Re: [funsec] Don't mess with Canadians carrying sticks ...
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 1:04 PM, wrote: > On Wed, 22 Oct 2014 21:36:16 -0400, Jeffrey Walton said: > >> Given that some politicians are more dangerous than terrorist, and we >> kill terrorist, then what should be done with politicians who commit >> crimes against the democracy and the citizens? > > They should either lose elections, or they should end up in a criminal > court and given a fair trial, no matter *how* big a scum they are. > > Saying that it's OK for random vigilantes to shoot at them means you've > basically given up the idea of the rule of law. I think there's a critical flaw in your logic. I think its the difference between theory and practice. The rule of law applies to little folks like you and I; and does not appear to apply to the oligarchy. Until the law applies to everyone equally, I'm more than happy to find satisfaction in the vigilantes. Too big to jail FTW... Battle evil with a different kind of evil... ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Re: [funsec] Don't mess with Canadians carrying sticks ...
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 01:04:00PM -0400, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: > Saying that it's OK for random vigilantes to shoot at them means you've > basically given up the idea of the rule of law. Agreed. I think this is apropos: Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. --- Friedrich Nietzsche ---rsk ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Re: [funsec] Don't mess with Canadians carrying sticks ...
On Wed, 22 Oct 2014 21:36:16 -0400, Jeffrey Walton said: > Given that some politicians are more dangerous than terrorist, and we > kill terrorist, then what should be done with politicians who commit > crimes against the democracy and the citizens? They should either lose elections, or they should end up in a criminal court and given a fair trial, no matter *how* big a scum they are. Saying that it's OK for random vigilantes to shoot at them means you've basically given up the idea of the rule of law. pgpdj2WiCxj_S.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
[funsec] Meanwhile, where's *our* safety video?
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Re: [funsec] Don't mess with Canadians carrying sticks ...
" If nothing else, remember that most of them have families that will grieve. Those politicians need to lose an election. Not a life." Can't agree more! Michael P. Blanchard Principal Security Engineer, CISSP, GCIH, CCSA-NGX, MCSE Cyber Security Services EMC ² Corporation 32 Coslin Drive Southboro, MA 01772 -Original Message- From: funsec [mailto:funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org] On Behalf Of valdis.kletni...@vt.edu Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 5:58 PM To: noloa...@gmail.com Cc: FunSec List; Rob Slade; infose...@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [funsec] Don't mess with Canadians carrying sticks ... On Wed, 22 Oct 2014 17:02:14 -0400, Jeffrey Walton said: > Politicians are usually corrupt to the core. They are more than happy > to take money and peddle influence. I'd much rather see a politician > killed, and I'm not sure I would bestow honors on someone who stopped > it... Would you bestow honors on the guys who stopped John Hinkly Jr before he managed to get another bullet into Reagan? How about if somebody had stopped Lee Harvey Oswald or the guys who shot Ghandi and Benazir Bhutto? Yes, many of them *are* corrupt, but jumping from there to "Every single one of them is so corrupt that they don't deserve an attempt to stop an assassination" shows something pretty sad about you. If nothing else, remember that most of them have families that will grieve. Those politicians need to lose an election. Not a life. ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.