economic boom and simple living

1999-07-13 Thread Neunteufel Robert

First of all, thank you very much for your very interesting and helpful
comments.

Some additional thoughts / questions :

- I think that the economic boom is not only based on successful exports,
but must have its most important source in the local (=North American) very
high level of consumption.

- Nan Hildreth from the positive-futures list told me about a survey by Paul
Ray, who found that about 25% of the population are "Cultural Creatives" who
want to transform the society in the direction of more sustainibility,
simple living and democracy.
 http://www.coopamerica.org/Business/B44million.htm  and
http://www.ligthparty.com/Spirituality/Culture.html  ).
Are there other studies and is there some clear  practical  evidence, that
the number of the "Cultural Creatives" is really as high as 25% and that
their number is rising?
We can see some "no-future"- and "we want everything and that
immediatly"-concept that seems to be very popular for the young generation.

- Could it be, that "voluntary simplicity" is not really voluntary for most
of the simple living people? Simple living could be a reaction to the limits
and problems of the traditional way of working and careers. Personal limits
(stress, health problems), restructuring of companies (devaluation of human
work, unemployment, interruption of careers), automation and globalization
could be some reasons.

- On the other hand: Who is voluntarily living in the complex ( or
complicated) way of "work and spend"? Aren't there billions of $$ being
invested in marketing activities?

Once more, thanks and best wishes,

Robert Neunteufel

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Re: short article on pop. devel.

1999-07-13 Thread Thomas Lunde



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From: Steve Kurtz [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 
 POPULATION GROWTH IS PIVOTAL ISSUE IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
 by Georgie Anne Geyer

 WASHINGTON -- It's not working.
 For years, people who were against family planning could argue, and
 hope, and pretend, and weave tales about the glories of open grasslands
 in Kazakhstan as an answer to the world's population problem -- and some
 people listened.
 But now, in a sudden rush of new information about both population
 pressures and the Earth's sheer sustainability, we can clearly see how
 foolishly self-destructive that approach has been and continues to be.
 (snip)

Hi Steve:

I just read the article you suggested and what I found most interesting is:

The fact is that we know now what works in developing peoples and countries
to limit population growth: a reasonably non-corrupt representative
government, appropriate forms of economic freedom, a just legal system, a
wise diversification of economic resources and income, a high investment in
education, women's rights AND family planning.

Thomas:

It would seem to me, that if we know what works and the above 7 points do
not seem so drastic that we couldn't - through the UN decide that each
country must re-align their political systems, create the structures
mentioned above and solve the biggest problem facing mankind
-overpopulation.  Given the alternatives, wars, starvation, misuse of
resources, the above changes seem quite benign.

Quote:

A prime example: Arab Tunisia on the northern coast of Africa had 4 million
people in 1957 when it gained independence from France; with a strong family
planning program, it now has 9 million people and is one of the
fastest-developing countries in the world. Its neighbor Algeria also had
about 4 million in 1957; today it has 30 million people and is ensnared in
seemingly endless civil war and chaos. There are many such examples.

Thomas:

I know it has been postulated before, but I think it is time, perhaps
evolutionary to make a conscious decision to outlaw war.  If that requires a
world police force, so be it.  Law and order, good government, good use of
unsustainable resources and deliberate use of sustainable resources only
make common sense.  Forget the economies of the marketplace in which we use
a half a gallon of gas to go the the convience store to pick up a pack of
cigerattes, it's time to bring in a higher level criteria other than just we
can do it and keep the price down.

Respectfully,

Thomas Lunde
 



Re: short article on pop. devel.

1999-07-13 Thread Peter Marks

On Mon, 12 Jul 1999, Thomas Lunde  wrote:

 I know it has been postulated before, but I think it is time, perhaps
 evolutionary to make a conscious decision to outlaw war.  If that requires a
 world police force, so be it.

Be careful what you wish for!

I doubt you're suggesting that the US should serve such a function, so are you
thinking of a UN police force capable of policing even the US?   If so, are
you proposing this as an experiment to see if Lord Acton was right ("Absolute
power corrupts absolutely")?

If nothing else, such concentrated power would be an irresistible magnet for
precisely those people whose instincts that power was created to control.  The
danger of cooptation seems insurmountable.

P-)
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Re: short article on pop. devel.

1999-07-13 Thread Steve Kurtz

I agree in general with Thomas' evaluations. Enforcing peace with the
threat of force seems a particularly perverse requirement, though. We
humans are alone in this particular dilemma, as ethics appears tied to
our form of self-reflective consciousness.

Steve

 Thomas:
 
 It would seem to me, that if we know what works and the above 7 points do
 not seem so drastic that we couldn't - through the UN decide that each
 country must re-align their political systems, create the structures
 mentioned above and solve the biggest problem facing mankind
 -overpopulation.  Given the alternatives, wars, starvation, misuse of
 resources, the above changes seem quite benign.

 Thomas:
 
 I know it has been postulated before, but I think it is time, perhaps
 evolutionary to make a conscious decision to outlaw war.  If that requires a
 world police force, so be it.  Law and order, good government, good use of
 unsustainable resources and deliberate use of sustainable resources only
 make common sense.  Forget the economies of the marketplace in which we use
 a half a gallon of gas to go the the convience store to pick up a pack of
 cigerattes, it's time to bring in a higher level criteria other than just we
 can do it and keep the price down.



Re: FW: DOWN AMONG THE ECONOMISTS

1999-07-13 Thread Tom Walker

It's interesting that Jonathan Rowe's article of several years ago is again
making the rounds on the internet. It also showed up a couple of days ago on
the PEN-L (progressive economist) list. Rowe uses a pair of analogies with
psycho-analysis and medicine that could bear literal elaboration: "How such
agile and ambitious minds could drift so far out of touch with daily
reality, is a question which merits the attentions of our most astute
psychologists." and "Could it be that in industrial societies, human
distress is increasingly a form of iatrogenic disease - the doctors in this
case being economists?"

1. "How such agile and ambitious minds could drift so far out of touch with
daily reality, is a question which merits the attentions of our most astute
psychologists."

Would Freud be astute enough? As it turns out, the drift of the "agile and
ambitious minds" of economists exactly fits the textbook case of
*repression* as theorized by Freud in several articles, notably his articles
on "Repression"(1915), "The Unconscious"(1915) and "Beyond the Pleasure
Principle"(1920).

The following passage from Beyond the Pleasure Principle gives a compressed
account of Freud's theory about what the organism tries to accomplish by
means of repression:

"*Protection against* stimuli is an almost more important function for the
living organism than *reception of* stimuli . . . The excitations coming
from within are, however, in their intensity and in other, qualitative,
respects -- in their amplitude, perhaps -- more commensurate with the
system's method of working than the stimuli which stream in from the
external world. This state of things produces two definite results. First,
the feelings of pleasure and unpleasure predominate over all external
stimuli. And secondly, a particular way is adopted of dealing with any
internal excitations which produce too great an increase of unpleasure:
there is a tendendcy to treat them as though they were acting, not from the
inside, but from the outside, so that it may be possible to bring the shield
against stimuli into operation as a means of defence against them. This is
the origin of *projection*, which is destined to play such a large part in
the causation of pathological processes."

The mechanism of repression is almost too byzantine to summarize briefly,
but it involves, firstly, the substitution of an external phobia to take the
place of the anxiety-causing internal drive and subsequently an endless
repetition of substituting for the substitute. Although economists concern
themselves with the *elasticity* of substitution, I've yet to come across
much acknowledgement of the possibility that some such substitution may be,
as Freud suggested, PATHOGENIC.

The repression of key economics texts and the substitution of vulgar
apologetics is endemic to the *discipline* of economics. The process of
repression/substitution is so fundamental to economics that it would be more
clinically appropriate to refer to the discourse frankly as an "anxiety
hysteria" rather than "discipline". From this perspective, the GDP is not
simply an "inadequate concept", it is a hysterical projection -- a chimera.
The GDP simply has no theoretical standing in economics (this can be readily
documented from the source texts -- see for example remarks by Simon
Kuznets). It is, rather, symptomatic of a *phobic flight* from political
economy's own theory and evidence. 

Of course, this diagnosis of GDP as symptom doesn't say much for Rowe's
project of constructing an alternative indicator of "genuine progress". What
could it possibly mean to educate the patient in the production of
"healthier" symptoms? This sounds like what Freud referred to as a
transference neurosis -- "*repeat*[ing] the repressed material as a
contemporary experience instead of . . . *remembering* it as something
belonging to the past". The psycho-analytical therapy for the neurosis of
economics (of which the GDP is a symptom) would seem to involve uncovering
the repressed impulse and, as Freud suggests, "to force as much as possible
into the channel of memory and to allow as little as possible to emerge as
repetition." 

This is easier said than done. There is an additional irony here in that
mainstream economics purports to be about the satisfaction of psychological
impulses -- that is to say, the pleasure principle -- but it takes flight
from the implication of an economic "beyond the pleasure principle", a
compulsion to repeat. 

2. "Could it be that in industrial societies, human distress is increasingly
a form of iatrogenic disease - the doctors in this case being economists?"

Rowe's second analogy acquires an extra measure of menace from the
suggestion that not only are the "doctors" inducing disease "unknowingly"
but they do so *compulsively* as the symptom of their professional neurotic
disorder. Sure, it would be nice if we could "cure" the economists, but what
does this say about the rest of us -- submitting passively to a

interesting development in Europe

1999-07-13 Thread Steve Kurtz


FIRST EU THREAT TO WITHHOLD FUNDING OVER ENVIRONMENTAL COMPLIANCE

BRUSSELS, Belgium, July 8, 1999 - The European Commission has told five
countries that they may not be eligible for European Union (EU) regional
aid money unless they properly apply European nature laws.
Published in cooperation with ENDS Environment Daily
Website: http://www.ends.co.uk/envdaily }
For full text and graphics visit:
http://ens.lycos.com/ens/jul99/1999L-07-08-06.html



Re: interesting development in Europe

1999-07-13 Thread Nicholas C. Arguimbau

Was it for prohibiting use of hormones in cattle that the US just decided
to sanction EU?

On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, Steve Kurtz wrote:

 
 FIRST EU THREAT TO WITHHOLD FUNDING OVER ENVIRONMENTAL COMPLIANCE
 
 BRUSSELS, Belgium, July 8, 1999 - The European Commission has told five
 countries that they may not be eligible for European Union (EU) regional
 aid money unless they properly apply European nature laws.
 Published in cooperation with ENDS Environment Daily
 Website: http://www.ends.co.uk/envdaily }
 For full text and graphics visit:
 http://ens.lycos.com/ens/jul99/1999L-07-08-06.html
 
 
 



Jeremy Rifkin - 1-6-99

1999-07-13 Thread Ian Ritchie

Work, Social Capital, and the Rebirth of the Civil Society: 
A Blueprint for a New Third Sector Politics

Rapporteur: Mr Jeremy Rifkin, President of the Foundation on Economic
Trends, Washington, DC 

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The global economy is undergoing a fundamental transformation in the nature
of work brought on by the new technologies of the Information and Biotech
revolutions. These profound technological and economic changes are going to
force every country to rethink their long held assumptions about the nature
of politics if they are to adjust to the radical new world being readied for
the 21st century. In the new era, the traditional political spectrum of
marketplace vs government is likely to be replaced by the notion of a
three-legged political stool with the marketplace, government, and civil
sectors each acting as a check and balance against the other in a new kind
of tripartite politics. The new political paradigm is going to have far
reaching consequences, reshaping our very ideas of citizenship in the coming
century.

The revolutionary changes in technology and work are already laying the
groundwork for this historic shift in the exercise of political power.
Sophisticated computers, robotics, telecommunications, gene splicing, and
other Information Age technologies are fast replacing human beings in
virtually every industry. Nowhere is this trend more apparent than in the
manufacturing sector. The number of factory workers in the United States
declined from 33 percent of the workforce to under 17 percent in the past 30
years, even as American companies continued to increase production and
output, maintaining our country's position as the number one manufacturing
power in the world. 

For most of the 1980s it was fashionable to blame the loss of manufacturing
on foreign competition and cheap labor markets abroad. In some industries,
especially the garment trade and electronics, that has been the case.
Recently, however, economists have begun to revise their views in light of
new in-depth studies of the manufacturing sector. Economists Paul R. Krugman
of MIT and Robert L. Lawrence of Harvard University, suggest, on the basis
of extensive data, that "the concern, widely voiced during the 1950s and
1960s, that industrial workers would lose their jobs because of automation,
is closer to the truth than the current preoccupation with a presumed loss
of manufacturing jobs because of foreign competition."

Automated technologies have been reducing the need for human labor in every
manufacturing category. Within 10 years, less than 12 percent of the
American workforce will be on the factory floor, and by the year 2020, less
than 2 percent of the entire global workforce will likely still be engaged
in factory work. Over the next quarter century, we will see the virtual
elimination of the blue collar, mass assembly line worker from the
production process.

Until recently, economists and politicians assumed that displaced factory
workers would find new job opportunities in the service sector. Now,
however, the service sector is also beginning to automate, eliminating vast
numbers of white collar workers in the process. In banking, insurance, and
the wholesale and retail sectors, companies are deconstructing. They are
eliminating layer after layer of management and infrastructure, replacing
the traditional corporate pyramid and mass white collar workforces with
small, highly skilled professional work teams, using state of the art
software and telecommunication technologies. Even those companies that
continue to use large numbers of white collar workers have changed the
conditions of employment, transferring workers from permanent jobs to
"just-in-time" employment, including leased, temporary, and contingent work,
in an effort to reduce wage and benefit packages, cut labor costs, and
increase profit margins.

Acknowledging that both the manufacturing and service sector are quickly
reengineering their infrastructures and automating their production
processes, many mainstream economists and politicians have turned to the
emerging knowledge sector, pinning their hopes on new job opportunities
along the information superhighway and in cyberspace. While the "knowledge
sector" will create many new jobs, they will likely be too few to absorb the
millions of workers displaced by the new technologies. That's because the
knowledge sector is, by nature, an elite workforce and not a mass workforce.
Engineers, highly skilled technicians, computer programmers, scientists, and
professionals will never be needed in "mass" numbers to produce goods and
services in the Information Age. Indeed, the shift from mass to elite labor
forces is what distinguishes work in the Information Age from that of the
Industrial Age.

With near workerless factories and virtual companies already looming on the
horizon, every nation will