Re: [Full-Disclosure] Windows hosts file changing.
- Original Message - From: "Kevin Gerry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 6:01 PM Subject: [Full-Disclosure] Windows hosts file changing. > Does -ANYBODY- know how it occurs? > > I've had this happen to a couple boxes of mine now... > > New one: > -- > 127.0.0.1 localhost > 66.40.16.131 livesexlist.com > 66.40.16.131 lanasbigboobs.com > 66.40.16.131 thumbnailpost.com > 66.40.16.131 adult-series.com > 66.40.16.131 www.livesexlist.com > 66.40.16.131 www.lanasbigboobs.com > 66.40.16.131 www.thumbnailpost.com > 66.40.16.131 www.adult-series.com > -- > > Any idea how the search site is replacing that? =/ It's starting to piss me > off =/ I had some custom information in there that's now overwritten (Not > backed up) > Not to answer your question directly but ask another - why don't you just set your hosts file to what you want and then just lock it so it cant ever be hijacked again? Easy to do even with Windows. Regards, Greg. ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
Re: [Full-Disclosure] Windows hosts file changing.
spyware... brought in by kazaa or something similar :) http://www.google.com.au/search?q=66.40.16.131+thumbnailpost.com&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&btnG=Google+Search&meta= check this - http://miataru.computing.net/security/wwwboard/forum/6491.html dont download illegal files :))) and install a virus scanner, or at least AdAware - Original Message - From: "Kevin Gerry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 6:01 PM Subject: [Full-Disclosure] Windows hosts file changing. > Does -ANYBODY- know how it occurs? > > I've had this happen to a couple boxes of mine now... > > New one: > -- > 127.0.0.1 localhost > 66.40.16.131 livesexlist.com > 66.40.16.131 lanasbigboobs.com > 66.40.16.131 thumbnailpost.com > 66.40.16.131 adult-series.com > 66.40.16.131 www.livesexlist.com > 66.40.16.131 www.lanasbigboobs.com > 66.40.16.131 www.thumbnailpost.com > 66.40.16.131 www.adult-series.com > -- > > Any idea how the search site is replacing that? =/ It's starting to piss me > off =/ I had some custom information in there that's now overwritten (Not > backed up) > > Thanks =/ > > ___ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html > > ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
RE: [Full-Disclosure] Windows hosts file changing.
(Sending from the right email addy now) Anyhow... I just didn't expect it? And... What the HECK is with these bounces? -_- Can't people subscribe to FD on email accounts that aren't secured to hell? Gets quite annoying. =/ (Bounce message I just got:) Your mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]; was filtered because of the potential spam or virus keyword [boobs] please contact the user by fax or telephone thank you. For this email filter system and other powerful software visit http://software.high-pow-er.com Meh. Doesn't even give me the person it's happening on. Nice software! > -Original Message- > From: gregh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 2:44 AM > To: Kevin Gerry; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Windows hosts file changing. > > > - Original Message - > From: "Kevin Gerry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 6:01 PM > Subject: [Full-Disclosure] Windows hosts file changing. > > > > Does -ANYBODY- know how it occurs? > > > > I've had this happen to a couple boxes of mine now... > > > > New one: > > -- > > 127.0.0.1 localhost > > 66.40.16.131 livesexlist.com > > 66.40.16.131 lanasbigboobs.com > > 66.40.16.131 thumbnailpost.com > > 66.40.16.131 adult-series.com > > 66.40.16.131 www.livesexlist.com > > 66.40.16.131 www.lanasbigboobs.com > > 66.40.16.131 www.thumbnailpost.com > > 66.40.16.131 www.adult-series.com > > -- > > > > Any idea how the search site is replacing that? =/ It's starting to piss > me > > off =/ I had some custom information in there that's now overwritten > (Not > > backed up) > > > > > Not to answer your question directly but ask another - why don't you just > set your hosts file to what you want and then just lock it so it cant ever > be hijacked again? Easy to do even with Windows. > > Regards, Greg. ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
RE: [Full-Disclosure] Windows hosts file changing.
Hate to say... But no filesharing software is installed on this computer. And only legal software is installed. So... Nice try? =p Also, AdAware is installed. Along with an up to date virus scanner. Plus all email is scanned before it enters. (Up to date too). AdAware was run BEFORE the hosts file changed. Without any spyware found. And -AFTER- it was changed. Without any mention of any spyware (It was updated both times) So... Hrm? =/ > -Original Message- > From: V.O. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 3:06 AM > To: Kevin Gerry; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Windows hosts file changing. > > spyware... brought in by kazaa or something similar :) > > http://www.google.com.au/search?q=66.40.16.131+thumbnailpost.com&ie=UTF- > 8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&btnG=Google+Search&meta= > > check this - > http://miataru.computing.net/security/wwwboard/forum/6491.html > > dont download illegal files :))) > and install a virus scanner, or at least AdAware > > - Original Message - > From: "Kevin Gerry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 6:01 PM > Subject: [Full-Disclosure] Windows hosts file changing. > > > > Does -ANYBODY- know how it occurs? > > > > I've had this happen to a couple boxes of mine now... > > > > New one: > > -- > > 127.0.0.1 localhost > > 66.40.16.131 livesexlist.com > > 66.40.16.131 lanasbigboobs.com > > 66.40.16.131 thumbnailpost.com > > 66.40.16.131 adult-series.com > > 66.40.16.131 www.livesexlist.com > > 66.40.16.131 www.lanasbigboobs.com > > 66.40.16.131 www.thumbnailpost.com > > 66.40.16.131 www.adult-series.com > > -- > > > > Any idea how the search site is replacing that? =/ It's starting to piss > me > > off =/ I had some custom information in there that's now overwritten > (Not > > backed up) > > > > Thanks =/ > > > > ___ > > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > > Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html > > > > ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
RE: [Full-Disclosure] Windows hosts file changing.
Install and run Spybot Search & Destroy from http://security.kolla.de/. It's the best remover I've seen, with a much broader scope than ad-aware. Spybot locks your hosts file if you ask. ;) :) Bjørnar -How smart can the user be if he trusts Windows? ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
Re: [Full-Disclosure] Windows hosts file changing.
It's some homegrown filter set up by one Evanchik, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] High Power Marketing LLC 37 Ranson street stamford, ct 06902 US 2035709385 on both of his domains - alanpickel.com and high-pow-er.com Dont tell me you cannot use whois :) Received: from LAW-MAIN.AlanPickel.com (mail.high-pow-er.com [205.179.82.194]) by mail1.tpgi.com.au (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9MAUX017421 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:30:34 +1000 Received: from sir ([192.168.2.103]) by LAW-MAIN.AlanPickel.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0); Wed, 22 Oct 2003 06:36:35 -0400 From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Mail undeliverable and filtered - Original Message - From: "Poof" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 7:47 PM Subject: RE: [Full-Disclosure] Windows hosts file changing. > (Sending from the right email addy now) > > Anyhow... I just didn't expect it? > > And... What the HECK is with these bounces? -_- Can't people subscribe to FD > on email accounts that aren't secured to hell? Gets quite annoying. =/ > > (Bounce message I just got:) > Your mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]; was filtered because of the > potential spam or virus keyword [boobs] > > please contact the user by fax or telephone thank you. > > For this email filter system and other powerful software visit > http://software.high-pow-er.com > > Meh. Doesn't even give me the person it's happening on. Nice software! > > > -Original Message- > > From: gregh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 2:44 AM > > To: Kevin Gerry; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Windows hosts file changing. > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Kevin Gerry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 6:01 PM > > Subject: [Full-Disclosure] Windows hosts file changing. > > > > > > > Does -ANYBODY- know how it occurs? > > > > > > I've had this happen to a couple boxes of mine now... > > > > > > New one: > > > -- > > > 127.0.0.1 localhost > > > 66.40.16.131 livesexlist.com > > > 66.40.16.131 lanasbigboobs.com > > > 66.40.16.131 thumbnailpost.com > > > 66.40.16.131 adult-series.com > > > 66.40.16.131 www.livesexlist.com > > > 66.40.16.131 www.lanasbigboobs.com > > > 66.40.16.131 www.thumbnailpost.com > > > 66.40.16.131 www.adult-series.com > > > -- > > > > > > Any idea how the search site is replacing that? =/ It's starting to piss > > me > > > off =/ I had some custom information in there that's now overwritten > > (Not > > > backed up) > > > > > > > > > Not to answer your question directly but ask another - why don't you just > > set your hosts file to what you want and then just lock it so it cant ever > > be hijacked again? Easy to do even with Windows. > > > > Regards, Greg. > > > ___ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html > > ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
Re: [Full-Disclosure] Windows hosts file changing.
- Original Message - From: "Kevin Gerry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 4:01 AM Subject: [Full-Disclosure] Windows hosts file changing. > Does -ANYBODY- know how it occurs? > > I've had this happen to a couple boxes of mine now... > > New one: > -- > 127.0.0.1 localhost > 66.40.16.131 livesexlist.com > 66.40.16.131 lanasbigboobs.com > 66.40.16.131 thumbnailpost.com Perhaps a variant of the QHosts virus which just exploits an IE vulnerability. Perhaps not even a "virus" per say. (It's kind of sketchy anyways to call Qhosts a virus.) Perhaps a user got an email and clicked on the URL and it sent them to a site that took advantage of their IE not being patched. http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/trojan.qhosts.html http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_100719.htm The MS03-040 patch addresses this type of attack on a system. -Josh -- Joshua Levitsky, MCSE, CISSP System Engineer Time Inc. Information Technology [5957 F27C 9C71 E9A7 274A 0447 C9B9 75A4 9B41 D4D1] ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
Re: [Full-Disclosure] Windows hosts file changing.
- Original Message - From: "Poof" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'V.O.'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 8:10 PM Subject: RE: [Full-Disclosure] Windows hosts file changing. > Hate to say... > > But no filesharing software is installed on this computer. And only legal > software is installed. > > So... Nice try? =p > > Also, AdAware is installed. Along with an up to date virus scanner. Plus all > email is scanned before it enters. (Up to date too). > > AdAware was run BEFORE the hosts file changed. Without any spyware found. > And -AFTER- it was changed. Without any mention of any spyware (It was > updated both times) > > So... Hrm? =/ > Ad-Aware is NOT, unfortunately, successful at getting rid of a lot of things thought it does identify almost all things. It is also updated more frequently than Spybot but the best bet is if you identify Registry entries with Adaware, run Spybot to get rid of them. Adaware WILL get rid of a lot of them but not all. Greg. ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
Re: [Full-Disclosure] Windows hosts file changing.
> > Does -ANYBODY- know how it occurs? > > > > I've had this happen to a couple boxes of mine now... > > > > New one: > > -- > > 127.0.0.1 localhost > > 66.40.16.131 livesexlist.com > > 66.40.16.131 lanasbigboobs.com > > 66.40.16.131 thumbnailpost.com > > 66.40.16.131 adult-series.com > > 66.40.16.131 www.livesexlist.com > > 66.40.16.131 www.lanasbigboobs.com > > 66.40.16.131 www.thumbnailpost.com > > 66.40.16.131 www.adult-series.com > > -- stop looking at pr0n? ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
Re: [Full-Disclosure] Windows hosts file changing.
Kind of sounds like this... http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_100719.htm Kevin Gerry wrote: Does -ANYBODY- know how it occurs? I've had this happen to a couple boxes of mine now... New one: -- 127.0.0.1 localhost 66.40.16.131livesexlist.com 66.40.16.131lanasbigboobs.com 66.40.16.131thumbnailpost.com 66.40.16.131adult-series.com 66.40.16.131www.livesexlist.com 66.40.16.131www.lanasbigboobs.com 66.40.16.131www.thumbnailpost.com 66.40.16.131www.adult-series.com -- Any idea how the search site is replacing that? =/ It's starting to piss me off =/ I had some custom information in there that's now overwritten (Not backed up) Thanks =/ ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html -- David Gianndrea Senior Network Engineer Comsquared Systems, Inc. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.comsquared.com ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
Re: [Full-Disclosure] Windows hosts file changing.
This sounds like qhosts. http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_100719.htm ---Mike At 04:01 AM 22/10/2003, Kevin Gerry wrote: Does -ANYBODY- know how it occurs? I've had this happen to a couple boxes of mine now... New one: -- 127.0.0.1 localhost 66.40.16.131livesexlist.com 66.40.16.131lanasbigboobs.com 66.40.16.131thumbnailpost.com 66.40.16.131adult-series.com 66.40.16.131www.livesexlist.com 66.40.16.131www.lanasbigboobs.com 66.40.16.131www.thumbnailpost.com 66.40.16.131www.adult-series.com -- Any idea how the search site is replacing that? =/ It's starting to piss me off =/ I had some custom information in there that's now overwritten (Not backed up) Thanks =/ ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
RE: [Full-Disclosure] Windows hosts file changing.
Why are you browsing the internet on an Administrator account? The HOSTS file is only editable by Admin accounts. Never never never do daily work from an account with full priveleges, that's what the Power Users' group is for. Admin accounts are for maintenance-only (installing and configuring s/w), not general work. Austin Ehlers > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Gerry > Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 03:01 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [Full-Disclosure] Windows hosts file changing. > > > Does -ANYBODY- know how it occurs? > > I've had this happen to a couple boxes of mine now... > > New one: > -- > 127.0.0.1 localhost > 66.40.16.131 livesexlist.com > 66.40.16.131 lanasbigboobs.com > 66.40.16.131 thumbnailpost.com > 66.40.16.131 adult-series.com > 66.40.16.131 www.livesexlist.com > 66.40.16.131 www.lanasbigboobs.com > 66.40.16.131 www.thumbnailpost.com > 66.40.16.131 www.adult-series.com > -- > > Any idea how the search site is replacing that? =/ It's starting > to piss me > off =/ I had some custom information in there that's now overwritten (Not > backed up) > > Thanks =/ > > ___ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
Re: [Full-Disclosure] Windows hosts file changing.
David Gianndrea wrote: Kind of sounds like this... http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_100719.htm Kevin Gerry wrote: Does -ANYBODY- know how it occurs? I've had this happen to a couple boxes of mine now... New one: -- 127.0.0.1localhost 66.40.16.131livesexlist.com 66.40.16.131lanasbigboobs.com 66.40.16.131thumbnailpost.com 66.40.16.131adult-series.com 66.40.16.131www.livesexlist.com 66.40.16.131www.lanasbigboobs.com 66.40.16.131www.thumbnailpost.com 66.40.16.131www.adult-series.com -- Any idea how the search site is replacing that? =/ It's starting to piss me off =/ I had some custom information in there that's now overwritten (Not backed up) Thanks =/ Actually, I don't think it sounds a damn thing like Qhosts. Qhosts modifies DHCP-issued DNS server settings in the registry, and creates a new HOSTS file and tweaks the registry to use that HOSTS file. It doesn't touch the original HOSTS file. This post exhibits no Qhosts behavior, and Qhosts doesn't exhibit any of this behavior. I think Daniel got it right - quit going to porn sites. Better yet, quit going to porn sites advertised in Spam. Also, to respond to another comment, the MS03-040 patch might *not* address this type of attack on a system. Internet Explorer fully patched with default settings *still* allows silent delivery and install of executables. POC was sent to this list weeks ago. Brian -- Brian Eckman Security Analyst OIT Security and Assurance University of Minnesota 612-626-7737 "There are 10 types of people in this world. Those who understand binary and those who don't." ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
Re: [Full-Disclosure] Windows hosts file changing.
On Wednesday 22 October 2003 4:01 am, Kevin Gerry wrote: > Does -ANYBODY- know how it occurs? This isn't Qhosts. It's a variant of the CoolWebSearch browser hijacker. Browsing the contact.htm page on the IP address given quickly reveals this site and CoolWebSearch are running the same scam under different names. The site's webmaster even has a link to the CWS removal tool and a "Don't blame me for trojaning you, blame Microsoft" message. More info on CoolWebSearch: http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/cwschronicles.html -Joe -- Joe Stewart, GCIH Senior Security Researcher LURHQ http://www.lurhq.com/ ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
Re: [Full-Disclosure] Windows hosts file changing.
I have seen qhosts act in strange ways. Qhosts does indeed edit the HOSTS file, sometimes will add those registry keys but not all. Sometimes it will add the reg keys but leave the HOSTS file alone. I've seen it replace the real HOSTS file, and I've also seen it add a new HOSTS file into the temp directory. Qhosts doesn't always respond predictably from what I've seen. Exibar - Original Message - From: "Brian Eckman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "David Gianndrea" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Kevin Gerry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Windows hosts file changing. > > > David Gianndrea wrote: > > Kind of sounds like this... > > > > http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_100719.htm > > > > > > Kevin Gerry wrote: > > > >> Does -ANYBODY- know how it occurs? > >> > >> I've had this happen to a couple boxes of mine now... > >> > >> New one: > >> -- > >> 127.0.0.1localhost > >> 66.40.16.131livesexlist.com > >> 66.40.16.131lanasbigboobs.com > >> 66.40.16.131thumbnailpost.com > >> 66.40.16.131adult-series.com > >> 66.40.16.131www.livesexlist.com > >> 66.40.16.131www.lanasbigboobs.com > >> 66.40.16.131www.thumbnailpost.com > >> 66.40.16.131www.adult-series.com > >> -- > >> > >> Any idea how the search site is replacing that? =/ It's starting to > >> piss me > >> off =/ I had some custom information in there that's now overwritten (Not > >> backed up) > >> > >> Thanks =/ > > > Actually, I don't think it sounds a damn thing like Qhosts. > > Qhosts modifies DHCP-issued DNS server settings in the registry, and > creates a new HOSTS file and tweaks the registry to use that HOSTS file. > It doesn't touch the original HOSTS file. > > This post exhibits no Qhosts behavior, and Qhosts doesn't exhibit any > of this behavior. I think Daniel got it right - quit going to porn > sites. Better yet, quit going to porn sites advertised in Spam. > > Also, to respond to another comment, the MS03-040 patch might *not* > address this type of attack on a system. Internet Explorer fully patched > with default settings *still* allows silent delivery and install of > executables. POC was sent to this list weeks ago. > > Brian > -- > Brian Eckman > Security Analyst > OIT Security and Assurance > University of Minnesota > 612-626-7737 > > "There are 10 types of people in this world. Those who > understand binary and those who don't." > > ___ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
RE: [Full-Disclosure] Windows hosts file changing.
Well, this isn't my specific computer. So, I have no real control at what they screw up on it. They just expect me to fix it. -_- ~ > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:full-disclosure- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Austin Ehlers > Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 6:54 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [Full-Disclosure] Windows hosts file changing. > > Why are you browsing the internet on an Administrator account? The HOSTS > file is only editable by Admin accounts. Never never never do daily work > from an account with full priveleges, that's what the Power Users' group > is > for. Admin accounts are for maintenance-only (installing and configuring > s/w), not general work. > > Austin Ehlers > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Gerry > > Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 03:01 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [Full-Disclosure] Windows hosts file changing. > > > > > > Does -ANYBODY- know how it occurs? > > > > I've had this happen to a couple boxes of mine now... > > > > New one: > > -- > > 127.0.0.1 localhost > > 66.40.16.131livesexlist.com > > 66.40.16.131lanasbigboobs.com > > 66.40.16.131thumbnailpost.com > > 66.40.16.131adult-series.com > > 66.40.16.131www.livesexlist.com > > 66.40.16.131www.lanasbigboobs.com > > 66.40.16.131www.thumbnailpost.com > > 66.40.16.131www.adult-series.com > > -- > > > > Any idea how the search site is replacing that? =/ It's starting > > to piss me > > off =/ I had some custom information in there that's now overwritten > (Not > > backed up) > > > > Thanks =/ > > > > ___ > > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > > Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html > > ___ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html