RE: [Full-Disclosure] XP vs 2K
Hi Joe (and list),
Sorry about that, I apologize, it wasn't my server
service. I checked my records, and here is what I got
from the event log:
***
DCOM got error This service cannot be started in Safe
Mode attempting to start the service EventSystem
with arguments in order to run the server:
{1BE1F766-5536-11D1-B726-00C04FB926AF}
For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp. - (event id
10005)
The following boot-start or system-start driver(s)
failed to load:
AmdK7
Fips
For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp. - (event id
7026)
***
It looks like first something with DCOM is upset about
being disabled, and then problems w/ my AMD processor.
Interesting how this Designed for Microsoft Windows
XP laptop works *well* only when you don't tweak the
system settings. Also, these crashes are pre-SP2, and
after being completely up-to-date with the windows
update site (consequently, it was upsetting to see
that MS did not allow my laptop to use windows update
after having the above services disabled). Anyways, I
am now using the same laptop to hunt-and-peck out this
note, running win2k, fully patched and updated, with
the same (similar) services disabled. I can never
remember having a similar crash with 2k. I did do a
little search online for the first error, and I didn't
find much, mostly just people posting the same
information into bbs's and forums. Gotta love windows
documentation ;) anyways, if anyone has seen something
similar before, it'd be interesting to hear about it,
or how they fixed it (if it's even fixable).
isk
--- joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What in the event log is telling you Server service
not running is causing
your BSDs? I run that way on 4 out 6 XP machines
here at home.
joe
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Re: [Full-Disclosure] XP vs 2K
Curt, as XP can have its bells whistles shut down to perform as 2K can, your preference must be security related. Would you be spcefic, or should I just read every advisory again? This perplexes me as M$ at least eventually patch XP while 2K is entering its next life. You don't have to be security oriented to not want XP in the workplace. There are plenty of other reasons. Install XP to someplace other than C: and the default directory name, delete boot.ini then try and recover using the Cd if you want to experience but one of them.. (you'll have to try the same thing with W2K to understand the full meaning of what I'm describing) Geo. ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
Re: [Full-Disclosure] XP vs 2K
- Original Message - From: Geo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 9:58 PM Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] XP vs 2K Curt, as XP can have its bells whistles shut down to perform as 2K can, your preference must be security related. Would you be spcefic, or should I just read every advisory again? This perplexes me as M$ at least eventually patch XP while 2K is entering its next life. You don't have to be security oriented to not want XP in the workplace. There are plenty of other reasons. Install XP to someplace other than C: and the default directory name, delete boot.ini then try and recover using the Cd if you want to experience but one of them.. (you'll have to try the same thing with W2K to understand the full meaning of what I'm describing) I'd like to know what it is you mean to be honest. Never had to do that with W2K before but wiped XP off C and reinstalled the same image of C as G before. Then had to run a repair install directly after that. Never a problem that wasn't fixed by altering card entries in registry or easier - updating to the next SP. Greg. ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
Re: [Full-Disclosure] XP vs 2K
Good Morning Everyone, Ha! I'd like to add my two cents to this discussion. with XP, I sometimes get the feeling like the OS (get this) doesn't trust me to config the system the way *I* want. For example, I decided one day to disable some services (server, messenger, etc) for security, the same ones recommended to disable on any win2k/xp machine exposed to the internet. So, all's going good and fine, until i reboot. Now, XP gives me (intermittently) a BSOD at startup! I check the system logs, and find that the crashes were from server service not being able to startup. very weird I always feel that when i'm using XP, it's like I'm given kiddie gloves to admin the operating system. Some things to administer the system are almost buried or take multiple steps to accomplish. Mind you, i've only worked with XP Home (XP Lite?), sometimes it's like i'm working with a copy of a Mac OS, pre OS9. Everything's about appearance; administration comes second. It also bothers me that the OS screams bloody murder when I try to make changes to it (see above), almost like it's saying Hey! What the hell do YOU think you're doing?!? Don't you know who wrote me? Don't you trust them to make a secure and great operating system?? Get yer damn hands out o' me!! Anyways. All i'm saying is that it bothers me that I can't have the same amount of freedom to administer changes and security on a machine running XP as I do on one running win2k. Stranger than this though, is that not everyone has had the some problems as I with XP. I can find many people who gush about the features and how much they like XP. Might specific hardware and software effect XP's performance and compatibility (see XP2, and http://isc.sans.org/xpsp2.php. The site may be down, a problem with their server (I think), so check back later, or see google's cache: http://tinyurl.com/5boty.) I don't know, it's probably just be me, XP might just have it out to ruin my day, who can say I hope i didn't offend anyone w/ this post, I'm just giving my story to this thread. I know many people will probably agree with my take on XP, and anyone who doesn't is just wrong. No, I'm joking, there's no way one person or one opinion can have the upper hand in this discussion, it's like any other OS debate: one's got this, the other doesn't; one's got super-secret loop-back encryption, the other doesn't; and it goes on cheers, isk --- Gregh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Geo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 9:58 PM Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] XP vs 2K Curt, as XP can have its bells whistles shut down to perform as 2K can, your preference must be security related. Would you be spcefic, or should I just read every advisory again? This perplexes me as M$ at least eventually patch XP while 2K is entering its next life. You don't have to be security oriented to not want XP in the workplace. There are plenty of other reasons. Install XP to someplace other than C: and the default directory name, delete boot.ini then try and recover using the Cd if you want to experience but one of them.. (you'll have to try the same thing with W2K to understand the full meaning of what I'm describing) I'd like to know what it is you mean to be honest. Never had to do that with W2K before but wiped XP off C and reinstalled the same image of C as G before. Then had to run a repair install directly after that. Never a problem that wasn't fixed by altering card entries in registry or easier - updating to the next SP. Greg. ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
RE: [Full-Disclosure] XP vs 2K
What in the event log is telling you Server service not running is causing your BSDs? I run that way on 4 out 6 XP machines here at home. joe -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 11:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] XP vs 2K this) doesn't trust me to config the system the way *I* want. For example, I decided one day to disable some services (server, messenger, etc) for security, the same ones recommended to disable on any win2k/xp machine exposed to the internet. So, all's going good and fine, until i reboot. Now, XP gives me (intermittently) a BSOD at startup! I check the system logs, and find that the crashes were from server service not being able to startup. very weird ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
