High tech and recessions

1998-09-15 Thread Cordell, Arthur: DPP


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From: Gary Chapman
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Subject: L.A. Times column, 9/14/98
Date: Monday, September 14, 1998 10:11AM

Friends,

Below is my Los Angeles Times column for today, Monday, September 14, 1998.
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Monday, September 14, 1998

DIGITAL NATION

Is High Tech Recession-Proof? Don't Bet on It

By Gary Chapman

The wild gyrations of the stock market in recent weeks, combined with the
frightening turmoil in Russia, Asia and Latin America, have shaken many
people in the high-tech industry. Uncertainty in the world economy has led
some to question the widely shared view that high tech is immune to the
business cycles that periodically plunge us into recession.

There are still optimists, of course. Esther Dyson and Donna Hoffman, two
prominent technology gurus, told the magazine Industry Standard that the
Internet's economic growth is so strong that a recession won't be
significant for information technology firms or workers.

They and other industry analysts argue that whatever happens in the economy
as a whole, information technologies have "crossed over" from luxury goods
to necessities, and that the cost savings from electronic commerce and from
restructuring enterprises around networks will offset any losses from
depressed revenues.

But the recent jolts in the stock market should prompt some deeper thinking
about the character of the "new economy." It's too facile to say that
computers, software and the Internet have become necessities for
individuals and companies; the high-tech economy is far more complex than
that.

If we take a longer, bird's-eye view, we can see that we've created a
system with many strengths and an equal number of vulnerabilities. Some of
these strengths and weaknesses have the same sources.

What is the nature of the high-tech economy in the last few years of the
20th century? .

What we've witnessed over the last 20 to 25 years is the United States'
extraordinary ability to pile layer upon layer of "value-added services" on
top of a mature industrial and agricultural base. For the last
half-century, nearly all the productivity gains in the U.S. economy have
come from manufacturing and agriculture, which now employ small fractions
of the national work force -- 2% to 3% in agriculture, 15% to 16% in
manufacturing.

The wealth generated by these two "basic" sectors of the economy has
allowed us to develop and refine a service economy that now employs the
majority of wage earners.

We began with an initial layer of applying computers to business problems.
We soon added business-to-business solutions, then more general networking,
then Internet ubiquity.

Microsoft, Intel and the major hardware manufacturers still thrive at the
base of our pyramid of value-added services. But layered on top of this
base are countless companies that constantly push technology and the
character of value-added services, so that at the apex of this pyramid you
find cutting-edge companies exploring technologies and ideas that only a
handful of people have even heard of and whose mass-market appeal appears
distinctly distant. At this apex we find obscure but "cool" Internet
features, eccentric but potentially promising services, and intriguing
ideas that may or not succeed in the marketplace.

This has been the great strength of the American economy, which no other
country has even been able to approach, let alone compete with.

But this system also has significant vulnerabilities. Each layer of
value-added services is dependent on the health and growth of the one
beneath it. All of them are dependent on the perception of customers that
the value offered is indispensable. The further up one goes in this
pyramid, the more likely it is that the technologies and services are those
that consumers could forgo in hard times.

Viewed one way, during good times, this pyramid of "value-added" is as
strong as the stone pyramids of Egypt. Viewed another way, in an economic
downturn, it's a house of cards.

A related trend, again a feature of both strength and weakness, is
glo

Re: Marx required angelic robots

1998-09-15 Thread Durant

> 
> >for this deformity, and why do you think we would
> >willingly repeat the same mistakes?
> 
> Why do you think we won't repeat the same mistakes?  I am afraid that
> history is on my side Eva.
> 

actually, after a while there is enough experience to do it better,
that is what human progress is about. We are able to learn 
eventually. If you don't think so, you are really well placed at 
dieoff...

Eva

> Jay
> 
> 
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Re: FWD: Re: Marx required angelic robots

1998-09-15 Thread Durant

Well, I actually lived there.  I don't apologise for the system
as if you read carefully, it is not what I am proposing for the 
future.  However, the "Big brother" scene was greately exagurated,
it existed in the "personnal cult" era of Stalin and some
leftovers such as the romanian chap. From the 70s
for most places there was open contempt and semi-open
critique. But too little, too late.
It had insufficient starting conditions; democracy had no chance
to develop in a semi-feudal, illiterate, never ever even experiencing
any bougois democracy and the afternath of devastating wars,
it would have been extraordinary if it succeeded.
Which is not an argument against a future democratic socialism, 
developing from totally different starting conditions.

nobody ever gives me a decent argument to these points.
bloody frustrating.
Eva

> 
> Eva
> 
> Don't forget that the totalitaria-command and control society ran
> so smoothly that the only crime was NOT TO LOVE BIG BROTHER
> 
> Not loving big brother meant the social conditioning system had
> failed and therefore the unfortunate individual had to be
> continuously reeducated util they truly learned to LOVE BIG BROTHER
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
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Re: wholesystem (chaos?)economics

1998-09-15 Thread Steve Kurtz

Durant wrote:
> 
> I know of a non-standard interpretation of economics
> and it predicted the chaotic nature of capitalism some times
> in the past...
> What help would it be even if we were  able to completely
> map  the capitalist economy to a mathematics formulae?
> 
> Eva

please see: http://order.ph.utexas.edu/chaos/ 

Since prediction of open global systems is not possible to any meaningful
degree of accuracy, the "non-standard" prediction(if one agrees that it was
made)was nothing but a guess, without evidenced causal explanation.
Definitions are the bane of this list, in my opinion ("chaotic nature" of
an "ism").

The 'mapping' you suggest is also impossible for the same reason, so the
question of helpfulness is academic. 

Steve



Judge for Thyself Who is Right

1998-09-15 Thread Jay Hanson

From: Durant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>actually, after a while there is enough experience to do it better,
>that is what human progress is about. We are able to learn

Human "progress" is an illusion.

 Judge for Thyself Who is Right
   by Jay Hanson

Dostoevsky's parable is set in sixteenth-century Seville—at the height of
the Inquisition. On the day after a magnificent bonfire, in which nearly one
hundred heretics were burned alive, Jesus descends and is immediately
recognized. The cardinal—the Grand Inquisitor—has Him promptly arrested and
thrown in prison. That evening, the door of Jesus' cell opens and the old,
ascetic Inquisitor enters to confront Him. For a few minutes there is
silence, then the Inquisitor delivers the most profound and terrible attack
against Christianity.

The Inquisitor charges Jesus with betrayal of mankind, for deliberately
rejecting the only ways in which men might have been happy. This singular
moment occurred when "the wise and dread spirit, the spirit of
self-destruction and non-existence," tempted Jesus in the wilderness by
asking Him three questions.

First, the spirit asked Jesus to turn stones into bread. Jesus refused
because He wanted mankind free, and what would obedience be worth if it were
bought with bread? Thus, He denied men their deepest craving—to find someone
who would take away the awesome burden of freedom.

Then, the spirit asked Jesus to throw Himself from the pinnacle of the
temple, "for it is written: the angels shall hold Him up lest he fall".
Again Jesus refused, rejecting miracles because He wanted faith given
freely. But the Inquisitor explains that man cannot live without miracles,
for if he is deprived of them, he immediately creates new ones. Man is
weaker and baser by nature than Jesus thought. "By showing him so much
respect, Thou didst ... cease to feel for him "

Jesus' last temptation was to rule the world, to unite all mankind "in one
unanimous and harmonious ant-heap, for the craving for universal unity is
the third and last anguish of men" He refused once again, and thereby
rejected the only ways in which men might have been made happy.

The Inquisitor explains "We are not working with Thee but with him [the
spirit] We have taken the sword of Caesar, and in taking it, of course,
have rejected Thee and followed him. Oh, ages are yet to come of the
confusion of free thought, of their science and cannibalism [But] we
have corrected Thy work and have founded it upon miracle, mystery and
authority. And men rejoiced that they were again led like sheep, and that
the terrible gift that had brought them such suffering, was, at last, lifted
from their hearts And all will be happy, all the millions of creatures
except the hundred thousand who rule over them. For only we, who guard the
mystery, shall be unhappy Peacefully they will die, peacefully they will
expire in Thy name, and beyond the grave they will find nothing but death."

"And we alone shall feed them" the Inquisitor continues, "Oh, never,
never can they feed themselves without us! No science will give them bread
so long as they remain free. In the end they will lay their freedom at our
feet, and say to us, 'Make us your slaves, but feed us.'"

Jay