[funsec] Apple's faith-based security taking a hammering

2011-09-13 Thread Jeffrey Walton
http://news.techeye.net/security/apples-faith-based-security-taking-a-hammering

For the last year, hackers have been able to crash through Apple's
faith-based security and spend other user's cash, and Jobs' Mob has
been unable to stop them.

The first reports were in November 28, 2010, when a user moaned on an
Apple support forum that someone had spent more than $50 of his iTunes
Store credit on iPhone apps. His home address was replaced with an
address in Towson, Maryland... The list of complaints has gone to 700
posts with a hacker, or hackers able to spend iTunes gift card credit
without permission.

While Apple has been refunding some of its users, it has not given
cash back to others, but acknowledged no wrongdoing or iTunes
hacking However Apple will only refund money once, and customers
that are hit for a second time are being told to go forth and
multiply.
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Re: [funsec] Apple's faith-based security taking a hammering

2011-09-13 Thread Nick FitzGerald
Joel Esler wrote:

 Protip:  Use better passwords.

As you're clearly not a holder of the faith -- all fan boiz know Steve 
and Apple are just waaay too cool to even need passwords, their 
software is just so secure -- your advice is totally irrelevant...



Regards,

Nick FitzGerald


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Re: [funsec] Apple's faith-based security taking a hammering

2011-09-13 Thread Joel Esler
On Sep 13, 2011, at 6:42 PM, Nick FitzGerald wrote:

 Joel Esler wrote:
 
 Protip:  Use better passwords.
 
 As you're clearly not a holder of the faith -- all fan boiz know Steve 
 and Apple are just waaay too cool to even need passwords, their 
 software is just so secure -- your advice is totally irrelevant...

Oh, I'm a fanboy.  Anyone knows that.  I'm also a believer in the factor that 
most humans are stupid and set their passwords to password.

J
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Re: [funsec] Apple's faith-based security taking a hammering

2011-09-13 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:52:44 EDT, Joel Esler said:

 Oh, I'm a fanboy.  Anyone knows that.  I'm also a believer in the factor that
 most humans are stupid and set their passwords to password.

Am I the only one surprised that unintentional mis-spellings of password 
aren't higher
up the most frequently used password lists?



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Re: [funsec] Apple's faith-based security taking a hammering

2011-09-13 Thread Nick FitzGerald
Valdis to Joel Esler:

  Oh, I'm a fanboy.  Anyone knows that.  I'm also a believer in the factor 
  that
  most humans are stupid and set their passwords to password.
 
 Am I the only one surprised that unintentional mis-spellings of password 
 aren't higher
 up the most frequently used password lists?

Although I tend to have some sympathy with Joel's position, fortunately 
(?) most password creation software/interfaces is actually produced by 
people with a few more security clues than your typical Mac fan boy, 
and require the entry and re-entry of passwords during the creation 
process.  This presumably puts a significant crimp on the rate of 
creation of unintentionally mis-spelled passwords.



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Nick FitzGerald


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