[funsec] Driverless cars could be lethal - FBI

2014-07-19 Thread Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-28344219  

Seems to me that nobody in the FBI is reading the traffic fatality statistics 
obtained on cars driven by humans.

(OK, yes, the feebies seem to be concerned about automated cars that allow the 
passenger to shoot back at you.  But isn't that already happening anyway?)

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Re: [funsec] Driverless cars could be lethal - FBI

2014-07-19 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sat, 19 Jul 2014 15:44:45 -0700, "Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & 
Hannah" said:
> http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-28344219
>
> Seems to me that nobody in the FBI is reading the traffic fatality statistics
> obtained on cars driven by humans.
>
> (OK, yes, the feebies seem to be concerned about automated cars that allow the
> passenger to shoot back at you.  But isn't that already happening anyway?)

"And, under the heading "Multitasking", the FBI said that "bad actors will be
able to conduct tasks that require use of both hands or taking one's eyes off
the road which would be impossible today". That raised the prospect that
suspected criminals would be able to fire weapons at pursuing police cars."

Drivers are apparently already quite capable of applying lipstick, shaving, and
updating spreadsheets in rush-hour traffic, I'm not seeing any new threats
here?



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Re: [funsec] Driverless cars could be lethal - FBI

2014-07-19 Thread Stephanie Daugherty
Most likely, it's not a concern, as the fundamental programming of
driverless cars are to:
a) avoid collisions at all costs
b) follow all traffic laws perfectly

Given that the default action if anything unexpected happens is to stop and
safe the vehicle, using any of the automated cars currently in development
in this manner would end very poorly for someone trying to evade pursuit.



On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 6:44 PM, Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon &
Hannah  wrote:

> http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-28344219
>
> Seems to me that nobody in the FBI is reading the traffic fatality
> statistics
> obtained on cars driven by humans.
>
> (OK, yes, the feebies seem to be concerned about automated cars that allow
> the
> passenger to shoot back at you.  But isn't that already happening anyway?)
>
> ==  (quote inserted randomly by Pegasus Mailer)
> rsl...@vcn.bc.ca sl...@victoria.tc.ca rsl...@computercrime.org
> Like one who takes away a garment on a cold day, or like vinegar
> poured on soda, is one who sings songs to a heavy heart. Prov. 25:20
> victoria.tc.ca/techrev/rms.htm http://www.infosecbc.org/links
> http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.php/archives/author/p1/
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