[funsec] Free Public WiFi
OK, maybe this is way old news for a lot of you, but I'd never come across it. I've always seen "Free Public Wifi," of course, especially in airports. (In fact, I'm sitting in YVR right now. Oddly, I *don't* see "Free Public Wifi" right now, although someone is advertising "Drew's 17inch laptop.") I've never tried to connect to it, of course: I *do* know the difference between "Unsecured wireless network" and "Unsecured computer-to-computer network." I've always vaguely wondered if there were some great conspiracy of air travelling blackhats who were trying to sniff credentials in airport lounges and gate areas. However, I suppose this *must* be a pretty old story, since, now that I think of it, I haven't being seeing as much of "Free Public Wifi" these days. (And, I suppose, if I forget to turn off wireless some time in a hotel or classroom when I'm wired in, I'll be spreading YVR_PUBLIC ...) Story on NPR: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=130451369 Listen to NPR interview (I'm not keen on them calling it a virus, even if that gets somewhat cleared up): http://www.npr.org/player/v2/mediaPlayer.html?action=1&t=1&islist=false&id=130451369&m=130458685 transcript of interview: http://www.npr.org/templates/transcript/transcript.php?storyId=130451369 == rsl...@computercrime.org sl...@victoria.tc.ca rsl...@vcn.bc.ca "If you do buy a computer, don't turn it on." - Richards' 2nd Law = for back issues: [Base URL] site http://victoria.tc.ca/techrev/ CISSP refs: [Base URL]mnbksccd.htm Security Dict.: [Base URL]secgloss.htm Book reviews: [Base URL]mnbk.htm [Base URL]review.htm Partial/recent: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/techbooks/ Review mailing list: send mail to techbooks-subscr...@egroups.com http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.php/archives/author/p1/ http://blog.isc2.org/isc2_blog/slade/index.html http://twitter.com/rslade ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Re: [funsec] Free Public WiFi
On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Robert Slade wrote: > OK, maybe this is way old news for a lot of you, but I'd never come across > it. I've always seen "Free Public Wifi," of course, especially in airports. > (In fact, I'm sitting in YVR right now. Oddly, I *don't* see "Free Public > Wifi" right now, although someone is advertising "Drew's 17inch laptop.") > I've never tried to connect to it, of course: I *do* know the difference > between "Unsecured wireless network" and "Unsecured computer-to-computer > network." I've always vaguely wondered if there were some great conspiracy > of air travelling blackhats who were trying to sniff credentials in airport > lounges and gate areas. > Probably, yes. :-) - ferg -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawgster(at)gmail.com ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/ ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Re: [funsec] Free Public WiFi
The real reason is a lot less interesting, it seems. http://voices.washingtonpost.com/blog-post/2010/10/free_public_wifi_does_not_exis.html On Oct 17, 2010, at 12:29 PM, Paul Ferguson wrote: > On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Robert Slade wrote: > >> OK, maybe this is way old news for a lot of you, but I'd never come across >> it. I've always seen "Free Public Wifi," of course, especially in airports. >> (In fact, I'm sitting in YVR right now. Oddly, I *don't* see "Free Public >> Wifi" right now, although someone is advertising "Drew's 17inch laptop.") >> I've never tried to connect to it, of course: I *do* know the difference >> between "Unsecured wireless network" and "Unsecured computer-to-computer >> network." I've always vaguely wondered if there were some great conspiracy >> of air travelling blackhats who were trying to sniff credentials in airport >> lounges and gate areas. >> > > Probably, yes. :-) > > - ferg > > -- > "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson > Engineering Architecture for the Internet > fergdawgster(at)gmail.com > ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/ > > ___ > Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. > https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec > Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Re: [funsec] Free Public WiFi
I see it all the time, and always try and join it with my non-primary machine (if I am carrying it) just for fun. J On Oct 18, 2010, at 3:13 PM, Paul M. Moriarty wrote: > The real reason is a lot less interesting, it seems. > > http://voices.washingtonpost.com/blog-post/2010/10/free_public_wifi_does_not_exis.html > > On Oct 17, 2010, at 12:29 PM, Paul Ferguson wrote: > >> On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Robert Slade wrote: >> >>> OK, maybe this is way old news for a lot of you, but I'd never come across >>> it. I've always seen "Free Public Wifi," of course, especially in >>> airports. (In fact, I'm sitting in YVR right now. Oddly, I *don't* see >>> "Free Public Wifi" right now, although someone is advertising "Drew's >>> 17inch laptop.") I've never tried to connect to it, of course: I *do* know >>> the difference between "Unsecured wireless network" and "Unsecured >>> computer-to-computer network." I've always vaguely wondered if there were >>> some great conspiracy of air travelling blackhats who were trying to sniff >>> credentials in airport lounges and gate areas. >>> >> >> Probably, yes. :-) >> >> - ferg >> >> -- >> "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson >> Engineering Architecture for the Internet >> fergdawgster(at)gmail.com >> ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/ >> >> ___ >> Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. >> https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec >> Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. > > > ___ > Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. > https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec > Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. -- Joel Esler http://www.joelesler.net ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Re: [funsec] Free Public WiFi
Hi Robert, Simple Nomad discussed this issue at ShmooCon back in '06 in his awesome "Hacking the Friendly Skies" preso. http://www.nmrc.org/pub/advise/20060114.txt http://www.nmrc.org/pub/present/shmoocon-2006-sn.ppt http://mirror.fpux.com/HackerCons/Shmoocon_2006/videos/Nomad-Sky.mp4 Cheers, --scm On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 3:15 PM, Robert Slade wrote: > OK, maybe this is way old news for a lot of you, but I'd never come across > it. I've always seen "Free Public Wifi," of course, ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
