[funsec] "New device lets diners swipe credit cards themselves"
"Crooks who engage in identity theft and credit card fraud will find thin pickings at restaurants with the new CATS encrypted card reader developed by Bellatrix Systems of Bend. CATS is short for Card At Table Service." http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20101012/BIZ/710129926/-1/RSS03 CATS Introductory Package; http://www.bellatrix.com/cats/cats-introductory-program/default.aspx ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Re: [funsec] "New device lets diners swipe credit cards themselves"
If it's made in China, all bets are off. Pay cash. On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Shawn Merdinger wrote: > "Crooks who engage in identity theft and credit card fraud will find > thin pickings at restaurants with the new CATS encrypted card reader > developed by Bellatrix Systems of Bend. CATS is short for Card At > Table Service." > > http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20101012/BIZ/710129926/-1/RSS03 > > CATS Introductory Package; > > http://www.bellatrix.com/cats/cats-introductory-program/default.aspx > ___ > Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. > https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec > Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. > ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Re: [funsec] Free Public WiFi
The real reason is a lot less interesting, it seems. http://voices.washingtonpost.com/blog-post/2010/10/free_public_wifi_does_not_exis.html On Oct 17, 2010, at 12:29 PM, Paul Ferguson wrote: > On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Robert Slade wrote: > >> OK, maybe this is way old news for a lot of you, but I'd never come across >> it. I've always seen "Free Public Wifi," of course, especially in airports. >> (In fact, I'm sitting in YVR right now. Oddly, I *don't* see "Free Public >> Wifi" right now, although someone is advertising "Drew's 17inch laptop.") >> I've never tried to connect to it, of course: I *do* know the difference >> between "Unsecured wireless network" and "Unsecured computer-to-computer >> network." I've always vaguely wondered if there were some great conspiracy >> of air travelling blackhats who were trying to sniff credentials in airport >> lounges and gate areas. >> > > Probably, yes. :-) > > - ferg > > -- > "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson > Engineering Architecture for the Internet > fergdawgster(at)gmail.com > ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/ > > ___ > Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. > https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec > Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Re: [funsec] Free Public WiFi
I see it all the time, and always try and join it with my non-primary machine (if I am carrying it) just for fun. J On Oct 18, 2010, at 3:13 PM, Paul M. Moriarty wrote: > The real reason is a lot less interesting, it seems. > > http://voices.washingtonpost.com/blog-post/2010/10/free_public_wifi_does_not_exis.html > > On Oct 17, 2010, at 12:29 PM, Paul Ferguson wrote: > >> On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Robert Slade wrote: >> >>> OK, maybe this is way old news for a lot of you, but I'd never come across >>> it. I've always seen "Free Public Wifi," of course, especially in >>> airports. (In fact, I'm sitting in YVR right now. Oddly, I *don't* see >>> "Free Public Wifi" right now, although someone is advertising "Drew's >>> 17inch laptop.") I've never tried to connect to it, of course: I *do* know >>> the difference between "Unsecured wireless network" and "Unsecured >>> computer-to-computer network." I've always vaguely wondered if there were >>> some great conspiracy of air travelling blackhats who were trying to sniff >>> credentials in airport lounges and gate areas. >>> >> >> Probably, yes. :-) >> >> - ferg >> >> -- >> "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson >> Engineering Architecture for the Internet >> fergdawgster(at)gmail.com >> ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/ >> >> ___ >> Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. >> https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec >> Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. > > > ___ > Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. > https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec > Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. -- Joel Esler http://www.joelesler.net ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Re: [funsec] "New device lets diners swipe credit cards themselves"
You mean like the ones they've had in Europe for years? On Oct 18, 2010, at 7:24 AM, Shawn Merdinger wrote: > "Crooks who engage in identity theft and credit card fraud will find > thin pickings at restaurants with the new CATS encrypted card reader > developed by Bellatrix Systems of Bend. CATS is short for Card At > Table Service." > > http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20101012/BIZ/710129926/-1/RSS03 > > CATS Introductory Package; > > http://www.bellatrix.com/cats/cats-introductory-program/default.aspx > ___ > Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. > https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec > Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Re: [funsec] Free Public WiFi
Hi Robert, Simple Nomad discussed this issue at ShmooCon back in '06 in his awesome "Hacking the Friendly Skies" preso. http://www.nmrc.org/pub/advise/20060114.txt http://www.nmrc.org/pub/present/shmoocon-2006-sn.ppt http://mirror.fpux.com/HackerCons/Shmoocon_2006/videos/Nomad-Sky.mp4 Cheers, --scm On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 3:15 PM, Robert Slade wrote: > OK, maybe this is way old news for a lot of you, but I'd never come across > it. I've always seen "Free Public Wifi," of course, ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
