Re: FW Todays surprise recovery in the market

1997-10-28 Thread Arthur Cordell



Someone, perhaps on this list, uses this quote in their closing sig.
Seems appropriate for the times, the market, the economy.  

arthur cordell

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This is the common failing of all mankind: Never to anticipate the storm
when the sea is calm.

 - Niccolo Machiavelli, "The Prince" 





FW Todays surprise recovery in the market

1997-10-28 Thread Thomas Lunde


When the Dow opened this morning, Tues Oct 28, it looked like a losing day,
by noon the market was climbing and finished over 300 pts.

I was speculating, was it traders from other markets in the world who
picked the US and Canadian markets as the most probable to remain secure or
was it American Funds snapping up bargains?




Re: FW Todays surprise recovery in the market

1997-10-28 Thread Arthur Cordell



On Tue, 28 Oct 1997, Thomas Lunde wrote:

> When the Dow opened this morning, Tues Oct 28, it looked like a losing day,
> by noon the market was climbing and finished over 300 pts.
> 
> I was speculating, was it traders from other markets in the world who
> picked the US and Canadian markets as the most probable to remain secure or
> was it American Funds snapping up bargains?

Or was it firms buying back their own stocks.  Would be curious to
know where the intitial burst of buying came from, the burst that set off
the recovery.

arthur cordell




Re: FW Todays surprise recovery in the market

1997-10-28 Thread Tom Walker


Today's trading on the stock market means little (as does yesterday's for
that matter). The important thing is the fundamental events that have been
unfolding in Asia over the past four - five months, as Michel Chossodovsky
pointed out in his analysis sent out BEFORE the thurs-fri-mon crash. As the
analysts point out, we're probably in for a period of stock market
"volatility", which could even see a return to previous high levels. What is
extremely unlikely, however, is a return to the past couple of years'
pattern of record high after record high.

In other words, the thing to watch is NOT how far the market falls (or
doesn't fall) but whether the economy can continue to grow without the
impetus of the market bubble. History says no. A lot of people have already
pointed out over the past year or so that we are now in an era of
"deflation". Deflation coupled with rising stock prices can create a strong
illusion of prosperity. The illusion is gone. A "recovery" won't restore the
illusion (only a new illusion could restore the illusion).

>
>On Tue, 28 Oct 1997, Thomas Lunde wrote:
>
>> When the Dow opened this morning, Tues Oct 28, it looked like a losing day,
>> by noon the market was climbing and finished over 300 pts.
>> 
>> I was speculating, was it traders from other markets in the world who
>> picked the US and Canadian markets as the most probable to remain secure or
>> was it American Funds snapping up bargains?
>
>   Or was it firms buying back their own stocks.  Would be curious to
>know where the intitial burst of buying came from, the burst that set off
>the recovery.
>
>arthur cordell
>
>
>
>
>

Regards, 

Tom Walker
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In July, Soros Predicted Crash (fwd)

1997-10-28 Thread Michael Gurstein



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Subject: In July, Soros Predicted Crash

Tuesday, July 8 1997

SOROS EXPECTS WORLD STOCK MARKETS TO CRASH

 (Bonn, July 7): Billionaire US financier George Soros
fears that the world stock markets' current bull run will be
followed by a massive crash, he told the German weekly Focus.
 Soros said he feared "panic by inexperienced stock market
investors," the magazine reported.
 "Lots of  new investors have little experience of stock
markets. If these inexperienced investors are all seized by panic
and quit the market together, there will be a crash," he said.
 Soros also said he feared conflict between France and
Germany over the French government's demand that jobs be Europe's
number one priority, could delay the start of the single European
currency.
 "A conflict is on its way and it could lead to a delay in
the start of the euro," he said.
 Soros is renowned as having contributed to the withdrawal of
the pound sterling from the European monetary system in 1992 by
betting against the Bank of England.

Copyright (c) 1997 Indian Express Newspapers (Bombay) Ltd.




Hearings on the MAI (fwd)

1997-10-28 Thread Michael Gurstein



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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 14:40:54 -0800
From: Sid Shniad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Hearings on the MAI

The Toronto Star October 25, 1997

CANADIAN PARLIAMENT TO HOLD HEARINGS INTO THE
MULTILATERAL AGREEMENT ON INVESTMENT (MAI)

By Rosemary Speirs

OTTAWA - Trade Minister Sergio Marchi says critics have built "a
phantom" out of the closed-door negotiations in Paris for a treaty
governing the rules of foreign investment.

Bowing to demands for a public debate, Marchi has asked a parliamentary
committee to hold hearings on the Multilateral Agreement on Investment.
He hopes that

This week, a subcommittee of nine MPs, headed by Liberal Bob Speller,
agreed to make hearings on the agreement a priority. Marchi is asking for a
report by December, which he says will help guide Canadian negotiator Bill
Dymond during the final talks in Paris next spring.

Canadians have about two weeks to make their voices heard.

MAI will drastically alter our communities, our country and the world.

Corporations will be allowed to sue governments, (municipal, provincial
and federal) for loss of profits if governments enact safety,  environmental
or labour laws that limits a corporation's ability to  compete internationaly.
Governments cannot sue corporations.  The suit  would be heard behind
closed doors, outside of Canada.  The decsion   would be binding.  The
proceedings of the hearing would remain secret.  There would be no
appeal.

Municipal, provincial and federal governments would no longer be able  to
pass laws or to govern for fear of bankrupting lawsuits. Citizens  would no
longer govern their own communities.  Municipal, provincial,  state and
federal governments would be governed by transnational  coporations.

The Canadian government wants a report in 5 weeks!  The deal will be
signed in six months! We will be locked in for twenty years!

Canadians need to participate in this process.  Now!

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The Alliance for Public Accountability is helping us draft a  campaign to
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signoff

1997-10-28 Thread Skender Derti


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