RE: [Full-Disclosure] invaded by morons

2003-07-18 Thread Justin Shin
according to my friend, mailman, the list is known as

[Full-Disclosure]

and not

[Personal Bashing]

Jesus, folks, just calm down and take it easy ... there is no reason to feel any less 
competent for using Windows OS's, the last time I checked you cannot play Battlefield 
1942 on a *nix box and I can use cygwin, Virtual Machines, Knoppix, etc. if I need to 
use *nix apps or POC script-kiddie tools.

Also, if you can contribute anything useful, then it is useful, isn't it? The C:\aux 
thingy may not be number one priority right now, nor XSS sploits, but there is no need 
to downplay someone's genuine effort to help.

OK

--Justin I know its July Shin

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Re: [Full-Disclosure] invaded by morons

2003-07-18 Thread gregh

 - Original Message - 
 From: Justin Shin 
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 Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 12:21 AM
 Subject: RE: [Full-Disclosure] invaded by morons


Jesus, folks, just calm down and take it easy ... there is no reason to feel any less 
competent for using Windows OS's, the last time I 

Just my 2 cents on this:

I PURPOSELY use Windows stuff. The main reason I do it is that I hope that whatever 
the next new weakness/trojan may be, I get to know about it before my customers. I 
have voluminous image backups so am not really worried. My customers all use Windows 
based machines. They do it because where I live in Australia is classified as country 
living and things filter out slowly through here. Most know that if I walk out and get 
hit by a car and kark it, they can get someone else in JUST LIKE ME and fix their 
problems. There are 2 major businesses here with *nix but I have businesses as 
customers who are larger than them who dont. Yes, I have been asked to handle their 
*nix setups, too and I declined. I decided that as all my income was coming from 
Windows using companies, then I would stick with Windows. Gee, if the large compaanies 
around here folded, I can still get income out of home users.

I dont feel bad for using Windows as a result. I would feel worse if I had to live off 
my wife because I refused to deal with Windows people.

Greg.
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[Full-Disclosure] Invaded by morons..

2003-07-17 Thread Dortmunder Lethman

Ever since Donnie Werner showed up all we see
is Windows crap, and stupid xss tricks.

We don't need 50 millions me-too posts about 
lame ie crashing.

We don't need 50 millions slash-dot lamers
flooding this list with crap.

We don't need 50 millions whiners complaining
about standart services that are in inherently
insekure which is an oxymoronic position since
windows is inherently insekure, and none of it
is news to anyone with .01% kluon.

For instance, no one even responded to *Hobbit*
points about secure practices, and I bet not
even 10% of you windows lamers even know who
he is.

All you windows lamers join Werner's 0-day
lamers list and the rest of us will be here,
agreed?

I won't respond to anyone who didn't use unix
to send mail to me.

Lethman returns, phear me.

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Re: [Full-Disclosure] Invaded by morons..

2003-07-17 Thread northern snowfall


I won't respond to anyone who didn't use unix
to send mail to me.
Um, is amoeba or plan9 ok? :P

Don

http://www.7f.no-ip.com/~north_

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Re: [Full-Disclosure] Invaded by morons..

2003-07-17 Thread morning_wood
 For instance, no one even responded to *Hobbit*
 points about secure practices, and I bet not
 even 10% of you windows lamers even know who
 he is.
umm, your quite obtuse, and his info didnt lead to questioning did it? It
was statement that looked quite sound an logical and outside my scope at
the moment by choice. and if you mean..
CIFS: Common Insecurities Fail Scrutiny by Hobbit,
the original SMB hacker's technical reference

then yes Im quite familliar with his work.

as for responding with *nix, sorry my son is home and i had to give him
back his ram for his 98se box, but would be more than happy to on monday,
wtdf do you just want to see everones mail daemon version or what, gimme a
break with the only thing i contribute are xss and other crap posts, sure i
havent released any root compromises or a breaking of anyones biggest OS
but at least i contribute with factual and relevant info, have you? And I
think most of you may be in for a big supprise sometime in a few weeks from
me im so incompitent.. sheesh

buh-bye,

w00d


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Re: [Full-Disclosure] Invaded by morons..

2003-07-17 Thread micah mcnelly
c:\aux\aux.  

owned!

/m

- Original Message - 
From: Dortmunder Lethman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 3:33 PM
Subject: [Full-Disclosure] Invaded by morons..


 
 Ever since Donnie Werner showed up all we see
 is Windows crap, and stupid xss tricks.
 
 We don't need 50 millions me-too posts about 
 lame ie crashing.
 
 We don't need 50 millions slash-dot lamers
 flooding this list with crap.
 
 We don't need 50 millions whiners complaining
 about standart services that are in inherently
 insekure which is an oxymoronic position since
 windows is inherently insekure, and none of it
 is news to anyone with .01% kluon.
 
 For instance, no one even responded to *Hobbit*
 points about secure practices, and I bet not
 even 10% of you windows lamers even know who
 he is.
 
 All you windows lamers join Werner's 0-day
 lamers list and the rest of us will be here,
 agreed?
 
 I won't respond to anyone who didn't use unix
 to send mail to me.
 
 Lethman returns, phear me.
 
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RE: [Full-Disclosure] Invaded by morons..

2003-07-17 Thread gml
Does Mac OS X count?

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snowfall
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 8:25 PM
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Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Invaded by morons..



I won't respond to anyone who didn't use unix
to send mail to me.

Um, is amoeba or plan9 ok? :P

Don

http://www.7f.no-ip.com/~north_


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Re: [Full-Disclosure] Invaded by morons..

2003-07-17 Thread DStark

- Original Message -
From: Dortmunder Lethman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 6:33 PM
Subject: [Full-Disclosure] Invaded by morons..

 Ever since Donnie Werner showed up all we see
 is Windows crap, and stupid xss tricks.

 We don't need 50 millions me-too posts about
 lame ie crashing.

 We don't need 50 millions slash-dot lamers
 flooding this list with crap.

 We don't need 50 millions whiners complaining
 about standart services that are in inherently
 insekure which is an oxymoronic position since
 windows is inherently insekure, and none of it
 is news to anyone with .01% kluon.


Not to mention the countless Millions that have taken the time to learn to
least write in proper english. some of whom use windows and can throw out
moronic insults with less grammer mistakes than you apparently. =P

And just incase this isn't some joke, nazi n1x leetism is on the same level
as an aoler that knows l33t sp34k.

Anyways, back to lurking and seeing what's on slashdot this hour.

- d.




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