

 This is where we really are a unique place to work. Owing to the
 sensitivity of our work, discretion is vital. For this reason, you
 must limit those you tell about your application to your immediate
 family (parents and/or siblings) and/or your partner. We will ask you
 who knows that you have applied during the recruitment process. With
 the exception of the Director General, the identities of staff are not
 disclosed publicly. Should your application be successful, you will be
 given a full briefing on the reasons why it is important not to
 disclose that you are a member of the Security Service.


 Ref: https://www.mi5careers.gov.uk/faqs.aspx?subid=4

Lot's of intelligence people disclose to people who they are
especially with other intelligencers. I don't understand that wording
that they use because its not strictly necessary to hide your
identity. That statement will just be a general rule for people
applying, mi5 wouldn't be able to operate if none of them ever told
anyone who they are.

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Re: [Full-disclosure] I'm not the troll i've been trolled

2009-01-12 Thread - o z -
I will point out the faults in n3td3v's premises, read my last profile  
statement:

On Jan 12, 2009, at 5:01 AM, n3td3v wrote:

 I've been the victim of trolls they see me as a good target to pick  
 on
 because I run the n3td3v intelligence group and i'm going to apply for
 mi5.

Victim, martyr fantasies, with the 'intel group' being a self-serve  
mailing
lis that ANYONE can join (as I have under a different alias).  It  
doesn't exist
per se, it's all in his head.  It's about as useful as tits on a boy.

 your everyday people can't run security because their ideas are
 too ordinary and they come up with nothing new.

Typical -- exclusivity, it's all one big secret that a normal person  
cannot understand.

  they seen someone with an indepth underworld life that i
 can talk about that others don't believe because the secret world of
 spooks is often unbelievable to ordinary folks and thats where people
 think i must be trolling.

Secret world of spooks reference, the whole intel agency thing, Mystery!

 the fact is i've never trolled the n3td3v
 group is real and i'll be applying for mi5 real soon.

Real soon, yep, where have we heard this?

 there is no
 mental illness or anything else, thats just something thought up by
 trolls to get me to reply even more.

DENIAL, of course there hasn't been mental illness, nope, not at  
all...OK, maybe a little...

 I research open source intelligence such as mailing
 lists and websites, television and radio. as well as monitoring folks
 in social situations online and offline building up profile of folks.

Notice the subtle threat of 'researching and profiling other folks'?
Usually when threats occur, this is the attempt to 'one-up' their last
drama, just like I wrote about.  We're getting to him, so the monkey  
has to perform
a new and better trick.

  maybe thats because i run an intelligence group thats why i'm
 interested in it and i'll hope one day to collaborate with mi5 to
 share intelligence on people, hackers and the threats.

MI5 fixation, again!

 this is a
 secret underworld you've had some insight to and the way we think, you
 will not understand us, you will never understand unless you are part
 of it.

He has the secret key of the universe that mere mortals cannot  
understand.

OK, now watch what happens, it will be right out of the handbook.   
Some kind of
event will be precipitated.  If this is worked right, we can alter the  
behavior to our
liking.

-oz



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Re: [Full-disclosure] I'm not the troll i've been trolled

2009-01-12 Thread n3td3v
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 3:59 PM, - o z - o...@hotmail.com wrote:
 I will point out the faults in n3td3v's premises, read my last profile
 statement:

 On Jan 12, 2009, at 5:01 AM, n3td3v wrote:

 I've been the victim of trolls they see me as a good target to pick
 on
 because I run the n3td3v intelligence group and i'm going to apply for
 mi5.

 Victim, martyr fantasies, with the 'intel group' being a self-serve
 mailing
 lis that ANYONE can join (as I have under a different alias).  It
 doesn't exist
 per se, it's all in his head.  It's about as useful as tits on a boy.


It's the public open source intelligence group you joined

 your everyday people can't run security because their ideas are
 too ordinary and they come up with nothing new.

 Typical -- exclusivity, it's all one big secret that a normal person
 cannot understand.


You're a normal person and you cannot understand, point proven.

  they seen someone with an indepth underworld life that i
 can talk about that others don't believe because the secret world of
 spooks is often unbelievable to ordinary folks and thats where people
 think i must be trolling.

 Secret world of spooks reference, the whole intel agency thing, Mystery!


Only a mystery to you

 the fact is i've never trolled the n3td3v
 group is real and i'll be applying for mi5 real soon.

 Real soon, yep, where have we heard this?


I've been pondering on it for some years

 there is no
 mental illness or anything else, thats just something thought up by
 trolls to get me to reply even more.

 DENIAL, of course there hasn't been mental illness, nope, not at
 all...OK, maybe a little...


Let's rule out mental illness shall we

 I research open source intelligence such as mailing
 lists and websites, television and radio. as well as monitoring folks
 in social situations online and offline building up profile of folks.

 Notice the subtle threat of 'researching and profiling other folks'?
 Usually when threats occur, this is the attempt to 'one-up' their last
 drama, just like I wrote about.  We're getting to him, so the monkey
 has to perform
 a new and better trick.


Actually happening not a trick

  maybe thats because i run an intelligence group thats why i'm
 interested in it and i'll hope one day to collaborate with mi5 to
 share intelligence on people, hackers and the threats.

 MI5 fixation, again!


My future employer

 this is a
 secret underworld you've had some insight to and the way we think, you
 will not understand us, you will never understand unless you are part
 of it.

 He has the secret key of the universe that mere mortals cannot
 understand.


More garbage

 OK, now watch what happens, it will be right out of the handbook.
 Some kind of
 event will be precipitated.  If this is worked right, we can alter the
 behavior to our
 liking.

 -oz

More garbage

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Re: [Full-disclosure] I'm not the troll i've been trolled

2009-01-12 Thread BlackHawk
just a question.. didn't n3td3v said I'll stop writing on
full.disclosure or am I wrong?

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Re: [Full-disclosure] I'm not the troll i've been trolled

2009-01-12 Thread Ureleet
he did.  hes a well known liar.

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 12:50 PM, BlackHawk hawkgot...@gmail.com wrote:
 just a question.. didn't n3td3v said I'll stop writing on
 full.disclosure or am I wrong?

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Re: [Full-disclosure] I'm not the troll i've been trolled

2009-01-12 Thread n3td3v
And you're a well known troll who's info will be found out.

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 6:11 PM, Ureleet urel...@gmail.com wrote:
 he did.  hes a well known liar.

 On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 12:50 PM, BlackHawk hawkgot...@gmail.com wrote:
 just a question.. didn't n3td3v said I'll stop writing on
 full.disclosure or am I wrong?

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Re: [Full-disclosure] I'm not the troll i've been trolled

2009-01-12 Thread Ureleet
sure it will.  when u join mi5 right?  lol. way 2 fuck that up.

im a well known troll against 1 thing.  u.  nothing else.

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 1:27 PM, n3td3v xploita...@gmail.com wrote:
 And you're a well known troll who's info will be found out.

 On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 6:11 PM, Ureleet urel...@gmail.com wrote:
 he did.  hes a well known liar.

 On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 12:50 PM, BlackHawk hawkgot...@gmail.com wrote:
 just a question.. didn't n3td3v said I'll stop writing on
 full.disclosure or am I wrong?

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Re: [Full-disclosure] I'm not the troll i've been trolled

2009-01-12 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 00:59:50 +1100, Biz Marqee said:

 i'll hope one day to collaborate with mi5 to share intelligence on people,
 hackers and the threats

 I research open source intelligence such as mailing lists and websites,
 television and radio. as well as monitoring folks in social situations
 online and offline building up profile of folks.

I wonder what collaboration he can provide to MI5 if he's looking at the
open-source stuff that MI5 presumably *already* monitors if there's anything
worthwhile going on.


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Re: [Full-disclosure] I'm not the troll i've been trolled

2009-01-12 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 15:57:42 GMT, n3td3v said:

 Lot's of intelligence people disclose to people who they are
 especially with other intelligencers. I don't understand that wording
 that they use because its not strictly necessary to hide your
 identity. That statement will just be a general rule for people
 applying, mi5 wouldn't be able to operate if none of them ever told
 anyone who they are.

Sure.  But you missed an important point.

If you can't be trusted to keep your damned yap shut about the fact that
you applied for a job there because you think you understand the need
for secrecy better than the MI5 guys who have been doing it for 3 or 4
times as long as you've been *alive*, why should they trust you to keep
your yap shut when you get access to something actually sensitive?




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Re: [Full-disclosure] I'm not the troll i've been trolled

2009-01-12 Thread j-f sentier
You wasn't supposed to leave this list before MI5 throw your body in the sea
?



2009/1/12 andrew. wallace andrew.wall...@rocketmail.com

 On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Ureleet urel...@gmail.com wrote:
  im a well known troll against 1 thing.  u.  nothing else.

 Let us know if you ever feel angry about anything else apart from me
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Re: [Full-disclosure] I'm not the troll i've been trolled

2009-01-12 Thread andrew . wallace
Can we wrap this thread up now and get back to business about 'the threats'.

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:33 PM, j-f sentier j.sent...@gmail.com wrote:
 You wasn't supposed to leave this list before MI5 throw your body in the sea
 ?

 2009/1/12 andrew. wallace andrew.wall...@rocketmail.com

 On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Ureleet urel...@gmail.com wrote:
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Re: [Full-disclosure] I'm not the troll i've been trolled

2009-01-12 Thread Avraham Schneider
what 'threats'? e.hitler's? pfff...

On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 12:49 AM, andrew. wallace 
andrew.wall...@rocketmail.com wrote:

 Can we wrap this thread up now and get back to business about 'the
 threats'.

 On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:33 PM, j-f sentier j.sent...@gmail.com wrote:
  You wasn't supposed to leave this list before MI5 throw your body in the
 sea
  ?
 
  2009/1/12 andrew. wallace andrew.wall...@rocketmail.com
 
  On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Ureleet urel...@gmail.com wrote:
   im a well known troll against 1 thing.  u.  nothing else.
 
  Let us know if you ever feel angry about anything else apart from me
  now or in the future.
 
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Re: [Full-disclosure] I'm not the troll i've been trolled

2009-01-12 Thread j-f sentier
2009/1/12 andrew. wallace andrew.wall...@rocketmail.com

 Can we wrap this thread up now and get back to business about 'the
 threats'.


Nop.
How can we take one single word from you seriously, if you lies all the time
dude?
I'm expecting you to leave as you said twice, like many others here are also
expecting.


2009/1/12 andrew. wallace andrew.wall...@rocketmail.com

 Can we wrap this thread up now and get back to business about 'the
 threats'.

 On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:33 PM, j-f sentier j.sent...@gmail.com wrote:
  You wasn't supposed to leave this list before MI5 throw your body in the
 sea
  ?
 
  2009/1/12 andrew. wallace andrew.wall...@rocketmail.com
 
  On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Ureleet urel...@gmail.com wrote:
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Re: [Full-disclosure] I'm not the troll i've been trolled

2009-01-12 Thread Gomer Stackseg
G'day,

netdev / andrew: STFU, WILL THIS BS EVER END?

The only threat is the BS you keep shoving down innocent peoples throats.
Let it go, GTFO, and you go with it YOU FUCKING IDIOT.

Cheers and best wishes to everyone !

G. Stackseg

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 2:49 PM, andrew. wallace 
andrew.wall...@rocketmail.com wrote:

 Can we wrap this thread up now and get back to business about 'the
 threats'.

 On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:33 PM, j-f sentier j.sent...@gmail.com wrote:
  You wasn't supposed to leave this list before MI5 throw your body in the
 sea
  ?
 
  2009/1/12 andrew. wallace andrew.wall...@rocketmail.com
 
  On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Ureleet urel...@gmail.com wrote:
   im a well known troll against 1 thing.  u.  nothing else.
 
  Let us know if you ever feel angry about anything else apart from me
  now or in the future.
 
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Re: [Full-disclosure] I'm not the troll i've been trolled

2009-01-12 Thread andrew . wallace
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:59 PM, j-f sentier j.sent...@gmail.com wrote:
 2009/1/12 andrew. wallace andrew.wall...@rocketmail.com

 Can we wrap this thread up now and get back to business about 'the
 threats'.

 Nop.
 How can we take one single word from you seriously, if you lies all the time
 dude?
 I'm expecting you to leave as you said twice, like many others here are also
 expecting.


Swings and roundabouts. Like a dog chasing its own tail you persist.

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Re: [Full-disclosure] I'm not the troll i've been trolled

2009-01-12 Thread andrew . wallace
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 11:09 PM, Gomer Stackseg
faultintoler...@gmail.com wrote:
 G'day,

 netdev / andrew: STFU, WILL THIS BS EVER END?


I'm trying although the dedicated trolls keep the thread going.

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Re: [Full-disclosure] I'm not the troll i've been trolled

2009-01-12 Thread waveroad waveroad
If you dont leave your FD experience on this list will be much more
miserable than it actually is :)

A mentally stable person assume what he say.

As i told you many times: Get The Fuck Out Of Here.
2009/1/12 andrew. wallace andrew.wall...@rocketmail.com

 On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:59 PM, j-f sentier j.sent...@gmail.com wrote:
  2009/1/12 andrew. wallace andrew.wall...@rocketmail.com
 
  Can we wrap this thread up now and get back to business about 'the
  threats'.
 
  Nop.
  How can we take one single word from you seriously, if you lies all the
 time
  dude?
  I'm expecting you to leave as you said twice, like many others here are
 also
  expecting.
 

 Swings and roundabouts. Like a dog chasing its own tail you persist.

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Re: [Full-disclosure] I'm not the troll i've been trolled

2009-01-12 Thread andrew . wallace
Changing your email address to make it look like more people are
saying the same thing doesn't fool many people :)

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 11:34 PM, waveroad waveroad waver...@gmail.com wrote:
 If you dont leave your FD experience on this list will be much more
 miserable than it actually is :)

 A mentally stable person assume what he say.

 As i told you many times: Get The Fuck Out Of Here.

 2009/1/12 andrew. wallace andrew.wall...@rocketmail.com

 On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:59 PM, j-f sentier j.sent...@gmail.com wrote:
  2009/1/12 andrew. wallace andrew.wall...@rocketmail.com
 
  Can we wrap this thread up now and get back to business about 'the
  threats'.
 
  Nop.
  How can we take one single word from you seriously, if you lies all the
  time
  dude?
  I'm expecting you to leave as you said twice, like many others here are
  also
  expecting.
 

 Swings and roundabouts. Like a dog chasing its own tail you persist.

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Re: [Full-disclosure] I'm not the troll i've been trolled

2009-01-12 Thread waveroad waveroad
?!?
There's only one clown here, he's called andrew/n3td3v.

Go fuck yourself.


2009/1/12 andrew. wallace andrew.wall...@rocketmail.com

 Changing your email address to make it look like more people are
 saying the same thing doesn't fool many people :)

 On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 11:34 PM, waveroad waveroad waver...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  If you dont leave your FD experience on this list will be much more
  miserable than it actually is :)
 
  A mentally stable person assume what he say.
 
  As i told you many times: Get The Fuck Out Of Here.
 
  2009/1/12 andrew. wallace andrew.wall...@rocketmail.com
 
  On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:59 PM, j-f sentier j.sent...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   2009/1/12 andrew. wallace andrew.wall...@rocketmail.com
  
   Can we wrap this thread up now and get back to business about 'the
   threats'.
  
   Nop.
   How can we take one single word from you seriously, if you lies all
 the
   time
   dude?
   I'm expecting you to leave as you said twice, like many others here
 are
   also
   expecting.
  
 
  Swings and roundabouts. Like a dog chasing its own tail you persist.
 
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Re: [Full-disclosure] I'm not the troll i've been trolled

2009-01-12 Thread Biz Marqee
Any information regarding the behavior modification of n3td3v will be well
received, so please share any insight!


On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at :59 AM, - o z - o...@hotmail.com wrote:

 I will point out the faults in n3td3v's premises, read my last profile
 statement:

 On Jan 12, 2009, at :01 AM, n3td3v wrote:

  I've been the victim of trolls they see me as a good target to pick
  on
  because I run the n3td3v intelligence group and i'm going to apply for
  mi5.

 Victim, martyr fantasies, with the 'intel group' being a self-serve
 mailing
 lis that ANYONE can join (as I have under a different alias).  It
 doesn't exist
 per se, it's all in his head.  It's about as useful as tits on a boy.

  your everyday people can't run security because their ideas are
  too ordinary and they come up with nothing new.

 Typical -- exclusivity, it's all one big secret that a normal person
 cannot understand.

   they seen someone with an indepth underworld life that i
  can talk about that others don't believe because the secret world of
  spooks is often unbelievable to ordinary folks and thats where people
  think i must be trolling.

 Secret world of spooks reference, the whole intel agency thing, Mystery!

  the fact is i've never trolled the n3td3v
  group is real and i'll be applying for mi5 real soon.

 Real soon, yep, where have we heard this?

  there is no
  mental illness or anything else, thats just something thought up by
  trolls to get me to reply even more.

 DENIAL, of course there hasn't been mental illness, nope, not at
 all...OK, maybe a little...

  I research open source intelligence such as mailing
  lists and websites, television and radio. as well as monitoring folks
  in social situations online and offline building up profile of folks.

 Notice the subtle threat of 'researching and profiling other folks'?
 Usually when threats occur, this is the attempt to 'one-up' their last
 drama, just like I wrote about.  We're getting to him, so the monkey
 has to perform
 a new and better trick.

   maybe thats because i run an intelligence group thats why i'm
  interested in it and i'll hope one day to collaborate with mi5 to
  share intelligence on people, hackers and the threats.

 MI5 fixation, again!

  this is a
  secret underworld you've had some insight to and the way we think, you
  will not understand us, you will never understand unless you are part
  of it.

 He has the secret key of the universe that mere mortals cannot
 understand.

 OK, now watch what happens, it will be right out of the handbook.
 Some kind of
 event will be precipitated.  If this is worked right, we can alter the
 behavior to our
 liking.

 -oz


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